#understanding patterns

[whathefuckshappening]

Let’s talk about Mohammed ‘Mo’ Al Turki….shall we? 👀

If I go missing, let this be my paper trail back to these people 😂😂😂

Where to begin???

There’s been a lot of publicity and buzz about Mo, especially since his Red Sea Film Festival caught the attention of Seb fans because Alejandra Onieva (Sebs ‘gf’) was in attendance…

But who is this man and why does it matter, in regards to the epic shitshow that is Seb & Ale’s pairing?

Brief background….

Classes himself as a film producer, entrepreneur and of course…philanthropist 🙄. Born in Saudi Arabia on 3rd July 1986, Mohammed Al Turki has been labelled as the man who’s helping bridge the entertainment gap between "East and West" through his current and exciting endeavors in Hollywood. He’s also rich AF…a Billionaire and his family owns most of the property and hotel industry in Al Khobar (you should see the size of his home). He also hosts the Red Sea Film Festival…which brings us back to the recent press around him, because he’s just hosted the event again. But…it’s not without significant controversy and criticism…

unsurprisingly….😑

Article blurb is from:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/11/critics-condemn-saudi-film-festival-as-a-whitewash

So naturally this seemed like the perfect event for everyone’s fave celeb girlfriend, Alejandra, to walk into the picture and attend 🤡🤡

Below: Alejandra Onieva pictures with Mo at the Red Sea Festival, Dec 2021

Safe to say she left an impression…

Ale seem pretty Esmeralda is quite friendly with him at the moment:

Below: IG story posted by Mo @moalturki includes Ale and Esmeralda (Talent Manager)

We believe the mutual association publicly began at the Venice Film Festival, where she was seen with him and then started following him.

So why does this matter? He’s rich AF, a film producer, a good connection. Just what a young starlet could ever want as a new industry pal, right? Well, she’s not the first, and that didn’t end well for some…

Mohammed and his Hollywood ‘besties’: Rise and fall

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.popsugar.com/celebrity/photo-gallery/35462963/image/35463255/Michelle-Rodriguez-Producer-Mohammed-Al-Turki-Brant-Brothers/amp

Michelle Rodriguez, Producer Mohammed Al Turki, and the Brant Brothers

Zac was also joined at Riccardo's birthday party by Michelle and her close friend, Saudi producer Mohammed Al Turki. They all hung out with

Models, Alessandra Ambrosio Sara Sampaio, Stella Maxwell, Barbara Pulvin etc (seen in above pictures) have been in his inner circle. Again. Why does it matter? I’m getting to it, sorry.

“What did it cost? Everything”

It seems that ‘getting into bed’ (pun fully intended) with Mo and his associates can be extremely beneficial, but also very problematic, if you get on his bad side:

Below: History of blinds on CDAN linked to Mohammed Al Turki

How coincidental that blinds came out about ppl we know he’s connected to (above pictures and articles linking him to all the above actors/models). Yikes, right??? Interesting how Esmeralda and Jon invite Ale to these events and introduces her to these people. Is this her fast track to fame? What does he have on her…or even worse, how/could this be linked or impact Seb? Troubling thoughts.

We already had this blind about some nefarious dealings going on with model Alessandra Ambrosio:

Above: blind item and screenshot of an IG story featuring tag of Ale, Mo and her ‘model friends’ 😉

Anyway, I’ll leave it up to you guys to speculate and wonder about, I’m just sharing the paper trail and following some breadcrumbs.

Enjoy!

(Thanks to behind the scenes mutuals and followers for helping piece these things together. I am very grateful)

[whathefuckshappening]

What baffles me is that there are people who actually believe Jon introduced them just because he said so lol.

You're telling me that he's actually close enough to Sebastian to introduce Ale to him? And seeing how Sebastian posts birthday stories for pretty much all of his friends with an online presence (and even saying 'love you', except for his beloved "girlfriend") he has blatantly ignored Jon's, the one who 'introduced' his girlfriend for almost two years. Not even a like or comment on Alejandra's post for him either. You'd think he'd be thankful for this and give him some recognition (if it were a real relationship).

All Jon does (and Ale for that matter) is look desperate trying to get his attention and remind people they know him.

Okay, last ask but there’s a ton like this in the inbox so let me say my peace with some rhetoricals….

He’s known Jon for how many years? How often have you actually seen them interact like they were close friends? All I ever saw was a one-sided attention seeker who liked to let the world know he knew a Marvel star. They did one Hugo Boss campaign…yet he’s somehow introduced them to each other (at the height of the global pandemic, don’t forget lol, how?) and now he’s attached at the hip to both of them - despite not spending much of this past year with either of them because of restrictions (even though they exploit the rules like it’s some kind of sick game).

Never forget the minute Seb signed with CAA, she mysteriously turned her tags off. When did they meet? It was unlikely March/April like they’ve eluded to, because Seb was in NY and then off filming FATWS for the first time in Prague. We have solid receipts she was in Costa Rica for most of those months.

Then, just as restrictions somewhat lift, both are spotted on a romance tour in Ibiza, professional photos included lol. All within the same 6 months of Seb being signed to a new agency. Have you ever seen Seb behave like this before? Trying to shameless grab salacious paparazzi column inches (something CAA is famous for?). Oh and the fact Ale just so happens to now be signed to the same management as Jon…and now all we see is the two of them prancing about the globe?

Seriously? That doesn’t strike you as convenient??? Or odd???? She can’t seem to travel anywhere without Jon or Esmeralda (her talent manager) when she visits her own ‘boyfriend?’

GTFO lol. That’s honestly all I have to say on these clowns.

The end. Period.

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Above: New fan ‘sighting’ of Seb with Ale via Deuxmoi..

So, just for reference, our predictions seem on track;

-She heads to Tulum ✅

- Some speculation she’s ‘on the move’ ✅

- She post-bombs on her SM giving ‘clues’ she’s no longer in Tulum ✅

- Convenient, numerous fan anons seem to ‘know’ she’s in the same place as Seb via blogs ✅

- Ale posts and ‘confirms’ via Esmeralda Brajovic (Talent Manager) she is where Seb is. Selfie with Esmeralda posted to SM ✅

- Obscure fan sightings of Seb with ‘a blonde’ just hanging out and eating - usually to Reddit threads, Twitter or Deuxmoi ✅

- Some kind of video/photo which confirms both Seb and Ale are together - might be through tiktok or an IG story (Pending) 😂

This is exactly like LA….

**Pretends to be shocked**

[whathefuckshappening]

Thank you so much for all that info on Mo. This shit show just never stops does it?

Playing a little devil's advocate, but esp considering all this, does it give you any pause to think their relationship might actually be fully real then? Since she really hasn't benefitted in any way from her relationship with Sebastian? Meanwhile now she's getting more attention from her connections through Jon, her hanging out with Rob (who is less popular that SS), and then def this Mo guy?

I mean I definitely don't think the girl has a genuine bone in her body and she comes across as a textbook narcissist, but just wanted to get your feel. It just feels strange to say it's PR or even used for PR when there's been no traction there, ya know?

Thanks, glad you found it informative! Personally, it made me feel sick to my stomach. This industry makes me wanna take a long hot shower to wash off the ick…

This is, and always will be, a loaded and challenging Q to answer (and truly, I’m not trying to dodge answering it, it’s just complicated and I really want ppl to think wider about the nature of pr and fauxmances).

Being attached to Seb is not a coincidence or accident (I’ve talked endlessly about why I think this the case in other posts, so if anyone wants more on that, check my pr related tags). Remember, PR doesn’t necessarily mean fake - I wholeheartedly wish more people who criticise those of us who to dissect the role publicity plays in the entertainment industry - would understand this. Pr is almost always in motion, always. It’s to protect the image of the talent. It’s important.

My best guess has, and always will be that she was convenient and available to be with him. Whether that was a private hook up/arrangement etc, is debatable, but I guarantee, they both decided to make this public…for publicity. They just did. Whether that was under the order or advisement of CAA, his team, another outside force etc, it was a conscious decision. They didn’t just get ‘caught’ frolicking on holidays around the world as a ‘private couple’. So much of what we’ve seen from them is curated publicity. It’s just is. You don’t take professional photos and videos taken by a third party the first time you’re seen publicly with your beau unless that’s calculated. They use this pairing FOR PUBLICITY. I personally don’t hold it against anyone who thinks they hook up or caught real, genuine feelings in the process; they’ve been parading around for over 18 months, let’s not be naive, but it also isn’t solid proof this is an organic, loving union. Hence it’s complicated to answer the Q.

I think she’s a raging narcissist (maybe even a sociopath - she doesn’t seem to have any flicker of remorse about wrongdoing, no regard for others’ welfare, and seems to enjoy exploiting and manipulating others. All hallmarks of this label, but let’s not digress…it’s irrelevant, really).

Seb is, and was, her gateway. That was actually invaluable. She would never have achieved the same exposure without him as her leverage, even with Esmeralda in her circle. Look at the column inches she’s generated? You think Saudi billionaire film producers would give a shit about her without Sebs name being attached to her? Come on, now….

She definitely benefits. Every little helps. I’d say there’s an amalgamation of truths here. All I do know is non of them end well for Seb. Shame, really.

[whathefuckshappening]

This is a fair point. Lol, remember those roses she posted? Embarrassing lol. *Flashbacks to bullshit* //

Genuinely asking, all of you being so sure those roses were baiting, how do you know? I agree with the lockscreen and other baits, but how is showing roses on Valentine’s day baiting? How do you know they’re not from him? Non of us know anything for sure, so why would you confirm something when you have 0 facts?

Where to start lol….

I do appreciate this ask but let me break down my counterpoints (I promise I’m not deliberately trying to sound condescending, so here goes)…

“How do you know they aren’t from him?”: That’s never been the point. It’s the insinuating that’s the problem. No card with his visible name, no tag, no confirmation. Nothing. That is why we roll our eyes at her posts and SM shenanigans. It’s always done with the intention to stir. She would rather do that than outrightly confirm anything, which you’d think would be super easy - if she had the receipts for it. That’s why her birthday video exists…to slam dunk all of her breadcrumbs. She’s that much of an insecure child.

Also, let me once again reiterate the concept of bait. It doesn’t need to be fake to be bait. Bait is merely for a hook, if you will. It can be truth or fiction. Bait doesn’t mean stunt, even though both terms are used interchangeably (and therefore incorrectly) when discussing celeb pr.

It’s not about the outright confirm, it’s the attention it garners. Just like that asshat Justin in the Chris Evans debacle. Clout.

[whathefuckshappening]

Can I say something really obvious nobody has pointed out?

What kind of person brings their family and friends everywhere with them when dating? Tells me a lot. Just a thought. That’s not a normal behavior in a real partnership. I still think that factor gives her away

Just sifting through my sea of asks and this one stood out as really helpful.

It’s the last one, I promise 😂

[whathefuckshappening]

okay so i’m in no way shape or form defending them, just a really confused person here lmao

if they wanna sell this so bad and make people believe this “relationship” is real, why aren’t they at least trying to make it believable? like if she’s so desperate you’d think she’d be more careful with what she does and/or post?? she’s so careless with it yet she’s mad no one believes this and pays articles and pap walks like wth??????? same with their teams, everything is so confusing:/

You, anon have reached into my brain and pulled my own thoughts out…

It’s a shitshow. I simply can’t liken their ‘strategy’ to anything else I’ve seen - publicity stunt or otherwise. It’s why ppl feel invested. It’s a strange mix of many things.

At this stage, I fully believe it’s pointless debating what’s ‘real’ or not - it’s more important to observe the patterns just use this information to appease any anxiety this ‘relationship’ might bring you - fans are starting to care less (thank god….my inbox is particularly pleased about this), but yes, fans are still uneasy about what’s going on with them. Mainly because he doesn’t seem himself (mentally/physically), and she appears to be a total jerk. Name one thing that’s truly redeeming about her? I’ll wait…

I think their team(s) had one strategy in mind to roll her out when this started (this is common, even if she’s his real gf, because he’s legit famous/public commodity), and then they had to pivot because of covid and the overwhelming fan backlash towards her (which I don’t think they fully anticipated - even if they did know she was a racist asshat etc).

At present, I think they’ve migrated back towards what you might say is a more typical roll-out (sightings, photo ops, articles about their ‘love’, joint social media engagement, aligned pr promotion for projects etc). BUT, I still feel their teams poorly execute many elements with their public image. It’s improved, but it’s still shitty. Just look at some of the Deuxmoi fiascos and photo ops in Spain lol.

We’re not really buying what they’re selling. I think it’s a bit late in the game, at least in regard to those who’ve been following this. I can’t speak for newer fans of him, etc, although I think you’d be hard-pressed to find many who like her. Lukewarm fans just say things like “well, if she makes him happy then…etc, etc”. You’d think a good PR spin would incite more positive feelings than that in your target audience 😂

Such a messy situation.

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Orrrrr they know tea about him and Lily is about to be spilled and the “we broke up and got back together” narrative is better than “A/B lister cheats on his GF” - it’s not like Ale would break up with him over cheating she is too interested in the clout … they may even be an open couple who knows / cares. It would also explain why he seemed off in his past couple of pictures / interviews.

Thoughts ?

Meh - I’m not too sure either way on this, tbh.

I just feel they’re trying to refocus attention back to his work. This helps everyone involved. I don’t think it’s as deep or as preemptive as most think it is - but if so, the only premeditated narrative is her staying quiet or possibly driving a lily and Seb romance.

Other than that, I think they are just working hard to big up and promote his projects.