What are your thoughts on harley? Bc a lot of people question if Vinnie feelings for Charley are really genuine bc of what happened.
I actually like Harley a lot and thought she was a great character ( I feel like for a show thatâs target audience was little boys, the writers did a great job of creating badass female characters with their own objectives )
Although itâs not stated by how many years, Harley is canonically a bit older than Vinnie, and âOnce Upon a Time on Marsâ places him at about 18 during its events ( he is canonically 21 when he and the bros first land on earth and meet Charley ). He is young and eager to please and anxious to make a good impression. He catches Harleyâs eye, and he develops a strong crush on her.
I donât think what Vinnie and Harley had was love. Their time together was too short for it to really grow into anything, and it was based more on a mutual physical attraction ( notice how many times Harley refers to Vinnieâs looks, and how Vinnie reacts to the idea of her seeing his mutilated face ).
While Harley was probably the first girl he felt a really strong connection to and still wants to make Mace pay for kidnapping her, heâs written as is he has moved on and doesnât expect to ever find her. In the episode where Charley takes Vinnieâs wallet, there is a brief moment where we see a flash of it open on the floor and there are some pictures of other female mice in there. I doubt he would have those if his heart was still set on Harley.
I know a lot of people donât consider much of the 2006 series canon because it directly contradicts much of the original series, but when Harley returns she has to literally brainwash Vinnie to keep him by her side- he doesnât go with her willingly. And itâs literally Charley being in danger and screaming that snaps him out of his brainwash fog long enough to rescue them both. The episode was definitely meant to tie up the loose ends of what happened to Harley. And while the episode ends with the question of whether or not she died, either way there is the realization she canât be with Vinnie, for many reasons. Itâs bittersweet, but at least it closes that chapter.
Do I think Vinnie is projecting old feelings for Harley onto Charley? No, I donât. He probably sees some similarities between the two, but it ends there. Whereas the attraction between Harley and Vinnie was mutual from the get-go, it definitely doesnât start out that way with Charley, who either rebuffs him or has a quick and sharp retort for his egocentric self-compliments. With Harley ( and probably the other girls heâs chased ) he easily won them over with his bravado and attractiveness. With Charley he has to earn her affections, and itâs his loyalty to his friends and noble heart that wins her over. Likewise, over-time his attitude towards her shifts from just being a conquest to win favor from to someone he feels strongly for and wants to protect. He also probably fears âfailingâ Charley the same way he probably feels he failed Harley ( think of how he reacted when he was in that jail cell when Limburger made threats towards Charley ).
Also, Vinnie was visibly crushed in âBack to Marsâ when he realized it meant leaving Charley behind and possibly never seeing her again.
I realize this went on pretty long, but to cut to the chase, I donât think Vinnie is projecting old feelings for Harley onto Charley. Harley is a chapter of his life that is closed, and their relationship was built on physical attraction and they werenât together long enough for it to develop into something more. With Charley, Vinnie has to earn her affections, and their feelings for one another grow naturally over the course of time and make their bond stronger.
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