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As a result of being silenced by this hellsite on my Stranger Things sideblog (ragingredstorm), I will be making my ST posts on here for the time being. All posts will be tagged under the show’s name.

The fact that “Cut the Crap” came out shortly after Jonathan moved to Lenora. No wonder he needed weed!

#stranger things #jonathan byers #you know in addition to the depression and everything else he was dealing with

It’s really funny how some st*ncies are still hung up on my “the only defense [they] have is saying Jonathan is a dick” comment. First of all, my legacy. And secondly, I must retract that statement. There are two ‘defenses’. The first is that he’s apparently a dick, and the second is that the only reason I and others don’t ship it is because we “hate women.”

What a great set of arguments!

#stranger things #anti stancy #lolllllllllllll

Headcannons can really be a double edged sword. On one hand, I think we should all be encouraged to find our own readings of art, even if they don’t line up with the creator’s vision. I think it’s lovely to find connection with a work as well, and you can definitely see that with specific interpretations.

But, sometimes . . . Sometimes it feels like people are straight-up ignoring what the work is actually trying to say. And that can lead to some very binary ideas that I’m very much not a fan of.

#this has been on my mind a lot recently #i’m specifically vaguing about a work’s theme being that gender norms and roles are bullshit #only for several members of that fandom to completely bypass all of that commentary in a way that just encourages the norms even more!#maybe the point isn’t that one character is an ‘exception’! maybe it’s just because toxic masculinity is a vicious cycle!

Every once in a while, the sentence “A Netflix live-action Gundam film starring Sydney Sweeney and Noah Centineo” pops back into my head and I start laughing my ass off. Why is that a thing. Why must we live in this reality.

#gundam #mobile suit gundam

Happy anniversary to a show that’s brought me a lot of joy. A ton of frustration along with it, but I’m focusing on the bright parts today.

#stranger things

“The Boiling Rock could’ve been one episode—” why do some of y’all treat shows like fast-food restaurants?

#avatar the last airbender #atla #seriously not everything has to be in-and-out #get immersed for once in your life

Tbh I get the feeling that S5’s lack of (non-technical) Emmy nominations stemmed less from the quality of the show and more from Shawn Levy’s dumbass comments in 2022. But also, the Emmys pick favorites and nominate them over and over again, even when they suck ass (looking at you, GOT Season 8). Stranger Things was never much of an Emmy darling, even at its peak, making it easy to quietly pass over as the quality’s gone downhill.

#stranger things #this is me completely rambling sorry #it’s odd bc while i don’t believe the season deserved major emmy noms #i find the idea that it individually was responsible for the show’s decline to be overblown and obnoxious #that combined with the emmys nominating the same four or five shows in every category makes the event feel like less of a showcase #and more of an industry-wide victory lap #anyways down with the emmys down with the oscars down with the grammys and down with the golden globes #(tonys can stay but they’re on thin ice)

“The costume designer said she made El’s wetsuit like that to show off Millie’s figure!” Uh, no. If you actually watched the InStyle Interview with Amy Parris, she says that about El’s training outfit. Specifically the midriff section, and not the entire thing. The wetsuit was plot-required (so not on her), and was optimized to prioritize Millie’s comfort.

The timestamp is from 2:49 to 4:35. Have discourse about it if you must. There’s plenty in the season to spark some. But can we not spread misinformation at the very least?

#stranger things #stranger things 5 #el hopper #i understand the comment rubbing people the wrong way #even if i don’t think it was intended to come off like that #el’s treatment in s5 from varying angles is blatant and worth exploring #but fact-checking is immensely important and we can’t lose that

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OHHH MY GOD IT'S RATFIT ANNIVERSARY DAY

#I JUST THINK #THERE’S SOMETHING #REALLY WRONG #WITH #THIS #RAT #stranger things

S1 Hopper: I’m going to find Will no matter what.

S5 Hopper: Hey Joyce I kinda lost track of Jonathan in the Upside Down. Whoops. Hope he’s still kicking or whatever.

#yes i know there is a difference between twelve and twenty #but good lord the irony is too much to leave unmentioned #stranger things #stranger things 5

While I am overall glad that they didn’t try to bring back the Stoncy-Bat for cheap nostalgia, a part of me does miss it. Remember when this show’s writing was good? Remember when we had the Stoncy-Bat? Those were the days.

#steve being a baseball coach was a nice callback though admittedly #the TETHER #stranger things #steve harrington #nancy wheeler #jonathan byers #stoncy #i knew from the moment i first watched it that the s1 finale would never be topped

While I found the Robin/Joyce conflict in s5 more interesting than others seemed to, I was kind of disappointed that they never explored Joyce’s relationship with Nancy. Because I believe the amount of strain there would be fascinating.

#nancy and jonathan were essentially ditched by the adults in s3 (for *reasons* but still)#only for Joyce to move away from hawkins (a valid reaction to her trauma) and put a massive weight on nancy’s shoulders #she’s the one who has to take on the fight in s4 because there’s simply no one else who can #and you combine that with how joyce treats jonathan and yeah i don’t think she and nancy would be on the best terms #i don’t mean any of this as joyce slander. but as a character conflict it would have felt far more natural to me #plus it could tie into their individual guilt #stranger things #stranger things 5 #nancy wheeler #joyce byers

While I do agree that St*ncy should have had a conversation—to assert Nancy’s agency if nothing else—I find it odd when fans of the ship claim they had “no closure” in any capacity.

She straight-up said “No, it’s not like that with him.” That’s a definitive answer if I’ve ever heard one.

#stranger things #stranger things 5 #nancy wheeler #anti stancy #for all of the claims that they are the ones who understand nancy’s vulnerability and agency #they sure as hell don’t listen to what she has to say #i know dogging on a ship i don’t like is redundant at this point #but the annoyance remains #“b-b-but the duffers said her and jonathan could get back together so the same could be said for—” nope

Max is like, “Hey, guys! What did I miss?” And somehow Hopper’s alive and Dustin’s got a completely new aesthetic and her middle-school science teacher is there for some reason. Also Nancy and Jonathan are seemingly drenched in cum.

#stranger things #stranger things 5 #max mayfield #poor max went through a sensory nightmare for eighteen months and woke up to 500 different heart attacks

Nancy saying “what’s up with him lately?” about Dustin’s grieving process might be an annoying lack of continuity consideration, but can be kinda funny from a character perspective. “Dustin, come on, even I was over Barb by this point,” she says while pretending she wasn’t still crying at every birthday or anniversary or even at random moments. Nope, she was definitely over it. Just ask her.

#stranger things #stranger things 5 #nancy wheeler #she’s like trauma what trauma

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Actually you know what? I want to go there: the same people who are willing to give Steve a tonnnn of leeway for his early mistakes “because he’s just a teenager” PLUS grant him an inordinately large amount of praise for his growth/“redemption” afford Jonathan none of the same grace and act like even his minor mistakes are major irredeemable pitfalls. But the reality is that Jonathan has manyyy more forces working against him, hindering his capacity for quick and straightforward growth, which makes measuring the two’s progress on the same scale a completely ludicrous + pointless endeavor to begin with.

Much of what Steve has to overcome is literally normal immature teenage stuff. He’s a bully who outgrows it. He mixes with the wrong crowd, and his “redemption” begins the moment he ditches those negative influences in his life and replaces them with positive ones. Jonathan, meanwhile, is dealing with the heavy trauma of an abusive father, early parentification, growing up poor, and being trapped by the town’s stigma. And that’s all before the upside down of it all, which, while obviously traumatizing the whole group, disportionally affects the Byers’ on a deeply, deeply personal level.

“Steve has grown far more than Jonathan by s5 and therefore Steve is better than Jonathan” is such an inane fuckass argument. Like? No fucking shit. All Steve had to do was grow up and become an adult. Jonathan was forced to be an adult too young and has never had the chance to sit still long enough to process a thing he’s gone through. And it’s still ongoing! It isn’t exactly shocking that Steve has made more progress in his journey over the timeline of the show. Let’s all think!

#and the way that so many of these same people complain about jonathan being a “flat character” in later seasons #LIKE NO SHIT. Y’ALL RAKE HIM OVER THE COALS FOR EVEN THE TINIEST OF MISTAKES #yes there’s genuine complaints to be had about his writing. which can be said for everyone else on the show.#but the amount of sheer rage that jonathan byers ignites in some members of this fandom is insane #stranger things

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