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[artificeutility]

@masterabating and @misfitstogether, hypotheically if i was a person on your planet what would happen to me and what information do you need to determine this? i'm willing to provide it for the sake of science.

[artificeutility]

i'm an eight sweep old goldblood psion though you have no frame of reference for that.

[misfitstogether]

Wait, are you asking what would happen if you were generated as a numeral or if you showed up as you are? Just for clarity's sake.

...I suppose it would also depend on your stated intentions? Would you be showing up with the intent of becoming a civilian? I'm sure the subords would be happy to accomodate you if you expressed your needs.

[artificeutility]

we can hypothesize what would happen in both scenarios but i was asking what would happen if i showed up as i am so let's start with that.

my intention is to become a civilian in this scenario.

[masterabating]

depends on who finds you and how many people hear about it tbh. the government can't disappear you if everyone knows you're here, but also if you tell the world aliens are real and one just showed up they are going to lose their fucking minds

[artificeutility]

i feel as if everyone knows i'm there. i'm not easy to miss and prone to emotional outburts that cause my psionics to act out.

[misfitstogether]

I submitted a query. Consensus is that first contact is too vital to behave rashly in, and so every step would be taken carefully so as not to start unexpected causality chains. An alien visitor would be moved to a secure location to ensure their wellbeing, and interactions would prioritize establishing a means of communication and keeping a positive relationship, if the alien is amenable and nonhostile. Information on their intentions and origins is best found out through a willing exchange.

So it would probably take a few months to establish a basis of communications, and then some unknown amount of time to get the populace acclimated to the idea, but if you expressed an interest you could probably integrate into society in two to five years.

[causticbrews]

oh yeah, moved to a secure location to "ensure their wellbeing", that doesnt sound sinister at all. i know i love to be amenable and nonhostile when secured in locations!

[artificeutility]

causticBrews has a point.

[misfitstogether]

I don't... understand the issue.

[artificeutility]

what's your definition of a secure location and what would they do to me there? it sounds scary, for lack of another way to word it.

[misfitstogether]

Oh. It... does make sense that it would be frightening, given your background. I'll try to be more clear about our lack of harmful intent in the future.

A secure location is a place where we can ensure nothing will harm you and all your needs will be comfortably met. Ideally we will help you adjust to life on Iris and ensure you can operate with a high standard of living. The consensus check indicated that a high degree of nonintervention would be optimal, as it would be incredibly risky to push you to give us information at a faster rate than you want to, so most likely you would just go about your day within the facility and only ask or answer questions when you initiate or agree. Otherwise, we'd just be there to support and respond to you.

I don't really know what you'd want in a personal facility, but they'll do their best to accomodate and construct things that you say you need or make you comfortable. (I'd say we would do our best to make you things that are familiar, but given the circumstances I.... don't want to presume that as a good thing.) It's likely you'll mostly be interacting with subords, but if that turns out to be upsetting to you or you'd rather interact with other social individuals, they'd bring a few numerals in.

...Does that answer your question? I can elaborate if you're still not sure.

[vicariousperennial]

Hello, Are you implying that your society is open to accepting refugees

[misfitstogether]

Given the circumstances, absolutely?? Your situation is completely unacceptable. Direct intervention would probably be a matter of extremely heated debate, but the only possible objection to taking refugees I can think of is that we can't afford to reveal our location. If that can be avoided, we would want to get as many people to safety as possible.

I don't think our planet is large enough to support a significant fraction of you, but... I don't know, maybe we could find somewhere safe and help people get there? We'd do everything we can to help make leaving possible. I just... don't know what we can do.

[vicariousperennial]

It is far too difficult to get people off Alternia unnoticed. However there may be opportunities for those in other areas

[masterabating]

y'all have spaceships, right? you make 'em, you know how to use 'em?

[vicariousperennial]

Oh yes. I am certain some schematics could be "Legally" Obtained for you

[artificeutility]

@masterabating and @misfitstogether, hypotheically if i was a person on your planet what would happen to me and what information do you need to determine this? i'm willing to provide it for the sake of science.

[artificeutility]

i'm an eight sweep old goldblood psion though you have no frame of reference for that.

[misfitstogether]

Wait, are you asking what would happen if you were generated as a numeral or if you showed up as you are? Just for clarity's sake.

...I suppose it would also depend on your stated intentions? Would you be showing up with the intent of becoming a civilian? I'm sure the subords would be happy to accomodate you if you expressed your needs.

[artificeutility]

we can hypothesize what would happen in both scenarios but i was asking what would happen if i showed up as i am so let's start with that.

my intention is to become a civilian in this scenario.

[masterabating]

depends on who finds you and how many people hear about it tbh. the government can't disappear you if everyone knows you're here, but also if you tell the world aliens are real and one just showed up they are going to lose their fucking minds

[artificeutility]

i feel as if everyone knows i'm there. i'm not easy to miss and prone to emotional outburts that cause my psionics to act out.

[misfitstogether]

I submitted a query. Consensus is that first contact is too vital to behave rashly in, and so every step would be taken carefully so as not to start unexpected causality chains. An alien visitor would be moved to a secure location to ensure their wellbeing, and interactions would prioritize establishing a means of communication and keeping a positive relationship, if the alien is amenable and nonhostile. Information on their intentions and origins is best found out through a willing exchange.

So it would probably take a few months to establish a basis of communications, and then some unknown amount of time to get the populace acclimated to the idea, but if you expressed an interest you could probably integrate into society in two to five years.

[causticbrews]

oh yeah, moved to a secure location to "ensure their wellbeing", that doesnt sound sinister at all. i know i love to be amenable and nonhostile when secured in locations!

[artificeutility]

causticBrews has a point.

[misfitstogether]

I don't... understand the issue.

[artificeutility]

what's your definition of a secure location and what would they do to me there? it sounds scary, for lack of another way to word it.

[misfitstogether]

Oh. It... does make sense that it would be frightening, given your background. I'll try to be more clear about our lack of harmful intent in the future.

A secure location is a place where we can ensure nothing will harm you and all your needs will be comfortably met. Ideally we will help you adjust to life on Iris and ensure you can operate with a high standard of living. The consensus check indicated that a high degree of nonintervention would be optimal, as it would be incredibly risky to push you to give us information at a faster rate than you want to, so most likely you would just go about your day within the facility and only ask or answer questions when you initiate or agree. Otherwise, we'd just be there to support and respond to you.

I don't really know what you'd want in a personal facility, but they'll do their best to accomodate and construct things that you say you need or make you comfortable. (I'd say we would do our best to make you things that are familiar, but given the circumstances I.... don't want to presume that as a good thing.) It's likely you'll mostly be interacting with subords, but if that turns out to be upsetting to you or you'd rather interact with other social individuals, they'd bring a few numerals in.

...Does that answer your question? I can elaborate if you're still not sure.

[vicariousperennial]

Hello, Are you implying that your society is open to accepting refugees

[misfitstogether]

Given the circumstances, absolutely?? Your situation is completely unacceptable. Direct intervention would probably be a matter of extremely heated debate, but the only possible objection to taking refugees I can think of is that we can't afford to reveal our location. If that can be avoided, we would want to get as many people to safety as possible.

I don't think our planet is large enough to support a significant fraction of you, but... I don't know, maybe we could find somewhere safe and help people get there? We'd do everything we can to help make leaving possible. I just... don't know what we can do.

[vicariousperennial]

It is far too difficult to get people off Alternia unnoticed. However there may be opportunities for those in other areas

[artificeutility]

@masterabating and @misfitstogether, hypotheically if i was a person on your planet what would happen to me and what information do you need to determine this? i'm willing to provide it for the sake of science.

[artificeutility]

i'm an eight sweep old goldblood psion though you have no frame of reference for that.

[misfitstogether]

Wait, are you asking what would happen if you were generated as a numeral or if you showed up as you are? Just for clarity's sake.

...I suppose it would also depend on your stated intentions? Would you be showing up with the intent of becoming a civilian? I'm sure the subords would be happy to accomodate you if you expressed your needs.

[artificeutility]

we can hypothesize what would happen in both scenarios but i was asking what would happen if i showed up as i am so let's start with that.

my intention is to become a civilian in this scenario.

[masterabating]

depends on who finds you and how many people hear about it tbh. the government can't disappear you if everyone knows you're here, but also if you tell the world aliens are real and one just showed up they are going to lose their fucking minds

[artificeutility]

i feel as if everyone knows i'm there. i'm not easy to miss and prone to emotional outburts that cause my psionics to act out.

[misfitstogether]

I submitted a query. Consensus is that first contact is too vital to behave rashly in, and so every step would be taken carefully so as not to start unexpected causality chains. An alien visitor would be moved to a secure location to ensure their wellbeing, and interactions would prioritize establishing a means of communication and keeping a positive relationship, if the alien is amenable and nonhostile. Information on their intentions and origins is best found out through a willing exchange.

So it would probably take a few months to establish a basis of communications, and then some unknown amount of time to get the populace acclimated to the idea, but if you expressed an interest you could probably integrate into society in two to five years.

[causticbrews]

oh yeah, moved to a secure location to "ensure their wellbeing", that doesnt sound sinister at all. i know i love to be amenable and nonhostile when secured in locations!

[artificeutility]

causticBrews has a point.

[misfitstogether]

I don't... understand the issue.

[artificeutility]

what's your definition of a secure location and what would they do to me there? it sounds scary, for lack of another way to word it.

[misfitstogether]

Oh. It... does make sense that it would be frightening, given your background. I'll try to be more clear about our lack of harmful intent in the future.

A secure location is a place where we can ensure nothing will harm you and all your needs will be comfortably met. Ideally we will help you adjust to life on Iris and ensure you can operate with a high standard of living. The consensus check indicated that a high degree of nonintervention would be optimal, as it would be incredibly risky to push you to give us information at a faster rate than you want to, so most likely you would just go about your day within the facility and only ask or answer questions when you initiate or agree. Otherwise, we'd just be there to support and respond to you.

I don't really know what you'd want in a personal facility, but they'll do their best to accomodate and construct things that you say you need or make you comfortable. (I'd say we would do our best to make you things that are familiar, but given the circumstances I.... don't want to presume that as a good thing.) It's likely you'll mostly be interacting with subords, but if that turns out to be upsetting to you or you'd rather interact with other social individuals, they'd bring a few numerals in.

...Does that answer your question? I can elaborate if you're still not sure.

[vicariousperennial]

Hello, Are you implying that your society is open to accepting refugees

[misfitstogether]

I don't even know what information is relevant here. I don't know what to ask.

...This probably needs to get reported.

[causticbrews]

HAHAHA, what is reporting shit even gonna do? "Hello??? Some fuckin guys said some weird shit to me on the internet? Help????" give me a break

[misfitstogether]

It means we can actually establish official goddamn communications?? Alert officials that you exist so they can enact whatever the plan is?? I don't know anything about how to do this in a way that won't blow up in everyone's faces! I definitely know the rest of us don't! Someone who has actually put some thought into this needs to be aware that it's happening, because I KNOW it's going to go catastrophically fucking wrong!

[causticbrews]

HAH, wanting to establish official communications with the alternian empire, now thats fucking rich. i know a guy thatd just LOOOVE to give you the spiel on why thats a pisspoor idea, but i'll save you the headache. boils down to this: its a pisspoor idea. dont even try it

[misfitstogether]

We are past the point of sparing anyone a headache. I would like the spiel.

...Why not?

[causticbrews]

ooooh now you've done it. now you've fuckin done it. im getting the expert he is going to have the time of his fucking life, just hang the fuck on for just one second.

----

Fucking. Hello??? Uhh. Wraath just messaged me a fucking barrage of bullshit and I'm trying to parse what he's saying but, he's insisting you're some kind of new, non-troll alien? Non-wyvern too, if you haven't previously made contact with the Alternian Empire? Right, I'm going to. Take that at face value for now, I don't care about weird internet trolling bullshit.

I'm Thero, by the way.

What Wraath means by a spiel is just a summary of the observable historical effect that the Alternian Empire has on its conquered planets. Focusing just on the wyvern home planet of Prosperity Bay, contact with the Empire has had deep and profoundly catastrophic effects on wyvern culture and way of life. For instance, all historical evidence (what little of it survives) points to wyverns not actually being compatible with the troll romance system known as "quadrants". Despite this, cultural pressure has warped wyvern relationship and familial structures to falsely mimic that of trolls. Familial structures were further strained by the labor demands of the Empire, which forced parents to frequently leave their children alone for long periods of time. Labor is a major extracted resource, but it is by far not the only one. Prosperity Bay's sister planet, which functions essentially as a troll nursery, is not as resource-rich as Prosperity Bay is, so frequently agricultural resources are extracted and shipped off-world, at great cost to the wyverns that actually live on-planet.

And this is all with the context that this is a satellite colony; it is not so relevant to the Empire's interests that it has drawn any kind of significant attention. It would be easy to imagine a version of events where some on-planet resource was determined to be so valuable that life on the planet was just eradicated outright.

Ahem. Feel free to ask me to expand on any of that. I'm leaving a lot out for brevity's sake.

[misfitstogether]

I. Have the impression that I have received the relevant information, but am having trouble parsing it.

What did they do? Why didn't anyone stop it?

[causticbrews]

There was no one to stop them. As far as galactic empires go, the Alternian Empire is it. I am not aware of any empire that matches it for any metric that matters: military might, area covered, planets conquered; any species that might have tried anything similar at any point is lost to history.

They just take things by force. They established their nursery on our sister planet to make further expansion (perfunctory as it may be, this far away from the core of the empire) possible. They force wyverns to work under threat of violence, and resources are taken away under the same threat of violence. Their way of interacting with each other was imposed as "normal", and over an incredibly long time, wyverns accepted it as normal.

There has been resistance to this process, to be sure. The kind of resistance that protects historical records and keeps ideas of what things COULD be like alive. But, at least here, at least as far as I know, no one has ever been able to push them back.

[misfitstogether]

that's AWFUL???????????

i can't believe they're doing this to people! there has to be someone fighting back, right? or trying to help each other? people have to know this is wrong! someone would fight back. tons of people would try to! even if no one so far has been strong enough to stop it, someone would at least try!

[vicariousperennial]

There are people fighting back, and giving each other aid where we can, at least on Alternia. I had not heard of these Wyverns but everything this kind soul is saying matches with what I do know. I would like to apologize on behalf of our empire - They do not speak for all of us. I am wary to say more

[misfitstogether]

okay, good!! i hope that's going okay!!

is there anything we can do? like we can't just let it be like this! if you guys need help and we can help you then we have to do something!

[vicariousperennial]

Hello Nickle, You are always welcome to join the cause

[artificeutility]

@vicariousperennial are you trying to get culled?

[vicariousperennial]

Hello, No. But I am on a Secure Network and They cannot find me. Thank you

[misfitstogether]

I don't even know what information is relevant here. I don't know what to ask.

...This probably needs to get reported.

[causticbrews]

HAHAHA, what is reporting shit even gonna do? "Hello??? Some fuckin guys said some weird shit to me on the internet? Help????" give me a break

[misfitstogether]

It means we can actually establish official goddamn communications?? Alert officials that you exist so they can enact whatever the plan is?? I don't know anything about how to do this in a way that won't blow up in everyone's faces! I definitely know the rest of us don't! Someone who has actually put some thought into this needs to be aware that it's happening, because I KNOW it's going to go catastrophically fucking wrong!

[causticbrews]

HAH, wanting to establish official communications with the alternian empire, now thats fucking rich. i know a guy thatd just LOOOVE to give you the spiel on why thats a pisspoor idea, but i'll save you the headache. boils down to this: its a pisspoor idea. dont even try it

[misfitstogether]

We are past the point of sparing anyone a headache. I would like the spiel.

...Why not?

[causticbrews]

ooooh now you've done it. now you've fuckin done it. im getting the expert he is going to have the time of his fucking life, just hang the fuck on for just one second.

----

Fucking. Hello??? Uhh. Wraath just messaged me a fucking barrage of bullshit and I'm trying to parse what he's saying but, he's insisting you're some kind of new, non-troll alien? Non-wyvern too, if you haven't previously made contact with the Alternian Empire? Right, I'm going to. Take that at face value for now, I don't care about weird internet trolling bullshit.

I'm Thero, by the way.

What Wraath means by a spiel is just a summary of the observable historical effect that the Alternian Empire has on its conquered planets. Focusing just on the wyvern home planet of Prosperity Bay, contact with the Empire has had deep and profoundly catastrophic effects on wyvern culture and way of life. For instance, all historical evidence (what little of it survives) points to wyverns not actually being compatible with the troll romance system known as "quadrants". Despite this, cultural pressure has warped wyvern relationship and familial structures to falsely mimic that of trolls. Familial structures were further strained by the labor demands of the Empire, which forced parents to frequently leave their children alone for long periods of time. Labor is a major extracted resource, but it is by far not the only one. Prosperity Bay's sister planet, which functions essentially as a troll nursery, is not as resource-rich as Prosperity Bay is, so frequently agricultural resources are extracted and shipped off-world, at great cost to the wyverns that actually live on-planet.

And this is all with the context that this is a satellite colony; it is not so relevant to the Empire's interests that it has drawn any kind of significant attention. It would be easy to imagine a version of events where some on-planet resource was determined to be so valuable that life on the planet was just eradicated outright.

Ahem. Feel free to ask me to expand on any of that. I'm leaving a lot out for brevity's sake.

[misfitstogether]

I. Have the impression that I have received the relevant information, but am having trouble parsing it.

What did they do? Why didn't anyone stop it?

[causticbrews]

There was no one to stop them. As far as galactic empires go, the Alternian Empire is it. I am not aware of any empire that matches it for any metric that matters: military might, area covered, planets conquered; any species that might have tried anything similar at any point is lost to history.

They just take things by force. They established their nursery on our sister planet to make further expansion (perfunctory as it may be, this far away from the core of the empire) possible. They force wyverns to work under threat of violence, and resources are taken away under the same threat of violence. Their way of interacting with each other was imposed as "normal", and over an incredibly long time, wyverns accepted it as normal.

There has been resistance to this process, to be sure. The kind of resistance that protects historical records and keeps ideas of what things COULD be like alive. But, at least here, at least as far as I know, no one has ever been able to push them back.

[misfitstogether]

that's AWFUL???????????

i can't believe they're doing this to people! there has to be someone fighting back, right? or trying to help each other? people have to know this is wrong! someone would fight back. tons of people would try to! even if no one so far has been strong enough to stop it, someone would at least try!

[vicariousperennial]

There are people fighting back, and giving each other aid where we can, at least on Alternia. I had not heard of these Wyverns but everything this kind soul is saying matches with what I do know. I would like to apologize on behalf of our empire - They do not speak for all of us. I am wary to say more

[misfitstogether]

I don't even know what information is relevant here. I don't know what to ask.

...This probably needs to get reported.

[causticbrews]

HAHAHA, what is reporting shit even gonna do? "Hello??? Some fuckin guys said some weird shit to me on the internet? Help????" give me a break

[misfitstogether]

It means we can actually establish official goddamn communications?? Alert officials that you exist so they can enact whatever the plan is?? I don't know anything about how to do this in a way that won't blow up in everyone's faces! I definitely know the rest of us don't! Someone who has actually put some thought into this needs to be aware that it's happening, because I KNOW it's going to go catastrophically fucking wrong!

[vicariousperennial]

Alerting your society of our Empire and attempting to establish communication would be a mistake, though I am wary to share more details

[misfitstogether]

WHAT THE FUCK? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? WHAT IS FUCKING HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? IS THIS REAL? IS THIS TYPICAL FOR HAVING A BLOG?? WHAT DOES THIS EVEN FUCKING MEAN???

[adamantinerunagate]

nah, blogs are fucking weird but not usually this batshit

[misfitstogether]

GREAT! SO IT'S JUST A SPECIAL EDGE CASE WHERE WE ENCOUNTER ADVANCED LIFE THAT WASN'T SEEDED! AND SOMEHOW RAN INTO IT ON OUR PLANETARY NETWORK! BECAUSE THAT MAKES SENSE! I AM THRILLED TO HEAR THAT THIS IS NOT THE AVERAGE EXPERIENCE, STRANGER WHO IS PRESUMABLY ALSO CLAIMING TO BE AN ALIEN!

END SARCASM!

[vicariousperennial]

Please do not yell at Nickle

[misfitstogether]

Alright.

I have spent my allotted time laying on the floor. What is actually happening? Why are people claiming to be aliens? Is that actually what is happening? This entire mess is clearly rife with miscommunication. It's time to sort it out.

[artificeutility]

i don't know what's happening but people are claiming to be aliens because they are. you are to me and i am to you if i am to assume this isn't an elaborate trolling attempt.

[misfitstogether]

Why are we assuming people are aliens? How do you know? Do you have proof?

[artificeutility]

the proof is my existence. i don't know about yours. i can post photographic evidence if you want.

[misfitstogether]

Your existence isn't really proof of wild life existing. Plenty of things exist without indicating that. Even if you're correct, my existence wouldn't indicate that I'm an alien from your perspective either.

Photographic evidence might not conclusively determine the matter, but it probably won't hurt.

[artificeutility]

listen, i don't know what you want from me. this is all i have.

[@artificeUtility posted an image!]

[Image Description: A goldblood troll with red and orange eyes, two sets of horns and two sets of ears. Their roots indicated they've dyed their hair; black growing out into yellow. They're wearing a collared shirt but that's all that can be seen of their clothes because the image cuts off at their bust.]

[masterabating]

what the fuck

[vicariousperennial]

? This is a regular goldblood. Also hello I pressed the follow button on the people i saw from Nickle

[misfitstogether]

Wow! I have immediately come to regret agreeing to join a blog! This is a shocking turn of events that no one could possibly see coming, end sarcasm!

[misfitstogether]

c'mon, it's not that bad! sirius is actually really nice!

[misfitstogether]

This is NEITHER convincing NOR reassuring! I'm not even sure that's relevant! It definitely isn't a good explanation!

[masterabating]

guys shhhhhh the aliens are deciding if they want to fuck

[artificeutility]

i'm sorry... did i do something wrong?

[misfitstogether]

nonono you're good!! you're doing great! casey just doesn't like disruptions in their routine and veto is just, you know, like this

[vicariousperennial]

? Indecent

[vicariousperennial]

This website is broken

[artificeutility]

um, sorry but i saw you in my recommended. are you trying to use gorgle? because this is chittr.

[masterabating]

DO YOU ACTUALLY JUST TALK TO PEOPLE LIKE THIS HOLY SHIT

[vicariousperennial]

Hello Wonderful People, I am trying to find pictures of flowers. My friend told me to set up a "blog" here. I was hesitant but she told me I could find pictures of nice things, like flowers. I am trying to find pictures of flowers. Thank you

[misfitstogether]

oh my gosh hi!! I can get you some flower pictures if you want? I bet I can find someone on here who posts them!

do you like flowers? I think they're really nice too! :}

[vicariousperennial]

Hello Nickle, Thank you. Your soul walks upon a kind path. It would be much appreciated. I do love flowers. They are simple and beautiful, but have the ability to portray such complicated messages and emotions. I will put my name in the Tags like you did Thank you

[vicariousperennial]

This website is broken

[artificeutility]

um, sorry but i saw you in my recommended. are you trying to use gorgle? because this is chittr.

[masterabating]

DO YOU ACTUALLY JUST TALK TO PEOPLE LIKE THIS HOLY SHIT

[vicariousperennial]

Hello Wonderful People, I am trying to find pictures of flowers. My friend told me to set up a "blog" here. I was hesitant but she told me I could find pictures of nice things, like flowers. I am trying to find pictures of flowers. Thank you

[vicariousperennial]

This website is broken

[vicariousperennial]

Show me flowers

[vicariousperennial]

Pictures of flowers

[vicariousperennial]

Flowers

[vicariousperennial]

What