Ruler of the 12th in the houses
🌼Ruler of the 12th in the 1st🌼
It is very likely that at some point in their life they felt prisoners of something, this can present itself in many ways, from very controlling parents, to living prisoners of their fears or insecurities. This placement usually indicates a life not so easy at first, but eventually the joy and satisfaction of the native will come once they begin to grow. These natives are people who drain easily after talking or spending a lot of time with others. They are like a sponge of energy and negative emotions, so it is advisable to use some type of crystals or incense. They have many hidden talents, and a fairly common one with this placement is highly developed intuition. They are people who can go very far if they develop this skill. These individuals are people who become obsessed very quickly, and in the same way, others can become addicted to them. They have an ethereal and almost magical appearance. They really like to "be a mystery" to others, so you won't see them much talking about themselves or sharing "personal" data. They can attract many envious people and many hidden enemies throughout their lives.
When underdeveloped, these people can be very self-doubting and can live constantly in great confusion or in great fear of the future. They may have very little self-confidence and may fear following their intuition because they think it is their insecurities or fears taking the lead. These natives can live a long time in the past and feel pain, hurts or problems from the past in a very present way. They have a hard time letting go. They ften have various identity crises, constantly rethinking who they are, their ideals, their approach to the world and the way they present themselves to others. It is no surprise to see these people changing their appearance a lot, things like the way they dress, the style of their hair, etc.
They are a very perceptive person and capable of seeing behind the soul of people, they are able to see the true intentions of others and to read people regardless of whether it is the first time they meet them. They can be easily overwhelmed by reality, so if the Ruler is poorly or badly aspected it may indicate a tendency to escapism on the part of the native.
They are very sensitive, kind and big-hearted people. Although they have a small social circle, their loyalty and the support that they will give to everyone they consider important to them is something very admirable of these natives. They are people who can be drawn to hidden, paranormal or very deep topics. It is also very likely that they have had experiences of this nature.These natives have a natural gift for psychology. It is easy for them to understand the emotions, reactions and actions of other people due to their ematic judgment, that is, it is essential that they know with whom to show compassion, since they could give a lot for people who are not worth it.
🌼Ruler of the 12th in the 2nd🌼
Individuals with this placement are people who fully understand that money is not the most important thing in life, they value their emotional stability more than their financial stability. In the same way, this makes them very generous people and capable of giving what they have to people who really need it. They do not usually have a defined style of dress, on the contrary, they tend to wear very different clothes and continue to look good with them. I have noticed that they tend to like the color blue, purple or even gray a lot. They have a somewhat low tone of voice, however very beautiful. They may have an aptitude for music or singing and it should be noted that their voice is capable of moving many people.
They could earn money through helping others, such things as coaching, being secretaries, spirit guides, teachers, psychologists, psychiatrists, nurses, or even doctors can be ways they can earn money. These people are excellent at raising the spirits and self-esteem of other people, however, they can have a difficult time accepting themselves and feeling good about who they are. They find comfort eating and sleeping, and they can do both excessively when they feel depressed, overwhelmed, or sad. These people may have some difficulty managing their money or it may suddenly get out of hand. They need to be more organized in this aspect of their life.
Many of these natives have a natural facility to make people feel safe, they have a very warm approach towards others and are capable of bringing comfort to the lives of others, however, they find it difficult to feel completely safe with other people and it can be difficult for them to open up emotionally. I have met two tarot readers who have this placement who do readings and charge for them. The way to earn money can include esoteric questions, such as astrology, tarot, healing, etc. Many of these individuals tend to collect things or keep things not for their monetary value, but rather for their sentimental value. If the Ruler is poorly aspected, the native may be a compulsive collector. There are possibilities that the native is someone oriented towards the artistic, he can be a person with an excellent sense of aesthetics and incredible skills in this branch. This could be another one of the ways you can earn money.
If the Ruler is badly aspected, especially by Pluto or Moon the native can be very possessive with their belongings and money. Let's remember that the 12th house is the house of addictions. These people tend to hate monotony and will always try to try things or do their best to get out of the routine. It can be difficult for them to follow an itinerary or to follow perfectly what their schedule dictates. These natives are excellent manifestators and naturally attract money into their lives, especially if the Ruler is Jupiter or Venus.
🌼Ruler of the 12th in the 3rd🌼
They are people whose words provide comfort, security, and emotional connection. Many people tend to open up to them easily, however they often find it difficult to open up to others. These natives have a strong desire to learn more about the dark side of the people around them. They are usually interested in getting to know people in depth, and those who do not reveal much about themselves will always catch their attention. I have noticed that music plays a very important role in the lives of these natives. For them it is always something deeper, the rhythm, the lyrics, is capable of reminding them of a specific moment, a sensation and they usually associate music with their moods.
They have a way of speaking that enchants and amazes many people. Despite being somewhat quiet, they have excellent power of conviction and persuasion. This placement can give the native an incredible imagination. It is usually a placement associated with people who like to write, draw or paint. Without a doubt your mind is an interesting and mystical place. If the Ruler is well positioned, the native may get along with their siblings or cousins and even experience a special bond with them, but if it is badly positioned, they may refuse to spend time with them. Other interests that these natives may have are: Astrology, Art, Psychology, Mysticism, Magic or Reading. They usually enjoy doing different activities in their free time and tend to have many skills.
When these people feel mentally exhausted, overwhelmed or stressed, they always choose to sleep or play some of their music, it is their way of escaping from their day-to-day problems. They are people with many fears and the native can alternate in one of these extremes, either always expecting the worst in a situation or always trying to see the good in something by blinding the bad features of the situation or the other person. Many of these natives may have trust issues and highly doubt the sincerity of other people. They are usually somewhat anxious and easily nervous. They are good listeners, counselors, and confidants, and you can trust them with your secrets. They are also, in my opinion, the best when it comes to moral support; they always know what to say and can motivate you like no one else.
I have noticed that most with this placement do not tend to have a very good school life, either because it was difficult for them in academic terms, or in social terms. Either they are indifferent to this time in their life or do not have the best memories of it. These natives alternate either in having an excellent memory capable of remembering many details, or on the contrary, being very forgetful people. They easily feel ignored, in the same way they may think that few people really care what they have to say. They may have some fear when expressing opinions or ways of thinking. Regarding communication, the native may fear public speaking or get quite nervous, in the same way, he may prefer to write before speaking. It is very common for your handwriting to change a lot or be very fluid. Many of them may write or may like italics.
🌼Ruler of the 12th in the 4th🌼
They are people that others usually go to when they want advice, they are people that others trust fully and easily, however, these natives feel a certain dislike of the idea of telling someone what is happening to them, they are very reserved with their problems. When these natives feel sad, burdened or stressed they are very likely to take refuge in food, their appetite may increase when they feel this way, and if the Ruler is Venus or Moon, the native could eat a lot of sweet or junk food. Their family life can be somewhat tense, it is very likely that they had conflict with one of their parents (or both) or that their parents argued a lot. There may be some emotional or even physical distance with the parents. Or on the contrary, the native may feel an enormous devotion or connection with their family, a grandfather or parent.
They are very spiritual people and with a great internal world. They are usually very in touch with their emotions and are quite introspective. They may think that they really like to be alone and that they enjoy being on their own most of the time, however, they long to find a person (either partner or friend) with whom they can share life, with whom to talk for hours. and someone who is by their side in the same way that they are willing. This placement indicates having unfinished business with a family member from past lives. In the same way, it can also indicate that the native needs to be the one who breaks / destroys a certain pattern of behavior that his family carries, especially if the Ruler is Mars or if the Ruler aspects Pluto or Uranus.
It is very usual with this placement that the natives have felt very alone in their children, and even somewhat ignored by their parents. Or on the contrary, that they have felt overprotected or caged by them. They may eat irregularly, either overeating or skipping meals. It is very likely that at some point in your life you have neglected your diet a lot. Either the natives feel prisoners either in their home, by an overprotective parent or a very conservative home or on the contrary, they may fear leaving their comfort zone. It is very possible that their relationships with their parents or the relationship between their parents or their family environment has contributed to their fears. So they may fear or be insecure about the idea of marrying, having children or making their life with someone else. I repeat, it is not that they do not want or will not have it, they can simply be fearful.
They have a tendency to suppress or ignore their emotions, at times, by focusing too much on healing the emotions or hurts of others. They are very empathic with others, but they lack being empathic with themselves. The natives with this placement usually live far from their city or country of origin. They are very likely to live abroad or to be attracted to the idea of living in another country. It is very likely that from an early age they matured and turned to a spiritual philosophy. They are people very connected with their beliefs.
🌼Ruler of the 12th in the 5th🌼
People can idealize the creations of the native or they can idealize the product of their hard work. They are often idealized for their talents, abilities, or what they do in their spare time. They can become very loved and appreciated for their talents. These natives alternate between not wanting to have children or feeling insecure about the idea of being a parent. They may have a very extreme image of having children, coming to desperately want to be a parent or simply be very indifferent or even hate the idea. They do not like the idea of attracting attention very much, in fact they can be somewhat introverted and may seek to go unnoticed. They may have some stage fright or some insecurity when speaking in public.
When these natives are sad, upset or depressed, they take refuge a lot in their hobbies, reaching the point of being awake or dedicating themselves to them obsessively. Deep, mysterious, art-oriented people with ethereal beauty often attract a lot of native attention. People with a thoughtful, introspective, and wise aura often fit their ideal type. These people may be interested or talented in: Astrology, Magic, many different branches of art, Acting, Design, Tarot, or any type of esoteric science. I have noticed that many of these natives tend to have an aptitude for music or acting. It is a matter of conquering their fear, since this placement augurs a lot of charisma and power of attraction.
In love, they are very romantic and detailed people; they have a propensity to give more than they receive, and they are undeniably capable of giving everything for those they love the most. Throughout their life they may experience certain romantic encounters with karmic couples or twinflames. The native may feel that they are not very lucky in love. These natives often motivate others to be themselves and are not afraid to show what they really are, however it can always be difficult for them to show themselves as they are with others, they tend to reserve their true personality or their true interests a lot. They may be attracted to people with Pisces placements/traits, with a strong Neptune or with 12th house placements.
They are people who find a sanctuary in their hobbies. For them it is not just a hobby, it is more than that, it is something they feel incredibly connected to, something they are deeply passionate about and something they can feel very attached to. It is very likely that these natives have felt their inner child repressed or limited in some way. There is the feeling of having your inner child in a cage and feeling an inability to express it openly for fear of being judged or hurt. These natives are people who really enjoy being alone, and in fact they can work better when they do not have to collaborate with others, however, they will always try to be kind to others. This placement reminds me a lot of tragic romances that evolve into something romantic and deep. They can seek to heal or be healed by their partner. They are people who can easily become obsessed with their partners and these with the natives. (Tourner dans le vide by Indila came to my mind).
🌼Ruler of the 12th in the 6th🌼
These people recommend others not to be so hard on themselves and forgive their past mistakes and leave them behind, however, they often have trouble apologizing to themselves and stop remembering their past mistakes. They are people who are constantly learning things in relation to their spiritual development. They are people very in touch with their belief / philosophy and are usually in a constant search for wisdom and knowledge about it. This could even be part of your daily routine or habits. Individuals with this placement may have a tendency to either take care of others a lot and forget about themselves, or take care of themselves a lot and forget to take care of others, so it is necessary that they establish a middle ground in this regard. And also that they establish it when it comes to giving something, try to give what you receive guys!
It is very common for these people to write when they feel overwhelmed, stressed or sad. People who constantly write in journals can have this placement. Many of these natives usually seek to help other people, but ironically it may seem annoying or difficult to ask for help, since they want to show that they are independent enough to deal with their problems on their own. These people are very likely to seek to be busy, work, or exercise to avoid or ignore their sadness, depression, or anxiety. It is worth mentioning that with this placement the natives can feel bad, tense or negative with themselves if they do not feel productive, useful or if they do not feel that they have a purpose or motive.
They are very generous, empathetic people with a great balance between heart and reason. Their hearts are of gold and they are always ready to support those who need them most. They are angels brought to earth, whose intentions are wonderful. They are people with great capacities as healers, they are able to understand the pain and frustration of others and they have the ability to make others feel confident to come to them no matter how personal the problem they have. They know how to solve the problems of others with ease. These people may be used to being alone and are likely to work better that way. Being alone can make them feel sad and somewhat overwhelmed.
These people want (and it is very likely that they will) help people through their work. Jobs such as: Doctors, nurses, psychologists, psychiatrists, veterinarians or teachers can be some of the jobs suitable for these people. These natives can attract many hidden enemies through their work, being more common to be envied by co-workers. They are considerate and understanding people with other people, but not much with themselves. They tend to be more patient and tactful with others than with themselves.
This person can repress a lot their perfectionist, rational and critical side towards others. They are people who can show a smile regardless of the pain they are feeling inside. These people usually give a lot in their relationships, perseverance, loyalty and time is something that you will have guaranteed next to these natives. They are people who always make others feel that they will always have their support and are not afraid to constantly show it. As friends, couples or lovers, they are truly unforgettable because of that unique and serious way of taking the relationship.
🌼Ruler of the 12th in the 7th🌼
This placement portrays a lovely marital relationship with a lot of adoration, commitment, devotion, affection, and support. Both will accept the other for who they are and will encourage the other to pursue their goals. The future spouse will be a person who is extremely sensitive, supportive, dreamlike, interesting, enigmatic, mysterious protective, and creative. Unlike what can be believed when seeing this placement in someone's chart, I have noticed that these natives find it difficult to fall in love or like someone. They do not tend to have many crushes and in fact take time to show affection (in loving terms) to someone. They have a tendency to like fictional characters a lot. They are very empathetic people and with a very friendly and warm approach towards other people, even if in their day-to-day they are reserved. These natives usually hide their sadness, pain or difficult things in their day to day from other people since they do not want to worry anyone.
Individuals with this placement must learn to trust their instincts, since they may attract a large number of "friends" who may wish to mislead or fool them in some way. They could have a slew of unseen enemies. They are people who throughout their lives can have a very tense romantic life. Even the native can come to think that they do not seem to have luck in love. They may attract people with Pisces placements/traits, with a strong Neptune or with 12th house placements. They are very discreet about their romantic lives, and only if they are madly in love, they will talk about their companion all the time. These natives crave a profound connection, a sense of mystery, and stability in their relationships. When it comes to having a relationship, these are people that don't just look at the physical. Their future spouse will be someone very in touch with their emotions with a tendency to hide a lot who they really are. Chances are they’ve been through a lot when it comes to love.
These people find it difficult to open up emotionally, and in fact they can be very suspicious of people's true intentions. They tend to have trust issues, they would prefer to work on their own and can be somewhat introverted. It is very likely that these natives either have a saver complex or are attracted to people who seek to save or heal them. Their future spouse will think of them as their soulmate, and there will be a lot of mutual inspiration, enthusiasm and romanticism, as well as lots of lovely little details. They are people that few get to know deeply. Many people are likely to have strong thoughts about this native. These natives often advise their friends and acquaintances when it comes to love, they can even encourage them to love themselves, however, they may have acceptance problems or think that people will hardly be able to accept, love or love them.
🌼Ruler of the 12th in the 8th🌼
In my opinion this placement is the perfect representation of a psychologist. They are excellent people when analyzing people, understanding them, studying the reason for their sadness and / or trauma. They try to keep their dark side hidden at all costs. They are persons who do not have aggressive or violent behavior. They don't tolerate when people think of them as hostile or insensitive. These natives incite others to accept that they have a dark side, to be familiar with the dark side of things and not to fear, however deep down, these natives can fear many things, and they may not accept their dark side easily. . They tend to be too self-critical. Because they are deeply suspicious, it is complicated for them to be emotionally open. It is very frequent for these people to believe that being affectionate with others can be dangerous to them. Since they feel that they reveal a lot of themselves.
These people can attract many people with Scorpio placements, traits, with a dominant Pluto / Mars or with planets in the 8th house quite frequently and unconsciously. These natives can have constant nightmares, and I know of some with this placement who suffer from sleep paralysis who have this placement. They are spiritual people who take their faith very seriously. If you denigrate things they care about, they will not hesitate to get into a debate with you. Individuals with this placement may use sex to relieve their sadness or frustration, or they may experience these emotions as a result of not having sex for an extended period of time. These people, on the other hand, despise appearing or being perceived as weak or vulnerable, and they usually hide a lot of who they are, what they really want, and what they believe.
Individuals with this placement feel very attracted to paranormal and psychic subjects, and it is very likely that throughout their lives they have had many experiences of this nature.These people are amazing at keeping secrets, especially their own, which is why so many people tell them their secrets because they have such a huge respect for privacy. I have noticed that the economic life of these natives is usually somewhat complicated, it is very likely that at the beginning of their lives they do not have much money, but eventually while they grow up they can get large amounts of money, especially if the Ruler is Jupiter or Venus.
They have a tendency to somehow be obsessed with their partners. They secretly desire someone who adores them completely. Sex with them is a mysterious but intersting adventure. To enjoy having sex, these natives require a strong bond with the other person. They have a lot more sexual desires than they appear to have. Sex with them can be intense. There may be a desire to possess or be possessed by their partners. However, it should be mentioned that there may be barriers that these natives fear breaking. This placement can indicate fears about sex or insecurities about it.
🌼Ruler of the 12th in the 9th🌼
With this placement, it is very likely that the natives have been nomads or that they have traveled a lot in past lives, and that based on that, the idea of traveling seems fascinating. However, there is also the other side of this issue, and that is that I have seen two people with this placement who fear traveling, it may be that they fear airplanes or the idea of accident while traveling. Of course, the love for other cultures does not fade. These natives may be afraid or distrustful of taking risks, no matter the risks. They may be somewhat indecisive or take a long time to make a decision. Despite avoiding discussions or problems, they can be involved in problems, either being directly involved or people around them occasionally arguing.
I have noticed that these natives have a facility to motivate others and make them stay positive regardless of the situation they are facing, however, they often find it difficult to have a positive view of their own problems and can have a tendency to pessimism. Another thing that I have noticed is that these people can guide others to have faith in themselves and do what their hearts dictate, and despite that it is difficult for them to have faith in themselves or believe that they are capable of doing something reality. These people can easily become obsessed with ideals, ways of thinking and usually these natives at some point in their life tend to be part of some fandom. They are people who are hardly convinced or stay with something for a long time, but if they really like it, they may want that to be part of their life always (applies to hobbies, friendships, couples, religion or like).
These natives may have a natural knack for learning languages and are naturally good at getting along with people from other countries. Can help and inspire other people to be better human. They can be excellent spirit guides and their wisdom is most likely a product of how old and experienced their soul is. It’s worth mentioning that people may get obsessed with the native’s energy, sense of humor, way of thinking por way of behaving. These natives attract others because of their energetic, hopeful and bright aura, even if they do not perceive themselves that way. They always try to keep faith in the world and in the people who live in it. Similar to when the Ruler is at the 11th house, these people enjoy contributing to the betterment of the world through small but meaningful actions. These people may have a better state of mind when they travel or when they come into contact with other cultures or with foreign people. Some of these people can easily get inspired before, during or after a trip.
They are very spiritual people and interested in their souls continuing to grow. They are very interested in the world and what happens in other places and people. They understand very well how people's psychology works and how emotions operate. They like to analyze the why of certain sensations and feelings and that is why these natives can perfectly understand the feelings and regrets of other people. These natives often leave their mark on others easily. They are difficult people to forget mainly because, whether inadvertently or not, they leave teachings to other people. They can be great counselors or teachers.
🌼Ruler of the 12th in the 10th🌼
Due to the dual nature of the native and their ability to adapt to the people they encounter, many people hold a different opinion of them and they may not see the native the way they really are. Suitable jobs for these natives are: Writers, Astrologers, Healers, Psychologists, Psychiatrists, Screenwriters, Singers, Songwriters, Musicians, or in Social Service. People are highly likely to idealize natives, and this can manifest itself in a variety of ways. They may have high expectations of the native, por they may perceive the native completely different as they are in real life or simply regard them as "excellent." They may have had a distant father figure, and they may be wary about discussing about their father in case the ruler has negative aspects.
Individuals with this placement have a deep fear of failure and are often very susceptible to criticism from other people. It is very likely that they take what others say about them very seriously. They will do everything possible to avoid getting into public controversy. These natives prefer to work alone and may be more productive while working like this. When the ruler has a negative aspect, the native may feel uncomfortable or apprehensive in public. Natives with this placement are able to motivate others to get what they want, to go as far as they want and to fulfill their goals, however, these natives may have a difficult time trusting themselves, taking risks when it comes to their work or fear of exposing oneself to the public. They are not huge fans of following a routine or schedule and prefer to go at their own pace. They don't mind being told what to do, nor do they mind telling others what to do.
These people have the best intentions in the world; their hearts are full of compassion and generosity, and they want to help those who need it the most through their profession. These natives can try to find a job that allows them to express themselves without having to explain what they're feeling, thinking, or wanting, which is why many people with this placement are drawn to arts-related professions. Individuals with this placement can take a lot of refuge in their work. It can lead them to overwork when they feel sad, depressed, upset, or when they feel like they need a break. People assume that the natives keep a lot to themselves, that they are too reserved, and that they are complex and difficult people to understand. They may suspect that the native is cautious or timid in some cases.
The father of these natives may have Pisces placements, traits, a dominant Jupiter/Neptune, or planets in the 12th house. These natives can change profoundly after starting their professional life, and this in fact can lead them to know a side of themselves that the natives did not know.
🌼Ruler of the 12th in the 11th🌼
Usually the native's friends are people who can have a very turbulent life, a tense emotional world or who simply have a lot of problems. Noticing this, the native will want to be there for them. People can be obsessed with them because of their ideals, their attitude towards life, and their quirks. These natives tend to have fanbases, admirers or in general people who quite esteem them and admire them for their unique style. They can have a blog oriented to: Aesthetics, Art, Astrology, Music, Character Design. And indeed your blog can be addictive to other people.
Something that I have also noticed is that these natives can feel very lonely even when accompanied by other people, and they have a hard time finding people with whom they really feel they fit in. These people may have some hidden enemies as “friends”, which is precisely why it can be difficult for them to trust others or to make their circle of friends very large. Despite being people with a small circle of friends, the friends they have are usually quite loyal and can have friendships whose bond is special and almost magical. These people can encourage others to be themselves regardless of being judged, to be authentic and "weird" ignoring what others say, however they may have a difficult time showing that side of themselves by being judged by people.
These people either have hopes that the world can be better and try to do it through small actions. However, if the ruler is afflicted (badly aspected) they could have lost faith in the world at least in one moment in their lives. They are people who can create very strong relationships with their friends. I have noticed that when the Ruler is in Scorpio, Pisces, Leo or when it is Pluto, the native's friends can be obsessed with them and want to have them just for themselves.Individuals with this placement are often afraid to give a lot without receiving anything in return. They are people who find it difficult to see their value as a person, but once they discover it they may fear opening themselves up too much. They can have friends with Pisces placements, traits, a dominant Neptune / Jupiter, or even a Stellium in the 12th house.
🌼Ruler of the 12th in the 12th🌼
These people can take refuge in music a lot, especially when their day is not going well. They are very spiritual, introspective and profound people. They tend to love topics about self-discovery and love to delve not only into their own psychology, but also that of the people they appreciate. These natives are prone to nightmares, and I know a number of people who suffer from sleep paralysis, an irregular sleeping pattern, or recurrent insomnia. These people's emotions are quite variable, and they feel them very strongly; if the Ruler is badly aspected, they may experience extreme emotions and extreme mood changes. The higher mind of the native is really dual, the native can undertake journeys to the most utopian and ideal places of his mind, but they can also travel to darker and even sad sides of his mind.
There is an addictive quality to these natives. There may be people who feel that they need more of the native, that they need your attention, understand it better or discover it. Being such mysterious and interesting people is what makes them so addictive. They have an aura of mystery and are usually very reserved, perhaps even excessively. They may find it difficult to trust people. The natives with this placement know how to read people through the facet they present to other people. They know how to detect if the person is honest and genuine, or false and negative. They are people who are capable of knowing a lot about a person even if they meet them for the first time. They may have very vivid dreams, intense dreams that can cause them the greatest happiness or the greatest fear. Their dreams have a quality and it is very possible for them to know what happens or will happen through dreams.
They are people who live very intensely in the past, they can sink a lot into the moments of the past that cause them the most harm, in the same way they can have problems letting go, either people or sadness from the past. This placement is very common in people who come from very difficult past lives or who previously learned really difficult lessons. These natives often play the role of "counseling friend". Regardless of how introverted or laid-back they may seem, they will always look out for the mental, physical, and emotional well-being of their friends. They tend to be a fundamental part with their friends although the natives do not see it that way. This native can carry a lot of karma or possible lessons aimed at self-acceptance, self-confidence and not being afraid. It is very likely that from an early age the natives have experienced paranormal situations, or that they have been in close contact with their higher selves. These people may have some psychic gift and there is a possibility that they have seen or even interacted with ghosts.
