Helloooooo can I get 7, 11, and 13 for lovi and varza :3c
@mystery-salad
man yea you weren't lying, tumblr was being /weird/ abt u sending these asks;; there's like 3 of em now... all very slightly different... rude of tumblr 2 do that to u. will hope it's gonna be normal about the answers at least :P
anyways!! speaking of answers. uh. They are Long. And also talking about Varza's experience in His Neck Of The Woods' Flame Legion involves talking about like, Lasca and generally How They Treat ''''''females'''''''', which. Not going to go into incredibly explicit detail in these answers, but. putting the whole thing under readmore w a Significant TW for Abuse, for especially varza's answers, for safety;;
7. What's their approach to romance?
Lovi
Hoo boy Lovi is. Uh. Between never really connecting with anyone outside Enkkioh (who's like. deeply aroace) when she grew up in Rata Sum more than as, like, moderately positive aquaintences, barely trying to get along with anyone during her short stint in Iron, and then effectively becoming a Vengance Hermit holed up in Flame legion lands, Lovi is. Uh. Not very socialized, to put it lightly? All that to say she's never really had to think about romance in terms of what she thinks about it...
She's made fun of other progeny for it, and during her time hiding around flame, she'd start (in lower stakes attack runs) just. shamelessly, tactlessly flirting at flame charr. with the express intent of making fun of them about it before stabbing them/hitting them with hardlight hammers/firing a Big Laser at them. Which. the shameless flirting For The Bit is not a habit she lost when she finally started hanging around people she didn't want to kill???? Which Enkkioh can take in stride bc she's kinda used to Lovi being like that and doesn't really care, but like. Eventually those Conses are gonna Quence, and someone she actually somewhat values the opinion of even slightly is gonna fire back, and she will take it with all the grace and poise of a jenga tower hit with a pillow. Just. Full cease of function, hour-long recalibration, What Do You Mean That's A Thing That Can Happen (Enkkioh has been warning her of this exact scenario Literally since they reunited. she just. fully did not believe it. In part bc she quickly came to the Base Assumption in rata sum that no one Actually liked her except Probably enkkioh and her parents and kinda never managed to let that go).
I have yet to like. make a solid decision on How and When that happens beyond 'Lovi is bisexual and probably poly but will not be addressing the 'attraction to men' bit for as long as possible due to Flame Legion reasons',, probably eventually she'd like settle on one or two solid, steady relationships w the occasional fling, but. It's gonna take a Lot of figuring things out and settling into the concept of that being a Possibility At All before then;;
...as far as cubs go. I think she's also avoiding thinking about Having them (also for flame legion reasons) but like. I think if someone asked her to take care of someone else's cubs she'd be pretty ok at it? She'd like 'em well enough, and even if she isn't great at it for her own safety, she knows to be strict about lab safety for others, especially kids. She'd probably much prefer to be a 'fun aunt' than an actusl parent, though, even after getting through the initial panic of 'why would you leave? a child?? with me????????'
Varza
Ok so. The fun thing with Varza. Is that asking him about romance or cubs or anything related will Set Off All Of His Anxiety Immediately. The part of Flame he's in up until some point Very recently is like, fully Mysoginistic To The Point That It's Just Slavery (like. both Lovi and Lasca were declawed for acting up, lovi as a cub, and at the point Varza met her and helped her get out, Lasca had been drugged, for days, by then, and probably off and on for most of her adult life up to that point. like. the kinda flame salina scorchrazor came from vibes,,,)
He Also grew up being Actively Reminded that 'hey, this is probably what happened to that sister you care about, lol', in order to make him act out about it, bc it was the easiest way to get him to fight back
So. Uh. Varza has absolutely No concept of a healthy relationship whatsoever, and Fully avoids thinking about ever having one At All. any thoughts of yearning in his head are shut down Violently and Immediately, and being flirted with has him just. Deeply, deeply uncomfortable...
...He might, though, with time and patience and probably a significant amount of therapy, be happy in just. A lowkey, singular, committed relationship, though he'd probably still struggle Immensely trying to advocate for any of his own wants or needs;;
....also no cubs, cubs scare him, who let the tiny thing in here what does he do what if it gets hurt oh oh oh no oh no its going to explode and die somehow he just KNOWS it-
(i think he'd enjoy taking care of, like, an aquarium, though... varza n him favorite fishes,,,)
11. Do they respect the chain of command, or are they a bit of a loose cannon?
Lovi
Lovi thinks the chain of command is Stupid and thinks everyone who follows it for no reason is Also stupid. She does not Care what your fancy title is, you are Just Some Rando, and if you can't prove Why she should respect you, she won't. Like- being higher in command doesn't actively make her dislike you, but it doesn't really give you any points, either. If you're cool, you're cool, if you suck, you suck. End of story.
...Funnily enough, though, she never actually got into any Significant Trouble with any of her superiors, because both in rata sum and iron legion, she just. Packed up and left before anything actually boiled over... she left rata sum only a few months before enkkioh Shot At A Council Member With A Rifle and got Banned From Rata Sum over commentts made about Lovi, and probably left iron only shortly before her 'band would've attempted to report her for using magitech. (she told them she was 'real good at tech' when they agreed to let her join in the first place. She did not think she had to specify what kind of tech, what other tech is there????? honestly though between the lack of respect, lack of decorum, and her voice naturally being in that humaney midrange none of them could hear without straining, they just Didn't Get Along anyways. the magitech was really more just an excuse to get rid of her without losing face over the whole thing)
Varza
...Ok so, here, on the other hand, being in a position of power will actively make Varza dislike you more. It's not... quite as bad as his experience with relationships- his main point of contact outside of Flame, for a while, was getting the Vigil's help in getting flame escapees to safety, and like. helping them recover. And they all seem... fine enough, at handling that power responsibly, especially relative to the charr he grew up around. The bar is clearable, it just gets steadily higher the more power you claim to have. (...I uh. Don't think he'd get along with Isgarren. Varza may or may not be constantly two inches away from Attacking him whenever he remembers he exists)
Varza is very... very careful not to get in trouble with his superiors in flame, though. As far as they can know, Varza is a messenger, and only that. Doesn't know how to fight, too anxious to be a threat; just a messenger and an only mostly passable healer, who wouldn't dare act against them. If Varza needs to act against them in any obvious way, he will ensure there are no witnesses left to prove he was ever there in the first place.
13. What was their first experience with other races?
Lovi
Lovi's first experience with other races was accidentally hijacking a waypoint teleportation (by crashing into someone as they tried to teleport), which she kinda did not comprehend at the time, or really remember much later... she does somewhat more remember, afterwards, clambering into an asuran shipping cart to hide from someone yelling about 'transport fees', listening in on the conversations of the transport krewe off and on between bouts of unconsciousness, and being kind of amazed these weird things were talking like people... then slowly coming to the alternate conclusion that, instead, maybe these were the real people, and she was actually surprisingly intelligent for mostly understanding what they were talking about. (She uh. Pretty quickly started repressing Most of her childhood before that point. The only thing that occasionally reminded her any of that was real was how much her paws hurt)
That alternate conclusion kinda... continued to linger. Enkkioh always treated her as a full equal, but she was one of very, very few who did. so Lovi kinda. never really felt like quite as much of a full person as the asura around her, which. Beyond the Everything Else kinda colored her later interactions with other charr, too
Varza
Varza had known about other races before ever actually meeting any of them; one of the first skills he learned was how to open a sealed letter, read it, copy it, and then re-seal it without any evidence it'd been tampered with- so he knew plenty about any of the other race's opposition to his area of flame, if gained through a deeply biased lense. (He knew where to drop off letter copies so they'd be picked up by whoever he thought could do the most damage with the information, but never actually interacted with anyone to do so...) Even at the time, he knew to be... suspicious at best of his superiors' opinions on anything, but even still, there's probably a number of biases and factually incorrect information he still hasn't unlearned, just bc those letters were all he had to interpret from for a while.
The first time he actually met other races, though... is actually the same time Lasca did. He had just discovered his magic's more Willbender esque abilities in the process of massacring an entire (mostly unconscious, granted) camp of 'fellow' flame legion, realized in short order he could Not leave this other charr here to face the consequences of His actions (especially after he'd Just finally snapped over the condition she was being kept in); so he's gotta sneak her out, but? To where?? He doesn't have the resources to help her recover himself, and taking her back to flame in any capacity is just. Entirely and completely unacceptable, so... he hedges his bets. Takes her to the closest not-flame outpost he knows about (which happens to be one of the Vigil's), and... admittedly just stands w/ her somewhere conspicuous until they notice and take Lasca along. and then he just kinda. Stands there on the periphery, refusing help, not talking to anyone, just. Watching in silence. Listening. Glaring at anyone who gets too close, snarling whenever Lasca flinches.
...And like, once he's sure she'll be okay, he fully leaves without saying anything, but. He was listening, and comparitively, these people seem... genuinely kind? Somehow?? He knows they're tough enough to cause flame issues with a frequency, but being able to do that without sacrificing the kindness is... genuinely impressive in a way it takes him a while to actually Believe.
...But. If the Vigil can be like that. If the world outside can be better. Then... doesn't he have a responsibility, at this point, to try to help as many charr like Lasca out of flame, to see it, as he possibly can? ...It'd been so long since he felt like he could do anythimg substantial about any of this...
...But he has a clear goal and purpose, now. A way to fight. A path to fight towards.
...If things outside were really that much better- the mutual respect, cooperation, tenderness, despite how much more vastly different each member of the vigil was to each other than Lasca was to any other charr...
...He was going to get as many of them out as he could.
And then he was going to burn this whole cesspit of Flame into the dirt.














