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kghn Really Are The Only hq characters

[choppyama]

“full of hinatas” I’m honestly lost for words. The way shoyo is still Kageyama’s standard, even years later.

Tobio doesn’t have Shoyo as a teammate anymore, but that’s okay bc he’s got so many amazing players dancing to his tune. He’s having so much fun as a setter, playing with everyone.

Still, I wouldn’t consider any of the Adlers players as a replacement for Shoyo tho

Unlike popular opinions, Hinata isn’t a replacement for Osamu either. He’s been in Brazil for most of his professional career, not necessarily by atsumu’s side.

If anything the closest thing Atsumu has to a replacement is probably Bokuto “I want your 120%” Kotarou

and Sakusa “he’ll see things through to the end” Kiyoomi.

They’ve been in the same club for much longer anyway, unlike Hinata who left MSBY after barely a season.

Besides, you don’t just replace a bond like that. Yes, Osamu doesn’t play professionally anymore, but he’s not dead. He still supports Atsumu.

I won’t deny that Hinata also makes volleyball fun for Miya, just like Hoshiumi and the others make it fun for Kageyama.

But I wouldn’t consider them replacements for bonds that took years to build either on the court or in their personal lives.

and I understand the kageyama isn’t the only one who can do the quick narrative.

something something about hinata finding comfort in atsumu after losing his first partner but the thing is shoyo never really lost tobio, not really and what kageyama is to him, atsumu or anyone else can’t replace, they can’t fulfill. This goes for hoshiumi too

The fandom needs to understand this is volleyball not a love quadrangle lmao

[choppyama]

i love how you talk abt kghn so nicely and portray their character so perfectly. what made you cherish them the way you do? i love kageyama so much and kghn have a big place in my heart. anyway i think ur so cool 😝

I really do talk about tobio/kghn so passionately a lot don’t I??? Lmaooo 😭😭😭 I think it all started back in 2021 when I created an acc on TikTok just bc I felt like they weren’t getting the appreciation they deserved there. Since then I started defending tobio online and talking abt kghn more and more like it's my one purpose in life sksjsbjgf

it's weird bc as a ship/pair they are so popular but so underrated at the same time I can't explain this phenomenon

[choppyama]

Tobio didn’t make fun of shoyo when he said he was a ball boy bc he fully supports his boyfriend’s wrongs.

also bc he would have done the exact same thing.

He would sneak into a camp uninvited, he would go to Brazil just to learn and get better at the sport. He’s just as driven, just as dedicated he simply had more opportunities. As in the chance to start playing vb and working towards his goals earlier.

I know the whole natural talent vs hard work discourse in this fandom gets tired so I’d like to avoid talking about it further but I still wonder how do so many people underestimate how dedicated Kageyama is to volleyball

when this is him

I do think the fandom is aware that kageyama is a volleyball freak but many don’t see him as inspiring in the same way they view characters like Hinata or Oikawa because his story isn’t told through an underdog perspective.

He succeeds really young and continues to succeed even bigger which often gets read as being handed things on a silver platter rather than perseverance.

In contrast we see oikawa struggle “for longer” he doesn’t make it to nationals, he doesn’t get everything he desires. So the audience feel for him, they project onto him. They admire him for “working harder” precisely because he doesn’t get to win until the very end.

Kageyama gets to Nationals, he becomes an Olympian at 19, wins countless time with his team. He even get to achieve his dreams of becoming Japan’s best duo with hinata when Iwaoi could never (I’m joking but not really)

seriously tho tobio’s success shouldn’t make his story any less compelling than Oikawa’s especially since they are basically two sides of the same coins. if you think oikawa’s arc is amazingly done? well…

More importantly the same qualities that people admire tooru so much for are traits tobio carries as well : they are both resilient, passionate, determined etc etc

Yes tobio has an advantage of playing vb since he was basically 0 years old but he also had a very challenging childhood, went though so much isolation and rejections, from not having anyone to keep up with him to losing his support system to his teammates abandoning him but he never once became discouraged or thought about giving up.

He always shows up at the gym to practice every single time despite EVERYTHING he went through.

It’s only a fair to note that Oikawa had his own kind of privilege. He always had his childhood friend by his side and never experienced the same kind of loneliness tobio did.

Kageyama’s serves are so amazing and that’s because it’s one of the few skills he could practice completely on his own. He became so good at serving because he didn’t have anyone to practice everything else with.

Oikawa also is naturally charismatic which makes it easier for him to communicate and connect with any of his teammates… a huge advantage for a setter and that’s something Kageyama inherently lacked. He had to work hard to develop those skills.

I could go on bc I do enjoy oikawa and kageyama dynamic a lot but I’ve talked too much already so here’s my favorite official art of tobio to ever exist

“kageyama who can afford to look up at the sky even in the extreme cold” FURUDATE LOVES HIM SM

[choppyama]

kagehina: who fell first and who fell harder?

Technically shoyo fall first bc of this moment right. Seeing the cape and crown without even knowing anything about the king of the court??? that’s some soulmate shoujo manga type of situation

But people tends to treat the trope like one is more in love with the other especially the character who falls harder and I don’t like that.

tho I understand why in some ships character A has to fall first, character B has to fall harder but with Kagehina you can always switch the roles and it works just as perfectly bc the infatuation and interest is mutual since the very first episode

Sometimes Kageyama looks like the one who’s been totally bewitched by Hinata and other times it’s shoyo who’s not normal about tobio.

If we’re using the idea from this tweet ;

Kageyama likely developed feelings first he’s very in tune with how he feels and waits for shoyo to catch up. Personally I think he subconsciously thought of shoyo as his “someone better” since that first meeting on the stairs when shoyo vowed to spend years chasing after him.

and by the time this happens he was sure.

meanwhile for hinata It’s more of a sudden moment of realization where it all clicked.

I have two moment which I picked in canon where the “oh OH” moment could happen

but I like to think that during his time in Brazil, being away from Kageyama made him realize just how much he cared, as the distance and yearning helped him acknowledge the feelings that had always been there.

Listen I’m not too fond of the portrayal of shoyo just being chased by some setter. Yes he’s charmingly lovable and should be adored but he himself also has so much love to give. So much yearning so much devotion… ignoring that isn’t doing his character justice.

So Tobio falling first and shoyo falling harder just makes the most sense to me but again it can be switched since both works.

[choppyama]

Kghn tangled au is possible bc Rapunzel always dreamed of seeing the floating lights, Hinata dreamed of seeing the view from the top and getting past the tall wall. Flynn helped her find the lights. Kageyama helped him reach higher than he ever could alone

[choppyama]

Hinata being shocked here when Kageyama asked him to follow him on top of the world only goes to show that shoyo’s dreams didn’t reach that big, meeting Kageyama really did changed the trajectory of his life.

It really does make perfect sense that if he didn’t get to meet kageyama. He wouldn’t have gone pro!

"i would still keep on playing volleyball from now on, but at one point, i'd stop at somewhere i think" I’m glad the hq bu author had the same opinions since it’s kinda ‘controversial’

That aside…. Kageyama looking at tsukkiyama quitting the team broke my heart but It also makes perfect sense that without shoyo by his side kageyama didn’t achieve his dreams. THEY NEEDED EACH OTHER

“The Kageyama that isn't on the same team with me probably is great, but he couldn't become the Kageyama I know.” just put a knife through my heart, it would’ve hurt less :(((

I think overall this chapter broke me but then put me back together again and left me with so much unprocessed thoughts and feelings

at least shoyo looks very cute

It’s a crime they were hiding his face for so long

[choppyama]

You’re telling me Hinata could be in any universe, on any team, and still feel like a part of him is missing simply bc kageyama isn’t present in his life??? OKAYYY

Hinata in a world without Kageyama still loves volleyball but he’s missing that spark, that relentless drive that makes him want to play forever???? OKAYY

they should give me some credit for that last hq bu chapter fr

we’ve been knew Hinata most likely wouldn’t have flourished in any other team the way he did at Karasuno, they were the perfect fit for him.

But what makes the chapter even more special to me is that, out of all the options he was given, he chooses Karasuno. He chooses Kageyama. he didn’t want to leave him in the first place??

Idk I love the /choice/ of it all because

well certain people saying he could have thrived in any other team (even if he could he WOULDN’T WANT TO)

or the [redacted] stealing hinata from kageyama jokes. the whole whole setters fighting over hinata thing without giving shoyo any agency at all.

it’s nice to be reassured (once again) that Hinata actively chooses to be in kageyama’s life, to be his partner, he loves him so bad. DONT SEPARATE HIM FROM HIS SOULMATE TY.

[choppyama]

sorry for a rant ask but i have an issue with how some people portray kageyama as an abuser and have him as an overly violent guy when half the cast (especially the ones that get woobified by the fandom) also have violent tendencies that get ignored (like getting into fights or grabbing at each others shirts or yelling at each other) unless it’s to make them ooc and villainize them

but i feel it’s a bigger issue with kageyama since we see him hinata a lot

well yeah the abusive allegations has more to do with people viewing hinata as a damsel in distress than Kageyama being “violent”

iwa and the twins aside (I’m sure they were the ones you were referring to lol) hinata also has those tendencies but he looks like a cute gremlin half the time even Tobio isn’t phased

I don’t think aggressive is the right word to use because it has negative connotations but it’s true that Tobio can look extremely serious/angry and be very hands on

he has a very physical way of expressing himself like when he gets frustrated he doesn’t hesitate to grab, shove or hit Hinata just to get him to be calm or be polite to strangers lol

but they’re teenage boys and it’s all mutual not an issue at all. If hinata had an issue with it he would SAY SOMETHING and tell him to stop.

besides I genuinely believe hinata could have won that fight if Tanaka didn’t stop them in time

he literally tried to bodyslam kageyama into outer space earlier

[choppyama]

It’s my personal opinion that if you don’t “get” Kageyama’s character, you absolutely don’t “get” Hinata’s either.

literary us :

I mean it’s just facts. Frdt wrote their arcs to be so incredibly intertwined. you just can’t talk abt their development, their goals, without mentioning each other….

[choppyama]

My opinions differs so much from the general fandom sometimes it feels like I’m going insane it’s nice when I say something on this app and the 5 of you who interact with me are like “so true user choppyama you’re so right I was thinking the exact same thing”

[choppyama]

“atsuoi would bond over hating Kageyama” where are people getting that from even? yes Atsumu teases Tobio sometimes but he doesn’t actually hate the guy right? rightttttt ?

being a fan of both hinata and Kageyama respectively is so weird bc the way the fandom treats each of them is very different in the sense that when it comes to shoyo everyone agrees that he’s so loved they ALLLL want him… they would never hurt their sunshine… he deserves to be loved by EVERYONE

but then at the same time the fandom is so fixated on making everyone have unnecessary beef with Tobio when in canon he’s also very much loved…

that said

I understand the Brazil fling hcs. I’m more of a hinata was pining and yearning truther but I don’t mind the the hc itself cause yeah hinata was lonely, he found comfort in oikawa, sure whatever

but why do the fandom insist on the cheating and Kageyama being done wrong ???

Hinata is grown if he wanted to have fling while in Brazil he could but he doesn’t have to act malicious abt it and purposely hurt Kageyama’s feelings

And it’s not just with those two setters it’s also with kenma and everyone else the fandom think fancy hinata… they all treats Tobio very badly bc they want to be in his place ??? Ig ???

and the most baffling part abt it to me is that shoyo just let them or he indulges in it too lol

“why don’t you like hinata rare pairs you’re no fun”idk maybe bc my favorite little guy gets treated like trash in all of them….

I know I’m taking thing so seriously rn but you see I’m very protective of Kageyama so idc

[choppyama]

I’m sure the reason Kageyama became favorite when I first watched the series is the angst. He carried so much hurt in his childhood and early teenage years, it made me feel extremely protective of him

His change in expression upon hearing Hinata's words here is so… He was wearing a frown the entire first episode and for a moment there it was gone

[choppyama]

As someone who’s so kghnpilled ranking hq characters is still so hard for me to do but I’ll try

My second fav is hinata ofc

3rd : Suga and the first years (tsukkiyama and yachi)

4th : The rest of karasuno with kazuyo, miwa and natsu

5th : characters that I don’t care abt much but both my favs do respectively so I think abt them sometimes… kindaichi, kunimi, kenma, oikawa.

6 : ig Hoshiumi, ushijima, are here too

7 : ummmm mayyybe characters that my favs don’t care abt THAT much but they’re always there like a pest so I’m forced to think of them sometimes (not always positively)…. kuroo and atsm

8 : idk minor characters that don’t really have much impact that I still appreciate like saeko and shoyo’s mom :)

9 : I hope I didn’t forget anyone else

10 :

[choppyama]

I’m sure the reason Kageyama became favorite when I first watched the series is the angst. He carried so much hurt in his childhood and early teenage years, it made me feel extremely protective of him

His change in expression upon hearing Hinata's words here is so… He was wearing a frown the entire first episode and for a moment there it was gone

[choppyama]

When people ask what’s your favorite hq quote/line I’m sure they expect some philosophical saying like we aren’t limited to one way of being great or what will you become tomorrow but mine is ‘I’m here’ it’s life changing to me and Kageyama

But seriously tho “no one understands what is and is not important to you better than you do” resonates with me a lot, esp when it comes to my hobbies bc ppl are usually like it’s not that sEriOuS but it is to me

Oh Kazuyo San the wise man that you were

Someone pointed out the way Tobio clutched the vb so close to his heart when kazuyo told him that and I can’t stop thinking about it he’s so precious

[choppyama]

“If you get really good… I promise you someone even better will come and find you… you’ll get to play a lot more games” Is actually a very broad approach.

On the surface level It essentially means that while Kageyama struggled as a kid to find players at his level, in the future he will eventually meet others who are even more skilled.

as Tobio himself improves at vb he’ll get to play against monsters who are just as good (or even better) allowing him to compete at full strength without holding back

Unlike when he was a kid where he had to go easy on his opponents just to extend his time on the court and keep playing a little longer.

what makes hinata THE someone stronger THE SOULMATE the one kazuyo was unknownly referring to is that he was the first to say ‘I’m here’

the only one of those great players who promised to stay and run alongside him forever

Also it’s the word play of the sentence that’s sooooo… kazuyo seems to be referring to multiple players who will eventually make vb fun for Tobio but furudate still chose a singular word ‘somebody’

his someone, his person, his…..

and hinata being in the frame alonside Kageyama’s family it’s so peak I still can’t believe it’s a real chapter

[choppyama]

I remember when making this quiz a year ago, me and my friend decided to include this open ended question bc we thought ppl would ask genuine sweet stuff but they mostly just say things like this lol

‘answered in 6 sec’ THEY DIDN’T EVEN YHINK ABOUT IT

But there’s really few nice one too I like reading them

his fans really love the fact that he’s an idiot with only vb thoughts there’s so many answers similar to this one

????? Lmao

Also the people want more lore about him in general like how did he managed to go to a foreign country alone. More about ch387 and his parents.

Oh and if he’s gay and in love with hinata :D

Anyways we didn’t expect so many ppl to take this quiz it was just meant for a few mutuals on twt

ik some are disappointed with their results bc the quiz has inconsistencies and it’s only 12 questions it can’t include everyone I’m sorry omg 😭

[choppyama]

It’s a canon event

Tobio could’ve punched your best friend in the face and then set their house on fire and you would still defend him Or not let’s find out