I could see Michiru slowly getting attached to some of those idiots, maybe it would take a little bit longer for Usagi and never for Minako, but Rei and Mako? I can see it! It would take a bit for Michiru to see that Rei is just like that with everyone and she is not just doing a dick measuring contest to overcompensate. Very spicy but interesting and refreshing inners combo!
Also I’m guessing you meant Michiru joining at their same age, but the idea of canon Michiru (who looks to be in her mid 20s let’s be honest) just joining a team full of children is funnier.
Ami would have jumped off the nearest bridge.
Ok, sorry. I’m kidding, but also not really. That duo would have been the extreme depression and self-depreciation Olympics. Haruka would care about Ami because she’s Haruka, but I don’t think Ami would genuinely care about Haruka. I don’t think any amount of antidepressants would have gotten Ami out of an S situation with Haruka of all people.
I would feel really bad for Haruka tbh, that’d be a lot on her shoulders.
This is from the Mercury/Saeko piece, I didn't want to reblog it like a 4th time to answer some of these, so I'll do it like this instead! :) Thank you! @thoughtfulfangirling
Firstly, thank you so much! It's the best feeling to see art of mine inspire so many thoughts for the 'what ifs', I love that sm. Second, my interpretation of the events that transpired are no more valid than other people's, so don't let my answers influence your thoughts on the story behind this piece.
Honestly, wtv you can make up is most definitely already better than what I'm going to write
Ami told Saeko who didn't/couldn't stop her from saving the world a la Buffy or does the transformation magic that makes them unrecognizable wear off if they're dead?
I have an ongoing narrative thing in my blog where Saeko already knows her daughter is Mercury (and Ikuko/Kenji know Usagi is Moon), she knows she can't stop Ami from doing this. BUT I do think the idea of her not knowing is probably worse and way more heartbreaking because there's no closure and most importantly, no precedent.
Idk if I mentioned it before on Tumblr, but this particular art was heavily inspired by a fic I recall reading a very long time ago. I haven't been able to find it again (I've looked for it everywhere I swear, I do know it was on ff.net for sure) it was a one-shot about Saeko running into a dying sailor mercury and trying to help her (more like consoling her tbh) as a medical professional without knowing it was her daughter. Even as Mercury was calling her "mom" (or even mommy, I don't remember but that's actually depressing if it was) as she was crying and apologizing like an actual scared child talking to their parent as if it's the last time they'll see them, Saeko was still like "I'm not your mother, I'm sorry" at first. I don't recall everything perfectly but I'm pretty sure she ended up pretending Mercury was her daughter for the sake of making this dying child feel better in her last moments. I don't remember how it ended outside of the fact that I'm sure Mercury did end up dying.
Somebody also mentioned the fact that Saeko might not actually realize that's Ami, she simply got a super strong gut feeling the moment she locked eyes with her, but ended up walking away after. And that is UGHH!! Cause wtf, imagine then her just sitting there, her daughter has been missing for days or even weeks and just that sensation in her that keeps stirring in her gut of "was that her?".. just the pure denial and horror and guilt, omg that's terrifying but so good!
How did her body get left there? Did the senshi walk away after she died? Because what would they do with the body?
That is actually not something I thought about much before, but that's true! What would they do with a body? Especially since Mercury is bleeding so much, they can't just take it with them, and take it where?? I did not make the piece with the idea that Mercury was by herself when she died, I had it where at least some of the girls were there but they had to leave. There's no magical crystal revival, even if Sailor Moon most definitely tried.
I don't believe their identity is at risk from this because, the way I see it, transformations don't drop after death, so nothing can link Mercury's body back to Ami Mizuno (idk the exact science behind it but I imagine Mercury's dna IS different from Ami's, and even if it isn't, Tokyo is fucking massive and Ami is just one of the probably dozens of children going missing every day there.) Maybe Mars could burn it but that would be such a difficult decision since they'd be robbing everything left of Ami from her family and also burning a body takes time. If it's not burnt significantly before authorities arrive, they basically defaced their friend's body for nothing. And none of the girls would be happy to do that, burning the body of someone so extremely dear to you who died in such a tragic and sudden manner, they would be even more devastated.
On top of that, like, Saeko knows she still can't have her body, even if she says "fuck all your secret identities I want my daughter", the police won't give it to her cause that is still Mercury, but maybe just the idea of the body still existing is better than them cremating it without her mother's permission. It's so tough man, cause who tf knows what the authorities will do with it, run experiments on it? it's a very bleak perspective..
Lastly, if Saeko does know Ami is Mercury and presumably knows about the other girls' secret identities, I genuinely don't know what she would do. I don't see Saeko being a dangerous person at all, but that's her only daughter... you can't safely predict how a parent going through such strong emotions and grief might react. I would be especially worried for Makoto since she lives alone and perhaps Makoto even promised her she would do her best to protect Ami, Jupiter is the protector and since she failed, Saeko sees a direct target to blame for everything that happened.
Also the fact that she has no parents and is independent most likely already caused Saeko to treat her more like "an adult" when compared to Usagi for example since the first time she met her. Not saying I think Saeko would kill her but I'm convinced things would turn violent and idk if poor Makoto would be fighting back.
If Mako was there or even if she was only told of what happened, she already is most definitely spiraling down fast. Losing a loved one like this is literally the worst thing that could happen to her. (talking from the perspective of them not even dating or even having any feelings for each other btw, like Mako and Ami ARE close platonic friends. Mako definitely feels a bit of a stronger urge to protect people like Ami and Usagi than say somebody Minako or Rei) She already knew that if anything ever happened to Ami, she would likely need to be the one to go to her mother and tell her, but.. how?? With what face does Makoto show up on the doorstep of the Mizuno residence and tell her "Ami, your daughter, is dead." Mako would definitely blame herself HARD, she failed Ami, she failed the team and she failed Dr Mizuno; she deserves this.
How would your hypothetical Uranus vs Jupiter fight go? Who would win?
I’m imagining this fight to be as if I have total freedom to do wtv I want, budget for animation isn’t a problem, I can make it pretty brutal if I want and their powers align more with the way I see them working instead of how they work in canon.
This post is hc heavy and also VERY nerdy. I was a gm Overwatch player, I love strategy talk in terms of pvp so this Type of blabber is MY JAM, I also needed a break from the “things I like” post. Enjoy! :)
Under cut cause it’s long, and boring if you don’t care. It’s fine. I don’t wanna stuff your feed.
The main thing I would want, no.. NEED, to see is them being smart. They are both powerhouses, but also they’re smart fighters. I want to see them playing the game to their advantage using everything they have available in their environment to get the upper hand on each other.
They’re both strongest at close range.
Jupiter needs to get close to people to deliver a decisive blow and to properly conduct her electricity to their bodies. She *can* shoot her electricity, but it is very unreliable since once electricity is dispersed in the air, it does not go where you want it to go, it goes towards the path of least resistance. And it’s also extremely dangerous. So 9 times out of 10 Mako does not want to shoot out her electricity, she just keeps it charged on her body to release upon impact or close to impact. She’s incredibly strong and tough, she can easily tank blows others can’t and a good punch from her can end the fight then and there, but the drawback is that she’s slow. Her attacks hit the heaviest but they also have the longest windup when compared to all of the other girls.
Uranus also wants to get close to people. My version of Uranus does not have world shaking, but to compensate she has as many swords as she wants (for visual reference think of it as Sayaka’s powers from pmmm) and she can also detonate them at will (she is immune to her own explosions, yes). She also *can* throw them, but it is not reliable. Even if her swords are scimitars and they’re shorter and curved, they’re awkward to throw from anything further than medium range at best. Throwing them also locks her movements and leaves her temporarily vulnerable for a second since the action of throwing something as heavy as a sword is no small feat, it’s a full body motion. While she’s physically strong, her prowess as a fighter does not come from brute strength like Jupiter, she cannot tank as many hits, even if she can still tank more than the rest of the girls and her attacks don’t hit as heavy, but they don’t need to. She has swords, her goal is to get as close to a person as possible to slice (not stab, important, scimitars are best for slicing. You generally do not want to thrust while using a scimitar). To help her do that, she’s incredibly fast. Not only she runs fast, but she can easily dodge Jupiter’s slow attacks if Jupiter is not smart about how she’s fighting, allowing her to always secure the first hit.
TLDR
Both fight best at close range
Jupiter is slower, but hits hardest and can tank more hits
Uranus is faster, but does not hit as hard and cannot tank as many hits
ALTHOUGH, Jupiter’s tanky-ness becomes a much less important factor keeping in mind that she’s resilient towards blunt blows (her muscle mass and body fat protect important organs and bones by acting as cushions), NOT towards slicing/stabbing attacks. She’s still made of flesh, doesn’t matter how thick her skin and muscles are, a sword is a sword and it will slice through her if she allows it to happen.
So, Jupiter cannot get close to Uranus otherwise Uranus can easily cut her. One or two good placed slices and Jupiter is out of the fight at best, bleeding to death at worst. Uranus cannot get close to Jupiter because one contact is enough to send a shock to her body powerful enough to stun her, giving Jupiter enough time to deal a heavy blow which can easily just kill her or incapacitate her enough to allow Jupiter to hit her multiple times. Uranus IS still getting shocked if she manages to cut Jupiter and Jupiter is ready for it since her sword is metal, an extremely conductive material. So she needs to be smart about how she approaches attacking her and urging a good distance between them so even if she does get shocked, Jupiter still has to catch up with her. Jupiter has residual electricity in her body following attacks, which sends pretty powerful shocks at the touch, but not enough to be anything more than a strong jolt if enough time has passed for the energy to dissipate.
As for the location: Ideally I would want to see them fight in a common area full of stuff surrounding them that they can use to their advantage, something like an indoor mall would be perfect (which has been evacuated following a monster attack). So both Uranus and Jupiter can pick up things like tables and chairs in the food court, take cover/regain grounds behind stands or commercial planters and using stuff like drinks left by guests or even perfume and makeup from stores around them as things to throw to discombobulate the other. Still having it be indoor is a good debuff against Jupiter, since closed common areas are more susceptible to dangerous outages or even explosions caused by her recklessness while handling electricity.
All of this exposition to lay out the most important factor in the whole fight, win conditions: (the objective each party must achieve in order to secure victory. Aka, the question each must ask themselves in order to come out on top “how do I deliver the final blow before she gets the chance to?”)
Jupiter’s win condition is: use objects around her to toss for distraction or to incite aggression where Uranus is forced to commit to an attack, using the object as cover or shield where ideally the sword gets stuck or unable to deliver a second slash for at least a second or two where Jupiter can safely get close enough to shock Uranus. Gaining even more extra second so she can chain the stun long enough to delivery a heavy blow without allowing Uranus to regain her footing. Given Uranus is faster than her, overcommitting to the idea of having Uranus miss a strike is too much of a risk. It’s better if she lets herself be an easy target, just making sure to always have something she can use to protect her body from the blades. At this point in the story she does not Uranus can detonate her swords.
Uranus’ win condition is: use objects around her to distract or discombobulate Jupiter long enough for her to deliver a fast but effective strikes without giving Jupiter the time to react while making sure to step far away from her after the process. Uranus is aware that one or two cuts are not enough to take Jupiter out (unless she gets lucky, but she can’t rely on luck). Ideally she wants to incite Jupiter’s aggression, causing her to commit to a slow attack that she knows she can easily dodge, allowing her to get free strikes while Jupiter is vulnerable, rinse and repeat. Also being extremely mindful of conductive objects and surfaces near her, and using insulating materials like wood to her advantage, which allow her to touch Jupiter without running the risk of getting electrocuted. Lastly, she has the ace up her sleeve of detonating her swords to catch Jupiter off-guard for both offensive or defensive purposes, she knows the explosion is too small to do any significant damage against her, but the strength of this attack lies in the fact that Jupiter does not know Uranus can do this.
Basically, they both want to bait the other’s aggression into over-committing where they can take advantage of the other’s vulnerability to delivery a strike of their own. Uranus can react faster to distractions and baits, but she also needs to employ this strategy at least twice or thrice to surely take out Jupiter. Jupiter needs only one good opening to completely take out Uranus since she can use her electricity to stun Uranus.
So, how would I personally handle this fight?
This is actually one of the few sequences I do have written for my AU!
The circumstances of the how and why it starts are fairly similar to the canon ones. You just really need to know that Jupiter is pissed at Uranus for her immoral actions and behavior as a Sailor Senshi and Uranus was initially only looking to defend herself against Jupiter’s aggression, but she quickly allowed the anger from her repressed self-conviction to spiral into aggression.
They start out only fighting hand to hand, no powers. I see it as a sort of silent mutual agreement, like Jupiter starting it, wordlessly telling her “I don’t need powers to fuck you up and set you straight” and Uranus would accept the challenge. While still being a pretty close back and forth, I actually Uranus beginning to gain the upper hand. She’s playing smarter than Jupiter, using her speed to her advantage while still being relatively of clear mind (Jupiter being the one who’s definitely the angriest of the two, and while anger is good for stamina, it is not good for being patient and smart). Also not being helped by the fact that Jupiter DEFINITELY heavily underestimated how good of a fighter Uranus actually is, she has no respect for her and Uranus is taking advantage of that hard.
All leading to Jupiter being the one to break her own agreement and grab Uranus’ fist while delivering a powerful shock. At this point the agreement is done and the fight is full on, powers and all.
I do want to keep it ambiguous if they are actually looking to seriously harm or even kill the other, because I don’t know. I don’t think even they know, in a situation like this instincts take over and they need to treat it as if their lives could be genuinely in danger. They don’t know each other almost at all: for all Uranus knows Jupiter wants to kill her. Jupiter is not thinking clearly because she is the main aggressor, all she sees is Uranus with swords, it does not matter Uranus’ intentions, a sword WILL kill her if she’s not careful enough. And that’s not to say Jupiter is the only one on the offensive, Uranus is attacking too, she’s in as much as Jupiter is in, but Jupiter has been the first instigator twice already and Uranus is prideful. Uranus wants to win this not only cause her life is on the line, but also because, in her deeply grief ridden and self-hating state of mind, she’s reasoning that beating Jupiter will be proof to herself that she is in the right. That she’s doing the right thing, because she’s the only one strong enough to be this cruel and there’s no other way.
This is a battle of will and morality above all else. Jupiter is fighting for her own sense of justice and personal responsibility as heroes instilled by her black and white morality, while Uranus is fighting to show Jupiter (while in reality she only cares to show herself) that what she’s doing is simply what needs to be done and that Jupiter and the others can’t understand BECAUSE of such black and white morality.
I don’t have the whole fight scripted or anything, but after keeping a fairly steady stalemate where Jupiter has been able to deliver some significant, but not debilitating, blows to Uranus and Uranus managing to cut her pretty bad on the forearm and deliver some hard blows herself using the environment around her, Jupiter is the one who begins gaining an advantage after Uranus makes the mistake of “taunting her” for her own stupidity and child-like morality. The words cut deep for Jupiter, instilling renewed strength and stamina while Uranus’ depleting stamina has been causing her reflexes to get slower, her muscles to start aching and her mind to not be as sharp.
Jupiter really believes in what she’s fighting for, Uranus doesn’t and I would love to see that internal battle getting reflected in their lasting conviction towards the end of the fight. Where both are extremely strained, significantly beaten and exhausted, Jupiter is the one that gets the strength to keep attacking. Uranus has no more strength to attack (her “insulting” Jupiter was perhaps a subconscious action by her desperate mind, which was seeing how this fight was very clearly turning into a stalemate or draw, to NEED to reassure herself that it did not matter if she won this fight, she was still in the right. Not calculating how this action could have possibly spurred new strength from her aggressor), she’s imply forced to do her best to be on the defensive. But she’s fighting a losing battle, she has no strength to run away, no strength to attack, all she can do is evade Jupiter’s attacks long enough for her to get exhausted or get her tired enough to catch her by surprise with her ace up her sleeve, which is what she does.
Jupiter makes the mistake of locking herself in a position too close to Uranus’ sword (which she was using defensively as a lever to push Jupiter off of her) and Uranus detonates it. Sending Jupiter flying off the near-by balcony onto the main floor below them, landing hard on her back against a service desk counter. Uranus manages to slowly get back on her feet, she looks at her opponent several floors below her and goes to leave, taking Jupiter’s incapacitated state as a victory. But stops when she notices Jupiter’s small figure significantly spasming, and against her better judgement uses the escalators to quickly reach her.
Uranus fought all this time with the idea that if Jupiter dies, she dies, this was her mistake for starting and continuing to fuel this fight, but once she’s faced with the reality of this human being suffering with a rapidly fatal condition SHE caused, her first instinct is to go and help her despite her own injuries. Perhaps Uranus did not want to kill her after all, she still won, but she’s not one to punch down.
I love integrating more realistic injuries to the girls’ battles. In anime I’m so used to seeing dudes just being thrown through 15 buildings without a scratch, but to me it’s important emphasizing that these girls are still human and can die or get seriously permanently injured from one wrong step. They have superpowers and they can tank things better than a regular person can, but a blast into fall from a two story balcony onto a hard surface is not going to break the surface, it’s going to break bones.
The spasming that Uranus was seeing is Jupiter desperately gasping for air. The trauma of the fall caused her throat to lock up (I’ve looked all of this up to check the logistics and realism cause I’m a nerd, it’s called Laryngospasm) making her unable to intake any air, while also having a couple broken ribs causing additional pain with every failed attempt at expanding her airways. She knows Jupiter will die in a matter of minutes if she doesn’t at least try to help, even is she’s not sure how. She moves to attempt grabbing the base of her neck and the second her hand touches her, Jupiter sends a powerful jolt of electricity through her body. Sending her to the ground into a semi conscious state. Jupiter painfully slides off the counter and shock of the impact with the ground is enough to allow the air trapped within her lungs to escape and open her throat once again. (I’m not a medical professional, Jupiter had no fucking clue what she was doing and she got VERY lucky this time it helped because of the very specific circumstances going on within her body. Even if the circumstances are exactly this, the smart thing was allowing Uranus to help her, something called a Larson Maneuver is how a person can break a Laryngospasm. Get someone to call 911 dont roll off a counter lol. It could help, but it could also kill you if you have a flail chest, or a punctured or bruised lung)
Without getting into specifics, Neptune shows up and sends Jupiter through the glass display and against another hard surface of a store across the mall after seeing her crawling towards Uranus. Who is now fully unconscious.
So, who wins? Technically I guess Jupiter this time, but not really. Jupiter betrayed Uranus’ trust twice, she played extremely unfair because losing was not an option for her. Even if they both died, nothing else mattered to her at that moment other than getting Uranus out of the picture or at least “defeated” enough where she would never be able to hurt others again while being alive. Uranus’ mercy meant nothing because she was blindly driven by her own conviction.
Ironically in her quest to establish her “high and mighty” hero morality onto Uranus, Jupiter is the one who acted the least heroic out of the two. They were both acting on selfish means, but when Uranus came faced with the consequences of her actions, she expressed regret and a willingness to do good. The reason Jupiter even came to lay there gasping for air was her own fault, she had the chance to let it go, yet she kept going and going, disregarding her own safety in the process. And even then, she took advantage of Uranus’ mercy towards her and STILL kept going, all driven her selfish means.
In the most blatant way I can describe it, Jupiter acted like a bully. If Uranus won’t learn she’ll make her learn and she won’t stop because she knows she can. Jupiter knows she’s strong and where she should use that strength to help and protect others, this time she used it to beat her ideals onto others. Not saying Uranus is an innocent victim in all of this, but the situation came up to be.. not black and white.
They will both need to learn a lot from this.
Also yeah, Mako most definitely will be spending a good week at least in the hospital and will continue to suffer minor consequences from the injuries sustained in this fight. Cold weather is going to be much less fun than it already was lol. Haruka got lucky the last shock wasn’t strong enough to cause significant nerve damage, though that hand will at times feel tingly (like pins and needles), nothing too serious but it’s a reminder.
ahahahah I know Awash. That fic was completely based on the goofing around we all used to do about haruka's love of Olive Garden in our circle, it's WILD to see it elsewhere, so much fun because it goes WAY back: https://docholligay.tumblr.com/post/119132058020/les-jardin-des-olives
Oh, wow!
There’s lore to this! I had this post in my faves for the longest time and I thought “wait, this isn’t a Doc post?” LMAO
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