Hi i’m Lux and this is my astv blog. I love to write so might see some stuff that also cross posted onto another blog of mine. Please send asks and requests for stories headcanons, letters all that jazz! I have an oc named Asa Rameriz, please ask about him ( here’s his spreadsheet, here’s his drawing references)
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We are so proud of this historical moment of our first female president Presidenta Doctora Claudia Sheinbaum.🥹🇲🇽
Watching her give el grito de independencia with pride of our indigenous communities, our migrant community, democracy, justice, and freedom was very emotional especially during these times 😭
I’m going to talk about Asa and Moche because both of them are so cool and I love them.
First Meeting
So they really meet for the first time on Hobie’s houseboat, after Moche has abandoned the society and Asa has gotten Miles back to his universe safely. Asa pops over to Hobie’s for a visit only to find Moche sobbing on the couch. Now by this time, he’s been given a bl kate by her so he knows who she is and that she’s a fellow warrior. It’s important to note that Asa does not make any noise unless he wants to so Moche fucking startles when Asa shows up for the first time, swearing in her native language. “Hi, I’m so sorry to bother you but you gave me my blanket right?” and it all spirals from there.
They get to talking, about their cultures, identities and everything that happened to make Moche leave the society. Asa tells her that he chewed Miguel’s ear off for his stupidity and absolutely decked his ass when he found out about him going after Miles. It makes Moche’s eyes glow for a minute and something distinctly not human replies with a fierce “good” and Asa bears his teeth in something too cruel to be called a smile
Friendship headcanons
they are very low key. Asa is usually content to just be with someone and doesn’t need a lot out of a person except for them to be kind to him and listen if he says no. Moche is all that and more. They work together (Asa might be sewing while Moche weaves), talk about their cultures, and how they are both similar and different. Sometimes they talk about the society, but only about the good times, before everything went wrong.
Asa loves pole dancing and just moving his body, it helps him regulate his emotions so he offers to teach Moche the way that he dances, and they have so much fun, keeping rhythm with their hands and feet, just existing within their bodies. They do not fear their joy and this is a good cure for grief and fear. Moche does not ever learn the pole like how Asa knows it but she learns how to spin, how to use it like you’re flying
The kids
Asa is very cautious about his children, he has to be in his universe and that just translates to everywhere. It takes some time for Asa to trust Moche but once he sees how gentle she is with literally everyone and extracts a promise to behave exactly like he tells her to, moche gets to meet the kids.
She actually bonds with Jaya and Lucille very well, even though both of them are in fact not fond of new people. She tells them stories about her own culture and probably keeps trying to cleanse the bad energy away from them. It slowly becomes a thing where if Asa isn’t feeling well Moche will take the kids out for the day and kind of explore, just paying attention to the world and how it’s so different from her own
(@the-cat-and-the-birdie i think i need to make one for Diane now)
(i'm trying so hard to not start posts with straight up screaming but aAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TEARS MOCHE AND THE KIDS)
Aia Paec isn't fond of people, he doesn't dislike them - he just was atypically uninterested. But for Asa, it's a whole different story.
Asa would probably be the person Aia Paec respects most. And even though Asa doesn't need it, Aia Paec would make sure to protect and back him at all costs.
Every time he's like 'Moche, don't do that' - Aia Paec is like 'UNDERSTOOD' and he never forgets anything fshgfdsjhg
For Moche, meeting Asa is really healing, because it's acceptance and understanding when she needs it the most. As Hobie gets the watches up and running, Moche would invite Asa and the kids to her village ASAP.
Even with the war with the Spanish in the cities, her mountain village is a bubble of culture and community she'd die for. And Moche would do anything to make sure he and the kids feel safe and at peace.
Teaching them how to treat the llamas and alpacas, or showing them how they look after the guinea pigs or cook traditional food. Moche ADORES kids
And when she has kids of her own, Asa would be one of the only people she even lets around the babies cause evil eye and also energy (Peter B can't see them until they're a couple months shes not testing it)
And like the pole dancing I CRY BECAUSE I'm like this close to going on a rant about how Moche wants to fight being sexualized cause shes 'small' (she's AVERAGE sjgfhkdkg) and wears her hair in braids and wears fluffy skirts and probably gets infantilized or sexualized a lot for it by gross people (which happens too much especially in the EGL community - UGH)
so Asa teaching her pole would mean so much to her cause she can reclaim her body without being reduced to an object and it becomes a source of power for her.
Aia Paec would LOVE Asa like he would raise Aia's standards so much he'd look at all other Spider-people like 'Why are you people worthy like him? You all lack his ruthlessness and will not survive the winter'
Oh so when Wanda literally enslaves a whole town for weeks and tries to murder a random ass teenager (America Chavez) in cold blood and basically abuses the hell outta her husband AND her own variant to be with 'her' kids it's a tragic story of a woman experiencing parenting and loss
But when Miguel takes the place of his already dying variant and is shown doing everything in his power to give Gabby a good life and somehow he's evil and most likely an abusive predator???
Hot take but I don’t think Hobie is ever gonna be comfortable around Jeff. He’s gonna force himself to be polite for Miles’ sake, but they’re never gonna have an easy-go-lucky relationship.
And the thing is, Jeff gets it. He’s a black cop. Of course he fucking gets it. He can just be glad that the kid calls him ‘Mr. Morales’ even if he doesn’t even pretend to respect his title as ‘Captain’ like Miles’ other friends do.
He wishes things were different and that this kid didn’t have to be so wary and defensive around him, but he chooses to put on the badge every day and be part of the force that he has first hand seen the corruption in. He has his reasons for doing what he does. He believes in being the change he wants to see and making sure that he can at least be one less corrupt asshole walking the beat, but he gets it.
He’s not so prideful that he expects every person to give him the respect he wishes he can someday claim. He hopes he can gain some level of trust from the punk (and oh boy, of all the people he imagined his son bringing home, an anarchic pierced up rebel was not on the list) eventually, but for now he settles for the forced politeness and let’s the clear mutual respect and adoration that Miles and Hobie share soothe him. He’s happy for his son. He’s glad he has someone who gets everything he goes through as a vigilante (and oh boy, again, that’s still something he’s getting used to).
He notices the way Hobie is constantly hanging off of Miles and the feigned casualty of his touches, but Jeff recognizes the way the young man scans the area for threats and the subtle but deliberate way he angles his body in front of Miles to protect him. Jeff feels the bone-deep weariness and guilt that the actions inflict in him — the thought that this teenager is so on guard around a cop that he feels the need to protect the people he loves even against their own damned father (and the added responsibility on both Hobie and Miles’ shoulders that comes from being superheroes of course. Always on guard, scanning for danger and ready to jump in at a moments notice to protect innocents. The same familiar urgency that Jeff feels every moment he’s on duty). He wishes it was different. but he gets it. One day, he vows, things will be different. He just has to keep working it until that day comes.
And yeah, they give each other a hard time about their life choices and sometimes things get tense and awkward, but at the end of the day, Jeff is a father and a damned good one and all he wants is to protect his family (even if it now includes a punk like Hobie).
Pronounced 'A-sa So-chi Ra-mir-ez' (Also goes by Sisi) - 19 - He/Him - 6'00- From 2025] ______________________________________________
Bitten by a radioactive spider during a late night walk, Asa is one of the few spiders along with Gwen, Coyotl , and Moxie, that never had anything to do with any kind of Oscrop, in fact one does not exist in any of their universes.
Asa Rameriz:
Asa is best known as hyper-indepent and extremely mothering. He takes all of the younger spiders under his wing to make sure that they have some adult in thier corner. Austic and neglected from birth, Asa was raised by Nannies until he was five years old. At that point he was enrolled in private school and decided that if he coudn't be enough for his mother, he'd be better then everyone who was. Asa was in after school activites until he was emancipated at fifteen. The two people that had the most influence on Asa were his teacher at his Dance studio, who he called āhuitl and her husband whom he called tlatli. They taught him that despite his mother's cruelty he was loved. On a walk home from the dance studio one night, Asa was bitten by a mutated Spider. He spend the first few days terrified and hiding in his ahuitl's house as his mutations appeared. When his eye marking appeared he screamed loud enough to shatter a window out of sheer panic.
His work as Arachnid begins at fifteen when saves a woman from mutant traficking and making sure that she makes it home. Asa had been training to use his powers since he got them but rarely intevened before that fateful night. The woman asks for his name so he offers Arachnid after his powers. Since then, Asa has been protecting New Yorke as Arachnid or in the papers, the Eldritch Spider of New Yorke, simply because like Batman he's never been properly caught on camera. Around sixteen years old he gets the twins, Jaya and Lucille Rameriz. The summer after Asa turns seventeen, he's chased down by a stranger that has the same powers as him. This of course is one Hobie Brown, who's been sent to recruite him to the Spider Society. To Asa Hobie is strange at first. They have completely different life and fighting styles but when Asa pins him to a wall, Hobie decides fuck yeah, that's mine now.
When Considering Asa there is one thing that is more important then everything else. Asa is a mother and that means everything to him. He's snarky and Sarcastic but compassion love and spite motivate him above all else. He loves punk music (deliah bon, nova twins, grandson, scene queen) and will always go for some rap/k-pop collabs.
[WARNING: This post is LONG AS FUCK]
Style:
Asa is a lover of punk (with a riot grrrl inspiration in it's femininity) styles and Mexican street wear. He can usually be seen in bright colors with marigolds somewhere on the outfit so that he can be assured safe passage to the afterlife. He sees dressing in mexican styles as a way of reclaming himself and his culture. All of his leather jackets have traditionally weaved fabric on the inside.
Because Asa goes back and forth from the Spider Society to their home universe, it's very common for Asa to be seen in casual clothes with one of their classic masks over their face for comforts sake. He's dressed in Mexican street wear since he's learned to sew and the society will be no different. He buys textiles from farmers in Mexico and uses those to sew his own clothes. Because Asa prefers a very fluid look, one can usually catch him in skirts while his chest is bound or pants with his tiddies out. Asa keeps his hair as long as possible and it's always in two braids with gold detailing. Gold was sacred to the Empire so Asa wears it as often as possible to the point wear all of his earring are gold or have gold on them somewhere.
His Suit:
Unlike most Spider people Asa does not wear a full mask. Instead he wears a hood and face mask a-la spoiler from Batman though his are black and gold respectively. He wears patched up black cargos from the thrift and gold painted doc martens with blue ladder laces! Once he joined the society he got a nanotech suit but always wears something under just in case and his face mask is not made from nano tech. he generally prefers wearing his non nanotech suit but some missions call for it He has knives hidden in his pockets. His spider symbol is that of a Sydney funnel web spider, spray painted on his chest in gold
Face Claim(s): Mexican Actress- Yalitza Aparicio
History & Origin:
Born in 2006 in a world mutated by the second world war, Asa is a outcast from the moment he was born. Gifted with the ability to command others to do his bidding, Asa has to be careful to never ever tell anyone what he is. It stays that way until he meets his āuhtitl. He lives in New Yorke, named to compromise with Mexica, one of the most powerful countries in the Asa's world. When Asa is Fifteen disaster strikes. The world starts cracking down harder on mutants and by sheer Necessity Arachnid is born. Arachnid fights for mutants viciously, and does not have the patience or compassion he shows as Asa. As he ages he starts protecting the sex workers and dancers of New Yorke. Being Queer himself, Asa has been going to pride since he was twelve and at fifteen, Arachnid makes his first pride appearence.
Powers and Abilities:
Asa has all the usual Spider-Powers - Strength, Speed, creepy flexibilty, super hearing spider senses, webs (his are organic) and his unique power is in his fangs. He has venom in them so they are not purely decorative . His venom is strong enough to paralyze and kill a spider-person if he injects enough. Unlike most spiders he was born with a mutation so it was a lot easier for his body to except the change. His eyes are a pupilless black (think demons in supernatural) and he has markings under his eyes (think sukuna) When Asa is angry his hair starts to float and his voice will start to sound like three voices at once.
Class: The niece of a Pole dancer, Asa is an acrobat though his secondary class is weaver. He moves through the sky at breakneck speeds, sometimes with someone on his back. He focuses on getting opponents on their own so they can string them up/use their knives.
Web-shooters: Asa's web shoots are organic and emtremely powerful. He wears braclets to make his enemies think that he needs them for shooting webs in reality he doesn't. He webs are golden, hence the gold accents on his uniform.
The Tecpatl Blade: Asa weilds two Tecpatl blades like the one below. Used for fighting in Aztec culture, the obsidian makes it extra sharp. Used for human sacrifce and by juguar warriors in aztec culture, Asa offers every kill he makes to chaos, even if he avoids killing when possible. He will attach webs to the Tecpatl blades and wields them like throwing knives, trying to slice a tendon instead of taking out an eye before lassoing it back to himself.
Asa & The Spider Society:
Recruitment:
The winter after asa turned seventeen, Asa was talking a walk when he felt someone watching him. He lashed out only to get a good fight back, a fight which he eventually won, pinning the stranger to the wall with the use of his Tecpatl. Asa was of course extremely suspicious of the Stranger calling himself Spider-punk until he realized that the stranger had fangs as well. He tests Hobie's strength and evnetually they end up at dinner together, talking about what it would look like for Asa to join the society. They talk about backstories and family, Asa's heart breaking when he realizes that Hobie doesn't really have anyone.
Asa & his Job at The Society:
Due to Asa's autism, he likes to do quiet work such as cataloging or creating something to help other members. He doesn't like how nosey some of them are. He works when his girls are at day-care but after the girls manage to get themselves to the society on their own, asa will bring the baby with him. Mirabel is his youngest, the daughter he only gained about three months before the events of ASTV. When sent on missions, Asa is usually called in for missions that require someone lethal such as a mutant that was experimented on so badly killing them would be a mercy. Asa is an S-Class Acrobat and can be seen with Gwen, training the younger acrobat to be more effective.
Asa & Hobie
They are in love your honor.
Asa and hobie are very different from a typical couple in every way you can think of They don't like labels and will refuse to use them. If you can get Hobie drunk, he calls Asa his soulmate, if only because they work in a way that doesn't make sense. Hobie has other partners (Diane and Red) but Asa and him are the closest to conventional that he'll ever get.
As in, Hobie and Asa are rasing children together. Like I said earlier, asa has children and when Hobie didn't say shit to anyone about said children, Asa told him bluntly they're going out now. Hobie loves being another mom to Asa'a daughters and the five of them have become a little family. They go on dates together, and spend time in each other's worlds, going to concerts, protests, dances, anything you can think of.
The girls love Hobie, call him mama in the same way that Asa is mami. They hold hands, try new things and Asa regularly shows hobie new pole tricks. They've learned to do each other's hair, and Hobie does Asa's hair when he can't get out of bed because of his period. Hobie didn't see Asa with his hair down until like three months into their thing because it's very much a trust thing for him. Asa has very long hair that could be used against him in a fight so he wears in a crown around his head.
When it comes to pet names, neither of them use Spanish terms. Just cause. Hobie is probably just using whatever he can think of and Asa is probably calling him something in nahuatl like Yollica, which is a mix of fight and heart.
With Asa being Demiromantic and Hobie not using labels they take it slow.
Because Asa already has children, he doesn't really get baby fever. He already has a baby and is happy to be with her on campus. Never takes her on missions. Thinks that Peter is an asshole for doing that and will not talk to him even if ordered. Hobie finds this hilarious and encourages to the point of causing actual problems. They are not paired together on missions anymore is all im gonna say
Schedule:
Asa gets up early in the morning to get his daughters ready for the day, take them to preschool and get to the society. He loves living in his own space and refuses to give that up for anyone. He has a specially made hobie watch and will teleport to his lovers dimension on the regular. Once the girls are at preschool, Asa heads to campus, makes sure everything is running properly and takes on whatever mission needs him at the time. Once he's done for the day, he goes home, gets the girls and makes dinner or pulls something out of the freezer.
Asa & ATSV:
Asa was in fact off the day of the chase. He was on his period so imagine his horror when Hobie comes to his universe begging him to come yell some sense into Miguel. Asa is horrified when he gets to Miles 42's universe because Miguel went after a child and no one told him, or even thought to call him as one of the few people who regularly beats Miguel's ass.
When he gets to the right dimension, he throws himself in front of miles, fully awar that his body can take the impact. This sets off a fight for the ages and Asa is not fighting to knock him out. He's fighting to kill because Miguel broke his number one rule. Don't go after children.
He's horrified when Miguel tries to tell him that Miles is an anomaly for that he needs to be eliminated, something that's been kept a secret from him due to his belief in not harming children. When he finds out that Miguel hurt Diane, one of his best friends, he goes insane.
Asa almost kills Miguel before Hobie gets him off and they teleport back to the boat house where Gwen is panicking because she had to see her father and was almost certain that he was going to try and kill her. Even though he didn't, she doesn't trust him one bit and doesn't want to go home. Asa has offered to let Gwen stay with her several times before and this time she accepts, burying her face in Asa's neck, sobbing her eyes out. Asa before everything else is a mother so she takes Gwen back to his universe to get her settled in.
Right after Asa has taken Gwen home, Moche appears. Asa doesn't know about this for several days because he's been helping Gwen settle in. When he learns it was Moche, and that she made his blanket, he's over there immediately kids and all. Asa adores Moche and is very protective of her and her to him because both of them have lost so much.
Asa Headcanons
Asa can sew and knit but not crochet and it drives him crazy that there's something with textiles that he can't seem to do. It's not for lack of skill, he's just bad at math
Plays the Cello and has written music to play alongside Hobie and to help his other half feel more inspired. In his universe, he wrote and published the song Turtle Island by Renee Christine.
Asa's morals are complicated. He kills because he has to, not because he relishes in violence. can and does confuse the spiders with a no kill rule because how can someone be that calm when a human being dies.
Doesn't know what his first name means and has never tried to find out, sort of hopes that there is a meaning to it but knows that his birth-giver did not care enough to do somethign like that
He's a mentor to one of my ocs, Moxie as well as Gwen. Moxie is a weaver spider and not an Acrobat like Asa so he often goes to some of the other spiders to make sure that Moxie is getting what she needs. Gwen on the other hand is an acrobat and loves learning flips and tricks from Asa
(inspired by @the-cat-and-the-birdie's diane, and Moche)
LMFAO!! What if we kissed in front of the 🔥🔥🥵🚓👮🏻♂️FLAME ENGULFED NYPD POLICE CRUISER👮🏻♂️🚓🥵🔥🔥😱😱😱😱😱👩🏾❤️💋👨🏿👩🏾❤️💋👨🏿💞💞❤️🔥❤️🔥
(a.k.a when you finally find somebody who can match your anarchy freak)
Thanks to @the-kr8tor as always!!
So happy I made it in time this week! Drawing this was SOO fun. Happy I could finally use that burning cop car BG I made six months ago lol
Remember, when you have a Spidersona, you can do whatever you want forever.
Pronounced 'Mo-Chae HWA-Pa-ya' (Also goes by Mochi) - 24 - She/Her - 4'11 - Yes, I ship her with Miguel. - From Incan Year 802 (or our 1992)
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Bitten and blessed by The Fanged Spider-God - Aia Paec, Moche is the wall-crawling protector of Cusco. Along with the likes of Pavitr and Spider-man Noir, she's a part of a small class of Spider-people blessed and empowered of Gods.
Moche Huapaya:
Moche is best described as warm and independent. She's autistic, and spent most of her childhood weaving alone, or roaming the mountainous plains around her village with her family's pack of llamas. But Moche loves people, and has always found much community in her village's temples, her Aunt Mayu a great curandera (healer).
Moche takes after her aunt, always eager to help. And she was raised by her aunt and Uncle Huacan to always serve the community, but always find strength within herself.
Advice that'd become very useful the night her village was attacked. At 15, after centuries of peace, the Spanish army invaded her country, armed with new vibranium-made weaponry.
Chased into the wilderness by Spanish soldiers, and stranded - Moche unknowingly came across Huachuma* [Hwa-chu-ma], a sacred psychedelic cactus, and ate it to avoid starvation. As she began to consume the plant, a spider crawled from the root and bit her - And as she fell under a spell of Huachuma and venom, she was faced with Aia Paec, The Fanged Spider-God.
She returned to her village as The Inca-Spider, the Avatar and vessel of Aia Paec. And she has the fangs to prove it.
For 9 years, Inca-Spider has served as the nation's protector, defending them through the intensive and ongoing war with the Spanish.
The summer after her college graduation, Moche returned from Lima to her family home Cusco. The day before returning to the city, Moche's village is faced with a strange man - almost 7 foot tall, and speaking Spanish.
And to her, Miguel is the strangest person she's ever met.
But above all else - Moche's still just a 24 year old in 1992 and she acts like it. Sarcastic but lighthearted, she likes Quechuan soap operas, Q-Pop (Quechua Pop), riding her motorcycle and surfing off the coast of Lima.
The Inca-Spider:
The Provider of Water and Protection - Aia Paec has protected the Quechua people for centuries. Considered the Decapitator, his fanged mask sits in every Inti temple.
Victorious against the first Spanish invasion, Aia Paec fell dormant - relegated to a bringer of rain. And so did the Inca-Spider. But when there is a need, Aia Paec is of service.
Compassionate but not merciful, Aia Paec submits to no one - but his community. And he considers all Quechua people as his children.
The newest living incarnation - Moche is no different.
She's the village Curandera (a indigenous healer), responsible for spiritual brews, divination, and ceremony - a tradition taught to her by Aunt Mayu. After her aunt's passing, she also went on to become a Mamacona (Sun-god Inti's temple attendant)
As a Mamacona she now lives at the Inti temple with the other 'nuns', and despite her loss, she considers her sisters as her found family. And they ALL have an opinion on Miguel. (They call him AncaApu or 'Blue Mountain' for how tall he is.)
[WARNING: This post is LONG. VERY LONG. Like..my longest so far. And very detailed.
Below are more details about Moche's Style & Design, Origin, Powers, & Other Quechua cultural details.
Plus her relationship with Miguel, her role in ATSV and her friendship with Hobie.
[There are mentions of colonization in this post - as well as how joining the Society and learning about Spanish colonization affected her.
* - There are also mentions of the ceremonial psychedelic Huachuma Cactus, which is a real and practiced Andean ceremony to this day. I personally have sat in ceremony and would love to share my experience/knowledge - for more information on these medicines - check the very bottom. Thanks!]
Style:
When Moche is in her home city of Cusco, she will often wear the traditional Quechuan style of dress - a red sweater, a black and decorated skirt, and a wide brim hat. One of the only remnants of the Spanish's attempt at colonization - Quechuans in Tawanti instead see their dress as something completely reclaimed, a reflection of their resilience and art.
And because she spends most of her time between there and Spider Society - it's almost everyday that you can find Moche in a petticoat and red sweater, made from the wool of village's llamas.
She's worn a hat and black skirt from childhood to college, and when she's back home, she has no plans of stopping.
Because of this Moche prefers skirts, and never wears pants if she can help it. Thought that became a problem walking upside down at HQ. So now she sews her own harem pants with tiered lace around them, to give the same fluffy illusion. But when it comes to skirts, she likes them any length, any fluffiness. Even black jean skirts. She's from 1992 after all.
However while on HQ, Moche likes to wear her hair out of her braids, knowing the older women at the Inti Temple would have a heart attack over it. As gold is sacred to her people, it's VERY fashionable back home, and Moche tries to wear it as much as she can.
Just the same, when not in her everyday-Quechua clothing, she'll usually be caught wearing a red-top/black-skirt combo and a hat of some sort. She feels naked without them or a little gold.
Her Suit:
Not being able to wear a skirt while swinging was one of the main thoughts Moche kept in her mind during the designing process, and the solution - lace bloomers and a waist-cape!
But unlike most Spider-people, Moche didn't make her suit at all. Aia did. Much like Miguel's, Moche's suit is a layer that manifests over her body when her web-gauntlets are on.
Aia Paec manifested the suit based on what he perceived to be Moche's needs and tastes. The foot straps were her idea though.
Moche's head-dress is directly inspired by the traditional headdress of Warrior Priests - When Moche hangs upside down, her headdress and cape forms her home flag.
And although Moche is ace - that's not a LGBTQ+ flag! It's the actual Flag of Cusco, Peru -
[Sometimes the Cusco flag is also shown without the gold emblem! And the original (Gilbert Baker) pride flag has extra colors - so how do you tell them apart? LGBTQ+ flags usually have an even number of stripes. Cusco is always odd. Good rule of thumb: LGBTQ+ = queer, but Cusco = odd.]
Though she gets questions about it on campus A LOT.
Moche also grew up wearing sandals all the time, so running around in her suit barefoot felt a little wrong to her. Instead she ties leather straps at her ankles - to help her grip when clinging to mountainsides or cliff faces.
Face Claim(s): Quechua-rapper Renata Flores
History & Origin:
Living in the Andean year 802 (1992 for us), Moche was raised in the mountains outside of Cusco, a historical, bustling city teeming with Inca culture and religion.
Tawantinsuyu (the indigenous name for Peru, Chile, Boliva, Ecuador etc) - or just Tawanti has known peace for 400 years. But when Moche is 15, her village is attacked, thrown into chaos as the Spanish unleash another war, backed with new vibranium weaponry.
Moche's Auntie Mayu urged her to flee to the mountains, taking her families herd of llamas with her. Chased into the wilderness by Spanish soldiers, Moche - once a clever navigator - found herself disoriented and stranded among the deserted hills and plains.
Facing starvation, Moche collapsed at the foot of a Huachuma Cactus - unknowing of the sacred plant teacher inside.
Begging for mercy and to live, Moche ate the cactus to survive - unknowing of the plant's ceremonial and psychedelic nature - or the spider inside.
Moche was faced with 'Aia Paec - The Decapitator' - a fanged spider-god in her religion. The protector of The Inca, Aia Paec presented Moche with her first premonition: the potential destruction of her people.
Aia then presented Moche with a choice: become the Avatar of the Spider-God - or refuse, having no recollection of the event afterwards. Either way, she'd live another day.
Moche accepted the role of Avatar, earning her fangs and web gauntlets. And she returned to her village as the Inca-Spider.
Although her Uncle Huacan died in the fight, Moche arrived in time to fend off the first of many Spanish attacks. With fangs of her own to prove her title of Avatar, she was accepted by her community with open arms, her identity as Inca-Spider open and known.
However, they do not revere her, instead seeing Moche more as a public servant than an idol.
Moche lived in her village outside of historic and sacred Cusco until she was 18, before attending college in the futuristic city of Lima - near the pacific coast.
- During the 16 century, a mine of gold near the city was found laced with Vibranium, catapulting the nation into a Wakanda-like surge of advancement.
There Moche attended the University of Lima on a musical scholarship, for her cultural flute playing. At 24, she graduated Cum Laude with a dual degree in Cultural Studies and Computer Science (she's technically still from 1992).
During this time, she learned English and Spanish.
[However she does not speak Spanish natively at all, and speaks it like any other person who learned it in college. Considering this, the history of her nation, and confusion around Spanish gendered nouns (as Quechua has none) she prefers to speak English]
Powers and Abilities:
Moche has all the usual Spider-Powers - including a pair of fangs to prove her title of avatar. However, unlike Miguel, Moche's are purely ornamental, and she'll only really flash them to other Quechua people to prove her status. They're unretractable and noticeably shorter than his.
The niece of a textile weaver, Moche is a Weaver spider - like Pavitr, she focuses on maneuvers and flips that allow her to create webs and tangles. Her web-shooters easily cocoon opponents, and Moche often uses webs as wings and gliders instead of swinging, which is more convenient in the Andean mountains.
Up-keep:
To maintain her abilities, Moche must follow a thorough moral code and spiritual regimen - including things such as divination, meditation, formal ceremony, and occasionally fasting.
One time throughout the year, Moche loses her powers. During this time she enters a period of isolation, fasting, meditation, and spiritual rest. All the while, she can only access her powers if she or her community is in direct danger, in which she has to call upon Aia.
Otherwise, during this time she reverts to an average human, and focuses on self-reflection, devotion, and mindfulness. Once she's recharged and proves to Aia her duty to her great responsibility, she regains her great powers.
This cycle usually takes 3 weeks out of the year.
Web-shooters:
Moche's Web-shooters are not mechanical or organic, but something in between.
The second mark of the Avatar is her gauntlets, two relics given to her by Aia Paec. They're magical, spawning unlimited golden webs.
However, they act like organic webs - because they spawn whenever she needs them. Moche's gauntlets can't be stolen or lost. When legitimate danger strikes, her cuffs will appear within her reach or bag immediately. Once they are on, however, they can't be taken off until the threat is dealt with or gone. Aia Paec sees fleeing as dishonorable, and so for Moche it's not an option.
The Machu Blade:
A real-life blade found at Machu Pichu, Moche weilds a golden ceremonial blade used like the one below. Used to farm Huachuma in Tawanti, she mainly uses it for farm work. The blade spawning from her gauntlet, Moche often uses it like a machete in battle - but the white of her suit will never stain with blood and the blade itself cannot pierce her. She usually combines it with her webs, throwing it over her head or swinging it at opponents before lassoing it back. Ever seen the use of the tomahawk in the movie 'Prey'? She's doing that.
[POV: You're dishonorable and with be dealt with swiftly]
Eye of the Spider -
Every battle is made equal and honorable with this ability. Moche will get visions that help her even the field in battle.
She can't see hits coming, but if the enemy is planning on doing something that is considered dishonorable in battle, Moche will get a vision in warning.
Example: If Moche gets into a fight she believes is one-on-one, but the person has a third party in hiding to ambush her, Aia will give her a vision in warning.
- If instead, the other person discloses the third party before the fight, Aia Paec would consider that an honorable move, and Moche wouldn't get a vision.
This extends to things such as concealed weapons, hidden doors/rooms, acts of cheating/slight - and if you're bluffing at Poker, she can see your cards. She can't help it, and it's technically NOT cheating. According to her. Aia took some convincing. Still that trick got her through college. Intentional lies always go noticed by her as well.
The Big Guy Upstairs
Aia Paec is considered both a provider and warrior for the Andean people. Ruthless in battle, Aia Paec is the creator god responsible for all food, water, and triumph in war.
He is about balance, honor, and respect above of things. Fortunately for Moche, he's more agreeable than say - Venom or Khonsu - and he doesn't care much for Moche's personal life or interests.
Sure, he cares about her well-being. But not her soap-ops.
However when it comes to The Inca-Spider, Aia Paec can be demanding, and he'll never let Moche walk away from a 'worthy' or justified battle. He cares little about things like pride, but if he feels like someones basic respect or rights are being encroached on, or someone is being threatened by another stronger than them, he WILL make Moche step in. Either by pestering her, or if necessary, assuming control and getting her into a fight before leaving Moche to get out of it.
('That wasn't me, I swear. God made me smack you.')
After witnessing Miguel attack Miles and assault both Gwen and Diane (while sending Gwen home), Aia Paec declares Miguel as dishonorable and compels Moche to battle him. Despite her deep care for Miguel, Moche chose to follow her oath to Aia Paec and oblige.
Moche & The Spider Society:
And the trauma of joining -
Recruitment:
The summer after her graduation, Moche returned home to her family home Cusco. The day before returning to the city, Moche's village is faced with a strange man - almost 7 foot tall, and speaking Spanish.
Moche is immediately skeptical and very suspicious of the man named Miguel - and she almost doesn't believe his story, concerned he may be a Spanish spy. That is, until she realizes that he's marked with fangs, the same way she is.
Still, he has to earn her trust. And getting her to join is no easy feat. First, she must test his honor. The test took three days, a trek to the mountains and a meeting with Huachuma cactus and Ayahuasca brew that changed Miguel's life.
Miguel passed Aia Paec's test in the Astral Plain, and so - as she'd promised - Moche joined the Spider Society, with him as her mentor.
"Integration":
To be honest, Moche's first few weeks on campus could be considered outright traumatic. However, it wasn't the Society or technology she found jarring - but the loss of her culture.
During her induction process, it had been Miguel's job to tell her about the colonization of her people - in almost all other universes.
Until this point, Moche had no understanding of Latin America, because to her - America had never become latin. Up until this point, she had only a vague idea of why Miguel spoke Spanish and not Yucatec, but it was only then that she was explained the full extent of the damage.
Quechua culture, people, and language are still VERY much alive today, with 8 million native speakers (it's actually the indigenous language in the Americas with the most speakers) - but that does not understate the massive destruction and slaughter they endured at the hands of the Spanish - even down to the murder of their last emperor - nearly 600 years before 2099.
In the multiverse, much of the culture and history Moche has been taught over her lifetime doesn't exist - the massive developments made in the last half century completely lost.
To her, the country of Peru was foreign, despite her being 'from there'. It was a very sharp shock to the senses, and Moche went through a deep period of mourning. Even moreso, she became terrified of collapsing her universe - and the only trace of her culture. Induction periods are usually spent in the dorms, and Moche spent most of her time there alone. During that time she between talking to the Lyla in her watch, and the two became close friends.
To Miguel this hardship was completely unexpected - and unintentional. A majority of his time went to rectifying this and trying to comfort Moche. Determined to avoid the trauma towards recruits in the future, Moche and Miguel directly developed The Spider Society Adjustment Course together (- in which vulnerable recruits live in a separate wing and receive services like therapy and a mix of mental health and multiversal culture courses)
It took Moche a long while to adjust - and she still is, mostly working at Society HQs in administrative roles rather than active missions. Those she is great in the field.
But she still has a LOT of problems with people constantly misrepresenting her because of her indigenous ancestry and unique universe.
"Oh! A Peruvian Spider! We love a latina queen!"
"No. I'm not Latin."
"Sorry, 'Hispanic', then?"
"No, I learned Spanish in college."
"So, then what are you? Not to be rude."
"Inca."
"Those still exist?? Or are you from like 1500 or something like Webslinger? OMG Are you from El Dorado or something?"
"El Dorado is Spanish. Also, it doesn't exist. Also no. I'm from 1992."
"That doesn't make much sense cause the Spanish-"
*Moche looking at a nearby Lyla like she's on The Office*
['There's a talking piece of fucking plastic and a sentient car here what is so mystical about an indigenous person to these people???????'] -Moche ranting to Lyla later
Moche & Her Job @ The Society:
Overall, Moche is clearheaded but a total 'Type A' personality. She loves to stay busy, consistently the only person on campus who gets up before Miguel.
She is known as a 'Class A - Weaver' Spider under Society Specifications, and is usually called for missions that include large crowds of civilians - as she's great at making cocoons and hammocks to catch people.
Recruited and mentored by Miguel, she's a graduate of the Spider Society Educational Program - with a concentration in a Multiversal Sociology and Data Input - basically learning and tracking the cultures of the incoming recruits.
After revolutionizing the Societies' computer systems with a computerized version of Quechua Quipus (an ancient information system made of strings), Moche was promoted to Third-in-command, after Miguel and Jessica.
[A Quipu for reference. Imagine the base canon event of being bit as the central string, and all other canon events/canonical paths being the outward strings. She did that but in Lyla if that makes sense.]
She also works as Miguel's '2nd assistant' - the person who does all the things Lyla can't. Like getting Miguel coffee. Or making sure he eats, reminding him to drink water. Fetching parts and physical files for him, and reminding him the details of every recruit before a meeting.
If something is going down on campus - If it involves talking to people, It's her Miguel's sending.
Moche & Miguel:
Yes. I ship them. (Also I'll write more in another post but)
Moche and Miguel aren't necessarily boyfriend and girlfriend. If you ask, they'll say they're 'seeing one another'. And then they'll quickly change the conversation because talking about relationships in the workplace in unprofessional and they're professionals (and shy).
In fact, their relationship could even be described as Non-conventional because they're extremely conventional.
As in, Moche and Miguel operate like a pair of 1950's teenagers that are 'going steady'. If anything, their relationship is a lot closer to 'courting' than dating.
Whereas Diane and Hobie hardly ever go on dates, Miguel and Moche go on dinner dates a LOT. Usually accompanied by flowers and Miguel having to drop her off at the temple after. (He has to bring something gentlemanly or else the older Mamaconas are NOT letting her out).
The two of them had to build up to holding hands before they ever kissed - if that gives you a better idea of what I mean. Before she fully joined the society, Miguel was almost embarrassed when he walked in on her and for the first time she wasn't wearing her braids - as if that were an intimate thing to see.
He apologized profusely. She apologized profusely, telling him it was okay. Aia Paec was annoyed with the both of them.
When it comes to pet names, neither use Spanish terms. Just cause. The first time he called her 'mi amor' Moche was probably caught off guard a little.
Instead, they may call each other 'Chata', 'Muna', and 'Wayllu' or any other number of shortened Quechua terms. They also usually say I love you in Quechua, which is simply 'Kuyayki.'
[Chata -> Chatashka - Lover / Muna -> Munashka - Darling / Wayllu -> Wayllushka - Beloved]
Miguel's most common name for her is 'Cuy' or Guinea, which Moche HATES. In Quechua, 'Cuy' means Guinea pig. The Spanish were known for bringing over beef and cattle, and as a result for her, beef is hardly eaten in Tawanti. Instead, eating and raising Guinea Pig is more common (as is common in Peru).
Moche was raised eating cuy. Miguel has never eaten it in his life. Considering cuy LOOKS like a fried guinea pig, he can't really take the thought.
But back at her village, Moche was raised breeding and taking care of the cuy. Miguel finds them kind of adorable, and what's even more adorable is Moche looking after them. And since she's fairly small compared to him - he calls her Cuy.
To many people - on campus - this is cute. To Miguel it's like calling her bunny or mouse. But to the people in her village, and probably the whole country, it's hilarious. To them cuy are not pets - It's like calling your girlfriend a chicken or turkey and expecting it to be romantic. Which he does. Her telling him to stop usually results in him kissing the side of the head (and doing it again). She'll usually call him AncuApu in return.
With Miguel's past loss and Moche's traditional upbringing, the two enjoy taking it slow. Like really slow. And since both of them are A-spec (Moche ace and Miguel demi) their relationship is mostly to completely romantic and emotional.
Moche's only interest in sex is starting a family one day. And Miguel is fine with that. It wasn't something they really talked or thought about.
UNTIL Mayday. Having her around campus, has given Moche baby fever. And even if she's not running to jump in bed, she can't stop saying how much she LOVES Mayday's chunky cheeks and little arms and curly hair and-
So when Jess got pregnant - It's like, okay - when's the other baby shoe dropping? Jess is like 'We twinning? Just kidding..We twinning though???'
Instead they spend their time eating in downtown Lima (they're foodies), watching Quechua soaps (she got him hooked), or organizing things for the Society. Although those sound like old people married couple stuff, they LOVE it.
The two of them see each other as rocks in the other's lives, but more than that, the two of them are most focused on feeling each other out, learning each other, and hopefully starting a future together.
[Lol just wait till you get to the ATSV section - PAIN]
Oh - and while Miguel's test Moche met Gabby face to face while the two of them were in Ayahuasca ceremony - and she was able to deliver a message from her to Miguel. But that's a long story.
Schedule:
Moche still lives back home in her village in Tawantinsuyu, taking over a lot of the spiritual and mundane needs of the village. She wakes up at dawn, tending to the llamas and spiritual herbs in the morning before heading to campus. After, she'll spend her 8-10 hours on Society Campus before returning home to bring in the animals and watchover the community during the night.
It's usual for the other Mamaconas (temple assistants) to wait for her portal in the yard, and start talking her ear off right away. But by now, it's normalized. So long as she's not late or anything.
Moche & ATSV:
Moche does not join in on the chase - being physically unable to. Aia Paec declares the act as dishonorable, restricting her movement and 'forcing' her to hang back. She instead heads to the control room to aid Margo and update her on the situation.
When the Go-Home Machine began to go 'haywire', her 'Eye of the Spider' ability allows her to see Miles as soon as he steps in the room. However, Moche chooses not to acknowledge him at Aia Paec's order. Aia Paec also restricts her vocal chords at the time, making it impossible for her to rat Miles out - though she wouldn't either way.
Watching as Miguel assaults Gwen - and then Diane, who comes to her defense - Moche is completely shocked. And although she tries to calm him down - Miguel refuses to hear it.
So Aia compelled her, and she agreed. But terrified of fighting Miguel, Moche made the decision to let Aia Paec assume complete control for the first time - total possession. As Miguel ordered the rest of the Society to scour the multiverse - Aia Paec openly challenged him, citing him as no longer honorable and worthy of the fanged title. And although he is in Moche's body, he will not allow Miguel to go unchecked.
However as the fight stretched on, Moche's emotional state - mixed with the fear of seeing Miguel aggressive beyond her understanding - renders her unable to maintain the connection, weakening Aia's efforts. And the fight ends with Miguel almost badly wounding Moche after Aia refuses to relent.
Aia releases Moche just in time, so she can see Miguel's abuse and dishonorable behavior for herself. Terrified, she comes to with Miguel standing over her, and for the first time Moche finds herself frozen in fear - and she begged him not to wound her further.
Finally coming to the weight of his actions, Miguel however, is horrified. But before he can attempt an apology, Aia Paec resumed control, using the chance to escape through a portal.
However, understanding that her watch would be disabled from this point on - instead of her home universe, a wounded Moche finds herself of the bow of a boat she's never seen.
Hobie's boathouse. Moche may not know him, or Diane, or even Gwen that well. But Aia Paec knows she'll be of use to them. So here she is.
RANDOM HEADCANONS about Moche:
[We're almost done I PROMISE - not really lol]
When needed her suit can spawn a manta (called a Lliklla in Quechua).
It's a woven cloth worn over the shoulders to carry babies or literally anything else you need to. That's her 'suit purse'.
She will also carry children she rescued in her manta. Or just give them rides around Cusco.
Moche's best friend is Lyla - and she feels a little embarrassed by this. She has to keep telling herself that Lyla is real, she's just not human. Still, kinda weird being from 1992.
But they are very close and have discussed things about if Lyla is real or can feel and stuff - and to Moche it's very clear she can.
Moche is very hard to upset. She's rather calm, and usually expresses sadness more than anger. But for Spider-people that say Lyla isn't real or that she's not sentient -
Moche gets VERY upset very quickly. The both of them find it hurtful and Moche will not talk to you after if you say that. She will immediately leave the room to go be alone.
Being autistic, it can be daunting to make friends though Moche is friendly. She finds talking to Lyla a lot easier, plus Lyla is always in her watch.
Some of the chillest memories Moche has is hanging out with Miguel and Lyla in his office, listening to Spanish music and Q-pop and cracking jokes.
(Miguel can take a joke I promise and he's funny as hell. He tells the jokes that have you like 'damn he got my ass'.)
It usually turns into her and Miguel roasting each other playfully as Lyla keeps score.
Miguel doesn't understand how an AI HE MADE could like Moche MORE.
Because of this, losing access to her watch (and thus Lyla) after ATSV - combined with barely knowing anyone on the houseboat besides maybe Peter, Moche finds herself a bit lonely.
Mentioned by Miguel, Moche became a mentor herself.
She's Pavitr's mentor. When he joined, her and Aia were a large part of redesigning his suit to what it is today.
Since they share a swinging style, she trains him and he's her star pupil.
Pavitr can get really competitive though, and she often has to reel him in when he gets REALLY into it -
Like screaming at the top of his lungs during 4wallFootball or wanting to race people EVERYWHERE.
Pavi is also taller than her. She didn't notice until he brought it up because he's SO PROUD he's found 'someone to be short with'.
She prefers she/her when it's about her specifically - and they/them when referencing IncaSpider, as she considers her and Aia as two people, not one.
Another subtle mark of the Avatar, Moche's eyes glows gold/yellow in the darkness, similar to a cat's - a sign of her Spider-eyes and Aia's presence.
This feature also reduces the amount of glare Moche sees, a very needed thing in the sunny Andes mountains.
Because it can get so sunny and bright during the day, it's hell on earth for Miguel. Sunglasses all day.
But it's the altitude sickness that gets him. He's superhuman but still feels out of breath. And NO amount of chewing coca leaves is enough to help.
So now 4'11 Moche has to baby and look after this nauseous GIANT because she said 'I know a place' then started walking them up a mountain
Moche is a very talented musician and musician - exceptionally so - with a focus on indigenous music
She is a master pan-flute player - and currently one of the only women to reach such status.
Traditionally considered a 'man's instrument' - Moche was taught by her Uncle Huacan for her to aid in traditional ceremony.
As a Mamacona and Curandera she also knows traditional dance, and loves all other kinds of dancing too.
Moche was the first female flute player to be accepted into her universities Musical Program.
She also plays acoustic guitar (and the first time she saw Hobie swinging his she was like 'What's wrong with you??') and occasionally sings.
And she makes her own music - though it's not what most people expect.
Moche writes mainly Inca-rap and 'Runagae' - a blend of Runasimi (literally 'The people's language') and Reggae.
She's is from 1992 after all.
Runagae takes large influence from Reggae drums and rhythm, mixing it with traditional Andean instruments like flutes and percussion.
Like an indigenous version of Reggaeton and Rap.
Runagae is often in many languages, primarily Quechua, Aymara, and Yucatec - as well a indigenous languages from the Caribbean.
Miguel is a sleeper fan.
Don't ask what they're listening to - cause Miguel is gonna tell you some obscure ass Runagae rapper from Lake Titicaca
That's because Tawantisuyu is extremely multilingual.
Many because of the half dozen indigenous ethnic groups in the country.
Quechua and Aymara are the two primary languages - with Yucatec being a secondary language, and English an 'international' language.
Yucatec is usually taught in the place of what people usually take as Spanish. This is largely because of Tawanti's close ties to the Aztec Nation of Maya to the north.
Most people know in the cities know their local indigenous languages, as well as secondary Yucatec or English.
In fact less than 1% of people in Tawanti speak any kind of Spanish
Without colonization, Spanish lacks much of it's global influence and many people are surprised to hear Miguel speak it.
He gets questions about both parts of his name there.
Many Tawantins say his Spanish accent in Quechua is hard to understand, or 'unique'.
Miguel Quechua is good enough that he can probably get around without much help, but if he has to talk to someone more than five minutes he's gonna need Moche there.
'Excuse me, he said no pickles.'
One thing she loves just as much as music is her motorcycle.
You're not getting to the highlands with a sedan. Sorry. If you wanna make your way out of Cusco and to her village, you're better off with a bike.
And she rides hers from Lima back to Cusco every chance she gets - the ride shortened to only 6 hours.
The only thing-
Miguel looks ridiculous on the back of her bike. He's HUGE. Everytime he gets on the bike dips down.
And she goes "MI, YOU'RE HUGE."
The first time Miguel really thought she was gonna let him drive.
That might've been the first time in her life she's laughed in ANYONE'S face.
And considering their drastic height difference, she was looking UP and laughing in his face.
Though, as a motorcycle owner himself back in Neuva York, they just got Jess to teach them how to ride through portals.
The other Manaconas LOVE it when Miguel rides through on his bike. He gets a lot of squeals.
But not from Moche.
The two of love racing each other, or just riding together, and that's the biggest way they relieve stress. Just riding through the mountains and streets.
Their first kiss happened after a night of riding their cycles in Nueva York.
Moche kissed him (they were sitting next to each other - otherwise he's too tall)
And she immediately was like 'UH I HAVE TO GO. RIGHT NOW. I HAVE TO GO HOME.'
Considering she kissed a guy 8 years older than her AND HER BOSS
And of course Lyla was easedropping on all this.
To shocked to tell her it's alright, Moche takes off back to 802 before he can say anything.
As soon as she gets through the portal, Lyla is like 'OOOOOOHH, you've really done it now!' - 'Don't tell Jess.' - 'I already told Jess.' - 'Lyla, It JUST happened.' - 'She has her notifications on~'
MEANWHILE Lyla is talking to Miguel back at HQ and they're like 'Lyla, Did you se-' - 'I did.' - 'She-' - 'Uh-huh.' - '...' - 'Do you want me to play your 'too-many-emotions' playlist? - '...Yes.'
Miguel was the first to say I love you - story for another time
Prior to appearing on his boat, Moche had barely spoken to Hobie or Diane - though she knew who they were.
She honestly thought the two of them were literally crazy. She understands VERY little of what they do or how they act.
On one hand, Moche needs things to be very blunt, and is more fact minded. That's why her and Miguel get along.
On the other, Hobie is very cryptic and good at concealing things - everything he does having an extra layer of context.
Moche can't read that context AT ALL - and because Hobie isn't being dishonorable, only a weirdo, her power doesn't help.
But that combined with Hobie's accent, Moche can barely follow a conversation with him without saying "Elaborate." ten thousand times.
Or just flat out saying "What are you talking about?" - "Hobie, You're not making any sense." - or - "You're speaking gibberish right now."
His elaborations never help.
There's been many times in the past that Miguel and her have had conversations about his mysterious ways after he leaves the room.
'I swear, I'll never understand him.' - 'I've stopped trying.' - 'I don't think he wants to be understood.' - 'That's usually called being a pain in the ass.'
Though Hobie respects her on the whole 'Indigenous God Vessel' thing - but he's even more interested in Aia Paec.
He LOVES annoying him, knowing that Aia can't directly reply and that Moche is caught in between.
Sometimes though it gets to the point of Aia Paec consuming control to tell him some choice words.
Hobie loves this.
Though it isn't until Moche sees the workshop of his boathouse that her purpose with the team is revealed
Because of her work at The Society, her and Hobie work closely together on things like new watches and other multiverse technology.
After he realized that Moche had lost her best friend in Lyla, Hobie made it his mission to become her friend no matter what
And he finds they really grow through their love of music and composing. You might find it surprising, but Hobie doens't just play music - he KNOWS it
Scales, Majors & Minors, Tempo, the history behind classic composers, blues artists, everything
So even if they don't really listen to the same music, they talk about music like it's a science, how a key change can really give a song emotion, different kinds of singing the singer uses - etc
He's successful - and although they're basically opposites in every way, somehow Moche thinks he's an absolute goofball - plus he helps her get out of her shell more.
He's without a doubt her second best friend - after Lyla (Mayday is her third.)
Hobie completely understands why she may not get his jokes all the time and never looks him in the eye, he's super chill about it.
Eventually the two of them learn how to reactive her watch, and using the old parts, Hobie made Moche a new one with her own separate Lyla, with her old memories and all.
Their reunion was REALLY EMOTIONAL. They're literal bffs4ever.
Tawantins (citizens of Tawanti) don't call Moche Spider-woman
Instead, she's is usually called the AwaqMasi or simply Masi - Quechua for 'Weaver's Assistant'
In this case, Aia Paec is the Weaver - and Moche is considered the assistant.
Because of this, she's usually treated like a public servant - someone spiritual hired to do a job - rather than a 'chosen one'.
This extends to Miguel as well - if his fangs are showing. Which sucks, considering he's fairly clueless in her world.
Often, Tawantins who see his fangs will almost start ordering him around, expecting him to help. Like telling him to take the animals out, though he's never touched a llama in his life and doesn't know the difference from an alpaca.
Good thing his can retract and he can get out of it. Moche is very jealous.
Often for them to get in somewhere, like needing a place to sleep during travel, they'll be lengthy conversation in Quechua with someone before she turns to him and goes "Show the fangs."
Usually, that's enough.
People know Moche and Aia. They're not novel.
But when people see MIGUEL, a huge new fanged being, they treat him like he's a newborn on his first day home.
Moche often has to tell them he's 'empty-headed', as in he lacks a patron God.
Miguel always has to ask if she has to say it that way (she doesn't lol)
[LMAO I had to add a break here so tumblr wouldn't mess up the post formatting]
Now however, Tawantins know about Miguel, and 'Spider-man'.
Although the same way her people don't call her 'Spider-woman', they don't call Miguel 'Spider-man' either. In fact, they don't associate him with spiders at all.
Most Tawantins would identify him as a jaguar - a sacred animal in Andean culture
This is mainly because of the way Miguel's fangs, claws, the way he runs, and his long leaps.
Because of this, the hero 'Spider-man' is called Runa-utu-runcu, though they usually just say Runarun.
A 'Runa' is an indigenous person, and a 'UtuRuncu' is a jaguar - so the same way Moche & Aia are seen as a spirit and a human -
Most Twantins see Miguel as something akin to a werewolf. Or werecat rather.
They believe he is a man who turns into a spiritual 'panther' of sorts.
Which Moche finds hilarious. The head of Spider-Society getting called a cat? Genius.
When Jess told Moche that Gwen called Miguel 'Garfield' - another orange cat - she laughed until she was in tears.
Because of this, Moche will call him 'Runcu' as a way of calling him 'jaguar' - the same way MJ says 'tiger'.
She also calls him Garfield and makes cat jokes about him.
"His webs are red lasers so he can entertain himself like the housecat he is."
Tawanti is a communist nation - much of the culture based on the traditional Incan 'commune-like' village.
Miguel was astonished to find that if they flash people their fangs, they'll just - invite them in. They're happy to have them.
Because of the vibranium-laced gold found near Lima in the 1800's, the country is a large player in world politics and economy.
And citizens can enjoy things like basic income, rent-controlled housing, free university, and more.
Thanks to the vibranium, Lima is very 'Wakanda-like' in essence and New York in everything else.
The average Quechua woman is 5'0", and Moche is just under that at 4'11. Her and Miguel have a 22 inch height difference - almost 2 feet.
This she is fine with. What she ISN'T fine with us people making it out to be a HER thing.
'Awww you look so short next to him-' No, Moche INSISTS, she's average. He's just fucking gigantic.
He barely fits doorways in Tawanti. The village had to weave him new clothes cause nothing they had fit.
With Diane at 5'11" (6'4'' in skates) and Hobie at 6'5", Diane WISHES they had a height gap. And she hates it if you say they're the same height.
(Hobie always tells her they're the same height. No, we're not, She says while being almost exactly at eye level with him)
Meanwhile, Moche and Miguel are the opposite.
They'll look at you like it's bizarre you noticed, because well... It's not that they get anything out of it. Other than maybe neck pain.
It's not like Miguel finds her 'more cute' because she's 'small'. And if anything it's kinda annoying.
Especially when Moche is mad at him - so she makes him sit down during an argument so it's fair.
If you bring it up or say something like "Awww, he makes you look so tiny!'
She's likely to say "I know, he's a freak of nature isn't he?"
Or going further "He makes everyone look tiny. He's 6'9". Back home, you can see him from a block away. People crowd around him. Honestly it's kinda hard taking him in public-"
This is usually enough to get Miguel chuckling, as he loves a good roasting. Though he's the type to burst out laughing and then clear his throat, immediately try to hold it in.
They love roasting each other.
Just the same, Hobie towers over her as well - with an 18 inch height difference.
Moche speaks Spanish with a noticeable accent, and often drops certain parts of sentences on 'accident'.
Quechua doesn't have separate pronouns for genders - however both English and Spanish do. And in addition, Spanish genders objects as well. Which is very confusing for her.
She often leave out 'el' and 'la' in a sentence - but congregations are terrible for her, so she usually just switchs back to English.
However Miguel has spent enough time with her in Lima for her to mash Spanish and Quechua - usually for his sake and not hers.
Because of this, she prefers speaking English on campus.
Most of the time her and Miguel speak English to each other, or more recently, Quechua. But if they'd like their conversation private or are on a team with other Spanish-speaking Spider-people, then they'll use Spanish.
She still hangs with a lot of Latino community on campus, though she can't relate to a lot of cuisine, culture, or slang. And she's very close with all the Indigenous spiders.
When Aia Paec assumes control of Moche, a gold neon-like mask flashes dimmly over her face - in the emblem of Aia's face.
Because of her circumstance and her role as Avatar of The Decapitator, Moche is apart of the small number is Spider-people known to kill. She sees nothing wrong with this and finds it weird if someone does.
Aia's reasoning? He'd been killing long before the first Spider-man came to the first Earth, and he'll keep doing it after if need be.
Aia will immediately braid Moche's hair if it's unbraided and cover her head with a hat or cloth as soon as he gets the chance to - and this is a good indicator of when he's the one more present in the moment.
After work Miguel would often come to her universe, for Moche to teach him Quechua. He's almost conversational at it - thought they can't get through a lesson without the other Mamaconas whispering and giggling.
Her and Miguels favorite part-time though is slow dancing, which they usually talk during. It's relaxing and REALLY funny, considering Moche has to reach ALL THE WAY UP to even touch his shoulder. (4'11" and 6'9" is a sight to see)
They're the couple that always disappears to hang out together. Homebodies basically.
Miguel genuinely draws crowds in Tawanti. He's often a foot and a half taller than everyone - plus he's jacked. Seeing a mountain of a man who can't speak a lick of Quechua following their Protector around always gets stares.
In her country, people will often be outright shocked he speaks Spanish - often approaching him in Yucatec, the second largest language in Tawanti.
Moche's name comes from a culture that predates The Inca Empire - The Moche
Aia Paec (or Ai Apaec), the Fanged Spider-God is the Creator of The Moche people, so I saw it fit that Aia-Paec created my Moche - and IncaSpider as well
Moche - capital of the Moche people - is also a place in Peru to this day, in the province of Trujillo.
Because Andean art is typically related to pottery and textile, her universe is largely unstylized.
AIA PAEC ALMIGHTY WE MADE IT.
If you genuinely read this far THANK YOU SO MUCH. It genuinely does mean a lot to me. For me, I have never seen Quechua culture represented - anywhere. I've never seen a Quechua - or Incan - or Peruvian hero, so why not make one!
I hope I was able to share some of that culture with you and you found any of it interesting or new.
In this post I mentioned Huachuma Cactus (and Ayahuasca) and their ceremonial uses - and below is more information I'd like to offer for those curious. If not, no sweat!
THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN and as a Quechua-decedent and a follower of indigenous religion - I will always try my best to answer any questions.
Here's a picture of Miguel. You can imagine Moche standing in front of him - in this photo you would be able to see her anyway lol. (I checked)
Bye.
NOW LET'S GET INTO THE NERDY STUFF -
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[ I am a Quechua decent as well as a follower of these practices. I personally have gone through ceremonies with plant medicines in the past and hope to dispel some misconceptions ]
DISCLAIMER: Huachuma and Ayahuasca are NOT closed practices - anyone can sit in ceremony regardless of religion or ancestry - as long as they are siting with the intention of spiritual growth or self help. And even today these plants are used in treatment of addiction, abuse, and mental illness.
These plants are NOT drugs. They are medicines are should be treated as such. Trust me. Huachuma and Ayahuasca trips aren't fun and they aren't supposed to be. They are made for healing.
ALSO - I am a practitioner of Andean Spirituality and Ancestor Worship. Although Aia Paec isn't apart of my practice - everything stated below IS. Please treat it with kindness, and do not call it things like a myth or cult or something.
These are sacred practices we are hoping to share with the world to promote mental healing. Please be respectful (ya'll always are) and thank you so much.
Huachuma Cactus / Ayahuasca & Plant Medicine:
[Hwa-Chew-Ma / Eye-ya-hwa-sca]
[Raw Huachuma Cactus and Ayahuasca Root]
Often called San Pedro Cactus - after the Spanish Saint - Huachuma Cactus is a vital part of Andean spirituality.
Huachuma & Ayahuasca are two of the most revered plant medicines - known for inducing extended psychedelic trips. However, these trips are not similar to LSD or Acid.
Used for literal centuries Huachuma Cactus & Ayahuasca Vine have been taken (separately or consecutively) through a bitter brew of medicinal plants.
[Ayahuasca above. Shit tastes GNARLY. Ayahuasca like coffee and licorice - Huachuma like Nickelodeon Slime. Huachuma is thicker and green.]
Huachuma & Ayahusaca is usually reserved for those within the practice - or those facing deep trauma, mental illness, or something to internally heal from. Huachuma and Ayahusaca are specifically used to bring buried emotions and memories to the surface - as well as a feeling of euphoric self-compassion - in a safe and sacred space in order to help the person grow mentally.
Huachuma & Ayahusaca trips are not pretty - and often involve sobbing, vomiting, and painful memories. Diarrhea too. These trips are not meant to be recreational, but psychological treatment.
These ceremonies require a large group of Curanderos - indigenous healers as well as trained mental health professionals. Many Plant Medicine ceremonies have a trained therapist or psychologist throughout the stay - and a long integration process to reflect and heal.
And while this might sound out there, recent science is showing the profound effects of Plant Medicine - and that Ayahuasca directly impacts many parts of the brain extremely positively.
Now, scientists have gleaned deep insights of their own by monitoring the brain on DMT, or dimethyltryptamine, the psychedelic compound found in Psychotria viridis, the flowering shrub that is mashed up and boiled in the Amazonian drink, ayahuasca.
The recordings reveal a profound impact across the brain, particularly in areas that are highly evolved in humans and instrumental in planning, language, memory, complex decision-making and imagination. The regions from which we conjure reality become hyperconnected, with communication more chaotic, fluid and flexible.
[Source: The Guardian - also as for the first line in the article, people DO NOT have near-death experiences while in proper Ayahuasca ceremony - just listen to the medical stuff cause wtf]
Spirits & Plant Medicine:
[Left: Raw Huachuma Cactus - Right: A Curandero setting the Mesa (the red tablecloth in this case). You can see the jar of Huachuma (or Ayahuasca it looks like Aya in this case) in his right hand, as well as a cigarette. The smoke is blown into the brew to kinda 'wake up the spirits'. Being from the Andes - tobacco and coca leaves are traditionally used in ceremony a lot.
The table is covered with other offerings to the gods, stones to represent mountain spirits, and a number of other things used in the ceremony.]
I cannot stress this enough - In Andean practice, we believe each plant has a particular spirit associated with it. Like a fully-formed deity. And ceremony is often approached as if you were meeting someone you respected.
Often in ceremony, people may see and speak directly to these spirits. (Which is true in my experience but not everyone.)
Because Huachuma and Ayahuasca often go hand-in-hand, they are often referred to as the Grandfather (Huachuma) and the Grandmother (Ayahuasca - also called Mama Aya for short).
And we genuinely believe that the way you approach ceremony, your intentions, and your willingness to heal directly affects the way the Spirit will treat you or deal with you, but it is never in a malicious way.
The Grandfather - Huachuma is considered tamer, more milder - one of the reasons I chose Huachuma instead of Ayahuasca in this case.
Huachuma is centered on personal peace and emotion. While on it, your emotions are amplified, you feel a deeper connection to the Earth. But you also throw up too usually. The drink is grosss. (Sorry Grandpa)
Trips last 6-8 hours, but affects can linger for 14-18. Unlike Aya, Huachuma induces less visuals or 'trippiness', but a state of thoughtfulness - bordering joyful meditation. (As these do have neurological connections to the effects of long-term meditation.)
Huachuma can be consumed raw, or served as a drink. [I believe I was given a mixture of raw cactus, agave, and water. You're told to CHUG IT because it thickens a lot in like a minute and gets gross.]
That's largely why I chose Huachuma for Moche to experience first instead of Ayahuasca.
The Grandmother or Maya Aya is much more forthcoming and intense, and her work is centered more of personal healing and self reflection - and Ayahuasca is more akin to a 'trip'.
Typically, a trip lasts 8-12 hours and is taken overnight and sundown. Trips include things such as psychedelic visuals, flashbacks (and yeah, if I'm being honest, everyone I have sat in ceremony with regardless of religion reported a feeling of being close with the Source, God, family whathaveyou. So, the sensation of being elsewhere. In a way. I experienced this too and the feeling is very vivid. Of course what you experience is very personal to you.
While on Ayahuasca you may experience nausea, and the visuals, memories, and emotions make it useless to really move around. You're a lot more in it than Huachuma. Essentially you take it, you set your intentions, you sit in the dark, and let Mama Aya 'work on you'.
Which is why I chose to put Miguel through an Ayahuasca ceremony at their meeting. [Mwah haha Miguel You WILL heal]
Ayahuasca vine cannot be consumed raw, and is a lengthy brewing process with a number of plants known to Curanderos.
Plant Medicine & Ancestors:
Both plants are also associated by many with Ancestral (or divine) contact, and/or visuals of past lives. Which is what drove the inspiration to have Moche partake in a ceremony.
MY EXPERIENCE: - in short - just incase someone is curious -
I've personally sat in official ceremony three times, in which I meet with Mama Aya twice, before meeting the Grandfather the day after.
(Basically I drank Ayahuasca for two night and Huachuma on the third day as apart of the integration process.)
The traditions were done in a ceremonial space with a Curandera & Curandero of Peruvian tradition - as well as multiple mental health professionals.
Preparation for ceremony often takes days or weeks - and one is expected to focus on mindfulness and self-kindness all that days leading up to it. (As much as possible, as many Non-Andeans who go into ceremony usually do so for addiction, depression, mental illness, or a number of things).
In my ceremonies - The ceremony and the people I connected with there are pivotal to my path and life so far. Despite meeting people from literally anywhere, it was also one of the most trans-affirming spaces I have ever been in - which is saying a lot as a New Yorker.
Each ceremony was hard, with the second night of Ayahuasca being the most emotionally and visually intense. This was amplified be the ceremonial music. Thankfully, however I didn't get too much physical side effects. I don't even think I barfed the second night. Big win!
In all Ayahuasca helped me have a way deeper understanding of myself and my wants and it helped me gain closure on a situation I'd been struggling with for years.
My experience with Huachuma was more milder and calmer, although my emotions were hyper-sensitive as were my senses - which is why it's VERY important to do ceremony in a container (a safe space with professionals on stand-by)
The Huachuma ceremony was conducted outside during the day. Because you are more lucid and emotionally calm while under Huachuma, it was encouraged for us to be present in nature and move and walk around.
In all Huachuma helped me to focus more on compassion and was able to form deep bonds with the people around me in a shorter time. I was more present and rather than psychedelic visions, my surroundings were more vibrant and intense but in a comfortable way.
Overall, Ayahuasca and Huachuma are deeply sacred, deeply interesting plant medicines that have shaped Andean spirituality for centuries.
They are not typical 'drugs'. They are medicines and should be treated as such. (aka As prescribed, while under the watch of someone trained and understanding.)
So uhhhh yeah. That's a lot that's a lot lol
But if you made it this far THANK YOU SO SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME and giving me a chance to share this culture with others!! 💚
I hope you learned something from this little section here, as I genuinely hold the Grandparents dear and found my ceremonies exceptionally healing.
If you have any questions, let me know! Oh and if you really made it this far - uhhhhhhh QUESTION:
You can choose TWO people from ATSV to protect you - everyone else will try to jump you. Who you picking?
{I just wanna know if anyone got down here also the question is funny as hell - I'm picking Hobie and Miguel. But....they would bicker and probably get me killed. Oops. Maybe Hobie and Pavitr. Pavi has GREAT luck. So far. }
If your fav white character can have godhood status without anyone objecting and having to prove themself then so can characters of color.
If your fav white character can one shot somebody then so can characters of color.
If your fav white character can be angry then so can characters of color.
If your fav white character can be the savior then so can characters of color.
If your fav white character can be loved unconditionally THEN SO CAN CHARACTERS OF COLOR.
Y’all constantly want characters of color to struggle and that’s a problem. They can never just exist. They can never be powerful just because. They can’t be anything without y’all questioning why they have the right to be that way. It’s racism. Point blank period. Constantly questioning why marginalized characters aren’t struggling, why they get to show off their powers and just be is racist. The fact y’all don’t hesitate to do it either makes it even more obvious. Like what do you mean Storm not struggling does a disservice to marginalized characters??? Or that Hazel despite being super powerful doesn’t deserve to be in the seven??? Or that Bree is annoying when she is a grieving 16 year old???? What do you mean by that??????
One day Gwen in scrolling Tiktok with Diane over her shoulder and they come across one of her tiktoks like the 'Who is the Bimbo? What is a bimbo?' one
two hours later Hobie catches Diane and Gwen sitting there like
[gwens like girl can i have my phone please]
and Hobie's like 'wut r u doing' and Diane is like 'STUDYING!!!!'
Like one of the reasons Diane is so fine with doing the whole groupie thing is that growing up in the Panther House, her aunt was the leader, but just because the young men in the group respected her aunt, that didn't mean they respected Diane - even the opposite.
A lot of pressure was put on her and because she could rise to the 'intellectual independent tough focused girl' in the Chapter, most of the older dudes she grew up calling 'brotha' kinda saw her as ditzy but at most helpful, but never a threat or like - a smart person with smart ideas and strategies for protest.
so it was easy for her to fly under the radar and sneak out to discotheques
but she was fine with this UNTIL she got powers. And when she got her powers, she was VERY happy to hide them like 'fuck yall I'mma go save people my own way'. (Even though she loves them)
Seeing them praise DiscoSpider then turn around and treat her like she's dumb was a smug kinda hell
So Bimbotik took would make her cry cause she's like 'SHE GETS IT!!! I'm NOT a groupie for the male misogynistic gaze!!!!'
And of course Hobie is proud because yes SPIT ON THE PATRIARCHY
But then Diane one day goes 'I'd kill to kiss her on the lips. But I'm not gay so I cant'
And Hobie realized Diane has yet to figure out her own apparent queerness
she hears Head Bitch and she's like
HOBIE of all people explaining that YES Fem x fem is a sapphic thing that happens and now Diane has something totally new to consider about herself
okay heres the fucking thing about this script controversy that some people don't seem to get.
just gonna say it blatently:
strap in babes this is gonna be a long one!
The way Miguel O'Hara is written in the leaked transcripts is blatantly racist, here's why from a Latino himself!
all wrapped up in a sweet little bow for everyone who doesn't know how to comprehend what they're reading, cheers!
er. i mean.
¡Salud!
Miguel fans are not mad that they depicted him in a bad light and that they made it clear that he is in the wrong
WE FUCKING KNOW. WE'RE NOT STUPID.
Miguel has been depicted as a morally grey asshole since the early 1990s, which is when Spider-Man 2099 was initially debuted. And while yes, the movies are.... inaccurate, to say the least, it still stands.
The issue here is how he is depicted. They directly call Miguel O'Hara, a Latino man, an ANIMAL (he is directly called an animal TWICE. FUCKING TWICE.)
[1st image id: Miguel leaps onto Vulture, Clawing his way in past the renaissance armor. he is an ANIMAL. (keep in mind ANIMAL is literally in all caps.) /end id]
[2nd image id: Miguel SLASHES at the walls of light that surround Miles. Clawing the energy field apart, an animal in the throes of bloodlust -- /end id]
I need you to really soak in the fact that he is called "AN ANIMAL" twice. I'm awful at alts and ids but I feel I must so you can read it in plain text. sorry if they suck.
Our issue is not that the writers seem to have a bias against the character. a lot of writers write characters they dont particularly like and in turn tend to write them from a foggy lense of their own perception. An example would be Kate Cary and how she didn't like Crowfeather, a character she had to write about. I'm sure some of her bias seeped through. but this is different.
writing a Latino man as a bloodthirsty animal, implied to be called a predator because they call one of the people he fights (im not sure if its miles or the vulture, im leaning towards believing the former.) his "prey", THOSE ARE ALL RACIAL STEREOTYPES. ALL OF THEM.
[3rd image id: But Miguel can only see his prey: /end id]
There is no context to be needed here, the context is that this is miguel we're talking about and that they call him an animal. it does not matter if he is a villain or not (which he isnt, factually he fucking isnt im tired of having this conversation, fuck you). it matters that he's depicted in a racially insensitive way.
and this person brought this up pretty well actually, I didn't even think of it:
[4th image id: Tumblr user @/404-505 saying:
i want to be so mean to them
they couldn't write miguel crossing the border and stealing a job so they wrote him crossing into another universe and stealing his own identity
they couldnt write miguel as a drug addict so they gave him spider steroids instead /end id.]
They bring up a really good point about these clear stereotypes being seemingly. . . disguised behind points that are narratively relevant? This could literally just be pure coincidence, but noting how the writers wrote him before... it isn't looking too good for them. Sorry. Not sorry.
It is clear that there is some kind of bias against miguel that led to really disgusting, racist retoric. Whether or not it was intentional or if it was a first draft or whatever, the writers, which may i remind you were white, still wrote this at some point.
it makes me question whether or not they hated him because of his "bullshit utopia", their words not mine, or because of their own racial biases.
We cannot know because miguel is the only mexican character on the cast. I know Miles is Puerto Rican, but there are differences between how they were portrayed. also Puerto Ricans and Mexicans come from competely different cultural backgrounds that share simularities but are still different dont even try i will destroy you.
Using another users words again, but:
[5th image id: Tumblr user @/transmiguelohara says:
Don't talk to me about the Miguel parts in the script. I'm so disappointed in how the writers view him.
The difference between the way Miguel is written (antagonist, not the villain) vs Spot (the villain, whats to kill Miles' dad and everyone he knows) is soooo.....I don't know man it just screams racism in sorry. Describing Miguel as a bloodthirsty animal? Repeatedly? Treating him like he's mindless and has no motivation beyond having a hair trigger temper? It sucks man. /end id]
It also strikes me that now that we finally have a brown-skinned miguel, they write him like, well. this.
I don't really know if this is petty or not, but I want to wrap this back to the way the fandom also sees Movie Miguel.
Because TRUST ME it is not good either.
Miguel O'Hara Vs. FANDOM: Spoilers, it's been troubling since the beginning.
From the beginning (and by beginning in this case I mean since he was announced to be a character in this movie) Miguel has been continuously sexualized, beyond belief. He is repeatedly called "papi cholo" which NEED I REMIND YOU "Cholo" is a derogatory term used to call someone, usually a mexican person, a criminal or a delinquent.
FUCK YOU if you are not Latino OR hispanic and use this to describe people. from the bottom of my heart.
I'm pretty sure the majority of the people who called/ still currently call him "papi cholo" are mixing it up with "papi chulo" (white people moment.) which means something completely different but is still troubling as hell.
"papi chulo", which is slightly different in the way, just directly translates to "big daddy". Which again, Latino men being overly sexual "Latin Lovers" is ALSO A RACIAL STEREOTYPE. also its just blatant fetishization. Point blank fucking period.
Not only that but I notice a lot of art and fanfiction depicts him doing a lot of violence, or being very overbearing and demeaning, or in short terms.
a lot of people write him as physically and sexually aggressive.
fuck do you mean he growls during sex i can and will send you to space with no return.
which
for the millionth time
racial stereotype
halleluiah or however you spell it.
Having him say random spanish phrases you don't know the meaning or connotations of in your fanfiction is icing on the cake at this point.
fucking end me.
it isn't even only sexual depictions, since he's been shown in the movie, a lot of people seem to just see him as this guy who goes off and tries to kill children at a hairs trigger. which uh. fun fact no he fucking doesnt.
you clearly didn't watch the movie as well as you thought you did. hes just sarcastic and generally pretty level headed through the majority of his runtime, whether its implied by how characters around him act, or its just what we see on screen.
He doesn't necessarily have anger issues, the moment we see at the climax of the film is quite literally a mental break. he is not acting in a way that he usually would because he was cracking under the stress of holding the multiverse together with some scotch tape and orange glitter glue.
Also side tangent but he also has a mental break in the comics that's a little more... droopy and sad as compared to the movie, but it still happens. he has shitty mental health is what im saying. he only really lashes out angrily when hes at his wits end because that's how he grew up. he was taught to suppress his feelings and seem smaller when he was upset.
he is the result of abuse and neglect. of course he wouldn't be amazing at emotional regulation.
Which before anyone says it no, this is not an excuse for his actions. just an explaination that isn't "hes an angry animal that has it out for miles UwU" that everyone seems to have in their brain. I'm tired of you all. truly.
the sentiment that hes agressive and angry and his only emotion is anger and upsetness unless he's horny which is when he experiences all these emotions tenfold is. racist. idk how clear i have to be for people to get it through their damn skulls that the way the fandom depicts him is harmful. do i need to slap you in the face with a fish until you understand. do i need to burn your fanfiction. will you get it now that a 15 year old latino boy has to scream it in your face.
and dont even get me STARED on how inaccurately he is written
this is a more light hearted section because idk. feels like i should have it because this part is just comical, pun intended. How can you fuck up this hard guys.
I was gonna give them the benefit of the doubt because "Miguel has fresh trauma!" "He only shows up for like 10 minutes!" "insert 3rd reason!" for his drastic change in demeanor and personality, which, without context, are valid reasons for him to be a little different. trauma fucks you up man. we only see 10 minutes of him. but at this point im chalking it up to complete incompetence
it doesnt take that long to read a comic book guys. you could have done a little research, I know you can do it.
first off:
[6th image id: Miguel's SPIDER-SENSE goes off! He races to the edge if the building and peers into an empty alley -- /end id]
LMFAO WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN "SPIDER-SENSE"
Unless you didn't get the total of TWO jokes that they made in ONE scene (the vulture fight scene), Miguel doesn't have a spider sense. at all. He has elevated senses, but he doesnt have a spider sense.
guys
guys.
you made TWO jokes IN A ROW about it. YOU WHACKED HIM IN THE HEAD TWICE WITH IT. HOW DID YOU FORGET
I cant help but laugh! this is a rookie mistake! these are seasoned writers! They could have done at least a little research, or at least remembered that he doesnt have one, no? is it that hard? or does his lack of a spider sense only matter when you're making fun of your least favorite character? thats what I thought.
this one is less funny. not to sound like a stereotypical comic nerd but this infuriated me a little bit I'm not gonna lie.
[8th image id: tumblr user @/darksidecorner reblogged tumblr user @/spiderxpawz with:
They definitely didn't
a screenshot of the script reads:
AN INDUSTRIAL TANGLE OF HUGE PISTONS -- the literal DARK UNDERBELLY that undergrids Miguel's bullshit Utopia.
Miles doesn't know where to go... but he doesn't need to: SOMEONE YANKS him up into the safety of an alcove.
the user then continues:
This in particular made me PISSED because they quietly canonized that Miguel is CEO of Alchemax while conveniently ignoring that he did everything in his fucking power to BETTER Neuva York. Downtown wasn't built by him. It was built by people WAY before him.
I can excuse and defend some comic deviation, but THIS? Holy FUCK /end id]
I honestly cant tell if I find this part funny or pathetic because seriously. he did not do this. why are you blaming him for something he had nothing to do with. i dont think he decided "hey i should build a city for rich people over poor people because reasons" when he was like... not even alive. Alchemax did this before he was even sentient. it had always been this way since he was born. he also actively hated this decision. because he actively hates alchemax.
but right MIGUELS bullshit Utopia yeah HE did this that EVIL LITTLE BABY i cant believe him
kill me.
In conclusion:
I. . . Don't really know, to be honest. I'm still processing all this. I am genuinely disappointed and upset because this isn't okay. It never will be, and if it takes yet another blunt essay with absolutely no filter for people to understand it then so be it. I don't care if this comes off as mean. This is something I feel qualified to talk about and I will express my disappointment and anger if I want to.
All of the posts I reference I have reblogged within the last 24 hours of making this post, they shouldn't be that hard to find, but if you want the links to them here they are:
1. This is a really really good breakdown, and I'm so glad you made it! I'm sorry you're tired, get some rest my friend.
2. Tysm for using my thing! I'm honored that you felt my post was good enough to help explain your issues with it.
3. I'm making my own post on this, specifically some word vomit about what this could mean for the future of the character. I'm gonna add a section for people to follow if they want more about Comic Miguel. Would you like to be one of them?
Pairing: hobie brown x Asa Rameriz (kinda they are weird together tbh)
warning(s): none
Summery: The go home machine spits hobie out in one of his friends universe’s only for him to find…
Initially, he isn’t all that sure where the machine spits his out. He knows it’s a room, either a nursery or a bedroom, and that it looks well loved. The room is painted a soft blue, and there’s a fluffy white rug on the floor. All of the furniture is a neat matte black color, with carvings of flowers, vines and unfamiliar symbols as decoration. All of the furniture is ever so slightly worn, well taken care of and loved. There’s a crib against one wall, and a bunk bed set against another wall. The room is ever so slightly messy, but in a comfortable, well lived way.
When a sharp cry, a cry so loud that it sounds like it’s directly in his ear, pierces the air, he ducks out of habit, knives out, scanning the room for any threats. He stands back up looking all over the room to find the source of the noise but in a sudden moment, before even his spider sense can warn him, he’s up against a wall, completely stuck. The cold metal of a knife, held by one of his close friends, rests against his neck, pricking him ever so slightly.
“Hey calm your shit,” he says jokingly, because he figures that this is probably just a prank, when he really takes in Asa. He’s barefoot, dressed in a neat black dress with a white apron on top, and he’s shaking so badly that even the knife trembles.
“Hey love,” he says, ignoring the senses that scream danger, that scream threat, “it’s me,” he says, gentle as he knows how, “it’s just me.” Asa’s shaking seems to calm enough for recognition to enter his somehow brown eyes.
He takes the knife away and somehow he’s still stuck. Asa reaches past him, pulls a knife out of the wall, absolutely apologetic. He pulls out three more and suddenly he can move again. He turns to the wall, realizes that in a second, Asa pinned him to the wall with knives. He’s pretty fucking impressed.
“I’m so sorry Hobie,” He says, bustling over to the crib and pulling out a fucking baby. “It’s just with the kids being home and the stuff that the news has been saying, well, long story sort, I haven't been sleeping and I guess that’s made me more then a little paranoid.” Paranoid, he thinks as Asa checks him over while holding the baby, is not the correct fucking word. Paranoid is for people that are not terrifying and could kill him. He knew there was a reason that he’s friends with Asa.
“Would you like something to eat?” Asa asks politely, rocking the baby back and forth, bouncing it softly. “Is that your..” he trails off, asking without saying anything at all. It’s not that he carers, he’s just curious. “In a sense, she’s my baby sister, her name is Mirabel.” He looks at the baby, the baby who looks almost exactly like Asa. the door opens again and two children rush in, one of them screaming, “Ma!” Asa raises an eyebrow and the child quiets, repeats, “Ma, Luci hit me.”
Asa with an ease that reminds him of the way his mother used to be, strong and gentle at the same time, picks up the upset child and asks, “What happened in the lead up to the hit?” The other child makes an upset noise, silenced by a quick look.
The first child begins to speak, “I was playing and Luci hit me.” Asa raises an eyebrow, hands him a baby,and while adjusting his grip for him, picks up the other child. Look, he knows that being a spider means you’re strong, but there’s something about seeing the way that Asa handles his strength, never fussing or even raising his voice, reminds him why he still works with the society, for the people. “Alright Luci, your turn to tell your side of the story.”
“I was trying to read and Jaya was yelling and I was trying to signal but she wasn’t listening and I lashed out.” See Hobie knows Asa, knows his sharp cruelty and willingness to kill, just like he knows the Asa that works with the new recruits and helps them through their first days with a calm gentleness. This Asa isn’t either of the Asa’s, this one looks quiet and kind, patient.
“Jaya, were you yelling mi demonio?” The child with a more complicated braid in their hair nods, and Asa makes a soft sighing sound. “Okay because neither of you were paying attention to each other I want you to go and practice your signals, deal?” Both of the kids nod and Asa sets them, watching as they run off.
Suddenly he knows how Asa manages to run teams so effectively, because he’s just using the same tactics he uses for young children on teenagers and adults.
“Sorry about them,” Asa says lightly, “We’re working on effective communication right now.” He takes the baby back, and turns away, heading out of the room like he’s expecting Hobie to follow. He shrugs because he’s kind of curious anyways, and heads down the hall after them. The hallway is lightly colored, littered with photos, all with a label in Asa’s slanted writing. The hallway spills into a bright kitchen, with yellow cabinets, white handles and books everywhere. Asa himself is standing at the stove, baby on his back, a spicy scent filling the air.
“I’m just reheating some tamales, take a seat at the table.” He sits, taking off his shoes because he knows that Asa hates the idea of shoes in the house with a violent, burning, passion and he doesn’t want to die today.
“Does anyone at the society know about them?” He asks, watching the way Asa stiffens and sighs. The baby on Asa’s back, Mirabel, giggles at him, reaching out. “No. you’re the only one right now. I’m thinking about telling Diane but I’m scared. I will not lose my children.” He thinks of everything that he has lost, and everything he’d do to protect them if he could.
“I won’t tell anyone, I promise.” Asa turns to him and his posture is loose, and calm. “Thank you so much Hobie, you can’t understand what they mean to me.” He can because he remembers the loss, pain, grief, love, that is family.
“Don’t worry about it luv, now give me some of those tamales.”
I think it’s so fucking cool. I’m a metaphorical and actual slut for different accents and dialects because I think etymology is probably the coolest sciences out there. I don’t know whose idea it was to have hobie speak Road-man slang, but they need a raise. and a promotion. and the noble prize. Spotlighting a dialect thats so fucking rich in history? Highlighting a language that 99.99% of people watching ATSV have never heard of before the introduction of Hobie’s character??? It warms my cold, jaded heart ♥️ AND THEN THEY GIVE HIM THIS NORTHEN/COCKEY ACCENT? Istg i was vibrating in my chair at the theater. For those who are unaware, its very uncommon (and can probably still be considered rare) so find characters with non-southern english accents. It’s one of the reasons Chicken Run was so “revolutionary”, because it embraced underrepresented English culture. That’s what we’re getting here with hobie, but in a far more in-your-face way. And i love that.
