W.R. is undoubtedly my favorite asteroid in astrology, simply because of the insanely potent energy it holds. I would even dare to say that it is within the same ranks as our favorite astrological beasts - Pluto, Lilith, Uranus, Neptune.
Personally, I would describe W.R. as a mix of Pluto and Neptune.
Whiterabbit represents: being drawn into something; finding oneself in a strange, possibly dangerous situation; life-transforming events; fascination; danger; sea-changes, and, yes, drug abuse.
Whiterabbit rules dangerous fascination. It is our darkest intrigues, the kind of curiosity that got the cat killed, a deeply alluring yet eerie energy. It describes where we can get pulled down and lost into a rabbit hole, where we are addicted. It is the thing for which you will walk in places you normally wouldn't go with a gun, that's the kind of pull Whiterabbit has on you.
¿ Whiterabbit dominants ¿
(W.R. conjunct personal planets, MC, ASC, IC..)
- these natives are extremely mesmerizing. they are lethaly persuasive and have a way of drawing people in.
- their world is always at least a little dangerous, and they can never be fully understood. they seek surreal experiences, and may therefore dabble in the use of drugs.
- they may prefer hallucinogens, and even deliriants, something that can give them a truly otherworldly experience.
- they may be fascinated with creepy aspects of life, horror, cognitohazards, mysteries.
- those with W.R. strongly aspecting their ascendant have an uncanny valley beauty, a dangerous, almost addictive quality to their charm.
- they may have obsessions, strong fascinations (different depending on the house and sign)
- they tend to transform other's lives tremendously (for better or worse), and constantly bring life-altering changes to the people in their life, as well as themselves.
- W.R. is prominents in the charts of pornstars and dictators, which is an amusing combination, but a real pattern nonetheless.
◇ Whiterabbit in synastry ◇
- when W.R. is highly prominent in the synastry, you will feel an irresistable pull to them. it does not have to be romantic or sexual, you can even despise their guts, but if your W.R. is conjuncting their personal planets or angles, you will be drawn in and need them like an addict needs their fix. for the charm of the white rabbit energy to be resisted, there needs to be significant self-mastery and personal understanding of the energy, which is why natives with prominent natal W.R. are better at recognizing that magnetic pull when they encounter it, and bending it in their own favour. they are better equipped to handle such intense energy because they've been dealing with it their whole life.
Feel free to comment your experiences, or perhaps some characters you headcannon as having prominent Whiterabbit energy. Here's mine:
( Mads in general has such a W.R. dom appearance and mannerisms. Wouldnt be surprised to find it aspecting his ascendant.)
This is a cry for help, my dad tried k*lling me with a butcher knife. But hopefully I was able to save myself. I need to collect funds to move away as I have nobody to rely on.
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By far, my favorite. Intense, transcendal, deep. It goes beyond the physical and mental, reaches straight into your soul. The sexual tension is palpable, and at the same time it feels like home.
( do note that i have pluto influencing my ic and moon so your and my idea of 'home' might be a bit different ♡ lmao )
Moon in 8th house:
- absolute favorite. the connection runs deep, if you let it. when you meet this person you will know pretty early on that the potentional for intense bonding is immense. for every person i met with this, after a while i look in their eyes and think 'we could absolutely ruin eachother in the best way possible'.
- the sexual tension breaches the physical and turns almost emotional. like, 'i want to fuck you so hard that you cry' type shit. of course, every 8th house connection has some kind of sexual electricity constantly present, but i've found that w this placement, it's .. profound.
- so far , i've only been the house person, and i've found that the way the moon person looks at me is like nothing i've seen before. i mean, the eye contact being intense is a given w any 8th overlay but w this one it's ... wow. it's a simultaneous pleading to 'come closer, enter my world, feel my essence' and a threat to 'stay away, you see to far into me, you know too much'.
- it's obsessive. on my side (house) at least. by obsessive i mean ... obsessive. one of them is a crush that i haven't been able to put out for a fucking year, even with no contact. in fact, funnily enough, when i thought i was totally over it, all it took was to see her again and make eye contact - immediately, i was thrown for a loop. we didn't even exchange words directly, it was a group setting .. but the eye contact was absolutely enough. crazy.
- as the house person, i feel like the moon person can feel that i see straight through them. another thing i've noticed is that the moon person usually seems a little intimidated/nervous around me, especially at first.
- the thing with this overlay is that it can get hard to take real action on the connection because it's anything but lighthearted. you can clearly tell that if you pursue it, it's gonna get deep and that can range from inconvenient to uncomfortable, or even scary for someone who's not used to 8th house/pluto/scorpio energy.
Lilith in 8th house
- the sexual tension. is. insane. i'm talking .. concerning. i've had this w a friend, a guy who's not my type in the slightest (and i dont really like guys in general, mind you), but there's this kind of ... sexual energy in the air. like, we're not gonna do anything about it, but it's there. and it's not even physical, for me at least - i dont find him attractive physically its just .. a compulsive feeling.
- now, when i have it w someone i actually find attractive, even a little bit, it gets scaled up to the extreme. the moment i see this person, i'm immediately attracted to them. instant. they don't even have to be my type, but if they are - my god, if they are ...
- i am usually lilith in this overlay, and i often find myself wanting to corrupt the house person, to pull them into my dark erotic world. this synastry really brings out my lilith energy even more.
- as lilith i love teasing the house person & i want to see them squirm. i wanna dominate them & see them fall apart beneath me (in the best way possible)
- this is very much a 'i can ruin them' type connection (not in a malicious way)
- i automatically feel confident around this person, no matter if i felt insecure the rest of the day; its like the house person awakens my dark feminine energy just w their presence (and thats a damn good feeling)
Sun & Mercury in 8th house
- honestly this ones interesting; if your connection is platonic, it wont add weird undertones, if its not , it will heighten the attraction significantly.
- it will be really easy and satisfying to talk about your secrets, your past, your traumas, your pain, as well as your kinks, sexual preferences & sexual experiences w this person.
- you will be able to tell this person the naked, blunt truth about them to their face, and vice versa, esp eith mercury in 8th overlay
sun conjunct lilith
- i was lilith and its .. fun. sun brings out my 'bad' side. the fun one.
- as lilith, i find sun really cute, and i try to figure them out, cause i feel like they arent really as naive & innocent as they seem to be.
- sun may be a little scared of lilith here. :)
pluto conjunct lilith
- i have yet to experience this but from what i've heard i love, love, love .
- think bonnie n clyde, mr and mrs smith. they can appreciate eachothers shadow and its very exciting
- hearsay says the sex is mindblowing but i cant confirm or deny
pluto conjunct ascendant
- my mothers pluto is conjunct my ascendant and she literally fucked me up royally soo be careful w this one yall
- pluto will try to control the ascendant and have power over them
- pluto tries to control ascendants behavior, appearance, mannerisms, social etiquett, even food intake sometimes
- i have never seen this be a healthy dynamic but i would love to be proven wrong
lilith square ascendant
every time a man's lilith squares my ascendant, an angel dies. i swear to fucking god, this synastry is a hot, headache-inducing mess.
now, ive only ever had this with men so take it w a grain of salt.
whenever a mans lilith squared my ascendant, the situation was the same:
he had a crush, and then there was .. me. he loved one girl, truly, but had an intense, weird, sexual obsession with me (that often scared him).
he was extremely attracted to me, but reluctant to admit it directly. wanted to 'tame' me, make me 'well-behaved'. we argued at least once within 24h of knowing eachother.
heavy sexual tension, but in a irritating, conflicting way. reallyy intense eye contact, but almost forbidden.
they all, at some point, iced me out in one way or another, deliberately avoided me, seemingly for no reason.
lilith in 7th house
this ones weird.
- we kinda have beef, but not really
- we either completely agree with eachother or utterly disagree
- mixed feelings
- switching between liking and disliking eachother
tw for various mentions of abuse and death as well as mental problems, sh and su!cide, also needles (dont ask)
- may have experienced a lot of death in thr family or in the close neighborhood
- feel more connected to your dead relatives than your alive ones
- there mightve been a death in your family before you were born
- feeling peacful in graveyards
- may have fantasized about death/su!cide, might percieve death as something that brings peace (hence the fantasies, because really all you ever wanted was peace)
- wanting peace but knowing you cannot have it because of your nature; feeling like theres just something in your blood in your soul that is uncontrollable and overwhelming
- your household was always a house , never a home
- being raised by very old people, enjoying the presence of much older wiser people (like, literal elders not hot teachers 💀)
- enduring literal psychological warfare in your home (usual your mother waged war on you as soon as you were old enough to form a coherent critical thought)
- "I hate you, dont leave me" (might be the attitude of your mother towards you, or yours towards others you love)
- Your mother always knew when you were lying or hiding something. Especially if she had a scorpio moon or moon/pluto aspects herself. You grew up extremely fearful of her.
- moon pluto culture is hearing your mother talk lovingly about her own fucked up mother, she never accepted the severity of her own abuse, until of course she needs to use it in an argument against you "Im a great mother, my mother was so much worse"(basically Im good because I abuse you differently than I was abused 😍 same shit different package)
- not liking motherly women or women who try to be mother figures to you, feeling uncomofortable around them; youre uncomfortable with how much you crave motherly love and people who can provide you that become threats because of the power they could have over you if you opened up
- being betrayed by the women in your life, especially those who were much older and supposed to take care of you (teachers, tutors, family members, therapists, babysitters..)
- toxic female friends 😁🔫 bonus : really close but toxic female friendships in youth that feel like death when you end them even though you know it was necessary
- feeling pain so deeply you think you will drop dead or have a heart attack. (When I was little and depressed I wrote in a diary of mine "My body will kill me before I get to")
more on this : when you start crying because of immense emotional pain and suddenly your heart is burning and beating too fast and youre getting light headed and throwing up , and suddenly youre not crying because of the pain, youre crying because youre afraid youre about to have a heart attack and die
- fearing that your mother will k word herself or you if you try to leave her (harsh aspects mostly)
- learning what emotional violence is very early, how to wield it and defend against it
- turning your emotions off completely for a while and then having a nervous breakdown when it all rushes back
- reading up on psychology, psychiatry and works of psychotherapists so you can heal and never become your mother
- wanting to put a bullet in your head when you notice yourself thinking or behaving like your mother
- going home after you spent time somewhere where you felt good and safe is extremely dreadful
- your mother doesnt see you as a human being (harsh aspects especially), and may take you a while to figure this out
- extremely controlling behavior from your mother or other caretakers (for example my mother threatened to send people to stalk me when I moved to a diff city, to 'make sure Im not doing something bad')
- deeply grieving the loss of your childhood and your inner child
- almost choking while crying or passing out
- feeling like youre a horrible person and dont deserve your family [because youre in deep denial and are seeing the flaws of your family as your own and denying your own trauma]
- learning about sex early on, perhaps early sexual obsession but not like promiscuity more like craving for deep intimacy (also you were probably deeply ashamed of it)
- not telling your family (esp mother) anything because they will ruin it for you
- being accused of being a psychopath, uncaring, selfish for "not loving your family enough"
- not knowing how to feel about the members of your family that played a more passive role in your life because they didnt do anything wrong but they didnt do anything right either; surely they knew , why didnt they stop it? why didnt they save you? (Im talking about adults obviously)
- your parents mightve been much older when you were born, you might have siblings much older than you
- doing anything to avoid your intense emotions and then when you break down and feel everything you realize how freeing it is and how comfortable you actually are with the intensity
- gutteral reactions to songs you deeply relate to (I hear 10 seconds of 'Slipping through my fingers' and I am dead on the floor)
- being afraid of your mother or just of your family in general
- you could probably kill someone with your bare hands if you were angry and hurt enough
- scary as fuck when you actually show your anger
- if you cry in the midst of a fight (verbal or physical) ... someone tell that person to make peace w God . cause thats you crying because of what youre about to do, because thats you loosing the last crumb of humanity you had for them and that can only end one way.
- you would probably kill for your loved ones
- your friends feel like you would help them hide a body (and you probably would)
- recognizing people by footsteps and breathing patterns (especially family members)
- deep deep eyes, people can see war and death them, and they feel like you see their pain too (because you do)
- reading people easily
- enjoying? cruelty (to yourself or others), like getting impulses to do something that would cause you or someone else that ugly feeling of facing cruelty
- finding comfort in the cold and the dark
- insane nightmares since youth, growing to be used to them
- its very hard to shock you
- you know when someones lying
- you might dread certain types of pain yet feel pleasure from them (personally I hate having my blood taken for a test but then I end up immensely enjoying the feeling of a needle pricking my skin and going deep into my vein)
- feeling the need to "kill" some your habits; most likely to drop things cold turkey and be extremely strict in breaking bad habits
- might enjoy really dark, emotionally and morally complex media
- immediately recognizing other moon pluto people and trauma bonding
- extremely good pain endurance. not necessarily tolerance , but endurance. you feel the pain and do it anyway.
- might not react to physical pain at all from a young age
- fantasies about drowning or slipping away peacfully
- either loving deep waters or hating them
- randomly breaking down in the middle of the day because of some pain you buried 5 years ago
- might self harm a lot because of your complex relationship w pain, it genuinely helps sometimes
- home feels like literal prison
- seeing the value in suffering, you might reject the idea that suffering is bad and should be avoided and prevented at all costs
- you might become religious as you mature (but usually in your own way, not necessarily according to tradition)
- forced to eat or denied food in your home, this mightve fucked up your relationship with food
And lastly, I need you to engrave this in yourself :
Unpopular opinion : Quincunx/Inconjunct should be considered a major placement because of how intense and powerful it is. The only reason its put in the same basket as minor placements is because its very misunderstood
(negative aspects to Pluto, Neptune, Saturn, Chiron, Uranus and Lilith)
- being delusional or people being delusional about you (went into spiritual psychosis once in an unrequieted love situation, also had a guy convinced his love for me was requieted after I explicitly told him I didnt like him *twice* and then having him tell me "How do you know you wont like me in a few years?")
- either not giving a fuck at all or being completely insanely jelaous
- staying single for a while and pretending youre 'focusing on yourself' but really youre just scared of getting hurt
- alternatively, never being single and using relationships to fill a void
- craving love and intimacy but fearing the possible pain and betrayal
- obsessive crushes
- being very beautiful and magnetic but thinking the opposite of yourself
- people living in your head rent free, or living in peoples heads rent free
- loyal to your own demise, probably
- weird kinks ngl
- having stalkers 🫶 and to take this a step further for the especially crazy babes, having a stalker and wishing it was your crush instead of some creepy random
- might romanticize abuse and dangerous situations bc you dont know any better
- possibly confused about your sexuality
- not being able to tell between romantic and platonic feelings
- obsessed with romance (whether its shows in your actions or not)
- self esteem issues
- feeling like youre unlovable
- situationships (esp for venus/uranus ppl)
- commitment issues, attachment issues, every single insecure attachment or possible relationship blockage in the book ...
Personal experiences w having heavy lilith influence
- Older people being creepy subtly or overtly, but usually subtly with certain looks or touches or comments, especially strangers in public or distant family friends
- Being told Im scary or intimidating, or that I look mean (a girl once told me she thought I wouldnt want to hang out w her and her friends because I looked 'too pretty and kinda mean') [this is esp w lilith/asc harsh aspects]
- Lilith square asc culture is walking into a room a little pissed or in a hurry and everyone shutting up (also works for mars/pluto)
- Now Ive never heard anyone else talking about this but as a lilithian woman Ive always been disgusted by the idea of having sex with a man because in our culture a woman who has sex w a man is seen as having been dominated and degraded by him ("I fucked her" "I hit that" "I scored") also the act itself is very power struggle-ish like no *I* want to bend over a man and make him suck *my* dick
- Being hyperaware of people looking at you (even if youre dressed extremely modestly or without makeup)
- Lilith/moon aspects 🤝 your mom making inappropriate comments about you and your body
- Lilith/sun aspects 🤝 your father insulting you or making weird comments (more subtle w soft aspects so you might brush it off but its still not okay girl)
- People thinking youre flirting with them or others (esp men) but youre just hot and talking, and you cant help that ppl have strong reactions to anything you say really
- Loving eye contact <3 (w the right people)
- Lilith square saturn culture is not being afraid to stand up to authority <3 and having to quite often because they have a pick on you and try to tear you down
- also w lilith square/opposite saturn grown ass adults will have beef w you when youre a kid, esp those w authority over you like teachers, coaches etc
- Lilith/asc harsh aspects and overthinking whether a fit is too revealing or not (because you dont want to get harassed and looked at again) (but then youll grt harassed even if you go out in a priests suit so 🤩)
- People (esp men) trying to use you for sex
- Always being the one guys want to be friends w benefits with while theyre crushing on another girl
- "I dont like what you do to me" - most men Ive interacted with for a while
- A guy told me he liked me for who I am but he couldnt stand "the effect I have on him"
- lilith in 4th house culture is attracting men w mommy issues and being looked at by guys in relationships
- lilith/mercury and needing to know all your friends bdsm test results
- People liking when youre mean 2 them
- People who hate you often want to have sex w you
- Ive had so many guys in my class literally have to gather up courage to talk 2 me, even for basic things like asking me to help w something, they approach me looking all tense and worked up like Ill slice their head off for asking me to help them with their math lmao
- A classmate (and friend, apparently) of my friend once didnt want to come out and meet me when I went to my friends school to give her something because she thought Id beat her up (for context I found out she said some nasty things to my friend and was not happy about it)
- Being told by ppl (esp men) that I remind them of characters who are villains
- People esp girls not liking me for no reason or being rude
- Guys in relationships being extremely cold and rude to me or even shittalking me to their gfs (you can guess why)
- People trying to 'put you in your place'
- Recognizing other lilithians immediately
- Being insecure about your private parts, your body in general and your appearance
Random personal experiences w my placements and aspects
Neptune in 6th house
- random hallucinations throughout the day?? I go around wondering if the fly I hear buzzing around in my room is real or not cause Im prone to little hallucinations like that or in worse cases hearing footsteps and knocking
- so much daydreaming. id pay someone to make me stop because the thing is I dont even want to but its affecting me negatively
- almost constantly tempted to do something that could be considered an addictive behavior (for example Im a lil bored and suddenly a pack of cigarettes sounds yummy)
- anxiety 🫶 about the stupidest, tiniest things throughout the day. I dont stress before life changing finals and exams,,, I do however wonder if today is the day that I die in a car accident because I didnt feel like putting my seatbelt on in a usually empty area.
- randomly dissociating
Chiron in 6th
- every day is pain 😁
- beating myself up for not being productive and then not doing anything about it
- pathological demand avoidance
Gemini moon
- my brain cannot and will not relax ever
- reading. so much reading and processing except instead of reading Dostoyevsky its usually either reading up about my astro placements or indulging in an extremely long ao3 fic
- need to always be listening to or reading something. like yeah let me listen to someone analyze societal issues and contemplate life in a 1h video essay while I brush my teeth and make breakfast
- videos on 1.5x. Yall need to talk faster (I <3 ppl who talk fast naturally)
- vividly hearing other peoples voices in my head. 💀 not like theyre talking to *me*, just as if some people whose voices I recognize are having a convo and I hear it, except theyre *not there* and the convo doeent make sense . Its not a hallucination tho I can tell its in my mind but its still very weird and distracting esp when Im trying to sleep or concentrate
- ranting to my imaginary friend whos actually kinda conscious ngl might even be a tulpa at this point
I go by Yefimiya and I have an intense hyperfixation w astrology (as you may notice from my 200+ liked posts) so I made this acc to browse info about it on here and occasionally post my own experiences as well.
About me, Im pluto and lilith dominant with lots of mercurian and uranian influence (its giving insanity 😍), as well as some saturn, mars and neptune here and there (usually where they shouldnt be).
