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When you add $22 to your order so you get free shipping bc you don't want to pay $9 for shipping. Logic
The initial purchase is the cheapest part of owning a horse.
THE INITIAL PURCHASE IS THE CHEAPEST PART OF OWNING A HORSE.
Just because you can afford the horses sale price doesnβt mean you can afford the horse.
Smh people
Lol also when u have to negotiate a price down from 2500 to like 1700 i think you need to really think about how little that actually will matter in like 3 months
Hereβs the thing, yes buying is the cheapest part but maintaining is smaller amounts of money over a longer period.
Having just a bulk 2.5k to put down on a horse is harder than having 500 ish per month to maintain them.
When I started shopping, I knew I had the spare money to maintain a second horse at my facility. Iβve owned for 10 years and paid for everything myself for the past 3, so I was well aware of the cost. The hardest part was actually having the bulk money to put down on a horse because while I have that spare $200 a month to maintain a horse, having an outright 2k to just buy one isnβt really a thing.
Also, Iβm all for negotiating prices. The amount someone pays for a horse does not indicate the quality of life the horse will have. Hollywood was for sale for 5k and I bought her for 2.5k. She happier with me now than she was prior to that purchase (her previous owners even agreed).
Misty was bought for a grand total of $700 from a rescue. Her quality of life is pretty much the same tbh. Sheβs still in a large turn out situation, but sheβs being handled more often and worked more often which will be to her benefit in the long run.
I honestly see someone negotiating from 2.5 to 1.7 as fine because you can easily counter offer 2k and be done with it. Horse buying isnβt really that straightforward and if you really wanted to sell the horse for 2.5, you should have priced at 3.
Mine was priced at $7500 and I got him for $3500 because the owner knew I loved him and had been taking care of him for months. She considered all the money I had already put into him at that point. I had been full leasing him and knew I could afford it but I had no way of amassing $3500 so my grandma loaned me. Iβm paying her back in smaller chunks which is so much easier.
Yeah, tbh, I couldnβt afford to put down a lump sum of like 2k right now because of school but if my horse needed the vet, I have all of my bases covered because heβs insured for up to 10k medical and then beyond that I have a line of credit just in case and I always ensure I have enough hours to pay for board, farrier and basic vet bills not covered by insurance. When I had two, I had both insured for any bigger, unexpected vet bills and would make sure to work enough to cover the basics but I donβt have thousands of extra money lying around to drop on a horse
Lmao my guy was originally priced at $2,500, and I negotiated down to $1,700. Who doesn't want to save money if possible?? In my book there is always room to at least TRY TO negotiate. Like someone else said, just bc someone is trying to get a price lowered doesn't mean the horse is going to a bad home/someone that can't necessarily afford the horse. All of my trainer's horses were either free or bought for under $1,000.
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equine chiropractic..
QUESTION.
Iβm getting Loki into a more regular chiro/acupuncture/massage program. His uphill structure makes him an ideal candidate for back soreness. I hear that chiropractic work is better if done with relaxed muscles. Β So, i assume i should get the massage therapy/acupuncture done before the chiro? Iβve tried the massage therapy, i find it give mediocre results. Β Iβve always wanted to try the acupuncture, i hear great things, but iβve never gotten around to it.Β So, should I do acupuncture, massage therapy, or both? would that be overkill?
Iβve found results vary greatly between massage therapists. One thing I noticed is its actually about the ~energy~ of the therapist. Switched from a therapist who was really dominant and growled at horses if they so much as put their ears back bc what she was doing was sore, to one who was the most chilled out person ever (I swear to god I want to record her speaking and play it on nights I canβt sleep, sheβs legit the most relaxing person to be around) and got much better results. She did acupuncture too but only occasionally when the horse needed it. Iβve previously had a chiro who I noticed no changes from every time he came, but have friends who swear by it. I feel like each technique can work well when done by a good person, but (at least in aus) the quality varies despite supposedly standardised training.
Personally I think both the same day would be overkill. I normally work them gently and with lots of stretchy stuff the day the people come so the muscles are warmed up somewhat but have had enough time to cool off/arenβt boiling. I reckon if youβre getting mediocre massage results than find a new person.
I would say the best therapist for your horse with massage though is probably you! Who knows him better and can work on what he needs better? Massage is great If done properly and regularly itβs actually better for the horse. Slow results obviously which is why people (including myself) like the chiropractor, but longer lasting. You really have to do it often enough to make a difference which is also why money wise it is much easier for you to do it yourself.
Itβs something that is relatively easy to learn.. Itβs pretty hard to damage the horse through massage. If you can get some training in pressure point therapy and include that in your stretching and massage it is super beneficial and you will notice
It really is a whole process though and if you are just rubbing your horse you definitely wonβt get the results that you want.. Doing both on the same day though I agree is a bit overkill. For any stretching or chiro or massage it is best to have warm muscles.
Iβm not sure if this is very helpful, but there you go! Aha
I was actually thinking about finding a way to learn or take courses for equine massageβ¦ It would save me a lot of money in the long run. But I would definitely make sure Iβm learning correctly, would be stupid to half ass it and risk injuring my animals.
I am a strong believer in Chiropractic care. But make sure the chiro is a well loved one, they are a dime a dozen up where Iβm from and probably 2 are reliable.
Syn gets the whole works; Chiro 3x/year (as needed kinda thing but at least 2x a year), Massaged after hard weekends (clinics, shows), and acupuncture probably every 3 months.
The acupuncture I find has more of an impact on his demeanor, the massage has an impact on his relaxation and helps maintain the chiropractor adjustments, and the chiro adjustments keep him straight and level.
You donβt necessarily have to do them in any order, if you structure your day of the appointments and the following days properly. Iβve never found it to be an issue to do the appointments a few weeks to a month spaced apart. Before massages I ride Syn fairly hard but relaxed (long and low and forward), and before chiropractor I put Back On Track blanket on for about an hour. Acupuncture I find doesnβt require much prep work, but Syn has to be sedated for acupuncture because he has a couple very difficult spots; but he gets good results from those hard spots.
Iβve been having chiropractor work done on my horses for 9 years probably, and just started with massage and acupuncture this year. They make a difference, but I believe much more strongly in proper Chiropractic work, if I had to choose. A good chiropractor will integrate some basic massage into their appointment anyways.
I got my gelding adjusted by my vet who is also a chiropractor twice before getting him a massage. It seemed to really help him. We were having problems with him bucking at the canter and after the adjustments and massage he was a different horse. I don't think order matters too much tbh from what I've seen/read. Everyone honestly has their own opinion about it. All I know is chiro works well when combined with massage. I can't say anything about acupuncture as I have never tried it.
As far as learning to massage Loki yourself I would be careful. Not that you can't take classes and learn, but from what I learned watching my massage therapist work on my horse and talking with her, there is a lot to consider and work on right down to the little fibers of the muscles. It's the slightest of movements that can make a big difference to the horse.
My massage therapist in my area happens to also be Elisa Wallace's therapist as well since I live close to her barn in Georgia. She is the same therapist Elisa took to Rolex with her to work on her top horse Johnny and who regularly works on all her other horses including the mustangs if you follow anything eventing. So I was super confident with her working on my gelding since she is really knowledgeable/experienced.
It's all a matter, like others have said, about finding good people who are well versed in what they are practicing.
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People who choose to tie their horses without any form of breakaway anything (ie: leather/breakaway halter, twine, etc) make me furious.
Whenever people ask me why we use breakaway halters and cross ties I like to tell them this story.
When my boss first started riding, wayyyyy back in the beginning of time, they didnβt use breakaway halters on every horse and their cross ties didnβt break either. So one day they had this gelding cross tied in the aisle and something spooked him. When he hit the end of the ties he panicked and just kept going, but because nothing was breakaway this horse ripped the boards off the barn walls.
And then he bolted, with an 8+ foot long board dragging at the end of each cross tie. It took them almost an hour to catch him, by which point he had horribly mutilated his hind legs with the boards and cross ties. He recovered, but only after months of care and some very expensive bet bills.
It costs very little to invest in a breakaway halter, and using baling twine at the ends of your cross ties is free.
A horse I used to ride hung himself in the crossties and the boards didnβt even release so the amount of pressure from the halter on his poll ruptured his brain stem because they couldnβt get him loose in enough time to free him without causing fatal damage.
I hear so many excuses like βI donβt wanna teach my horse how to break freeβ like Iβd rather have a horse that breaks crossties occasionally than a dead horse
My TB gelding literally did the same thing with the board I mean. I was boarding at a really nice farm and the barn wasn't constructed very with horse strength in mind, just to look fancy. The barn owner used aussie tie rings so basically getting stuck in the crossties or breaking them was almost not possible if they are used correctly. They are also called the blocker tie rings. That is until some really dumb boarders, who had an older horse that figured out he could pull out of them, tied the long leadropes in knots making it impossible to have the crossties break.
Keep in mind my horse WAS wearing a leather halter. He had never done this before but something snapped and he backed up too far. As soon as he backed up the board ripped on the wall on one side like nothing, but the other didn't. My horse barely put much strength into pulling it off, but my dad saw later the nails holding the already thin board were way to short to hold it to the wall under minimal pressure. So my horse was still stuck to the crossties on one side. Happened to be the washrack was right next to the end of the barn so my gelding ran in and out of the barn around the wall while being tied on one side and dragging a giant board with nails sticking out on the other, whipping it around the aisle and making in impossible for me to get near him without getting whacked by it.
It was horrible and I had to wait until he finally stopped and stood still which he eventually did. Luckily he wasn't hurt at all and escaped all injuries that could have happened. Ever since then he's been funny about tying in general. I have since taught him to ground tie when I groom him and if I crosstie him I only use the aussie ties and now have a nylon breakway halter which breaks much easier than leather. If I must single tie, usually to the trailer, I make sure I use hay string in case he does freak out.
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