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I’m glad we’re all in agreement that Lilith Clawthorne is an aroace lesbian

Bruh its practically canon remember? in her letter its a WOMAN who asks her out sooooi

You are so right also as far as I’m aware the TOH crew & Cissy Jones have only ever said they support or implied they support her being shipped with women. That woman is a lesbian & is not interested in men at all. Canon.

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[ID: Several pride flags colorpicked from Lilith Clawthorne from the Owl House. She is a teenager and wears her Grudgby uniform. The flags are in pairs, with the first flag being just the colorpicked flag, while the second flag has Lilith over it. Images 1 and 2 are the aroace flag, images 3 and 4 are the transfem flag, images 5 and 6 are the lesbian flag, images 7 and 8 are the aromantic flag, and images 9 and 10 are the asexual flag. End ID]

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I'm so sick of people saying stuff like "oh well aroaces can still date/have sex!!!" and "oriented aroace people and queerplatonic relationships exist!!!" when people say to stop being aphobic towards canon sex and romo repulsed aroaces.

I'm specifically talking about lilith clawthorne from the owl house here. she's canon aroace and is literally confirmed to be sex and romo repulsed.

I'm so sick of people saying "she's an aroace lesbian" and stuff. not every aroace person has to have another orientation and experience tertiary attraction. and I'm saying this as an oriented aroace person!! I'm so sick of fandoms being so aphobic towards aroace characters. we barely get any aroace characters yet people have to complain so fucking much because they can't ship one fucking character

Submitted March 14, 2023

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Hi, aroace lesbian here. I want to start off by first saying it’s kinda weird that anon seemed to focus only on aroace lesbians being their issue instead of...the people actively erasing her being aroace entirely.

So let’s start off with this: she was canonly stated to be aromantic and asexual, as in not experiencing romantic or sexual attraction. In the letter confirming this, she says she has ‘never been interested [in romance or sex] and never has been.’ This can actually be read one of two ways: 1. She’s neutral toward both and isn’t interested in either or 2. She IS repulsed and isn’t interested in either. It doesn’t explicitly state which, so either reads could be correct.

Secondly, anon is correct - not every aroace person HAS to be oriented or angled. I can see being suspicious of non-aroaces headcanoning her as something else but as for aroace lesbians like myself? Quite frankly, if anyone thinks I’m being aphobic toward my own identity they need to sit down.

Thirdly, I ALSO find it weird anon seems to automatically equate Lilith being headcanoned as aroace lesbian as that somehow making her out to still have romantic or sexual attraction or relationships which...isn’t the case. Sure, they bring up tertiary attraction, but are they aware that tertiary attraction does not and NEVER equals romantic or sexual attraction? I would assume as an oriented aroace person too, they would. But the way this is worded, it doesn’t seem like it. Which also reads very much in bad faith towards aroace lesbians.

Another point anon is correct on - not every character needs to be shipped, and I wholeheartedly agree. Lilith has no partner in canon and I think that’s incredible, I don’t WANT her to have one, I love how the show focuses so much on platonic and familial relationships with their characters and not just the ones who are non-aroaces in romantic relationships.

But there’s also the fact that just because someone headcanons an aroace character as also lesbian, that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s JUST for shipping purposes. Once again, kind of in bad faith to just assume that, in the case of aroace lesbians doing this, at least.

So let me state plainly: aroace lesbians seeing Lilith, a canon aroace, as also lesbian, ISN’T AN ISSUE - so long as they’re doing it respectfully for representation and not just shipping purposes, which I would assume aroace lesbians would do since it’s OUR identity we’re talking about.

Tl;dr; Lilith can be aroace lesbian. Anon needs to focus on the people actively being aphobic or actively erasing Lilith’s aroace identity - of which there are unfortunately too many - instead of assuming aroace lesbians are doing either or both of these things.