INTERVIEW: GUN OUTFIT TALK TO SOUND STALKER
Sound Stalker talks to, Carrie Keith and Dylan Sharp of, Gun Outfit about beginnings, buck records and their European tour.
(Photograph: Gun Outfit)
How did Gun Outfit form?
"Carrie Keith: I asked Dylan to play guitar with me.
Dylan Sharp: I agreed even though I sucked."
How would you describe your music?
"CK: Rock n Roll.
DS: With a sense of regret."
Did you have a set idea for your sound at the beginning?
"CK: I wanted the Feelies guitar tone pretty early on but I didn't have the gear so I spent a lot of time rebuilding ampegs with my friend.
DS: Not really. It was more about the people and the vibe than the sound at first. When we started we didn't know how to tune and after an early show our friend Birch came up to us and said 'that's so cool you guys tune half step off from each other'... that was not the intent. We wanted it to be soulful music with solos, and we wanted it to be heavy by way of the senses but not try-hard heavy... you weren't supposed to know which was the heavy part. We wanted analog old sounds and were not into pop disco/ electronic music. We wanted to incorporate folk elements from the beginning, but that didn't start coming through to people until recently."
How did Olympia's music community influence your sound and approach to making music?
"DS: Everyone played in a band, so it is a natural thing to do there. In addition there were a lot of people who made many types of art. When we started it wasn't like, 'ok i'm a band guy now', it was just an outgrowth of the other artistic types of activities we were doing... writing, painting, movies etc. There's a lot of acceptance for that in Olympia. If you do that in LA people don't take any of the things you are doing seriously, or else they consider whatever's getting the most attention from a blog or whatever your 'main project'. Olympia is unique and there is a respect that is personal and has to do with the people involved. It has nothing to do with branding, genres, the stupid things you have to do to make yourself stand out in big cities.
CK: My friends there exposed me to a world of music and recording. I would not have had the confidence to pursue something so fragile and insecure otherwise."
How has your approach changed over the years?
"CK: We have more members, more instruments more space so to speak.
DS: I'm more careful now to make sure that I'm in tune and the amps are working and whatever. I have less of a 'fuck it, nothing matters' attitude. Also I have an interest in different instruments besides guitar and in layering and a more lush sound."
What influences your lyrical content?
"CK: The melody. If I have a bad attitude about something I want a lot of ttss shhaaa so I can spit.
DS: Lyrics are very hard. I want them to be open to several interpretations. I am very critical of my lyrics and want them to read as well without music as with music, but that is only seldom achieved. I want to communicate ideas and have little patience for whimsy or bullshit in lyrics. I want to be able to repeat them without feeling embarrassed, which means I want them to be slightly different from other songs and I don't want to repeat choruses too much. My lyrics are sensations and feelings broken down and manipulated by the mind in a desperate attempt to connect with other people. I don't want to be too dramatic either, so I try to make them kind of funny occasionally."
Was there a particular band or gig from your youth that inspired you?
"CK: Alan Jackson and Sex Vid.
DS: Yes. Riding the bus to shows in Seattle when I was a lad in a rural farm town changed my life. Nirvana/Butthole Surfers in 94 was the first rock concert I went to in 7th grade. Later, in high school, it was Jawbreaker, Unwound, Karp, Thrones and other bands that played the NW a lot had a big impact on my decision to move to Olympia. I was very much into the Minutemen, Meat Puppets, Born Against and Infest and from there got into everything on Vermiform (esp. liked the hippy earnest stuff like MITB and Moss Icon). When I was 23 I moved to Japan, where I went to a lot of great hardcore shows (I saw Gauze play four times, which totally blew my mind). Later on it was more weirdo solo projects like Daniel Higgs, Russian Tsarlag, American Vacuum, Ornament. Even though I don't get the same type of enjoyment out of seeing bands that I once did, every now and then I still get that magical feeling."
What's the most memorable gig you've played?
"DS: Don't know the most memorable. I use them to orient my memory. Like six months will be blurry but I will remember the shows we played so at least I'll have something from that time. The show we played at the middle school on the Indian reservation for Career day I suppose is the most unique.
CK: That is the best show we'll ever play."
Is there a record shop that's special to you?
"CK: I love going to estate sales and digging through junk that hasn't been curated and everything is a dollar.
DS: I never got into buying records online, so every record elicits a memory of the place I got it. So I prefer to get records at weird spots so I can remember going there. The most special record shop to me is Phantom City in Olympia (now closed) because it was by hanging out there that I became friends with Zack Carlson and Judd Taylor when I first moved to Olympia, and through them I ended up meeting a lot of people who are still very close friends to this day. It was my entry point to the Olympia scene."
Do you have a favourite record of all time?
"DS: No, I will play records heavily for awhile and then get burned out on them. There's definitely an 'all time echelon' of bands and records I consider great, but I can't place one above the other. Sometimes I hear other people talk about great records and get a little depressed. I want to keep them secret and to myself often. When a record I love is playing in a store or something, it's distressing.
CK: Tonight's the Night but I can't listen to it right now."
What was the last record you bought?
"CK: Willie Thrasher- Spirit Child and a Sade single for my girl.
DS: A Staple Singers record from the fifties and a Bola Sete record I got at the Salvation Army in San Diego for a buck each."
What have you been listening to today?
"CK: I just listened to the recording Adam made of Gun Outfit live in Barnesville, Ohio, very rare he he.
DS: Richard Thompson live in 1991 cassette."
What's next for Gun Outfit?
"CK: Europe in February.
DS: Keep making records. I'm ready to do another one already. We have a 12" EP coming out in February."
What are you looking forward to most about your upcoming European tour?
"DS: The weird contexts we will find ourselves in. Not being in the psychotic US.
CK: The old graves, our french friends and I'm hoping I can sneak away to the cinema. Henery Barnes will be joining the band for the tour so the shows are going to be lit, I promise."
Gun Outfit's post-punk sound has wondered down a dusty trail.
Gun Outfit released their debut 7", 'On the Beach', in 2008. Born from Olympia's liberal punk infestation - you can hear its influence; fast, loose and unique. Over the years they've consistently shared their sounds and evolved naturally - freely.
Recent releases, such as the triumph 'Dream All Over', have unleashed a roaming, rolling hypnotic delight. Dylan and Carrie's melancholic tones cut through in an effortless manor - laced with a whimsical reassurance.
Gun Outfit grace our shores this Friday to begin their European exploits. Catch them live on the road, grab some merch and, if you're lucky, one of their tour cassette tapes. 14 unreleased tracks, hand numbered, edition of 100. You'd be a fool to miss them...
NW heads - catch Gun Outfit at Gulliver's this Saturday.














