alright please give me the jackie and steckie discourse
OHHH BOY OKAY also tagging @iron-parkr for more steckie discourse
would definitely say that she’s useless in the mcu and think that putting her in the movies is just a waste of time and she doesn’t deserve to be there
consider her a weak character since she only had a few appearances in the first two iron man films so no one really got to see what she was like
pretty negative and underwhelming reactions when it’s announced that she’s going to be at the forefront in the avengers
even more criticism towards jackie when it’s hinted at in the film that her and steve will probably have some kind of romance down the line because steggy and stucky were really gaining steam at this point
the anti-jackie peeps would compare her a lot to addie and saying that she would never be anything like her, that addie was too amazing and too good and why can’t jackie be more like her and blah blah
people would say that her ptsd is unconvincing and that she’s too over dramatic (especially when it comes to her panic attack in the avengers)
claims that she is disrespectful towards peggy for falling in love with steve... we all know this old argument lol
A LOT OF BACKLASH FROM BUCKY STANS ESPECIALLY AFTER CW, people saying that she’s a real bitch and not empathetic towards the fact that bucky was tortured and brainwashed and that she should be more considerate of what he went through. even though he fucking traumatized her after almost killing her (yes I know he was brainwashed but it doesn’t change what happened to her)
people calling her a “horrible mother” because of how she dealt with her pregnancy in the early stages. it’s not pretty at all and it makes her appear as negligent to some people
seen as a massive bitch and horrible person after what she says to both steve and tony at the end of cw
a lot of backlash for her character and marvel when she considers getting an abortion
steckie discourse: (also answered here)
would see jackie as inconsiderate when she “runs away” post-age of ultron and she doesn’t tell anyone where she’s going, leaves her phone behind. people would say she was being horrible to steve for not telling him
the discourse starts to get really heated once it reaches civil war
jackie’s pregnancy, while most were surprised and like excited, others are like wtf why are they making her pregnant??? this is such a useless storyline and feel that it was tying steve down further with her
half of the fandom thinks that steve was absolutely right for choosing bucky for jackie because steve is better off with him and away from jackie. while the other half are like NO he was an asshole for choosing bucky over his pregnant girlfriend
OOOHHH MY GOSH. steve choosing bucky over a pregnant jackie is such a heated topic in the fandom. people would call it out of character and something that steve wouldn’t do, while others really like it because it makes sense because bucky means more to him. I imagine that chris can’t even decide whether it’s ooc or not for steve ajsdkl
steve stans would hate her for hurting him at the end of civil war and refusing to go on the run with him. tony stans would rip her apart for the things she said to tony and for how she treated him. yet both stans completely disregard how steve and tony were oblivious to what she needed and how much stress she was under and would say that she brought it all on herself
pre-iw to iw, the discourse would kind of wane a bit because that’s when jackie and steve kind of hit a new stride as a couple and their journey to healing actually gets some good reactions
but it picks back up during endgame when during the five year time jump, steve kind of starts to “neglect” his family while trying to search for a way to bring everyone back. and people are annoyed that they’re doing this with steve’s character again and people would complain that jackie whined too much and “needed to get off of steve’s back” when she’s trying to make sustain a fucking normal life for her, steve, and their kids.
also the steggy shippers would think that steve should’ve gone back and stayed with peggy
send me an oc or a ship and i’ll tell you what the fandom wank/discourse would be like if they were canon.