here are some collages i made for vampire! batsis' living area in the manor. it's mostly her bedroom. all of the paintings will be mentioned in the fic, some of them more relevant than others. can you guess which?
at first i couldn't decide between something more sophisticated or leaning more towards whimsigoth. the whimsigoth fits the vampire vibe better, while still being harmonious with the wayne manor, but i'll consider making a minimalistic alternative to this.
It feels like this blog is dead 🫠😭 you haven't answered us in so long! You burned bright and quick and then were gone!
i’m gonna be honest w you anon. i had no idea about how popular the p&f! reader concept was going to be and how much attention it would bring to this blog, which i envisioned as a niche little space in the internet to post my fics once in a few eons. i had so much fun replying to all the asks and interacting with everyone, and i still have so many great asks in my inbox to reply to!! pls don’t worry, all is well but i’ve just been insanely busy w irl stuff.
atp i wanted to have the first chapters of p&f! reader and vampire! reader out, but i just haven’t found the time or the words to just sit down and write (´；ω；`) and there’s also other concepts i’ve been playing with (such as the ones i posted).
i can assure you: i can’t wait to share more content!! (also, feel free to ask me about the other fics i am working on. wife in the attic is in the works along with gotham by night and summer belongs to you, and it’s set in the same universe as safety in ignorance, my yan! gojo fic. just mind the dead dove content.).
— concepts of a p&f! batsibling x gravity falls crossover
— first chapter of p&f! batsibling (it’s going to take a while and you’ll probably get the gravity falls crossover before that, but who knows?)
— first chapter of gotham by night (vampire! batsis x platonic! yandere batfam inspired by vtm) (UPCOMING!!!)
— wife in the attic (isekaid! reader x duke! geto suguru set in the same universe as safety in ignorance) (UPCOMING!!!)
— concepts of an isekaid! reader x knight/count! nanami fic set in the same universe as safety in ignorance and wife in the attic with an arranged??? marriage??? theme??
— concepts of a fic called snowed in (naoya x foreign! reader) which might not come to fruition
— concepts of a yandere! rich girl x fem! reader
— concepts of a masterlist (which has been highly requested even if i have like. one fic and a whole lot of asks)
we have so many neglected! reader fics of the batfam getting jealous of reader’s friend groups but there is a criminal lack of bat girls in specific seeing fem! reader hanging out with her girl friends like having slumber parties and getting their nails done and going shopping and having spa-days and having brunch and going to pilates together and being like oh. oh. that should be us actually.
I miss p&f reader. You basically took over the #yanderebatfam for a bit when you made that one lol.
i had no idea my silly p&f! reader post would become as big as it did. it was insane to me, too! (˶˃ᆺ˂˶) but the main purpose of this blog is to share darkfics, so i wanted to get back on track. i really got in the mood to write for vampires too, which means i've been focusing on vampire! reader. there's a geto fic in the works that took the backseat but i'll get back to it as well.
i'm afraid the more light-hearted, family-friendly nature of the p&f! reader's fic might give people the idea that this blog is family-friendly, which is not. minors dni / dead dove do not eat btw. i still very much plan on working on the fic (i already started!) because i do love this concept and all the ideas and fun that come with it a lot, but i figure i'll get something darker out of the way first.
music to get seduced by a mysterious vampire DILF at the club while your dad batman is none the wiser to. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
anyone remember vampire! batsis? well, since a lot of IRL things have happened and delayed the release of chapter 1 of the fic, i decided to throw you a bone. i have started working on a playlist, which is a work in progress just like the fic. but hang in there! in the meantime, here's something to daydream to. vampire! batsis who is still human at this point being a fish out of the water at the nightclub while being around not so great company is the overall idea behind this specific playlist, but i hope it'll hit harder in context, and that you can feel the underlying unease and horror behind the beat.
Thanks you for answering!!! I like that vamp!reader can at least act freely around Jason (minus Aflfred of course) .
So now i'm wondering when reader will turn into a vampire and if there's not blood bags around for a long period for x reason,is jason will be her first choice to bite because she can be vulnerable with him and vice-versa? And how the other will react when they know that most of time reader put a facade around them but Jason? Are they gonna maybe be jealous? I'm sure at least Damian will not tolerating that.
For the guess game,I bet that Alfred will be the first to become yandere because reader is more his daughter than Bruce's daughter. It seems he really puts a lot of effort into her education and the way she dress up ( i really really really adored the post btw,i hope there's will be more🥰 ) and for me it's seem bordeline controlling. I know he will not shying away to shot anyone who try to "corrupt" reader😅
context &. context.
ooh! those are all amazing questions!
i believe that, even if there were no blood bags around, vampire! reader still wouldn't want to drink from her family. it's a hard no for her, which means she would only do it as a last resort.
so, if she's not being held captive at the wayne manor, she would more or less be a little familiar with the kindred underworld. which means that in the abscence of blood bags, she would not even consider drinking from her family and would choose to seek out a blood doll or enthrall some unaware human so she can feed from them safely. no killing is involved, but batfam does not approve of that method even when there's willing victims involved. especially when there's willing victims involved, actually. too raunchy!
but if she is being held captive, i think jason would be simultaneously the best and worst choice precisely because they're closest compared to the rest of the batfam. she would have to be pretty desperate or close to frenzy to feed on him, though.
"And how the other will react when they know that most of time reader put a facade around them but Jason? Are they gonna maybe be jealous? I'm sure at least Damian will not tolerating that."
not going to expand on that because spoilers, but once vampire! reader starts acting... off... they will certainly go through a bunch of realizations. and you are correct, damian is not going to be happy about it.
as for who goes yandere first, we'll see (𓁹◡𓁹) alfred is a strong candidate, vampire! reader is most definetly his pride and joy. he put a lot of effort into making sure she was brought up as a perfect wayne lady. you call it control, he simply calls it care! :)
although he's not very happy about the independence vampire! reader is claiming for herself. too many bad influences outside that could impact her negatively. he doesn't quite understand why she would want to broaden her horizons when she has all she could possibly want at the wayne manor.
I really love the fact that vamp!reader put always a facade till jason is even afraid of that. Is he the only one to see she's repressing her feeling since they were closer than others? And how much is she repressed ? Is this Bree van the Kamp level? Also is she endossing the parental role with the rest of the batfam?
Ps:sorry if it's not understandable ,english is not my native language.
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your english is fine!! thank u for the ask (˶˃ ᵕ ˂˶) .ᐟ.ᐟ
jason, besides alfred, is definetly the one seeing that reader is repressing. she's insanely good at it, to the point even jason finds it scary — no, scary isn't quite the right word. jason finds it disturbing. it's something so completely opposite from himself, too, so... doll-like. artificial. fake.
vampire! reader does try to pull that shit with jason but he can see right through her — and yes, it’s because they were very close as children —, which means he's the only one she can have genuine interactions with (again, besides alfred), which means he's the only one who can actually rile her up, which means they've definetly had a complicated relationship since he's been ressurected, with some conflicts that the rest of the batfam has no idea about.
(i do have an idea for a scene where jason and vampire! reader are arguing quite loudly in the kitchen, before she's turned. then damian walks in on them, vampire! reader notices him before jason does, and immediately switches up and pretends everything's fine and starts cooing at damian. jason is flabbergasted. damian has... questions, after than incident.)
she's definetly holding a lot of her true feelings in to some bree van de kamp level. to the point she'll begin to formulate a thought that perhaps she's being treated unfairly by her family or by her father and instantly rebuke it. there's always an excuse, a reason, despite the bitterness and sometimes (gasp!) anger than is simmering beneath, unbeknownst even to her. it's internalized it's covered up. definetly about maintaining perfect image and keeping up appearances, so she's always fine when someone asks. nothing is ever wrong.
(jason thinks she's a ticking time-bomb that's going to explode eventually. he's... not wrong.)
and i'd say she has a mother hen (parentification) thing going on, but the batfam won't really let her in enough for her to actually mother hen them. in the fic she's making an effort to become more independent and break away from that, but old habits die hard. not even jason is an exception to that.
and that is kind of bruce's fault. not kind of, actually, it is bruce's fault. she absolutely has unresolved trauma from when jason died and suddenly she was put into this role of feeling obligated to care for her grief-stricken, emotionally unavailable father, so bruce is the one who vampire! reader fusses over the most to this day, even after he gets better and brings all of the other batkids and parents them. and even as she takes over his meals so he doesn't have to risk setting the kitchen on fire or tending to his wounds when alfred's not around, he doesn't even know that's the dynamic they have going on.
I saw you mention in a few comments that Talia approves of P&F! Reader and their shenanigans. How do think that happened?
I imagine her thinking that Reader isnt much at first glance, just another genius Wayne with their fair share of acompishments. But then she notices the inventions or Damian popping off about Reader and the adventures they go on and how "Father must be blind Mother. How else does he not SEE ANYTHING?"
That or Talia meets them by getting dragged into an adventure with Damian and Jon.
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to be honest, talia wasn't exactly thrilled when she heard of p&f! reader's existence. she runs a background check and finds nothing impressive, the kid is a civilian and their mother is one of bruce's old flings. but there is that petty, unpleasant feeling of knowing her son is not bruce's only blood child, not even the first born, provided p&f! reader is a little older than him.
but she doesn't seem them as a threat, either. impressive academic performance, very creative, but overall normal kid who was raised in a normal environment and poses no risk to damian. this is before p&f! reader gets comfortable and starts pulling their stunts, mind you, so she kinda pays them no mind until damian brings up the many schemes of their elusive half-sibling, which mysteriously disappear without fail and never get caught by the rest of the batfam.
and honestly? she thinks it's amusing. talia is yet another person who eventually goes on an adventure or two with her son and his half-sibling, and will not say a word to bruce (with the exception of cryptic jabs only she seems to understand, and fly over bruce's head). and no, she won't help damian bust p&f! reader at all — if he must do it, then he shall accomplish it himself.
and she ends up growing pretty fond of p&f! reader. it mostly comes from watching damian interact with them. it's awfully fun.
do you prefer writing about p&f reader or vampire reader ?
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good question!! they are drastically different concepts, and i love writing for both. ◝(ᵔᵕᵔ)◜
i guess the difference is that p&f! reader just blew up in a way i was not expecting at all and i got a lot of asks on it, which i loved answering, which means i got to develop and interact a lot more with that concept through asks than with vampire! reader, so i get really happy when i get to talk about her too. for example, we've gotten to really joke about and explore a bit of p&f! reader and damian's sibling dynamic, but we only got a little glimpse at vampire! reader and jason's.
fic-writing-wise, i would say i lean a bit more towards vampire! reader because i do love darker concepts. but, on the other hand, that means writing p&f! reader's fic is very new and exciting, also very refreshing between all the darker-themed drafts i have.
I've been thinking and I've come to the conclusion that it wouldn't make much sense for Bruce to neglect one of his children.
Think about it, in canon, most of the mistakes he made that ended up harming his family were either because he was completely buried in work, or because he was slightly manipulated, both by the narrative and by third parties.
In addition, he also cannot fully communicate with others, both because of his early trauma, the loss of his parents, and all the loneliness caused by the grief he went through growing up. Not to mention the years of self-discipline and training he went through to become Batman. From everything he's seen and experienced, and all the scars he has, I can't imagine how much that grief and and especially a sense of justice, survived.
so I don't think he would simply neglect one of his children
What I propose is; accidental negligence. Think about it, if he is busy all the time with both Batman and his other persona, Brucie Wayne, and then the justice league, investigations, meetings of Wayne Enterprise, galas, charities, other rich people, the usual rogues gallery of Gotham, etc, etc, I don't think he has much time to spend with anyone.
He is able to spend more time with his other children because they are all vigilantes, like him, and are usually just as busy as he is. Having a civilian child in the middle of this mess wouldn't do much good, especially if that child doesn't know what they do most of the time, like, y'know, vigilantlism.
Imagine everyone's absolute horror when they realize, after the p&f reader is unfortunately busted, that they paid so little attention to that child that she managed to do all these crazy things right under their noses for the whole summer. And who's to say she hadn't been doing this before this summer? How many things have they inevitably missed in her life?
What I mean is that to counter the p&f reader's luck, everyone in the batfam is unlucky enough not to be able to spend time with her. And they are aware of it.
Their guilt would be immense and the angst would be delicious.
(And it would explain how Damian hás time to spend with p&f reader, since he's a kid and his only obligations are school, socialization and being Robin, so he would technically have more time??? If that even makes sense???)
context &. context.
YOU!! YOU GET IT!!
i wholeheartedly agree!
not that "accidental" neglect is any better, it's neglect all the same and has negative consequences in so many levels. but when we're talking about Bruce Emotionally Constipated And Terrible At Communication and Could Sometimes Make Better Choices Regarding His Kids Wayne, it could absolutely happen.
i'm not one to make character analysis because i have very shallow knowledge of Batman lore, but...
like you said, all of Bruce's children participate in vigilantism. they're all extraordinary, most have horrible trauma, and have relied on him for guidance. they are all Robin, and more relatable to him, in a way. that means he's consequently more involved in their lives, more physically there engaging with them, forming an emotional bond, acting as a mentor and father figure. on top of that, like you said, he has a whole life as Bruce Wayne and Batman going on.
which brings us to neglected! Reader, more specifically mine: P&F! Reader and Vampire! Reader.
on a... financial, material level, I believe they wouldn't want for anything. Alfred is the one managing their bank account and making sure they're well-provided for and though it's fun for angst purposes, i don't think they would have a tiny little bedroom isolated from everyone in the manor, mostly because it's our favorite butler who would select which bedroom Bruce's child would be staying at in this gigantic mansion with plenty unocuppied rooms. Alfred would NOT put you in the broom closet. it would be a bedroom that's at least as big as Damian's in Son of Batman, for example.
(i more than understand suspension of disbelief and playing around with all sorts of interesting concepts and characters, so I'm not criticizing anyone!)
in fact, i think it's kinda worse that, say, you have a bedroom that's a wall across from Tim's and he still kinda forgets you exist.
also, i believe Bruce's kid would absolutely have access to a more than generous amount of money. not broke at all.
so the only type of neglect going on here is of the emotional kind. your father and your siblings have created tight-knit bonds amongst themselves based on their shared experiences and the proximity brought by them all working as vigilantes, and you're just not a part of the club.
timing is also relevant.
P&F! Reader arrives at the manor some time after Damian, which means that not only have all relationships been formed over the years, Bruce has also experienced having kids, as well as having a biological child suddenly enter his life. they're a fish out of the water, and their dad is kinda awkward about this (apparently) normal child that showed up at his doorstep. while Damian is still kind of adapting, running around at night trying to bypass Bruce's security system and solve dangerous cases by himself, P&F! Reader is in their bedroom having a virtual sleepover with their Metropolis friends, streaming movies and eating caramelized popcorn.
fun fact: Damian and P&F! Reader are neighbors. he was not happy about Alfred placing his half-sibling on the room right beside his for the longest time. P&F! Reader has definetly caught him sneaking out, but they're no snitch. and you're right, he does have more free time, and he's also on summer break so no school and no homework to worry about. He's got free time to be his sibling's keeper.
and as we all know, the impression that P&F! Reader is just a normal regular kid that totally doesn't build ridiculous thingamabobs in their spare time, it's kinda easy to forget they're there amidst the Wayne family mayhem(s). Bruce is also kinda doesn't really know what to do with this kid or how to connect with them, but they don't really demand immediate attention and seem to be doing fine – so he probably shouldn't worry too much, right?
you could also argue that he's kinda awkward (emotionally constipated) with this kid and is very bad at consoling and accomodating them after the trauma that made them have to move in with him. he doesn't straight up forget they exist, although he starts paying more attention to them after Damian gets more involved in ther bio sibling's antics. and when it comes to siblings, it's just easier for their relationship to never evolve past more superficial interactions (with the exception of Damian who decides to mind P&F! Reader's business earlier on, more or less). P&F! Reader doesn't know about the vigilantism for a long time, so it's natural that they're excluded from any and all matters regarding that. and because everyone else is so busy with their own lives and P&F! Reader seems to be doing fine, so easy to overlook, has plenty of friends in and out of their new school and the Batfam is already a formed unit... Well, you get the picture.
there's also the matter of Damian. he is the kid that "needs more attention" because of his background. he's been through a lot. nevermind the possibility that you might also have gone throguh your own fair share of trauma, at the end of the day you're the easier kid. the "okay" kid with regular problems. which is sad and unfair, but that's what we're here for, isn't it? and Dick is the biggest offender when it comes to that.
not that P&F! Reader is bothered by any of that! They have an amazing summer ahead of them. 😎 It's definetly Batfam being unlucky that prevents them from spending time with P&F! Reader, but that allowed them to mostly enjoy summer without being smothered by their family. the guilt would be unmatched, that is for sure.
"And who's to say she hadn't been doing this before this summer?"
hehe :)
vampire! Reader (she was not mentioned but I'm talking about her anyway, spoilers for the fic because i want to rant) is a different story. again, timing. she arrived at the manor sometime between Dick leaving for Bludhaven and Jason being brought in, so she didn't really get a chance to develop a deeper emotional connection with Dick. that also means Bruce was a lot younger when he is faced with a biological child being thrown at his door, not to mention the less-than-ideal-circumstances in which she came to be in his custody.
and after trying to make her his newest sidekick didn't work, in the coming years he would dedicate most of his time to fighting crime as Batman and taking care of/mentoring Jason who had a rough past and is now his new sidekick. connecting and relating to Jason was easier than connecting with Vampire! Reader, but he always made sure to check on her and make sure she was okay (and the answer was always yes, because of course it was).
during this time Jason and Vampire! Reader were actually pretty close, but then he, uh. kinda died horrifically. so not only was Vampire! Reader dealing with the loss of her brother, her father was now full-on neglecting her, self-absorbed in his grief, so she felt the proper thing to do would be repress her emotions to accomodate her father and try to be his emotional support. not that it worked, but she was there! so we have the emotional neglect and we have Vampire! Reader starting to take a parental role for her own father because he's not being a parent for her. she was also completely alone in that huge manor with the exception of Alfred because none of the other kids were in the picture yet, and Dick had long since moved out. as you can see, not very nice :)
from then on she just kinda blends into the background. financially she's provided for. she is her father's daughter, so communication and expressing emotion are not her forté, but she tries her best to connect with the incoming batkids. it does not work. i have said this before, but she is the mature child, the (again) normal one who puts other people's needs before her, so she doesn't complain when Bruce makes time for literally every other kid who becomes Robin except her. but don't be mistaken: Bruce is definetly more controlling and aware of Vampire! Reader in comparison to P&F! Reader due to reasons (guess you can say early yandere signs?). Jason too is... Sort of complicated. the situation here is definetly darker and resonates with tone of the story better. and when Bruce realizes how terrible he was? oh, boy.
so I guess you can play around a lot with the neglectful! Reader trope, and that's what makes it so entertaining. yeah. that's all I have to say for today, I guess??
Omg you need to do a ask about stan trying to sweet talk bruce and in the background you see the kids fighting gnomes or zombies lol
not just an ask, this needs to be a whole chapter in the p&f! fic (which i am working on and hope to release the first chapter soon, but i don't want to jinx it by saying when!).
bruce wayne arrives at gravity falls with a shiny sedan that costs a few million dollars and suddenly stanley (and preston northwest, btw) is looking like this: 🤑
he will then proceed to make bruce’s stay in gravity falls even more unpleasant, as if having to take his private jet and then drive into the middle of the woods on a random thursday to pick up his children (who were not supposed to be on the other side of the country) wasn’t enough. but damian and p&f! reader convince him to let them stay one more day or two — and in the meantime, bruce might come to learn there’s several… strange things going on in town.
and the fact that his civilian child with no training is just out here exploring wildlife with, again, no training and no supervision (damian does not count as supervision, bruce says, though the boy insists otherwise), making cryptozoology breakthroughs and potentially battling a triangle-shaped demon doesn't really make him. you know. cheerful and happy either.
he's not going to ground them, but there will be a very serious conversation about proper communication and no more traveling for the foreseeable future.
i just keep imagining him standing there, hair slicked back, fancy overcoat, straight face, absolutely trying to filter stanley talking until he gets fed up with him again. he might get along better with stanford. but honestly, he just wants to remove his kids from this horribly dangerous and weird place and go back home. to gotham. where everything is normal as can be and p&f! reader gets into no shenanigans at all.
COUGH COUGH p&f reader thinking mabel has a crush on jon (← if he comes along, which he prob did) instead of damian and then getting all (oooh! it's a love trangle! the drama!) 'cause she thinks damian has a crush on mabel, who has a crush on jon, who has a crush on damian! and dipper it's just there- COUGH COUGH
(she fails to notice that jon wants her, not her brother, and mabel wants her brother, not his best friend turned into rival turned into ally, and again, dipper it's just there with his secret crush like, standing in the background with Perry-)
we are literally so close to recreating midsummer night’s dream by shakespeare 😭
tbh, this is a whole mess. i like to think that jon did not come along initially, but as soon as he heard damian mention that he was stuck in this ramshackle lumber town all the way in oregon (we'll go back to that) watching over his sibling and their friends, one of which behaves like a buffoon around them (damian would immediately catch up on dipper having a crush on p&f! reader, but he never outright says that), he just immediately flies there.
and what ensues is jon and dipper passive-aggressively fighting over p&f! reader while they're none the wiser, misinterpreting every interaction among the group for something incorrect. damian is looking at jon and dipper like this 🤨 because it's embarrassing how they're fighting over his sibling, he will be judgemental about it. mabel catches up on jon having a crush on p&f! reader, but since she's obviously team dipper (not just bc he's her family but, also bc pair of pine siblings + pair of wayne siblings, she just thinks it would be so cool!), she might try to get in jon's way by talking to him and diverging his attention somehwere else.
also, kind of unrelated, but i cannot stress enough that p&f! reader and damian are in OREGON, where gravity falls is supposed to be located. we don't really know exactly where gotham is supposed to be, but from what i've seen, the general consensus is that it is somewhere around new york. look at the distance:
i am POSITIVE that when p&f! reader asked bruce if they could spend a week or two at their friends' he assumed it was in metropolis, where p&f! reader used to live. or even in gotham. now imagine his surprise when he gives damian a call for whatever reason, to question him about something vigilante-related or to check up on him (... and reader), and he learns not one, but TWO of his children are almost THREE THOUSAND MILES (or FOUR THOUSAND KILOMETERS) away from home. and both damian and p&f! reader are so casual about it.
alternatively, bruce put a tracker on damian and p&f! reader before they left, did not check it for at least four days and when he finally did check, he just sees the two little red dots all the way in oregon and he's like. no, there must be some mistake. and then he calls damian and his children are indeed at the other side of the country.
Hey just checking on you! Haven't heard from ya in a while. I know with all the holiday craze you been busy but we miss you!
i appreciate the asks checking up on me! and you're correct, anon, it was the holiday craze. i've been a bit inactive here in favor of working on my fics, which are like... four wips, at this point? we have two one-shots and two first-chapters. not sure which one will be coming out first, but it will probably be a batfam-related one.
how've your been ^^ just checking up on you cause lol I had a whole exchange where someone was asking for this isekai gojo fic I thought they were asking about safety in ignorance, apparently not it. but I sold it so good they wanted to read it so I linked them the goods and now I'm here just checking in cause it's been a while since I saw you on my to maybe on me I scroll super fast but welp. :p hope I'm not intruding<3
omg!!! this is so sweet!! ⸜(*ˊᗜˋ*)⸝
thank you for enjoying my fic and recommending it, and thank you for checking up on me!! i'm doing fine now, just busy and trying to use my spare time to get some writing done. i have not forgotten about the next installement in that isekai au, the geto fic is still cooking, so stay tuned if you're interested!!
