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ITZY ☆ ‘GIRLS WILL BE GIRLS’ TRAILER
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You can’t take her. You can’t. She’s only six.
Even though the Red Room is impossible to find and Dreykov is too slippery to kill? Yeah. That sounds like a shitloud of work. Yup. Could be fun, though.
I’ve been thinking about Tony Stark a lot recently, and there’s one particular facet about him that I want to discuss. We know that Tony Stark is one of the most intelligent characters in the MCU. He’s a veritable genius, and the son of a genius. Although in Iron Man 2 he remarks that his father is still taking him to school after having been dead for two decades, it’s likely that it’s just his bad self-esteem talking, and that he actually is even smarter than his father.
But while he is a genius, he has a tendency to downplay just how intelligent he is. He lets the eccentric part of his personality shine through, loud and abrasive, but he’s actually hiding much of his intelligence much of the time. Especially, it seems, in interpersonal relationships.
He comes across as kind of socially awkward, but it’s a part of what he uses to work people, to manipulate them into doing what he wants. And there are two scenes in the second Iron Man film that ought to inform how we view Tony’s relationships, all of them.
Enter Natalie Rushman. We see Tony try to figure her out. He’s unable to figure her out and he’s aware of this. It bothers him. But, he does see something in her. He can see that she’s not what she appears to be. Tony tells her that she has a quiet reserve and an old soul, but that’s not all of her.
And those things are true of Natasha Romanoff, not of the pretend persona Natalie Rushman. Tony saw through her facade, but he didn’t know what he was looking at.
The next scene is just before what dying Tony Stark believed would be his last birthday party. He confesses that it’s hard for him to get a read on her. He then asks her where she’s from. While she purposefully misunderstands the question and answers him with ‘Legal’, it’s clear that Tony was asking what on file had been All-American Natalie Rushman where she was from, really. Because while it was hard for Tony to get a read on her, he knew she wasn’t American.
It was hard, but not entirely impossible for him to get a read on her, because he could tell a lot about her.
Now, this is important.
She’s Natasha Romanoff. She’s a secret agent that was trained from childhood to infiltrate in KGB’s elite espionage program. She’s the freaking Black Widow. She’s really good at what she does.
And Tony is on to her. Not all the way onto her, but pretty fucking far.
And the thing is, it’s the only time we see him do it. Because with everyone else? With everyone else, with everyone else reading them is so easy for him that he doesn’t even have to try. Natasha is the one exception. Tony has everyone else figured out, bar none. And he works them over. He prods them, pushes them, rushes them, charms them, bullies them, pleads them – does what ever it takes to move them where he wants them. He has been more intelligent than all of his peers all of his life, and he’s learned to manipulate people.
It’s not a bad thing, necessarily. It’s just a consequence of his genius level intelligence. But this is a facet of his character that is often ignored because he hides it so well, because it’s so effortless for him most of the time. It’s only because it’s hard for him to cold-read a master spy that we see it at all.
Sometimes Tony’s cute and clever one-liners conceal how breath-takingly intelligent he is, and that’s just the way he wants it. And we should probably review some of his interactions against this fact.
I had CA: TWS playing in the background at work today, and something caught my attention that I have idly wondered about before, but this time, it was like a great big flashing sign. So much so that I had to go back and replay the scene.
Pierce: The timetable has moved. Our window is limited. Two targets, level six. He already cost me Zola. I want confirmed death in ten hours.
I saw that then I watched the scene on the bridge. Watch the Winter Soldier. He comes in for the attack, and the first person he takes out of the equation is Jasper Sitwell. AKA the man who let the Lumerian Star get captured by pirates. AKA the reason Fury got the intel and had his suspicions raised. AKA the reason that the timetable was moved. AKA the reason they lost Zola.
I always assumed it was Steve and Natasha he was coming after, but no. Steve is Level 8.
Just watch the way TWS attacks. He doesn’t go for Steve or Sam directly. He takes out Sitwell, the easy target, first then aims through the roof of the car at Natasha first. And when the car crashes, he doesn’t go after Steve.
Instead, he fires towards Natasha, and only misses because Steve pushes her out of the line of fire. The blast sends Steve hurtling over the ledge. You would think he would be a priority target after that, but TWS ignores him. Instead, he calmly stalks after Natasha like a predator.
The other HYDRA operatives are firing like mad, shooting at everything, but he just watches for Natasha. He doesn’t fire until he has her in his sites. He only fires three times when she’s still on the bridge, and each shot only just misses her. (Speaking of, I love that the only thing that makes him lose his cool and fire as wildly as the other HYDRA agents, is when she manages to land a hit on him. That’s the one time he doesn’t aim)
When he gets given the machinegun, he also doesn’t waste his ammunition once she’s out of range. He hops over the edge of the bridge and goes after her on foot. The only time he actually bothers himself with fighting Steve is when Steve attacks him.
Also, I think this whole scene really demonstrates the difference between the design of the Winter Soldier as a weapon and the way HYDRA have used him. HYDRA tends to be very much smash in and “KILL THEM ALL WITH FIRE!” style, whereas the Winter Soldier is very much carefully aimed and positioned. Just watch the way he moves when he’s hunting. Or even when he’s firing. He is absolute stillness and quiet, compared to the chaos and destruction of the HYDRA boys. He just walks into a scene, lifts his gun, fires, and just like that, is gone.
This is a very good point! The Winter Soldier’s behaviour on the bridge makes much more sense when we presume he was after Sitwell and Natasha rather than Steve and Natasha – why would he go after Natasha and leave his team to deal with Steve, arguably the bigger threat, if she wasn’t, in fact, his second target? Logically, if he were sent to kill all of them, he’d take out his opponents starting either with the biggest threat (Steve) and working his way down (Natasha, Sam, Sitwell), or starting with the least threat (Sitwell) and working his way up (Sam, Natasha, Steve). Instead, he took out Sitwell, completely ignored Sam (because he wasn’t ordered to kill Sam since Pierce didn’t know about him?), ordered his handlers to keep Steve busy, and went after Natasha himself.
The only piece that doesn’t fit the puzzle is the ‘level 6′, because both Sitwell and Natasha were Level 7. It might simply be a continuity error, but I always assumed Pierce referred to HYDRA’s own system of threat levels rather than S.H.I.E.L.D.’s clearance levels. A level 6 threat, in this case, would be a trained S.H.I.E.L.D. operative – although arguably, Natasha was a bigger threat than Sitwell. Still, they’re both (more or less) standard humans, unlike Steve. It actually makes a lot more sense that the targets were both the same level if they were in fact Sitwell and Natasha, because Steve was both a higher S.H.I.E.L.D. clearance level (Level 8) and a higher threat level, being a supersoldier, than either Sitwell or Natasha.
Notice also that the Winter Soldier asked Pierce, “the man on the bridge, who was he?” Not “my target.” So I think you’re probably right!
But wait…
If this is true, it also means the Winter Soldier didn’t kill anyone he hadn’t been expressly ordered to kill. In Odessa, he was ordered to kill the nuclear scientist and left Natasha alive. On the roof outside Steve’s apartment, he was ordered to kill Fury and ignored Steve even though he had a high-caliber sniper rifle and a clear line of sight – remember that post about how the Winter Soldier shot Nick Fury by extrapolating from where Steve was looking, meaning he could easily have put a bullet through Steve’s eyesocket if he’d wanted to? On the bridge, he was ordered to kill Sitwell and Natasha, ignored Sam, and told his team to go after Steve knowing Steve would take them out. At the Triskelion, he’d been ordered to destroy the loyal S.H.I.E.L.D. air force which posed a threat to HYDRA’s helicarriers until they reached operational altitude, and then went after his target, Steve, after taking out Sam in a way which would give him a chance of survival, however slim, like Natasha in Odessa.
The Winter Soldier was actively opposing HYDRA by obeying their orders in the most literal sense possible. He knew he couldn’t disobey a direct order due to his programming, but given the opportunity to take out a threat to HYDRA, he ignored that threat if he hadn’t been expressly ordered to deal with it. He even had Steve’s shield, Steve’s most powerful weapon, and threw it back to him.
All this time, we’ve been discussing Bucky in terms of loss of autonomy, how he was HYDRA’s brainwashed puppet, when in fact he was fighting HYDRA all along in the only way left to him – by sparing the lives of HYDRA’s enemies whenever he could.
HYDRA never broke Bucky completely.
Let’s talk about my favourite scene, which is coincidentally Natasha’s final appearance in Civil War. (AKA Why I Think People Shouldn’t Be Calling Her A Double Agent)
But before that, let’s talk about how when Natasha was waiting in the hangar, she wasn’t there solely with the intention of helping Steve and Bucky get away. It was likely one of the options she considered if it came down to it. Only when she realized that Steve wasn’t going to give in, did she let them go.
“You’re not gonna stop.”
Here’s when she starts realizing it’s a very real possibility she needs to deviate from the original plan to take them in. Because it would only get worse from here.
“I’m gonna regret this.”
And this is when she makes up her mind to let them go. She says it with reluctance, but since she’s made her decision, she’s sticking to it. For the greater good.
When she returns to the compound, the accusation on Tony’s face says it all; he thinks she betrayed him. Natasha’s expression, however, is intriguing. There is no sign of guilt, no looking down or looking away. At most, I interpret it as a look of concern. She fully believes what she did was the right thing to do. She assumes Tony understands why she did it.
And why wouldn’t she think that?
She’s seen him struggle to keep the Avengers together. She’s seen him allow Ross to tear into him just so they can be the ones to bring their friends in instead of Special Ops. She’s heard him beg Steve to give in. She was there when he told Steve he was just trying to keep the Avengers from being torn apart. She has every reason to believe that Tony, like her, is only doing what is best for the Avengers.
This is what she says after Tony gives her the run-down on Rhodey’s injuries:
“Steve’s not gonna stop. And if you aren’t either, Rhodey’s gonna be the best case scenario.”
Does she talk about what she did or even try to apologize? No. Because she doesn’t think she did anything wrong. She immediately gets down to business. She’s discussing strategies with him, trying to convince him to back down, to revise their original plan because it’s clearly not panning out the way they want. Nobody was supposed to get hurt. But Steve, their friend, made a choice. He’s not going to give in, and Natasha realizes that if they don’t change how they’re dealing with him, it’d only go downhill from here.
“You let them go, Nat.”
Self-explanatory. In addition to the look of betrayal Tony gives her at the start, there is now further evidence that they’re viewing things from different angles.
“We played this wrong.”
Natasha uses the word “we”. It’s them against the world, her and him having to work together to make the situation better. Their original plan may have failed, but they can still salvage it if they make a few changes.
“We? Boy, it must be hard to shake the whole double agent thing, huh. Sticks in the DNA.”
“Are you incapable of letting go of your ego for one goddamned second?”
Tony’s remark about trust hits Natasha hard. The thing to note is the expression she first gets when she hears it. His words catch her off-guard. It implies that it never occurred to her that she was taking sides, and therefore, “betraying” sides. Her goal has always been to do what’s best for the Avengers. That means Team Avengers for Team Avengers. Not Tony vs Steve.
But the realization of what Tony says hits her hard. And it hurts. It’s subtle, but it’s there on her face and in her voice. It’s a glimpse of a vulnerable Natasha.
At this point, she stops trying to reason with him and shoots back with a remark about his ego. She’s not just saying it out of frustration with his inability to see the bigger picture. It’s personal, just like his words were personal. She has issues with trust; he has issues with his ego.
You hurt me. I hurt you.
It doesn’t end with a happily ever after. Tony still thinks that she, one of the few friends he thought was standing by his side, betrayed him. And Natasha, stinging from his accusation as all hope of keeping her family together dissipates into thin air.
There is anger, hurt, and frustration. But despite that, their last words to each other were ones of caution. They were looking out for each other. Because in the end, they’re still family. And family looks out for family.
cool cool cool I just wanna say one of the most heartbreaking things about rewatching endgame was noticing that steve looks to natasha for EVERYTHING. it’s his automatic response to anything unexpected.
the first thing he does when he notices the stones aren’t in thanos’s gauntlet? he looks at her for her reaction.
the first thing he does when they get out of the car at tony’s, and tony maybe doesn’t react the way steve had hoped expected? he looks at her and waits for her signal to approach the house.
the first thing he does when they’re experimenting with time travel and things start to go south? he glances at her, expecting her instructions, even though bruce is literally the one manning the time machine.
it’d become second nature for him to look to her for guidance and direction, for him to gauge her reaction before forming his own, because she had more experience than he did when it came to a lot of things, and she was the one who helped him and taught him to find his feet in the present. she was his anchor to this world, but she was also his guiding light. i can’t imagine what it was like to lose that.
so this took me forever to figure out how to articulate but my biggest problem with Nat’s characterization (or lack thereof) was the way she was flirting with Bruce.
Like Steve said, he’s seen Natasha flirt up close and personal. She uses her sexuality as a weapon or a distraction, whatever fits the mission. That’s what she was trained to do by the Red Room. She was trained to be all flirty and coy to get what she wants. That was her training.
Which is exactly why it felt so wrong in the movie. Natasha wouldn’t flirt with Bruce if she liked him because any kind of flirting would feel like subjugation and deception after using it as a weapon in her arsenal for so many years. That’s how she was trained to kill. The way she was flirting with Bruce felt like she was buttering up a target or a mark. It was awkward and forced and just so wrong because if she really cared about him, she wouldn’t beat around the bush, she would say so straight out because that is the exact opposite of how she was trained to interact with people.
Natasha Romanoff was trained to use sex and her looks as weapons and you really expect us to believe that she’d be comfortable using those same techniques to interact with someone she genuinely cares about? No fucking way.
See I have this theory about BruceTasha. And I may get accused of being a crazed Clintasha girl, but here goes.
Natasha was behaving like Bruce was a mark because he was.
Let’s look at the evidence. For some bizarre reason, Natasha has been selected as the one to calm the Hulk. As I’ve said in a previous post, this makes no sense - Tony would have been a more natural choice. But what if she, or even Fury, decided she had to be the one because she is so good at manipulating people? She can manipulate the Hulk into calming down, by presenting this calming façade and getting him to let Bruce come back into control. And she manipulates Bruce too, so that he trusts her, will listen to her, and stay with the Avengers for when they need him. She flirts with him to make him feel wanted, so that when she needs to, she can bring out the Hulk or put him back again. And we see this in action at the end of the film, when Bruce comes to get her out of the cell Ultron has her in (the reasons why she didn’t just escape are enough to fill another entire post), when she tells him ‘I adore you’, the most awkward line in a ‘relationship’ built on awkward lines, and then promptly pushes him into the chasm to get the Hulk. Because, as she says, “I need the other guy.” She knew that moment would come, sooner or later, and she needed Bruce to trust her enough to get close to her, and Hulk not to kill her when she did. And how does Natasha get people to do what she wants? She flirts with them. She seduces them. And that scene at the very end, when she’s staring at the black wall after he’s left. I refuse to believe she’s pining after him like a lovesick puppy. I think she’s feeling guilty because she so thoroughly manipulated someone on her own team, using the tactics she was first taught in the Red Room. And she hates that she used the training she so deplores on a team mate, even if she had to, even if it did save the world. And she hates that she’s lost a potential platonic friend because of it. Because I think platonic friends - who don’t see her as this sexy body, but as a person they love for who she is inside - would be incredibly important to Natasha. She can have any man she wants with the batting of her eyelids, but what she wants is friendship, like any normal person has. And you can see this in effect in The Winter Soldier, in the scene on board the ship with the hostages when her unannounced side mission puts her and Steve in danger, and his is visibly angry with her. And you can see her kicking herself, beating herself up, because here’s this man who trusts her, works with her, and doesn’t see her body as something to covet, and she’s disappointed him. She’s worried she might have lost that valuable friendship. So yes, I’m going to chose to believe that the reason why the scenes between Bruce and Natasha feel forced is because they are. She is forcing herself to do this to someone she’d rather have as a platonic friend because she needs to be able to control both halves of Bruce’s nature, so that when the time comes to it, she can both take the Hulk out and put him back in his box. She needs to be able to summon the Hulk when he’s needed, and lull him back into submission before he can hurt anyone. And she does that the only way she knows how; manipulation through flirting and seduction.
So yes, the reason she’s behaving with Bruce as she would a mark is because that is exactly what she was doing.
#i like this#not just because it’s a way to explain that awful relationship#but because i could see where it came from too#last movie Nat was scared of the hulk because he wasn’t the sort of person she could manipulate and control#that is she couldn’t deal with him the way she deals with everyone else#but this indicates she can#it just. ..takes more effort#And if this was something she started doing while shield was still up and Nick still thought of her as someone who is comfortable with everything?#that makes more sense#And it was working so she kept with it even without orders#and her guilt over it would be worse because she wouldn’t have just been treating Bruce like a mark#she’d have been lying in some way to everyone on the team because she wouldn’t want them to know she was manipulating Bruce#(And it wouldn’t work if anyone on the team knew)#so yeah guilt over lying#it might also explain why Clint#her best friend#‘didn’t see it’#because maybe she was keeping it from him because she didn’t want him to know#or maybe because he knows that that behaviour from Nat isn’t… well maybe he knows what her emotional manipulation vs her real feelings is like better than anyone else#And anyone else?#well Nat is used to fooling people isn’t she?#And maybe she started this before Steve and her were bros#and like she knows Steve wouldn’t approve of this kind of manipulation of friends#but it’s working so well#And on the scale of lies she’s told before this one is so miniscule#and it’s doing so much good#And so she keeps with it#even if she’s not happy about it all the time#headcanon accepted#meta (via greekamazon)
NATASHA ROMANOFF/BLACK WIDOW + TALKING about STEVE ROGERS/CAPTAIN AMERICA in SECRET EMPIRE (2017)
CW: this post mentions death, survivor's guilt, and poor regard for one's life in general.
I just saw this gifset by @marvellegends, and started thinking about Natasha's reaction to that Widow's end. It was too long to put in the tags, so there you have it.
It was one of the most heartbreaking moments of that movie, in my opinion. Natasha has just witnessed all of her convictions of her last 10 years (maybe more) crumble to pieces in front of her eyes, in the crudest of forms — death. Her need to be wiping the red out of her ledger was based on the fact that she'd eliminated the source of the bleeding. That was the main, essential prerogative. So of course she doesn't trust Yelena, at first: she wouldn't just be disclosing to her the delusional result of a mission; she'd be telling her that her whole life was a lie.
There, kneeling in front of that dead widow, she realizes it: she's not a hero. She's a fugitive. A fugitive whose break is the main reason for that, and many other countless deaths. That woman could've been her, maybe should have been her. I'm sure survivor's guilt played an important role there — and even after they burnt the whole Red Room down, for real this time, I think it stayed with her. And piling up with surviving to the Snap, it would easily explain her sacrifice on Vormir, too: she shouldn't be alive in the first place, in her head. Her life has no reason to be as valuable as fate made it to be. It should be expendable, like everyone else's; she longs to be like everyone else. After all, she never really got to. Even after she was freed, guilt and legal obligations tied her down. But you know who still had a chance to have a decent life? Who was going to be still young enough to, if she came back? Yelena. Her life was more worthy to be lived (and so were many, many others that were wiped out by the Snap). And if she'd abandoned her once, failed her twice, it sure wasn't going to happen a third time. Not when she finally had the chance to get things right, not when that would have finally, finally, given her life some meaning.
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