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I actually do agree that getting too into Discourse on either side of the anti-proship debate is unhealthy, bc getting too into online discourse is by nature unhealthy.

But like. One side is built around trusting yourself and your immediate audience to be responsible engaging with fiction.

And the other side is half the living embodiment of Morality OCD thoughts and half regurgitating conservative and radfem talking points, and then being surprised when their own puritanism inevitably comes back to bite them.

Like these are not equally bad camps djsjfjejtnekf As someone who has been in both, one was actively detrimental to my mental health, and one was adopted naturally as my mental state improved; 3 guesses, no prize, as to which happened when.

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Sometimes I'd like to politely ask 3-4 of the ppl who think there's a clear canonical plot to cats the musical to like. Tell me? And the rest of us? What it apparently is? Like. no communicating with each other, not even thru middlemen, just. One at a time, on their own, tell me and the rest of us what they think the plot or canon is. And how they account for various traditions and productions.

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Cheeky little reminder that "Tugger and Munk are brothers" is the same level of canon as "Jemibub is attracted to Tugger and has a crush on him"

Cheeky little reminder that it's fine to ignore or embrace one or both of these, but it's not fine to act like one of these should be accepted as default while the other one is worthy of condemnation for considering.

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Since the jemistrap ruffled someone's feathers, and since there's stuff I've been wanting to broach abt the non replica for a while. I have some tough news to break abt another potential thing from kilworth house (not tough as in I think it's bad, tough as in if yall had any moral consistency you'd stop watching this show rather than go after people for shipping what the show gives us to ship)

Alonzo is likely in secondary school. I made a whole post breaking this down.

Demeter is decidedly not a schoolgirl

They likely went with Demelonzo, not Demestrap. In the clip we have of the Ball, not only are Jemima and Munkustrap dancing together, but so are Demeter and Alonzo. This photo also implies Alonzo was the one demeter rushed to following the Macavity fight

Sailor dresses aren't the exclusive domain of young children. Nautical inspired fashion was popular in the 30s (as was a high waistline), and explicitly sailor-themed dresses were huge in the 40s (there was a fucking war)

(That last one was the main dress I was referencing while drawing my piece)

Pigtail braids, likewise, are definitely not exclusive to young children, especially if someone has a lot of hair but isn't actively styling it up atm.

But here's the thing:

It actually doesn't matter whether or not she's "intended" to be a certain age. I think she might have been, but I haven't seen the full show.

Even if she's intended to be a little kid, I don't see her that way so tough shit lmao. I think it's p clear I didn't draw a child.

I'm not forcing anyone to read Jemima as older.

I'm not forcing anyone to ship her with munk

It's very out of left field and out of hand to send me anons 3 days out with the presumed intention of guilting me into thinking that shipping pretend cats is the same as allowing real children to be groomed and abused.

It's especially underhanded to finger wag at a trans person abt grooming in the current climate, especially when you and i both know these are fake characters, and you cant even cling to the idea of child actors bc every actor involved here is an adult.

Since you've got me talking abt kilworth house jemistrap, tho:

Balaclava were British military gear in ww2. Munk is in the military. Jemima is wearing a balaclava.

He's a pilot, and she's got a navy dress; air and sea

Their reason for being at the station apart from the air raid could be that he's shipping back out and she's seeing him off.

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The dumbest thing I've ever done for this fandom was pretend I think any of the characters have set age ranges in my head and it took finding a new porn artist on twitter who articulated my own tendencies with wrt character ages to feel comfortable saying that fjdjgbjegnejfbv. Everyone in the show is on a sliding scale of ages to me and I usually don't bellyache over how old they are in one post vs another bc they're not real people they're fictional sexy anthro cats and they're as old or as young as I want them to be for any given context

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Day no. ???? Of waiting for antis to acknowledge their arguments about women fetishizing gay men come directly from transmisandry