Think Like Spencer PLL Investigation

Bare bones Pretty Little Liars investigation blog. I will be posting all the pretty little clues and hints I pick up on as well as any theories I come up with. No bells or Mona whistles here. Just good old fashioned investigating, Spencer Hastings style!

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The biggest answer we got last night: Bones is A.D. =D

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Ali hearing quacking noises and asking if she’s supposed to look for a pond RIGHT IN FRONT OF A DUCK SIGN is like an episode of Dora the Explorer asking where tf is Swiper who’s always behind her

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Going back to the Spencer’s twin theory… Here’s another memory Spencer has about her sister (and Melissa doesn’t remember anything about it). In this memory Spencer’s sister sounds aggressive… 

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Maybe it’s a hint that Melissa has a twin. Melissa seems wierd when Spencer talks a about it.

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Or maybe this Kendra girl was Bethany and that’s why she got aggressive? But idk what the connection would be but yeah it’s suspicious that she got so aggressive

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I just read a theory that Mary might actually be Bethany's mom and I think that's really interesting. That would explain how she looked enough like Charlotte to escape in her clothes, how she looked enough like Ali for Charlotte to hit her, and why Jason thought he saw Melissa talking to Charlotte but Charlotte said it never happened. Also Jessica asked Bethany to call her aunt Jessie

omg, that is a great explanation! i didn’t ever think about bethany leaving in charlotte’s clothes and if she left pretending to be charlotte. i do think mary could be bethany’s mom, too! the aunt jessi thing feels like a giveaway but like, it must be. esp with beth’s drawings and all of the murkiness of what happened that had bethany so angry at presumably jessica/ali

it’s weird imo that there are clues for mary to be spencer’s birth mother, bethany’s, and sara’s, but i doubt they’ll make her mom to half of rosewood so if i did have to pick which i think is most likely i’d go with beth

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It would be great if it came back around to my theory that Spencer and Bethany are twins and Mary is their mother!

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Never trust a pretty girl with an ugly secret

Hi everyone! I’ve been working on this theory for months and I promised everyone I would post it. I think this is the best theory I’ve written. So here it is. Spencer is Uber -A and Charlotte’s killer. There is A LOT of stuff that points to her and I will explain everything in this post. She was wearing the black hoodie way BEFORE CeCe was revealed as “A”. She was working solo. She was always one step ahead of A and I’m going to prove it here. First we have to look at “A” It’s a rule for “A” either if you’re ORIGINAL, BIG, or UBER, whatever… you have to be a incredibly smart

“A” can’t be just played by anyone from the show. The person who is behind the stalking and the threats HAS to have everything under control. There are only 4 people that can play this role and it’s: Spencer, Mona, Wren, and Lucas. A lot of people say that none of the liars can’t be A because they are the ones that get the threats. This is a lie because if you go back to season 2, Mona was sending herself texts and she was ‘A’. In season 4, supposedly CeCe dressed herself as Red Coat to help Alison save Emily from “A” and she was the one behind it. Never ever trust ANYONE on the show. The show is about LYING.

Marlene King described Uber ‘A’ as the smartest and most motivated A of all. Spencer is one of the smartest characters on the show along with Mona. We are talking about a genius here. There are currently three villains on the show:

A.D / Uber A = Charlotte’s killer

Amoji = Elliott Rollins & Mary Drake

Uber A is indeed the smartest A of all because she’s the killer and is pretending to find Charlotte’s killer when she’s the one behind it

Uber A is Charlotte’s killer and here’s why: Mary and Elliott are working with Uber A (I think they don’t even know who this person is and their motives, they are just pawns because they think this person is also looking for Charlotte’s killer) Uber A is incredibly smart to just expose their identity. Every “A” is an anonymous character. Back when CeCe was A no one from the team knew it was her just Sara but of course she had to expose herself so she could force her to help and lock her in the dollhouse

In other words, “A” is the killer and is trying to find someone to blame for the murder. She’s hiding in plain sight while she’s enjoying the show. Literally.

Spencer has everything to be A. She has the brain, she has the resources, money, the liars’ trust, she has her family that will protect her at all costs. Literally, Peter believed that Spencer had killed Alison and that’s why she was protecting her. She has EVERYTHING to play such sinister game.

In 3x01 “It Happened that Night”, 5 months have passed after Mona is revealed as A and Maya’s death. 3x01 has been known as “The Return of Uber A”. These are the people that are in this episode.

Alison, Spencer, Hanna, Emily, Aria, Mona, Ezra, Caleb, Toby, Wren, Lucas, Ella, Ashley, Veronica, and Garrett. 

The liars are having a sleepover at Spencer’s house and this is when Emily is drugged with Milizopam and is taken to the cemetery. If you re-watch the scene which is here you can see that it was impossible for anyone else to drug her. She was drugged by one of the liars and it was SPENCER! Spencer took the flask from her. No one else was in the house. Spencer is the first one to find out that Emily is gone without telling the other two; it wasn’t until Aria finds out that Emily is missing. Spencer only says “She’s gone, I looked everywhere” When they find Emily at the cemetery. Spencer tells them that someone called Emily from her phone. If someone else called Emily from her phone, she would’ve known who it was. She’s not a dumb bitch. She called her. By the way, 3x01 parallels to the pilot episode if any of you haven’t noticed.

Something that caught my attention was the reference she brought up in 3x12. She makes a reference to the film Basic Instinct. I’ve watched this episode several times and I ignored this reference…but it’s really interesting because it connects to someone’s death.

Spencer: Uh, drugging yourself is the best alibi ever. Classic Sharon stone move. Remember that movie, basic instinct? No. No. She wrote a murder mystery novel to cover up a crime that she was about to commit. It was actually kind of genius.

If you’re not familiar with Basic Instinct. It’s an erotic film in which a crime novelist and psychologist woman named Catherine Tramell played by Sharon Stone murders people and uses her novels as alibis. One of the famous quotes from the film is “ Writing a book about it gives you an alibi for not killing him” Catherine is a serial murderer and a master manipulator (very similar to Alison from the books by the way) If you haven’t noticed, 3x12 parallels to 6x12. “The Lady Killer” foreshadowed a female’s death 3 seasons later and it was Charlotte’s aka CeCe Drake and in that episode everyone is looking for an alibi

Spencer confesses to Caleb that Charlotte was murdered very similar to what she had written in her college essay. The essay = alibi. Reference to Basic Instinct. The perfect murder, the perfect alibi. Spencer and Caleb’s relationship is somewhat similar to the film. Spencer would be Catherine Tramell and Caleb would Detective Nick Curran who is investigating the homicide. In the movie, Curran cannot seem to let go of Tramell and is drawn in by her wit, charm, beauty, and fearsome seduction.

Going back to the scene in the pilot episode where she thinks she heard Alison scream. Spencer always acted shady about that night Alison disappeared and it’s because  she was in fact going to kill Alison but it was too late for her to do that. Charlotte bashed Alison’s head and Alison was buried alive. That’s why she left the barn and was looking for her but never found her. Alison was probably on her way to the Lost Woods Resort with Mona. Spencer was the one that hated Alison the most even after their reunion in 4x24 there was still tension between them. Indeed, Girls fight a lot dirtier than boys. She was going to murder Alison but someone else did it for her. She was going to kill Alison that night and was going to use the “I was drugged” as an alibi if anyone would suspect her. 

Spencer is that character that everyone trusts and plans ahead. MARY QUEEN OF SCOTS! This has been talked in the fandom for years of her dressing up as Mary Queen of Scots on the first Halloween episode. Mary Queen of Scots was found guilty of plotting to assassinate Elizabeth I who was the queen at that time. Mary wanted to become Queen and the only way she could was to assassinate Elizabeth. This perfectly fits with Alison/Spencer and Spencer/Charlotte. She plot to kill Alison to become the “leader” of the group. Mary Queen of Scots wanted power. She plot to kill Charlotte to takeover the “A” game. 

AND IT ALL LEADS BACK TO RADLEY! Every person that has turned out to be bad or A somehow has been in Radley. It’s a PATTERN. Radley holds all the answers

Mona = Original A CeCe = Big A Mary Drake = Twin Spencer = A-team member

Something that connects both families (Hastings and DiLaurentis) is Radley Sanitarium and Jessica’s affair with Peter.

The Hastings have a secret from Radley. This is why Peter had an agreement with Jessica DiLaurentis and wanted for Toby to sign the papers so they could close Radley. Here’s the story: 

Spencer was adopted from Radley by Peter and Veronica Hastings. Veronica wanted another child but developed an illness that led to her cancer later on. She couldn’t risk getting pregnant again. So she decided to adopt a child. Spencer was in Radley as a child and this is what we are going to find out about her in season 7. Troian confirmed that Spencer is hiding something and that we will find out next season. It explains why she felt a connection with “Charles” in the vault room. She felt like Charles was someone who she met a long time ago when she was very little. Yes, because they were both patients at Radley. 

A lot of people say that she felt a connection because they went apple picking together. Which is true, but it was never mentioned that both families went together. Plus, Charles went there when he was 5 before he was sent to Radley. Spencer at that time was a baby. Too young to feel a connection. Her dream about Radley where we see the girl played by Maddie Ziegler proves this. That scene is NOT irrelevant as we are led to believe. Yes, Maddie is a big fan of the show and wanted to be in it. But c’mon if you are putting her on the show just because she’s a fan why not a scene at the Brew or somewhere else? Spencer is unstable that’s why she was in a mental institution and this is why Peter thought that she was capable of murdering Alison because they know she has mental issues. Jessica also mentioned one time that Spencer had something against the family and wanted Alison to stay away from her

Another thing that proves that’s she’s adopted is that she said that Hide & Seek was her favorite childhood game with Melissa because she always won but Melissa doesn’t remember. She must’ve been playing with someone at Radley. 

Another film reference that points to Spencer as being “A” one of the A messages Uber A sends was “I don’t lurk in the shadows, I hide in plain sight” if you google “Hide in Plain Sight” you will notice that this is a 1980 film and is written by a screenwriter named Spencer. A clue?

There is a lot of confusion as to who sent the messages. Mary & Elliot were sending the texts with the emojis. Uber A is signing as A.D and the last message you can see that there were no emojis

SHAKESPEARE! SHAKESPEARE! There is only one character on the show that’s obsessed with Shakespeare and that’s Spencer Hastings.

Colin: It’s just that Melissa mentioned you liked Shakespeare, so…

Spencer: I don’t like Shakespeare. I love Shakespeare.

Colin: They’re doing Hamlet at the RSC.

Spencer: Seriously? Oh, my gosh, seeing a play at the Royal Shakespeare Company is on my bucket list.

Colin: I didn’t know 18-year-olds had bucket lists. Is that an American thing? Spencer: No, it’s a Hastings thing. I’ve had mine since I was six. And Hamlet is my favorite.

That’sWhatAsaid is one of the writers (I think it’s Joseph Dougherty) tweets riddles and most of them are clues about the “A” mystery

There is one scene from season 4 that still bothers me and I want an explanation but since it hasn’t been explained, I will use it in this theory and it works out with Spencer. The ending of 4x09 “Into the Deep” ends with two “A” endings one person is in the black hoodie playing the piano and the other one was red coat sneaking into the DiLaurentis house This Red Coat was confirmed by @ThatsWhatASaid and by Marlene herself that it was CeCe who was surveilling in her family’s house. So who is in the black hoodie playing the piano?

This could be a plot hole but I doubt it. There are only 4 people on the show that play the piano and that’s Alison, Spencer, Mona, Aria, and Melissa. We know that Melissa had piano lessons with Spencer. We knew a lot of things about CeCe and the things she enjoyed but it was NEVER mentioned on the show that she played the piano. The person playing the piano is definitely Spencer and I will prove it. This “A” sent Toby musical notes and it was because Marion enjoyed playing the piano. The proof that this is Spencer are the musical notes. The musical notes must’ve been in Radley because that’s where Marion spent her last days. Spencer was in Radley and she got them from there. Coincidentally, in the episode “Will The Circle be Unbroken” (3x22) is when Spencer learns from Eddie Lamb that Marion Cavanaugh used to be a patient there and after this season, “A” starts helping Toby find out about his mom’s death giving him personal stuff like photos, cds, etc. 

How did she find out about her personal stuff? If you don’t remember, there was a board game called “Voyage” and according to Eddie Lamb, Mona used to play it when she was at Radley. The board game is a map of Radley with secret rooms and exits. Thanks to this board game she knew every door in Radley and that’s how she had access to Marion’s personal stuff. Plus, it looks like This proves that there was was someone else working solo, Uber A. CeCe wasn’t in all the A endings wearing the black hoodie that’s for sure.

In 5x08, Spencer and Emily go to the stables where Jessica was taking Bethany. In that episode, there is a horse that goes wild and kicks the gate and something goes into Spencer’s eye making her go to see the eye doctor the next episode. This is where Spencer sees two “Jennas” but it was Jenna and Sydney, who was going with Jenna to the appointments. In the end of that episode, we see “A” at the eye doctor. This can NOT be CeCe because as far as we know “A” didn’t have a reason to go to see an eye doctor. There are only two people that needed to see an eye doctor and that was Spencer and Jenna. This can NOT be Jenna because she’s blind and Sydney used to go with her to the appointments. There is only one person left. SPENCER!

One last thing, someone was blackmailing Melissa in 6B with her confession about killing Bethany. It was revealed by Hanna that Charlotte had called Wren and told him about Melissa killing Bethany which ended their relationship. Now, Charlotte had no proof of this because Melissa filmed her confession and gave it to Spencer only. Only Spencer had the tape. No one else had access to it. 

We know the show is full of fan service but there has to be a reason why Spoby is most likely not going to be endgame. 

She has everything to be -A. There are no excuses to not make her bad. I want a huge betrayal. 

Please give me credit. I’ve worked so hard on this and it’s just unfair if you say it’s yours. If you want to talk about it follow me on twitter @ifuseektroian

Never trust a pretty girl with an ugly secret

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701 Clue: Could Toby Suspect Spencer?

I change my theory all the time but right now I am on board with the Spencer twin theory and that this twin is A.D.  I believe the Spencer in 701′s episode is her twin posing as Spencer.  This post is not about why I believe that as there are a ton of theories going around about that. But I noticed something that may mean Toby has the same idea.

Rewatch the scene where Mona reads the names of who they each think killed Charlotte.  After every name she reads, the camera goes to the person who wrote that name.  When Mona reads the last two names though (Spencer and Alison again), the camera goes to Mona both times.  We never see which one Toby picks.  I think we are supposed to assume Mona wrote Spencer’s name and Toby wrote Alison.  But why would Mona, or anyone for that matter, think Spencer did it?  We all know Mona would susoect Alison.  She’ll never trust her.

Toby knows Spencer better than anyone else.  Maybe he picked up on something that leads him to believe this Spencer isn’t who she says she is.  Or maybe he discovered something in a file somewhere, since he is a police officer and has access to a lot more than the liars do.

What do you guys think?

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Ok maybe I missed it but about 5 mins in we see Spencer texting someone “How do you know Hanna’s still alive?

She turned around and you can see Caleb Mona Emily Ezra Aria Toby

…

Who the fuck was Spencer texting?

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This has been driving me crazy!

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This photo is from set today. 6x17 Who is this girl in black? At first I thought she was Troian (Spencer) but then I realized that Troian is the one that’s wearing a red skirt. This girl look exactly like her. Is she one of the crew? Or the infamous #TwinTheory ????

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AD possibilities

Right now I think it could be any of the following: Andrew Drake, Another DiLaurentis, After Death (like a biblical reference AD and BC and related to avenging CeCe Drakes death) Ali DiLaurentis, or Aria Drake.

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Do we know Ashley’s maiden name?

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My first meme =D

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HANNA  TWIN IS A!!

The very fun frustrating part of this show is that you can make an argument that every character can be A, like how last night I was positive Ali killed Charlotte, but then I saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYljKdDKLD8

about how the writers had planned to go with the same plot as the books that A is Ali’s twin Courtney, but changed their minds, and then I saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FqA_lJtDIU and how Pll is inspired by the films Vertigo and Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte, the latter was in the theory I did here 

http://mhughes978.tumblr.com/post/139951071508/pll-finale-wrens-twin

 this last episode gave a HUGE clue, and the more I started to think about it, the more obvious it was. Hanna’s twin is A and she killed Charlotte.

Why? Her twin is Bethany. There is a definitely a reason we haven’t seen her face. Her current one not the flashback.

Cece is the one who killed Toby’s mom not Bethany, when Bethany broke out of the cell she wasn’t going after Jessica she was going after Charlotte. Mona thought she killed her, Melissa buried her, that shot we see of her hand going up the other one reaching back is probably Hanna’s.

1. In the S3 finale the liars are trying to figure out Spencer’s loyalty to them  by seeing if she knows Redcoat’s identity. Spencer follows redcoat into the bathroom they realize she is still with them because instead of calling her name she taps her on the shoulder

Why pick Hanna out of all the other girls.

2. S3 holds a lot of important Hanna clues. Which correct me if I’m wrong is when Marlene said she decided who A was. In the episode where Hanna is going for a job interview Marlene posted this

I mean hello!! Mirror shot like these represent either split personalities or twins and the redcoat I think is foreshadowing to when we see Hanna in the above picture.

3. In S4 when they’re in Ravenswood  Hanna see two young girls in redcoats but not their faces 

like a nod to Bethany

4. S4 When Mona and Spencer use Wilden’s phone they call contact number Kisses. Hanna answers and says hello. She says “why are you calling on me my moms phone?” Nice lie Hanna given Wilden’s history with your mom. More like you were busted and got called on your burner phone. Kisses like how A signs off her messages.

5. Hanna is SMART. Spencer is known as the genius of the group but we learn in S5 Hanna is a genius and even got into more colleges than Spencer. In s5 there’s a flashback Mona gives Hanna a book Hanna says that’s a Spencer Hastings book. Mona says you’re smarter than Spencer you just use as a way to hide. Very true no one expects Hanna to be devious.

6. BIG CLUE. In S5 EX 16. Spencer and Caleb go to the apartment building to find Mona’s laptop. Spencer runs into Mrs. Horowitz their teacher this conversation is so important. Mrs. Horowitz complains about the smell. Spencer says “ have you talked to the renter about it.” “Oh there’s was this blonde girl about a month ago” “What does she look like?” “ I tried to stop her, but she was in a hurry didn’t see her face” Yeah I bet running into your teacher after disposing a body would really be a buzzkill. Who’s in the bin? My guess is Eddie he knew something about Bethany. All roads lead back to Radley

7. Now in case you’re wondering how is that Hanna it’s probably Cece. Look at this and be prepared to say HOLY SHIT

This is a picture of Spencer and Caleb in the building

Next episode Hanna goes with Caleb to dispose the bin I wonder why

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SHE ALREADY KNEW WHERE TO GO!!!!

8.In the episode first secret. Spencer gets Ali to “help” her win the election. At the party Ali being the biatch she is (I MISS THAT ALI) hands Spencer the extra stubs. Spencer burns them Ali says “I would have looked first never know who your friend aren’t” Camera pans to Aria and Hanna. This leads back to the earlier reasons , Hanna being unsuspected, I always thought it was Aria, but it was Hanna.

9. Another big one

In this last episode we see a flashback with Melissa and Hanna. Melissa ( who needs so much more screen-time) tells Hanna Wren dumped her because Cece told him how Melissa buried Bethany. THAT’S why Charlotte died. “If she told him who would she tell’ Hanna had to get rid of Charlotte so here comes the murder plot. Also go back and rewatch that scene when Emily tells her about Melissa. Hanna looks extremely nervous, and then immediately goes to Spencer and Caleb to put the blame on her.

Like I said before Marlene was inspired by the film Vertigo.  The plot is that a detective who has a fear of heights loses her partner. An acquaintance of his hires him to follow his wife Madelaine who’s been acting strangely.  Her husband believes his wife has been possessed by her great grandmother.

He does and they fall in love, but then one day they’re near a church where Madeline claims to have nightmares ,Madeline runs to the church, and since the detective is afraid of heights can’t go up to save her. He sees her body fall to the death.  He becomes obsessed with her. Later he meets a woman named Judy who looks like Madeline, the detective asks her to dress up like Madeline, he notices the necklace was the same one Madeline wore. He drives up to the church and makes her tell him to the truth. Madeline and Judy are the same. The husband paid Judy to impersonate his wife, while he killed her. The Madeline he sees going up to the church is Judy, the one falling to her death is an already dead Madeline.

We learn in 6x11 that Charlotte did not kill herself, but was murdered . “She was murdered?” Hanna says nice way to make it seem like you care

Ok soo here’s what I think happened. Cece gets a phone call telling her to meet at the church. OR IS THAT CECE?

Look at this credit goes @ezraxaria

The car in the back is Hanna driving away.

This is Hanna’s twin Bethany. Impersonating Charlotte

They killed her earlier and now are setting up the suicide plot. Bethany takes Charlotte up there and drops her off.

Next episode Hanna puts the blame game on Aria because she saw them, but Aria didn’t bother to ask what Hanna was doing either. She didn’t delete the footage for Aria’s benefit she did it for her.

She told her mom on purpose she knew that her mom would do what she’s always done and save her ass by stealing the footage.

Going to the dinner scene at Ali’s house. Ali is pissed at Aria for saying Charlotte should not come home, and then leaving town when she died. During the prayer Ali says “let us find whoever killed Charlotte him or HER” Camera goes to 

MHMMMM

In the ending of this episode A has a piece of cake. The very first shot of the scene

She’s a mastermind, an absolute genius. 

@rosewoodspy @redcoatblackveil @bitchcankeepasecret @plltherapysessions @spencersbarn @pllsugar @spencers-bleeding-purse @tremolux @rosewoodsecret @princessvanderwaal 

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I love ‘Aria is A’ theorists...

because literally nothing kills their zest for their theory. nearly everyone else (with the exception of some Wren theorists) has thrown in the towel completely, when it comes to analyzing and theorizing. But not Aria kids. She looks sideways at a character and their theories come back to life like a daisy through concrete. 

You are like cockroaches after the apocalypse. And I swear, I mean that with love. 

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That’s me! Can’t stop won’t stop.

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Chanel Vs. Walmart

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hahahaha

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Patty, the mechanic, was paid by Uber A (not the emoticon A) to steal the murder weapon. UBER A IS CHARLOTTE’S KILLER.

She was the one driving the car, that’s why it’s in there.

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Ian had help. There’s no way he could have filmed it all on his own. At times, I even thought he was filming it for someone else.

Jason to Spencer

GUYS, CHARLES PROBABLY FOUNDED THE NAT CLUB SECRETLY TO LEARN ABOUT HIS FAMILY. 

(via dripsfromourtongueslikehoney)

WILDEN?

(via prettyandlittlesecrets)

That’s definitely how A is all-knowing.  He has cameras all over town that were set up by the NAT Club.  I really hope it’s Wilden.

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"When life gives you lemons" (Part 2)

Aria: turns the lemons into earrings

Spencer: asks Sabrina to put sleeping pills in the lemons

Hanna: asks Spencer if she can get to taste the lemons

Spencer: no Hanna you can't taste the lemons. they are mine

Toby: takes Spencer lemons without asking, get drugged and almost die

Jason: Makes lemonade and ask Charles if he wants to share

Leslie: Calls the lemons a bag of hair for no reason

Peter Hastings: takes the lemons to the airport so they can fly to London

Wren: misses out the "L" in lemons

Shana: gets pushed off a stage by the lemons and dies

Talia: kisses the lemons, than she later tells them that she's married to a pineapple that she met in 9th grade and that they still love each other but not in a romantic way

Melissa: buries the lemons because she saw them lying on the ground

Mrs Grunwald: I only dead lemons

Mike: leaves gummy bears for the lemons

Maya: smokes the lemons

Bethany: makes a painting of the lemons

Toby's mom: forces the lemons to jump off the roof

Tom Marin: sorry lemons I don't have time for you

Me: throw the lemons on Charles so he may get hurt!

Veronica: YES!!

Ashley, Pam and Ella: no Veronica

Fandom: trends the hashtags #SummerOfLemons and #VeronicaThrowingLemons

Plot twist: Andrew's family owns the lemon farm

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CeCe was not visiting Mona, the patient numbers are not the same.

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oooooh, great find!