Against MOGAI

"Radical Inclusionary" posts harm bisexuals, lesbians, and transmascs. Anti-truscum, no TERFs.

[mutualintelligibility-archive]

"It’s often unhealthy to hyper-analyze your sexuality to the point where how you experience it changes where you belong. This is why the idea that broader terms are somehow more restrictive is baffling. Continuously breaking labels down and creating terminology for each facet of one’s identity shrinks communities until it’s just one person convinced that they’re the only one who relates to their experiences. It isolates people and ignores the importance of individuality within a collective identity."

On Hyperpersonalized Sexual Identity

[barefeetinsoil]

The author also dropped some gems in the last paragraph of the short article:

[womenintheirwebs-archived]

[the-nerdy-autist]

Oh wow accusing gay people of being pedophiles!

How woke! How noble! How totally not homophobic! And it doesn't become less homophobic because you slapped white in front of it!

Accusing LGBT content of being "child porn" totally isn't what Republicans are doing as they accuse LGBT people of being groomers and ban LGBT books from libraries! I'm totally anti racist! Totally fighting CP you guys!

Do you HONESTLY think Drarry fics are the same as actual child porn that hurts and features actual children? Do you?

Or are you just really homophobic and really stupid?

[womenintheirwebs-archived]

i’m only reblogging this cuz i see this interesting conflation between fanfiction as inherently “LGBT content” (it’s not) and published nonwhite writers and LGBT writers getting their books banned by white supremacist christofascists. like they’re the same thing????

it’s very disingenuous because if u’ve spent any time in fan communities (like i have, cuz i am a fanfiction writer)—u would know that minors have been pointing out inappropriate behavior—adults using fanfiction and fandom spaces 2 groom kids, adults writing RPF fanfiction abt (real) minors and how ao3 by it’s very design streamlines the process of the sexual exploitation of minors. and the adults who make excuses for these folks, like u.

it’s very easy to say “you’re being homophobic for pointing how people in this (alleged) community are taking advantage of others….and i’m completely okay with people taking advantage of others if i get to have my ‘LGBT Content (TM)’.

it’s much more difficult 2 confront the actual problems in fandom culture—so it can be as inclusive as everyone (white) swears it is. so go back 2 reading ur drarry fic or whatever and leave the discourse 2 me.

[againstmogai]

Proship: totally not an echochamber

[againstmogai]

I mean, all it really does is reveal your naiveté and lack of awareness of others. But I already knew white mog*is don't care about that

[verosikaism]

You can hate white queers in the mogai community all you want, but what we shouldn't normalize is telling poc how to identify lol. My culture, practice, language, EVERYTHING has been stripped from my tribe. I'm proudly two spirit and these strict labels were never meant for indigenous folk, or intersex people or literally anyone outside of the norm. I'm not going to let someone with a colonizer viewpoint tell me how I should identify because of my culture makes me outside of the label. Nor should you deny the historical significance that the bi dykes, the boy dykes and mspec lesbians had in literally every part of the queer movement. You cannot deny people's identities because you can't understand it.

[againstmogai]

What the fuck are you talking about how does this have to do with narc being a term by and for drug users are you fucking stupid

[verosikaism]

this is about ur entire account lol

[againstmogai]

Have you stopped to consider assuming I'm white is also a weird racist move

[verosikaism]

not once did I say you're white, or even assume that. You shouldn't be policing poc, it's still shitty and you guessed it, racist! It doesn't matter what race you are, if you are saying someone's culture is the reason they can't be a certain label that's racist.

[againstmogai]

Where the fuck did I police POC? Show me examples. Give links and screenshots.

[verosikaism]

your entire account is you putting your hateful and bigoted opinions on people's identities and what is and isn't valid. white people aren't the only people in the mogai community. While the white portion of the community is a problem and there are things that need to be addressed you're doing it at the expense of the other poc that do use labels like the ones you're bashing.

[againstmogai]

That isn't "targeting POC" you mush brain. If you had any braincells you'd notice I have issues with the racism persistent in M*gai shit. Anyway.

[againstmogai]

I mean, all it really does is reveal your naiveté and lack of awareness of others. But I already knew white mog*is don't care about that

[verosikaism]

You can hate white queers in the mogai community all you want, but what we shouldn't normalize is telling poc how to identify lol. My culture, practice, language, EVERYTHING has been stripped from my tribe. I'm proudly two spirit and these strict labels were never meant for indigenous folk, or intersex people or literally anyone outside of the norm. I'm not going to let someone with a colonizer viewpoint tell me how I should identify because of my culture makes me outside of the label. Nor should you deny the historical significance that the bi dykes, the boy dykes and mspec lesbians had in literally every part of the queer movement. You cannot deny people's identities because you can't understand it.

[againstmogai]

What the fuck are you talking about how does this have to do with narc being a term by and for drug users are you fucking stupid

[verosikaism]

this is about ur entire account lol

[againstmogai]

Have you stopped to consider assuming I'm white is also a weird racist move

[verosikaism]

not once did I say you're white, or even assume that. You shouldn't be policing poc, it's still shitty and you guessed it, racist! It doesn't matter what race you are, if you are saying someone's culture is the reason they can't be a certain label that's racist.

[againstmogai]

Where the fuck did I police POC? Show me examples. Give links and screenshots.

[againstmogai]

I mean, all it really does is reveal your naiveté and lack of awareness of others. But I already knew white mog*is don't care about that

[verosikaism]

You can hate white queers in the mogai community all you want, but what we shouldn't normalize is telling poc how to identify lol. My culture, practice, language, EVERYTHING has been stripped from my tribe. I'm proudly two spirit and these strict labels were never meant for indigenous folk, or intersex people or literally anyone outside of the norm. I'm not going to let someone with a colonizer viewpoint tell me how I should identify because of my culture makes me outside of the label. Nor should you deny the historical significance that the bi dykes, the boy dykes and mspec lesbians had in literally every part of the queer movement. You cannot deny people's identities because you can't understand it.

[againstmogai]

What the fuck are you talking about how does this have to do with narc being a term by and for drug users are you fucking stupid

[verosikaism]

this is about ur entire account lol

[againstmogai]

Have you stopped to consider assuming I'm white is also a weird racist move

[againstmogai]

I mean, all it really does is reveal your naiveté and lack of awareness of others. But I already knew white mog*is don't care about that

[verosikaism]

You can hate white queers in the mogai community all you want, but what we shouldn't normalize is telling poc how to identify lol. My culture, practice, language, EVERYTHING has been stripped from my tribe. I'm proudly two spirit and these strict labels were never meant for indigenous folk, or intersex people or literally anyone outside of the norm. I'm not going to let someone with a colonizer viewpoint tell me how I should identify because of my culture makes me outside of the label. Nor should you deny the historical significance that the bi dykes, the boy dykes and mspec lesbians had in literally every part of the queer movement. You cannot deny people's identities because you can't understand it.

[againstmogai]

What the fuck are you talking about how does this have to do with narc being a term by and for drug users are you fucking stupid

[againstmogai]

I mean, all it really does is reveal your naiveté and lack of awareness of others. But I already knew white mog*is don't care about that

[zestyai]

I genuinely think gender binary existing would be fine if it wasnt for people thinking that since there is a gender binary thats more popular then the others, that it means no other gender binary is correct.

Oh and it also makes people get upset at gender NONbinaries

[againstmogai]

??????????

[hinekoa-deactivated20240418]

NARC LESBOY

[id: a 6 stripe flag. the very top stripe is black, the following stripe is a dark-ish purple, the following stripe is a dull hot pink, the following stripe is a light, almost pastel pink, the following stripe is a very light yellow. the last stripe is black. end id]

a lesboy who is a narcissist!

pls don't use this flag if you don't have npd.

requested by @saw-lesbo :3

as always, gaybians/lesboys/anyone else can use this label!

[againstmogai]

Narc is a word already lmao and it doesn't mean narcissist

[pjharvey-moved-deactivated20250]

“sexuality is so complicated and impossible to label” - annoying tumblr person about to describe what is literally just bisexuality

[tgirlmouse]

i don't feel nearly as ashamed or hesitant to talk about my queer tgirl attraction to men as my tguy brothers would feel talking about their attraction to women

obligatory "if you're a trans guy and your attraction to women is het, that's real and okay! your trans experience isn't a monolith and other trans people being different doesn't make you different or wrong"

like, think about it: hardly anyone bats an eye when a tgirl uses grindr or calls herself a faggot, but as soon as a man calls himself a lesbian, everyone gets on his ass. anything for an excuse to shit on lesbians, i guess. it makes me angry that nobody sees this hypocrisy or these ties back to the lesbian separatism that infected the community post-70s. it's not gone, it never went away

this isn't exactly profound news to anyone who gives a shit about lesbian history. just something i find interesting

[againstmogai]

It's now cool to misgender transmascs and recycle TERF rhetoric if you do it in a faux self aware fashion

[apas-95]

just saw someone employ the amazing rhetorical maneuver of saying 'wow you're really just accusing me, a Queer, of being a pedophile, how are you not just parroting conservative rhetoric' to defend the consumption of child porn

[apas-95]

the idea that there exists an exclusive subset of people who are ontologically permitted to consume CSEM in order To Cope should be fairly ridiculous on the face of it to anyone whose opposition to pedophilia stems from the real, quantifiable harm it causes to children, rather than being based on how much it makes the pedophile an unjustifiable Bad Person; but that's evidently asking too much.

[apas-95]

This is a good example of the attitude I'm talking about, here. In terms of its existence and consumption, what is the functional difference between CSEM and written/drawn child porn? In terms of its production, yes, one of them is the direct result of child abuse, but we aren't discussing the production of child porn, here, we're discussing its consumption and distribution.

Child porn of all types is materially harmful, because it is used to normalise child abuse and to groom victims. If your opposition to pedophilia stems from its real, material harm to children, there should be little difference in your consideration between CSEM and written/drawn child porn, because their dissemination and consumption has generally equivalent effects.

If, however, your opposition to pedophilia is based on the supposed moral character of the pedophile, then suddenly there is an apparent world of difference, where consumption and dissemination of a given type of child porn is unobjectionable (or at least less objectionable), because the pedophile is not 'complicit' in child abuse directly required for it to come into being. Your moral opposition is to the material 'exploiting real children' in its past essence, rather than in its present usage. The opposition is to child abuse contributing to this material, and not to this material contributing to child abuse.

This is a viewpoint fundamentally disconnected from actual consideration of the harm caused by child abuse, and one entirely focused, instead, on whether you're a Bad Person or not.

[meme-ento-morii]

Genuinely bizarre to me that "I don't want to have sex/be physically intimate with someone unless I have a deep emotional connection with them" is considered by some to be a whole sexuality instead of like. Normal.

[d0gg-rr4tt3zz]

amazing how this post manages to both say asexual people are delusional and simultaneously call people who enjoy casual sex Abnormal Freaks. great job👍🏻

[againstmogai]

this truly is the piss on the poor website. where did OP call anyone abnormal freaks. project your insecurities somewhere else

[againstmogai]

yeah let's defend the TERF sexuality good job

[meme-ento-morii]

Genuinely bizarre to me that "I don't want to have sex/be physically intimate with someone unless I have a deep emotional connection with them" is considered by some to be a whole sexuality instead of like. Normal.

[d0gg-rr4tt3zz]

amazing how this post manages to both say asexual people are delusional and simultaneously call people who enjoy casual sex Abnormal Freaks. great job👍🏻

[againstmogai]

this truly is the piss on the poor website. where did OP call anyone abnormal freaks. project your insecurities somewhere else

[againstmogai]

No comment necessary

[aroacemonster]

Friendly reminder that LGBTQ+, Queer, and LGBT+ are the preferred terms for the community (x).

Friendly reminder that Queer is approved by 72.9% of the people, and the groups who don’t prefer it’s use as an umbrella term are straight people, exclusionists, transmeds, truscums, sex-negative people, and sex work critical people (x).

Friendly reminder that aros and aces are excluded only 9.2% / 8.1% of the time respectively while being included  78.9% / 81.2% of the time (x)

Friendly reminder that exclusionists are in the minority and aro/ace people are included in the LGBTQ+ community by the people within the community.

[lesser-flamingo]

Also, i checked out the survey the second claim sources a while back: this is not OP choosing the words truscum, exclusionist, etc. These are labels that the survey gave people the option to self-identify as. It’s self-proclaimed exclusionists who dont like the word queer, not random accusations

[butch-with-a-tortoise-deactivat]

yeah that’s super important. 

[faranae]

This one gets reblogged on main. The reclassification of ‘queer’ as an inexcusable slur is a recent development which stems in part from exclusionist rhetoric. We reclaimed it decades ago. Learn our history. You are not immune to TERF propaganda, but you can absolutely choose to educate yourself to spite it.

Be kind. 💜

[againstmogai]

when the survey caps out at 45 years old you know it's bullshit