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[user8173735141426748481]

[user8173735141426748481]

I know I’ve posted this before, but it has really helped me and I hope it’ll help you guys too🥰

[user8173735141426748481]

[germansdoitbetter19]

Just an observation here. No offense is meant. But gays and trans people don't reproduce all that well. So is the change going to be a huge drop in population?

[user8173735141426748481]

A lot of gay or trans people often adopt. There’s so many babies and children that doesn’t have parents and live in orphanages or something. That would just mean that they’ll get homes and family’s. Idk there might become fewer people on the earth, but idk if that would be a bad thing if it means that orphans would get families.

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[izzthelizz]

where's the source for that now

you can't just assume somebody's not lgbtq because they're not dating the opposite sex, if that is what you're talking about

peoples sexualities vary and can't be categorised like that

and lastly why are you even mad that there are more openly gay people than in the past, you act like it's a bad thing

[lesbianshate2020]

Source for what? What are you talking about? You’re going off on a tangent about something I’m not even talking about. I’m going to block you now because it’s obvious you’re just trying to start an argument. You’re not reading anything I’m saying and you’re deliberately ignoring all of my points. I don’t have the energy to go round in circles with trolls

[user8173735141426748481]

I get that you think there are more people that are faking being a part of the lgbtq+ than it used to be, and honestly it is. But a lot of the people aren’t faking it, they just feel like they’re more accepted than they used to be.

[isappho-deactivated20240418]

[the comment still reads On my mom’s side, 50% of my cousins are lgbtqa2s+ and three of the remainder are younger than 8, so can’t tell yet, if their older, gayer siblings shall make them gay] i mean izzthelizz isnt ignoring ur points, ur making points and then saying its a tangent so idk what to tell u. yes, ppl are faking being queer or lgbt+. but why does that mean actual queer or lgbt+ ppl should be punished? why cant we just respect someone experimenting? and if someone says that they are a specific sexuality or gender, we should respect that even if u think they're faking. we dont know their personal experience with gender or sexuality and we have no right to tell someone that theyre faking.

[crittizen]

Yeah well she’s pretty used to telling people they’re faking, because she’s a notorious terf.

[jeste-posting]

Explains a lot 👀

[captainrandomstranger18]

Oof

[user8173735141426748481]

Holy sh*t haha

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[izzthelizz]

where's the source for that now

you can't just assume somebody's not lgbtq because they're not dating the opposite sex, if that is what you're talking about

peoples sexualities vary and can't be categorised like that

and lastly why are you even mad that there are more openly gay people than in the past, you act like it's a bad thing

[lesbianshate2020]

Source for what? What are you talking about? You’re going off on a tangent about something I’m not even talking about. I’m going to block you now because it’s obvious you’re just trying to start an argument. You’re not reading anything I’m saying and you’re deliberately ignoring all of my points. I don’t have the energy to go round in circles with trolls

[user8173735141426748481]

I get that you think there are more people that are faking being a part of the lgbtq+ than it used to be, and honestly it is. But a lot of the people aren’t faking it, they just feel like they’re more accepted than they used to be.

[lesbianshate2020]

And they’re not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about people faking it. I’m saying there are tons of people faking same sex attraction for attention and that’s why we shouldn’t cal anything the “gayest generation” because it encourages these people. Why are you bringing up people coming out? That’s not what I’m talking about. I feel like I’m just repeating things here.

[user8173735141426748481]

But that’s what the post says. We are the gayest generation because way more lgbtq+ gen z people are out than lgbtq+ boomers or millennials.

[lesbianshate2020]

Why does it matter if gay people are out or not? They’re still gay. That doesn’t mean there are more gay people now than fifty years ago. The post is making it sound like that’s the case, and it’s not. That’s my whole issue with it. And people are using that to claim that there are more gay people when in fact there are more fakers.

An easier solution to this would be to call us the most accepting generation? Because there are more accepting people now. Not more gay people.

[user8173735141426748481]

1. It actually kind of matters. If someone isn’t out, you don’t know if they’re lgbtq+ or not.

2. Nowadays people know more about the lgbtq+ community and it is easier to identify yourself as that when you know what it is. A lot of older generations haven’t had the same amount of information about it, and therefore they may not have known that for example being attracted to several genders is a thing, and then because they are attracted to the opposite gender as well, they think they’re straight.

Look, I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think that’s what they mean.

[lesbianshate2020]

That doesn’t change that there were the same amount of gay people back then as there is now. Not knowing doesn’t make you straight. You not knowing if your neighbour is gay doesn’t make them straight. Our generation is “as gay” as it was back back then.

[user8173735141426748481]

But literally how can you know that if they identify as straight or cis.

[lesbianshate2020]

So you’re saying there ARE more gay people now? Somehow?

[user8173735141426748481]

I’m saying, there are more people who are out now, and if someone who isn’t out identifies as straight or cis, you can’t say that they’re lgbtq+, since they say they aren’t. That means, ON PAPER, there are more lgbtq+ people now.

That’s all I’m saying.

[lesbianshate2020]

Doesn’t change the fact that gay people still existed, dude. They existed but either didn’t know what it was or didn’t come out. There are not more gay people now than there were fifty years ago, and if you think that’s not true then I’ll ask you this - why are there suddenly more people being born as same sex attracted? What caused this to happen? If acceptance is the only reason why there are apparently more gay people, then you’re saying it’s a choice, proving my point that a lot of people are identifying this way for attention.

[user8173735141426748481]

But we are the gayest generation, because you don’t know the lgbtq+ people that are in the closet. You can’t say they’re lgbtq+ if they say they aren’t. Like sure, there may be the same amount, but if they someone DOESNT KNOW that they’re bi, you can’t count them as lgbtq+ if they say that they are straight.

[lesbianshate2020]

You didn’t answer any of my questions.

[user8173735141426748481]

I’m not saying that there are more people attracted to the same sex. But if people don’t know that they are and therefore say that they’re straight, you can’t say that they are lgbtq+ when they’re denying it. And we’re not only talking about gay/bi/straight people here, we’re also talking about nonbinary, gender fluid, demisexual etc, which a lot of people in older generations haven’t identified themselves as because they don’t know it exists.

And honestly, we’re not going anywhere with this, can’t we just agree to disagree?

[lesbianshate2020]

Good grief. They didn’t identify as any of THAT because it doesn’t exist. Yes, I’ll agree to disagree with you that gay people haven’t existed before the 2000s because I can accept that that is an unbelievably stupid thing to believe and I can accept that I can’t change stupid.

[artemisandlioness]

Gen Z call themselves “the gayest generation” because they think dyeing your hair makes you kweer. That having a facial piercing makes you kweer. Which of course means gay, because “gay is an umbrella term” and q*eer is used as a slur against gay people (esp men).

Their logic is impressively homophobic. There’s more kweerios now than ever before but they’re not gay. They’re just dickheads.

The fact that OP even mentions demiwhatevers and nonbinarinos proves that they’re a homophobe. Homophobes have no business talking about gay people so to all the dumbass kweers out there -

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

[user8173735141426748481]

Bro. That didn’t make any sense. And are you calling me a homophobe? You need to relax.

[artemisandlioness]

It makes perfect sense, but I already know you can’t read. Gen Z call themselves queer because they dye their hair or get a nose piercing and that makes them special and gay and non-binary. None of which is true. So Gen Z is NOT the “gayest generation” because they’re faking it. I just change the spelling so as not to trigger actual gay people who hear the word as a slur, because it is a hateful slur toward gay people.

Every single person who “believes” this mogai non binary queer shit is absolutely homophobic. It’s not our fault you guys can’t use your brains. And I will not “relax”, because I’m sick of this shit! Way to show your misogyny though 👌🏻

[user8173735141426748481]

Honestly I’m too tired for this but here we go I guess.

1 of all I’ve never been rude to you, so please stop. “I alReAdY knOw YoU cAn’T rEaD” and “It’S nOt OuR fAuLt yOu GuYs Can’T uSe YoUr BrAiNs” like can’t we just discuss this normally?

2nd Gen z people don’t call themselves lgbtq+ because they color their hair or get a piercing. That’s ridiculous. You’re talking about it like everyone is faking it. “Gen z is not the gayest generation because they’re faking it”. I know there are some people who are faking it but that isn’t the majority!

3rd nonbinary people are real. I’m not nonbinary so therefore I don’t feel like I can talk on they’re behalf. But if someone says they’re nonbinary I’m going to believe them and support them.

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[izzthelizz]

where's the source for that now

you can't just assume somebody's not lgbtq because they're not dating the opposite sex, if that is what you're talking about

peoples sexualities vary and can't be categorised like that

and lastly why are you even mad that there are more openly gay people than in the past, you act like it's a bad thing

[lesbianshate2020]

Source for what? What are you talking about? You’re going off on a tangent about something I’m not even talking about. I’m going to block you now because it’s obvious you’re just trying to start an argument. You’re not reading anything I’m saying and you’re deliberately ignoring all of my points. I don’t have the energy to go round in circles with trolls

[user8173735141426748481]

I get that you think there are more people that are faking being a part of the lgbtq+ than it used to be, and honestly it is. But a lot of the people aren’t faking it, they just feel like they’re more accepted than they used to be.

[isappho-deactivated20240418]

[the comment still reads On my mom’s side, 50% of my cousins are lgbtqa2s+ and three of the remainder are younger than 8, so can’t tell yet, if their older, gayer siblings shall make them gay] i mean izzthelizz isnt ignoring ur points, ur making points and then saying its a tangent so idk what to tell u. yes, ppl are faking being queer or lgbt+. but why does that mean actual queer or lgbt+ ppl should be punished? why cant we just respect someone experimenting? and if someone says that they are a specific sexuality or gender, we should respect that even if u think they're faking. we dont know their personal experience with gender or sexuality and we have no right to tell someone that theyre faking.

[crittizen]

Yeah well she’s pretty used to telling people they’re faking, because she’s a notorious terf.

[the-ironphoenix]

(I’m so sorry I’m getting in the middle of this, but apparently I’m in a friendly but argumentative mood today. I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings or bash anyone’s personal experiences, and if I do, I’m really sorry! That is not my intention. Also, if you don’t want to read this, you definitely don’t have to.)

Firstly, to those arguing that Gen Z is not the “gayest generation”, technically, even if the percentage of people who are LGBTQ+ has stayed the same throughout human history, it could be argued that because there are now more humans living on Earth than ever before, we contain the greatest number of people who are LGBTQ+. *shrugs* I’m sorry, I had to say it because I was thinking it. 

But I really don’t think that’s the point. I totally understand the concern about people who aren’t in the LGBTQ+ community claiming to be part of the community to somehow “boost their status” or whatever, but I think some people might be missing the point? Which is that because past generations of LGBTQ+ people have worked really, really hard, young people in my generation have the opportunity to actually question their sexual/gender identity instead of just going with the default of heterosexual. Obviously, this might mean that some people figure out during high school and college that they are not, in fact, LGBTQ+, and that’s okay! 

But the main reason I chose to comment on this debate is because I really feel like it’s directed at me personally, because I’m currently questioning my sexual preferences, and I have been for the last few years. This has really weighed on my heart and soul because sometimes I’m like, “I’m definitely not purely heterosexual”, and then other days I wonder if I might be. And what I’m so thankful for is that in this generation that’s okay. I can experiment and figure out what my sexuality is without the fear of being ostracized, and that’s so powerful. So if even if it’s “bad” that some people might claim to be part of the community even though they know they’re not, isn’t it better that way so that people who genuinely are questioning have the freedom to do so? 

[user8173735141426748481]

I think that’s the whole point of the post so thank you for explaining it so well🥰🥰 Also hope you figure everything out soon, I’ve also gone through that and it is stressful af haha❤️

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[izzthelizz]

where's the source for that now

you can't just assume somebody's not lgbtq because they're not dating the opposite sex, if that is what you're talking about

peoples sexualities vary and can't be categorised like that

and lastly why are you even mad that there are more openly gay people than in the past, you act like it's a bad thing

[lesbianshate2020]

Source for what? What are you talking about? You’re going off on a tangent about something I’m not even talking about. I’m going to block you now because it’s obvious you’re just trying to start an argument. You’re not reading anything I’m saying and you’re deliberately ignoring all of my points. I don’t have the energy to go round in circles with trolls

[user8173735141426748481]

I get that you think there are more people that are faking being a part of the lgbtq+ than it used to be, and honestly it is. But a lot of the people aren’t faking it, they just feel like they’re more accepted than they used to be.

[lesbianshate2020]

And they’re not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about people faking it. I’m saying there are tons of people faking same sex attraction for attention and that’s why we shouldn’t cal anything the “gayest generation” because it encourages these people. Why are you bringing up people coming out? That’s not what I’m talking about. I feel like I’m just repeating things here.

[user8173735141426748481]

But that’s what the post says. We are the gayest generation because way more lgbtq+ gen z people are out than lgbtq+ boomers or millennials.

[lesbianshate2020]

Why does it matter if gay people are out or not? They’re still gay. That doesn’t mean there are more gay people now than fifty years ago. The post is making it sound like that’s the case, and it’s not. That’s my whole issue with it. And people are using that to claim that there are more gay people when in fact there are more fakers.

An easier solution to this would be to call us the most accepting generation? Because there are more accepting people now. Not more gay people.

[user8173735141426748481]

1. It actually kind of matters. If someone isn’t out, you don’t know if they’re lgbtq+ or not.

2. Nowadays people know more about the lgbtq+ community and it is easier to identify yourself as that when you know what it is. A lot of older generations haven’t had the same amount of information about it, and therefore they may not have known that for example being attracted to several genders is a thing, and then because they are attracted to the opposite gender as well, they think they’re straight.

Look, I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think that’s what they mean.

[lesbianshate2020]

That doesn’t change that there were the same amount of gay people back then as there is now. Not knowing doesn’t make you straight. You not knowing if your neighbour is gay doesn’t make them straight. Our generation is “as gay” as it was back back then.

[user8173735141426748481]

But literally how can you know that if they identify as straight or cis.

[lesbianshate2020]

So you’re saying there ARE more gay people now? Somehow?

[user8173735141426748481]

I’m saying, there are more people who are out now, and if someone who isn’t out identifies as straight or cis, you can’t say that they’re lgbtq+, since they say they aren’t. That means, ON PAPER, there are more lgbtq+ people now.

That’s all I’m saying.

[lesbianshate2020]

Doesn’t change the fact that gay people still existed, dude. They existed but either didn’t know what it was or didn’t come out. There are not more gay people now than there were fifty years ago, and if you think that’s not true then I’ll ask you this - why are there suddenly more people being born as same sex attracted? What caused this to happen? If acceptance is the only reason why there are apparently more gay people, then you’re saying it’s a choice, proving my point that a lot of people are identifying this way for attention.

[user8173735141426748481]

But we are the gayest generation, because you don’t know the lgbtq+ people that are in the closet. You can’t say they’re lgbtq+ if they say they aren’t. Like sure, there may be the same amount, but if they someone DOESNT KNOW that they’re bi, you can’t count them as lgbtq+ if they say that they are straight.

[lesbianshate2020]

You didn’t answer any of my questions.

[user8173735141426748481]

I’m not saying that there are more people attracted to the same sex. But if people don’t know that they are and therefore say that they’re straight, you can’t say that they are lgbtq+ when they’re denying it. And we’re not only talking about gay/bi/straight people here, we’re also talking about nonbinary, gender fluid, demisexual etc, which a lot of people in older generations haven’t identified themselves as because they don’t know it exists.

And honestly, we’re not going anywhere with this, can’t we just agree to disagree?

[lesbianshate2020]

Good grief. They didn’t identify as any of THAT because it doesn’t exist. Yes, I’ll agree to disagree with you that gay people haven’t existed before the 2000s because I can accept that that is an unbelievably stupid thing to believe and I can accept that I can’t change stupid.

[artemisandlioness]

Gen Z call themselves “the gayest generation” because they think dyeing your hair makes you kweer. That having a facial piercing makes you kweer. Which of course means gay, because “gay is an umbrella term” and q*eer is used as a slur against gay people (esp men).

Their logic is impressively homophobic. There’s more kweerios now than ever before but they’re not gay. They’re just dickheads.

The fact that OP even mentions demiwhatevers and nonbinarinos proves that they’re a homophobe. Homophobes have no business talking about gay people so to all the dumbass kweers out there -

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

[user8173735141426748481]

Bro. That didn’t make any sense. And are you calling me a homophobe? You need to relax.

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[izzthelizz]

where's the source for that now

you can't just assume somebody's not lgbtq because they're not dating the opposite sex, if that is what you're talking about

peoples sexualities vary and can't be categorised like that

and lastly why are you even mad that there are more openly gay people than in the past, you act like it's a bad thing

[lesbianshate2020]

Source for what? What are you talking about? You’re going off on a tangent about something I’m not even talking about. I’m going to block you now because it’s obvious you’re just trying to start an argument. You’re not reading anything I’m saying and you’re deliberately ignoring all of my points. I don’t have the energy to go round in circles with trolls

[user8173735141426748481]

I get that you think there are more people that are faking being a part of the lgbtq+ than it used to be, and honestly it is. But a lot of the people aren’t faking it, they just feel like they’re more accepted than they used to be.

[lesbianshate2020]

And they’re not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about people faking it. I’m saying there are tons of people faking same sex attraction for attention and that’s why we shouldn’t cal anything the “gayest generation” because it encourages these people. Why are you bringing up people coming out? That’s not what I’m talking about. I feel like I’m just repeating things here.

[user8173735141426748481]

But that’s what the post says. We are the gayest generation because way more lgbtq+ gen z people are out than lgbtq+ boomers or millennials.

[lesbianshate2020]

Why does it matter if gay people are out or not? They’re still gay. That doesn’t mean there are more gay people now than fifty years ago. The post is making it sound like that’s the case, and it’s not. That’s my whole issue with it. And people are using that to claim that there are more gay people when in fact there are more fakers.

An easier solution to this would be to call us the most accepting generation? Because there are more accepting people now. Not more gay people.

[user8173735141426748481]

1. It actually kind of matters. If someone isn’t out, you don’t know if they’re lgbtq+ or not.

2. Nowadays people know more about the lgbtq+ community and it is easier to identify yourself as that when you know what it is. A lot of older generations haven’t had the same amount of information about it, and therefore they may not have known that for example being attracted to several genders is a thing, and then because they are attracted to the opposite gender as well, they think they’re straight.

Look, I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think that’s what they mean.

[lesbianshate2020]

That doesn’t change that there were the same amount of gay people back then as there is now. Not knowing doesn’t make you straight. You not knowing if your neighbour is gay doesn’t make them straight. Our generation is “as gay” as it was back back then.

[user8173735141426748481]

But literally how can you know that if they identify as straight or cis.

[lesbianshate2020]

So you’re saying there ARE more gay people now? Somehow?

[user8173735141426748481]

I’m saying, there are more people who are out now, and if someone who isn’t out identifies as straight or cis, you can’t say that they’re lgbtq+, since they say they aren’t. That means, ON PAPER, there are more lgbtq+ people now.

That’s all I’m saying.

[lesbianshate2020]

Doesn’t change the fact that gay people still existed, dude. They existed but either didn’t know what it was or didn’t come out. There are not more gay people now than there were fifty years ago, and if you think that’s not true then I’ll ask you this - why are there suddenly more people being born as same sex attracted? What caused this to happen? If acceptance is the only reason why there are apparently more gay people, then you’re saying it’s a choice, proving my point that a lot of people are identifying this way for attention.

[user8173735141426748481]

But we are the gayest generation, because you don’t know the lgbtq+ people that are in the closet. You can’t say they’re lgbtq+ if they say they aren’t. Like sure, there may be the same amount, but if they someone DOESNT KNOW that they’re bi, you can’t count them as lgbtq+ if they say that they are straight.

[lesbianshate2020]

You didn’t answer any of my questions.

[user8173735141426748481]

I’m not saying that there are more people attracted to the same sex. But if people don’t know that they are and therefore say that they’re straight, you can’t say that they are lgbtq+ when they’re denying it. And we’re not only talking about gay/bi/straight people here, we’re also talking about nonbinary, gender fluid, demisexual etc, which a lot of people in older generations haven’t identified themselves as because they don’t know it exists.

And honestly, we’re not going anywhere with this, can’t we just agree to disagree?

[ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhb]

I mean you also could argue that there ARE more gay people because it's easier for someone to discover and accept that they're gay.

For example: my friends grandpa is bi. 20 years ago you wouldnt have counted him as lgbt because neighter him nor anyone else knew. He thought basic attraction was normal and understood that you shouldn't act on it. BUT NOW he knows what that attraction means and over the years came to terms with it and is now married to a man.

So yeah. You can say that there is one more lgbt person now right? Well that's what's happening. People are starting to understand what their feeling and labeling it.

If someone thought they were bi but realize they're gay there would be one more gay person and one less bi person cuz YOU COULDN'T HAVE KNOWN THEY WERE GAY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Idk that's just my view on things

[user8173735141426748481]

Thats true

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[izzthelizz]

where's the source for that now

you can't just assume somebody's not lgbtq because they're not dating the opposite sex, if that is what you're talking about

peoples sexualities vary and can't be categorised like that

and lastly why are you even mad that there are more openly gay people than in the past, you act like it's a bad thing

[lesbianshate2020]

Source for what? What are you talking about? You’re going off on a tangent about something I’m not even talking about. I’m going to block you now because it’s obvious you’re just trying to start an argument. You’re not reading anything I’m saying and you’re deliberately ignoring all of my points. I don’t have the energy to go round in circles with trolls

[user8173735141426748481]

I get that you think there are more people that are faking being a part of the lgbtq+ than it used to be, and honestly it is. But a lot of the people aren’t faking it, they just feel like they’re more accepted than they used to be.

[lesbianshate2020]

And they’re not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about people faking it. I’m saying there are tons of people faking same sex attraction for attention and that’s why we shouldn’t cal anything the “gayest generation” because it encourages these people. Why are you bringing up people coming out? That’s not what I’m talking about. I feel like I’m just repeating things here.

[user8173735141426748481]

But that’s what the post says. We are the gayest generation because way more lgbtq+ gen z people are out than lgbtq+ boomers or millennials.

[lesbianshate2020]

Why does it matter if gay people are out or not? They’re still gay. That doesn’t mean there are more gay people now than fifty years ago. The post is making it sound like that’s the case, and it’s not. That’s my whole issue with it. And people are using that to claim that there are more gay people when in fact there are more fakers.

An easier solution to this would be to call us the most accepting generation? Because there are more accepting people now. Not more gay people.

[user8173735141426748481]

1. It actually kind of matters. If someone isn’t out, you don’t know if they’re lgbtq+ or not.

2. Nowadays people know more about the lgbtq+ community and it is easier to identify yourself as that when you know what it is. A lot of older generations haven’t had the same amount of information about it, and therefore they may not have known that for example being attracted to several genders is a thing, and then because they are attracted to the opposite gender as well, they think they’re straight.

Look, I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think that’s what they mean.

[lesbianshate2020]

That doesn’t change that there were the same amount of gay people back then as there is now. Not knowing doesn’t make you straight. You not knowing if your neighbour is gay doesn’t make them straight. Our generation is “as gay” as it was back back then.

[user8173735141426748481]

But literally how can you know that if they identify as straight or cis.

[lesbianshate2020]

So you’re saying there ARE more gay people now? Somehow?

[user8173735141426748481]

I’m saying, there are more people who are out now, and if someone who isn’t out identifies as straight or cis, you can’t say that they’re lgbtq+, since they say they aren’t. That means, ON PAPER, there are more lgbtq+ people now.

That’s all I’m saying.

[lesbianshate2020]

Doesn’t change the fact that gay people still existed, dude. They existed but either didn’t know what it was or didn’t come out. There are not more gay people now than there were fifty years ago, and if you think that’s not true then I’ll ask you this - why are there suddenly more people being born as same sex attracted? What caused this to happen? If acceptance is the only reason why there are apparently more gay people, then you’re saying it’s a choice, proving my point that a lot of people are identifying this way for attention.

[user8173735141426748481]

But we are the gayest generation, because you don’t know the lgbtq+ people that are in the closet. You can’t say they’re lgbtq+ if they say they aren’t. Like sure, there may be the same amount, but if they someone DOESNT KNOW that they’re bi, you can’t count them as lgbtq+ if they say that they are straight.

[lesbianshate2020]

You didn’t answer any of my questions.

[user8173735141426748481]

I’m not saying that there are more people attracted to the same sex. But if people don’t know that they are and therefore say that they’re straight, you can’t say that they are lgbtq+ when they’re denying it. And we’re not only talking about gay/bi/straight people here, we’re also talking about nonbinary, gender fluid, demisexual etc, which a lot of people in older generations haven’t identified themselves as because they don’t know it exists.

And honestly, we’re not going anywhere with this, can’t we just agree to disagree?

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[izzthelizz]

where's the source for that now

you can't just assume somebody's not lgbtq because they're not dating the opposite sex, if that is what you're talking about

peoples sexualities vary and can't be categorised like that

and lastly why are you even mad that there are more openly gay people than in the past, you act like it's a bad thing

[lesbianshate2020]

Source for what? What are you talking about? You’re going off on a tangent about something I’m not even talking about. I’m going to block you now because it’s obvious you’re just trying to start an argument. You’re not reading anything I’m saying and you’re deliberately ignoring all of my points. I don’t have the energy to go round in circles with trolls

[user8173735141426748481]

I get that you think there are more people that are faking being a part of the lgbtq+ than it used to be, and honestly it is. But a lot of the people aren’t faking it, they just feel like they’re more accepted than they used to be.

[lesbianshate2020]

And they’re not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about people faking it. I’m saying there are tons of people faking same sex attraction for attention and that’s why we shouldn’t cal anything the “gayest generation” because it encourages these people. Why are you bringing up people coming out? That’s not what I’m talking about. I feel like I’m just repeating things here.

[user8173735141426748481]

But that’s what the post says. We are the gayest generation because way more lgbtq+ gen z people are out than lgbtq+ boomers or millennials.

[lesbianshate2020]

Why does it matter if gay people are out or not? They’re still gay. That doesn’t mean there are more gay people now than fifty years ago. The post is making it sound like that’s the case, and it’s not. That’s my whole issue with it. And people are using that to claim that there are more gay people when in fact there are more fakers.

An easier solution to this would be to call us the most accepting generation? Because there are more accepting people now. Not more gay people.

[user8173735141426748481]

1. It actually kind of matters. If someone isn’t out, you don’t know if they’re lgbtq+ or not.

2. Nowadays people know more about the lgbtq+ community and it is easier to identify yourself as that when you know what it is. A lot of older generations haven’t had the same amount of information about it, and therefore they may not have known that for example being attracted to several genders is a thing, and then because they are attracted to the opposite gender as well, they think they’re straight.

Look, I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think that’s what they mean.

[lesbianshate2020]

That doesn’t change that there were the same amount of gay people back then as there is now. Not knowing doesn’t make you straight. You not knowing if your neighbour is gay doesn’t make them straight. Our generation is “as gay” as it was back back then.

[user8173735141426748481]

But literally how can you know that if they identify as straight or cis.

[lesbianshate2020]

So you’re saying there ARE more gay people now? Somehow?

[user8173735141426748481]

I’m saying, there are more people who are out now, and if someone who isn’t out identifies as straight or cis, you can’t say that they’re lgbtq+, since they say they aren’t. That means, ON PAPER, there are more lgbtq+ people now.

That’s all I’m saying.

[lesbianshate2020]

Doesn’t change the fact that gay people still existed, dude. They existed but either didn’t know what it was or didn’t come out. There are not more gay people now than there were fifty years ago, and if you think that’s not true then I’ll ask you this - why are there suddenly more people being born as same sex attracted? What caused this to happen? If acceptance is the only reason why there are apparently more gay people, then you’re saying it’s a choice, proving my point that a lot of people are identifying this way for attention.

[user8173735141426748481]

But we are the gayest generation, because you don’t know the lgbtq+ people that are in the closet. You can’t say they’re lgbtq+ if they say they aren’t. Like sure, there may be the same amount, but if they someone DOESNT KNOW that they’re bi, you can’t count them as lgbtq+ if they say that they are straight.

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[izzthelizz]

where's the source for that now

you can't just assume somebody's not lgbtq because they're not dating the opposite sex, if that is what you're talking about

peoples sexualities vary and can't be categorised like that

and lastly why are you even mad that there are more openly gay people than in the past, you act like it's a bad thing

[amindofbriars]

@izzthelizz​ bless you for your hard work, totally agree with you.

*rolls up the sleeves of my cardigan* people assuming that 50% of the population can’t be “gay” a term that refers to all LGBT+ people in common culture (not just homosexual individuals), are wrong. Many cultures which didn’t actively suppress homosexual desires as well as heterosexual desires in people found many would court both. Many studies done specifically to test people’s reactions to questions about sexuality when distanced from social pressures suggest underlying bisexual tendencies in supposedly “straight” people. As society becomes more accepting, you will likely find more people identifying as bisexual/transgender in particular. The greater representation and openness of LGBT+ will likely be a factor in this.

This does not mean we’re turning people. It does mean we’re more accepting. It also means that by being more accepting we will be “the gayest generation”. And yeah, people who are bi can date who they like. A lesbian not currently dating a girl is still a lesbian. A bi person dating the opposite sex is still bi. Maybe if they grew up with a society less oppressive of their same sex attractions and an LGBT+ community that didn’t try to call them fakers, they’d feel more comfortable acting on those.

[user8173735141426748481]

YES.

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[izzthelizz]

where's the source for that now

you can't just assume somebody's not lgbtq because they're not dating the opposite sex, if that is what you're talking about

peoples sexualities vary and can't be categorised like that

and lastly why are you even mad that there are more openly gay people than in the past, you act like it's a bad thing

[lesbianshate2020]

Source for what? What are you talking about? You’re going off on a tangent about something I’m not even talking about. I’m going to block you now because it’s obvious you’re just trying to start an argument. You’re not reading anything I’m saying and you’re deliberately ignoring all of my points. I don’t have the energy to go round in circles with trolls

[user8173735141426748481]

I get that you think there are more people that are faking being a part of the lgbtq+ than it used to be, and honestly it is. But a lot of the people aren’t faking it, they just feel like they’re more accepted than they used to be.

[lesbianshate2020]

And they’re not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about people faking it. I’m saying there are tons of people faking same sex attraction for attention and that’s why we shouldn’t cal anything the “gayest generation” because it encourages these people. Why are you bringing up people coming out? That’s not what I’m talking about. I feel like I’m just repeating things here.

[user8173735141426748481]

But that’s what the post says. We are the gayest generation because way more lgbtq+ gen z people are out than lgbtq+ boomers or millennials.

[lesbianshate2020]

Why does it matter if gay people are out or not? They’re still gay. That doesn’t mean there are more gay people now than fifty years ago. The post is making it sound like that’s the case, and it’s not. That’s my whole issue with it. And people are using that to claim that there are more gay people when in fact there are more fakers.

An easier solution to this would be to call us the most accepting generation? Because there are more accepting people now. Not more gay people.

[user8173735141426748481]

1. It actually kind of matters. If someone isn’t out, you don’t know if they’re lgbtq+ or not.

2. Nowadays people know more about the lgbtq+ community and it is easier to identify yourself as that when you know what it is. A lot of older generations haven’t had the same amount of information about it, and therefore they may not have known that for example being attracted to several genders is a thing, and then because they are attracted to the opposite gender as well, they think they’re straight.

Look, I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think that’s what they mean.

[lesbianshate2020]

That doesn’t change that there were the same amount of gay people back then as there is now. Not knowing doesn’t make you straight. You not knowing if your neighbour is gay doesn’t make them straight. Our generation is “as gay” as it was back back then.

[user8173735141426748481]

But literally how can you know that if they identify as straight or cis.

[lesbianshate2020]

So you’re saying there ARE more gay people now? Somehow?

[user8173735141426748481]

I’m saying, there are more people who are out now, and if someone who isn’t out identifies as straight or cis, you can’t say that they’re lgbtq+, since they say they aren’t. That means, ON PAPER, there are more lgbtq+ people now.

That’s all I’m saying.

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[izzthelizz]

where's the source for that now

you can't just assume somebody's not lgbtq because they're not dating the opposite sex, if that is what you're talking about

peoples sexualities vary and can't be categorised like that

and lastly why are you even mad that there are more openly gay people than in the past, you act like it's a bad thing

[lesbianshate2020]

Source for what? What are you talking about? You’re going off on a tangent about something I’m not even talking about. I’m going to block you now because it’s obvious you’re just trying to start an argument. You’re not reading anything I’m saying and you’re deliberately ignoring all of my points. I don’t have the energy to go round in circles with trolls

[user8173735141426748481]

I get that you think there are more people that are faking being a part of the lgbtq+ than it used to be, and honestly it is. But a lot of the people aren’t faking it, they just feel like they’re more accepted than they used to be.

[lesbianshate2020]

And they’re not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about people faking it. I’m saying there are tons of people faking same sex attraction for attention and that’s why we shouldn’t cal anything the “gayest generation” because it encourages these people. Why are you bringing up people coming out? That’s not what I’m talking about. I feel like I’m just repeating things here.

[user8173735141426748481]

But that’s what the post says. We are the gayest generation because way more lgbtq+ gen z people are out than lgbtq+ boomers or millennials.

[lesbianshate2020]

Why does it matter if gay people are out or not? They’re still gay. That doesn’t mean there are more gay people now than fifty years ago. The post is making it sound like that’s the case, and it’s not. That’s my whole issue with it. And people are using that to claim that there are more gay people when in fact there are more fakers.

An easier solution to this would be to call us the most accepting generation? Because there are more accepting people now. Not more gay people.

[user8173735141426748481]

1. It actually kind of matters. If someone isn’t out, you don’t know if they’re lgbtq+ or not.

2. Nowadays people know more about the lgbtq+ community and it is easier to identify yourself as that when you know what it is. A lot of older generations haven’t had the same amount of information about it, and therefore they may not have known that for example being attracted to several genders is a thing, and then because they are attracted to the opposite gender as well, they think they’re straight.

Look, I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think that’s what they mean.

[lesbianshate2020]

That doesn’t change that there were the same amount of gay people back then as there is now. Not knowing doesn’t make you straight. You not knowing if your neighbour is gay doesn’t make them straight. Our generation is “as gay” as it was back back then.

[user8173735141426748481]

But literally how can you know that if they identify as straight or cis.

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[izzthelizz]

where's the source for that now

you can't just assume somebody's not lgbtq because they're not dating the opposite sex, if that is what you're talking about

peoples sexualities vary and can't be categorised like that

and lastly why are you even mad that there are more openly gay people than in the past, you act like it's a bad thing

[lesbianshate2020]

Source for what? What are you talking about? You’re going off on a tangent about something I’m not even talking about. I’m going to block you now because it’s obvious you’re just trying to start an argument. You’re not reading anything I’m saying and you’re deliberately ignoring all of my points. I don’t have the energy to go round in circles with trolls

[user8173735141426748481]

I get that you think there are more people that are faking being a part of the lgbtq+ than it used to be, and honestly it is. But a lot of the people aren’t faking it, they just feel like they’re more accepted than they used to be.

[lesbianshate2020]

And they’re not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about people faking it. I’m saying there are tons of people faking same sex attraction for attention and that’s why we shouldn’t cal anything the “gayest generation” because it encourages these people. Why are you bringing up people coming out? That’s not what I’m talking about. I feel like I’m just repeating things here.

[user8173735141426748481]

But that’s what the post says. We are the gayest generation because way more lgbtq+ gen z people are out than lgbtq+ boomers or millennials.

[lesbianshate2020]

Why does it matter if gay people are out or not? They’re still gay. That doesn’t mean there are more gay people now than fifty years ago. The post is making it sound like that’s the case, and it’s not. That’s my whole issue with it. And people are using that to claim that there are more gay people when in fact there are more fakers.

An easier solution to this would be to call us the most accepting generation? Because there are more accepting people now. Not more gay people.

[user8173735141426748481]

1. It actually kind of matters. If someone isn’t out, you don’t know if they’re lgbtq+ or not.

2. Nowadays people know more about the lgbtq+ community and it is easier to identify yourself as that when you know what it is. A lot of older generations haven’t had the same amount of information about it, and therefore they may not have known that for example being attracted to several genders is a thing, and then because they are attracted to the opposite gender as well, they think they’re straight.

Look, I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think that’s what they mean.

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[izzthelizz]

where's the source for that now

you can't just assume somebody's not lgbtq because they're not dating the opposite sex, if that is what you're talking about

peoples sexualities vary and can't be categorised like that

and lastly why are you even mad that there are more openly gay people than in the past, you act like it's a bad thing

[lesbianshate2020]

Source for what? What are you talking about? You’re going off on a tangent about something I’m not even talking about. I’m going to block you now because it’s obvious you’re just trying to start an argument. You’re not reading anything I’m saying and you’re deliberately ignoring all of my points. I don’t have the energy to go round in circles with trolls

[user8173735141426748481]

I get that you think there are more people that are faking being a part of the lgbtq+ than it used to be, and honestly it is. But a lot of the people aren’t faking it, they just feel like they’re more accepted than they used to be.

[lesbianshate2020]

And they’re not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about people faking it. I’m saying there are tons of people faking same sex attraction for attention and that’s why we shouldn’t cal anything the “gayest generation” because it encourages these people. Why are you bringing up people coming out? That’s not what I’m talking about. I feel like I’m just repeating things here.

[user8173735141426748481]

But that’s what the post says. We are the gayest generation because way more lgbtq+ gen z people are out than lgbtq+ boomers or millennials.

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[izzthelizz]

where's the source for that now

you can't just assume somebody's not lgbtq because they're not dating the opposite sex, if that is what you're talking about

peoples sexualities vary and can't be categorised like that

and lastly why are you even mad that there are more openly gay people than in the past, you act like it's a bad thing

[lesbianshate2020]

Source for what? What are you talking about? You’re going off on a tangent about something I’m not even talking about. I’m going to block you now because it’s obvious you’re just trying to start an argument. You’re not reading anything I’m saying and you’re deliberately ignoring all of my points. I don’t have the energy to go round in circles with trolls

[user8173735141426748481]

I get that you think there are more people that are faking being a part of the lgbtq+ than it used to be, and honestly it is. But a lot of the people aren’t faking it, they just feel like they’re more accepted than they used to be.

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[lesbianshate2020]

It happens a lot more than you would think. A LOT of girls in my old school identified as bi, and now in uni they’re back to straight. They treat the gay community like it’s a phase, a fun thing to try out and experiment with, and when they’re done with all the attention they just take the costume off. It’s a side effect of straight people seeing how hyped up being gay is - I just want to be seen as normal and ordinary, but straight people are jealous of us and won’t stop taking advantage of the attention put onto us.

[user8173735141426748481]

A lot of people actually go through a phase. I went through a bi phase but then later realized I’m gay, and a lot of people do the same. There is obviously some people that do take advantage of the attention like you said, but a lot of people are confused about their sexuality and it should be okay for them to experiment. I’m not saying that there aren’t people who totally fake it, but a lot of people are actually just curious or confused and that is okay.

[lesbianshate2020]

I’m talking about half of my school claiming they’re gay and taking advantage of our community while continuing to not actually experiment at all and continuing to date the opposite sex, then as soon as it stops being convenient for them, they drop the gay act.

[user8173735141426748481]

Look, obviously that’s not good, but that doesn’t actually happen tHaT often. Like, almost no one in my school is out yet, so it’s good that it is getting more normal and accepted to be lgbtq+.

[lesbianshate2020]

This is one of the comments on your post. You’re saying there’s nothing wrong with this? Nothing at least a little fishy here?

[user8173735141426748481]

I’ve actually said, multiple times, that yes there is something wrong with that, but it doesn’t happen that often.

[lesbianshate2020]

In your opinion. From my view, where I live, “gay” people are fuckin everywhere to the point where easily half of any given youth event or class I attend identifies as something other than straight. And that is impossible in reality.

[user8173735141426748481]

Okay, 1. Maybe where you live, but I’ve never seen that many unless it is an lgbtq+ event, and 2. It’s not impossible

[isappho-deactivated20240418]

[the comment reads:  On my mom’s side, 50% of my cousins are lgbtqa2s+ and three of the remainder are younger than 8, so can’t tell yet, if their older, gayer siblings shall make them gay ]

sexuality being a trend is not good, but you also cannot turn someone gay either, another point raised by @izzthelizz​. op is also not responsible for the comments ppl leave on the post.

secondly, in previous generations, there were less mainstream labels that ppl used to describe their gender and attraction. now that more labels are being coined and shared, ofc the number of queer and lgbt+ ppl are increasing because more ppl are realising that they aren’t straight or aren’t cis. this is a good thing, because ppl become more able to understand themselves. it is a good thing that they feel safe to come out. that means a safer environment is being created for queer and lgbt+ people

[user8173735141426748481]

Yes

[user8173735141426748481]

[lesbianshate2020]

Please don’t call us the gayest generation. Being gay isn’t a choice and you’re making it sound like we’re a trend. You don’t have to be gay to be “woke” and I’m tired of people thinking it’s woke to be gay. We’re just people attracted to the same sex and not the opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And for those in the notes who say that half your cousins or people you know your age are lgbtwhatever, that’s nothing to be proud of. You’re admitting that a large amount of these people are using our sexuality to gain attention and take up our spaces and resources.

[user8173735141426748481]

I think what they mean is that in our generation it is more accepted to be a part of the lgbtq+ community, and therefore people are more open about it than they were before.

[lesbianshate2020]

Trust me that’s not what they mean, in recent years I have seen more of an increase in the amount of people my age identifying as something other than straight while still exclusively dating the opposite sex, it’s nowhere near proportional as to the amount of actual gay and bi people in the population - half of the population is not gay. It’s not possible.

[user8173735141426748481]

Of course there are some people who say they’re bi when they’re really not, because they think it is popular, but that is not the majority at all.

[izzthelizz]

being the "gayest generation" literally just means that there are more openly gay people and less that fly under the radar, people who are faking it are fairly uncommon and also quickly realize that it's not very fun to be gay sometimes

[lesbianshate2020]

So much so that apparently 50% of someone’s cousins can be gay, and that the gay cousins can turn the younger ones gay?

[izzthelizz]

what is that even supposed to mean?

yes, people can be gay the percentage is pure chance

no, you can't turn people gay, because it's not a choice

idk why this is relevant, because it was literally not my point

[lesbianshate2020]

Apparently more people being openly gay means that half the population can be gay. Because that’s what people are claiming. That’s what I’m talking about. If that’s not what you’re talking about, why are you contributing to this conversation?

[user8173735141426748481]

Half of the population isn’t gay. Maybe half of a friend group or something, but that doesn’t mean every friend group is like that.