Ok. So something I've been thinking about is Rosie. We know nothing about her. And I thought about this when I remembered that it was a Cannibal child that Vaggie saved when she fell. And then when Charlie was having trouble with Vaggie's secret, Rosie gave her advice that helped. This may be a longshot but what if Rosie's interest in the hotel isn't with Charlie or the Morningstars? What if she's focused on Vaggie? I mean, we have yet to hear it confirmed that Rosie sent Alastor there to keep on Charlie or the royals; heck I wouldn't be surprised if Rosie didn't correct Alastor's assumption. Also, Rosie has shown to be VERY smart and calculating, I think she either knew ALastor would find a way to break his contract all along or if she didn't, then she instantly formed a plan to keep him in check in the future, I mea the guy's arrogance and pride are his flaws. Anyway, what if Rosie was really trying to get to Vaggie all this time and while she does like Charlie only used the princess to gain trust in the former exorcist? Plus, I think it's peculiar that Vaggie is surrounded by eyes in both old and new artwork and her eye was gouged out while Rosie (and other Cannibals) have pitch black eyes that make it seem like they have no eyes. I know really out there theory; what do you think?
Oh my god this is such a good point. I have so many thoughts at once actually! Ahhhh.
Rosie really had so many surprises in S2 that really excited me. I did sadly know the spoiler about her owning Alastor's soul but gosh when they showed the cast of people Alastor's levied against her it really made me think she was aligned with Charlie's goals for sure, if not Lilith's.
And like you said, we know nothing about Rosie and she has the strangest of the voice actor sheets. It says something like she "seems trapped in the 1910s" as opposed to just saying she is from there like everyone else! I've always wondered if she isn't pretending to be from different eras. Also I SUPER RECOMMEND this post by DiamondKat about Rosie! It goes into her character from Zoophobia which was someone who worked for the royal family. I do seriously think Rosie was happier when Lilith was around and obtained her power and control then, it really makes sense.
YOUR POINTS ABOUT ROSIE REALLY ADD UP. LIKE there is just too much that stacks - the kid, the advise, the all black eyes, it's insane.
THE CANNIBAL KID -- BECAUSE LISTEN, one of the biggest complaints people have about the show is not being sure how the rules of hell work with people having kids and what is and is not a hell born. I think its fine to let things be cartoon logic but my point is it would make more sense if there was a REASON it had to be a cannibal child! If it was meant to point us in Rosie's direction. (I also noticed cannibals having a bridal shower at Husk's casino which could add to the idea that Rosie has deals and agreements with everyone). And then you are right again that she directs Charlie BACK to Vaggi! Another point you can add towards the idea that Rosie might be focused more on Vaggi is that they have that mirror shot of Charlie and Vaggi both talking with Vaggi being a reflection to symbolize how she is trying to get Charlie to see herself and Rosie's card is right there. There is something about this shot that makes me wonder, even down to Charlie's back being turned to it.
I don't think your theory is crazy at all! I feel like Rosie having the man-eating sauce and stuff like that indicated that she really lived by the kill-or-be-killed way. I personally see Rosie as Alastor's mentor, she teaches him how to make deals in hell and how much they can cost you. I feel like he was either going to die or get out her contract and that by doing so he sort of "graduated" from her with her being the older and more seasoned deal maker. If she gave Alastor a hand then he might think one day that its okay to let his guard down and that will kill him just the same. They have one of the most interesting dynamics in the show and I do think they are friends but I think Alastor's deference to any woman who ends up in a motherly role towards him is a personal restriction on himself.
Everyone ends up attached to their worst possible match in hell: Valentino is the worst person for Angeldust and he once trusted him, Husk is the type of person Alastor can manipulate most easily and he is trapped in a deal with him. In this way Alastor ends up beholden to a woman who would never give any type of man mercy as if to punish the part of his personality that always benefits from being (in his point of view) charitable. So its like Rosie is always testing who Alastor says he is by giving him no mercy, she pushes people to become their own problem just the same and would see it as his own failing if he let his temper give his hand away. Alastor only lived to be 30-40 but he was in hell for 92 years given that he died in 1933 and he has been training under Rosie for ALL of those 92 years. Since he has never been free of Rosie a day in hell, it's hard to even know where he fully starts and she ends.
GOD YOUR POINT AT THE END WITH THE EYES IS SO GOOD. Rosie's eyes are completely black and Vaggi is followed by eyes in her art as far back as it goes as well as the entire world of hell being covered in Roo's eyes (we all are guess) really makes me wonder! I do think that you are right that Rosie has a deeper interest in Vaggi, I mean even if her goals are still aligned with Lilith and the Morningstar, you already pointed out how Alastor (who we now know was ordered to bring Charlie to Rosie) brought Charlie there under the pretense of Rosie being someone she could trust with more personal problems. He knows that Vaggi lives for Charlie because that's how he gets her to make a deal in the very first episode so it's likely that Rosie already understood who and what Charlie cared about. Just like Lucifer, Charlie can be controlled by whoever she loves the most. Most people can't even calm Charlie down or understand her perspective and Vaggi is the only one who is helping he keep her head above water, she's her life line. Plus, because Charlie is so much like her dad if Rosie is working for Lilith to watch Charlie, Vaggi, or both they can easily assume how she will react to things.
Even down to Carmila's willingness to help Vaggi we can wonder about Rosie. Rosie and Carmilla have been working together a long time, if Rosie is pulling the strings she managed to get the only overlord with a guilty sense of justice in a pretty good position of power which sets up for someone like Vaggi to fall.
This is such a good ask I really NEED to see Rosie content in season 3 I am dying now.
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