The key to writing good fanfiction is to harbor a deeply humiliating desire, and the trick there is that even pretty basic and societally-accepted desires like “being held” and “being wanted” CAN and WILL be humiliating if they’re intense enough. Become so estranged from human connection that the idea of someone playing with your hair fills you with yearning so deep you feel like you’re going to throw up and you will write some banger fanfiction. It might have some other consequences too but idrk about that.
Weirdest Prophet: Give the children parents! And siblings! Let them have platonic soulmates! Let them be loved!
Sorority of Jason Grace: Let them be themselves! Let Annabeth be too blunt and too rude! Let the nerds infodump at the worst possible moment! Let Jason and Annabeth be physically close without it being weird! Let found family siblings love each other!
Yup. Nothing to do with the above post. Nope, completely valid plot decisions that have nothing at all to do with me...
That ‘comment on your a03 work’ email hits like a line of cocaine every time. unmatched dopamine increase. shoutout to everyone who leaves a comment on fics. you deserve the world
The Sorority of Jason Grace is cooking, y'all!
Seriously, I am finally on the finishing bits of Sister Who Wasn't, the first/TLT instalment, and the first chapter should be up, dare I say it, within two weeks?
I'm committed to end of August at the latest, but with the worst/biggest hurdle finally done, I am feeling much more confident that I won't be completely rewriting earlier chapters in these final sections.
So that's very exciting, and hopefully no one is interested in a PJO story with Jason Grace as the MC (which I'm assuming since A03 is pretty much crickets).
I have very very complicated emotions about people reading what I write lol.
Anyway, things are moving along well, 232k is fully written and I have 1 mostly written and 3 half written chapters to finish. Everything else is done done done.
Have a zero context snippet:
Jason and Annabeth stand very very still as the King and Queen of Olympos start snarling at each other in Koine Greek.
“Did you know? Tell me for once and for all! Did you know about the other?”
Hera throws her hands in the air, her body vibrating with rage. “You didn’t tell me you broke the oath! How am I to be your Queen if you don’t tell me what foolish thing you’ve done now?!”
“Did you know?” Zeus’s voice drops to a deep rumble that shudders through air.
A dangerous sort of rumble.
Hera rolls her eyes. “Of course not, you twit! If I’d known I wouldn’t have taken such severe measures!”
“You swear this?”
“Do we not have enough problems with oaths?”
“Swear by my heir.”
Hera’s hands jerk up, clenching reflexively, as if she wants to throttle her husband. She snarls out, “I swear by Apollon Latoios that I did not know. I learned when you did.”
Clearly infuriated at having to swear by Apollon, son of Leto, she then throws a curse word at Zeus that makes Jason and Annabeth flinch.
It draws the gods’ attentions and Jason struggles to stand straight under their scrutiny.
Zeus scowls, lightning crackling over his clothes and face the longer he looks at Jason.
Then he turns on Hera once more, a finger pointed straight at Jason. “You stole him from me!”
If Hera were any less proper, she would be spitting as she screams. “I kept him safe! Why are we fighting over this, yet again? It’s not the first time I’ve done this, you fool! How many of your children have I saved from the courtesans you bedded!? You idiot! Use your head for once in your life!”
Jason has never regretted learning Koine Greek more.
Zeus roars back, making the air itself vibrate. “Did you know he was the child of the prophecy when you took him? Did you take her too?”
I am feeling lazy and have been saving my linguistics rants for the actual story. I am still obsessively correcting mistaken Greek and Latin, because, well I am an autistic nerd. But I also wandered off into Linear B for a bit, and yet it is actually plot relevant.
This thing has become an academic thesis disguised as fanfic. And I have no shame about this.
So, copying and pasting the current status of what I am now relatively confident will be a 23 chapter final fic.
And yes, I am screaming into a void and well aware that there is a reason there are so few Jason-centric fics on A03. There are even fewer ones with skyfam or Protective Zeus tags. And well, I had not planned those last ones, but a Myth Accurate Zeus regularly invited himself over to annoy his demigod kids, at least the interesting ones, so... Yeah. I have lost the plot.
Current Status as at 11 July 2026:
The first seventeen chapters are finished. Word count is 186.7k across these finished chapters.
17-23 are unfinished chapters, with 23.5k already written between them.
Only two of those chapters have less than 4k in them. All of them are outlined and I am only stuck on a couple of scenes. Naturally, they would be the final fight scenes. Because, of course.
The story is fully written all the way to the tour of the Underworld.
The first 75.5k cover Jason and Annabeth's first five years at camp. With a lot of world building and essential events. Luke's quest among other things.
The next 38k run from the Summer before the bolt theft, and cover everything up to and including the capture the flag game and claiming. Plus fall out.
Then two chapters/20k on post claiming, issue of quest and prep for quest.
65k written for the quest, with another predicted 30k-ish to write. That's everything from them leaving camp all the way to returning the bolt to Zeus. So around 90-100k will be just be the quest.
Final two chapters are both half written and cover what was the final chapter of canon.
So, final length will still be 245k-250k, which is bloody insane for The Lightning Thief, but it also has a much heavier focus on the quest.
My original goal was to go through canon with a fine tooth comb and indulge in as much nerd-heaven and 'correcting mistakes' as I could. I am aware I am still working on how to write the active/adventure bits so it was intended as a lot of practice.
I am quite pleased I did actually find enough things to write about. 11 of canon's 22 chapters are dedicated to the quest. And given I was also needing to cover the 75.5k of time before said quest and a hell of a lot of world building… Yeah, I am stupidly verbose, but also content with reaching my goals.
Please note, insane word counts are not a comment on anyone else's ability or lack there of to babble endlessly. I am insane. I am aware I am insane. I am enjoying indulging in allll the words and not needing to restrict myself to 5k word essays. Word limits were the bane of my existence when I did academic-related things.
Anyway. Basically. I need 3-10 decent writing days and this thing will be finished. Then it needs a read through or two, a bit of editing, and I'll be able to whack the first chapter up.
Is it still being written?
Yes. You betcha. It's now at 167.5k and I have so much still to write for the TLT instalment.
Why is it taking so long?
Well, let's see, in the past two days I have rabbit holed on: The Greek letters Χ (Chi) and K (kappa) and how Latin didn't have a similarly wide variety of keh sounding letters and this eventually led to Kronos and Chronos becoming the same. The history of sword making from the bronze age through to the iron age. Roman use of steel. The disproven 'solely mythological' Orikhalkos (it was real. It's a type of brass.) Every single piece of myth I could find on Tityos. Various myths on Iris. Who actually made Poseidon's trident, which remains ambiguous because the trident exists in myth/history looooonnnnggg before anyone recorded it's forging. Where adamantine comes from. The word play of the greek μεδεα which means two very very different things...
Yeah, basically I am going under in academic research and having the time of my life. In between all that, the story continues to be written, but it's probably the most heavily researched thing I have ever written, and oh does that say something about my postgrad work LOL.
I am also just using this as an excuse to see what happens when I go all out on the research and over-verbosity, and hopefully get it out of my system before I go back to my other two projects.
I'm having fun, and the work is continuing, it's just taking a lot longer than planned because I'm no longer writing and more spending hours every day chasing every new factoid I come across.
Since SoJG is the story of an Athena kid and a pseudo-Athena kid just call it method writing? I can be an Athena kid! Totally!
Someone asked if writing is lonely and i had to think about it for a really long time. technically yes. you are alone in a room with made-up people and a document and a coffee that went cold an hour ago. but also there are like six characters in there with you and they all have opinions and one of them is being difficult and you're negotiating with someone who doesn't exist about a plot point that affects no one. lonely is not the word i would use. crowded, actually. it is very crowded in here.
When I track the origins of a myth to Ovid:
Oh, hey, I totally see what he was trying to do there. Making Minerva an archetype of prideful behaviour must have really pissed the Roman rulers off. It's a shame it got picked up and turned into a pop culture thing, but I can completely understand why he made Minerva the blueprint of a military leader unable to look past her own hubris.
When I track the origins of a myth to Euripides:
Dude, was it just you who was so obsessed with incest, dismemberment and cannibalism, or was this what the ancient Athenians decided was pop culture? Are you aware that you can write a play without incest, the consumption of human remains and/or the horrific murder of children? Because it's 2500 years later and I am judging your ass so hard.
This is purely a rant on my part, so I'm going to start with the disclaimer that I genuinely am all for people using artistic license and writing whatever they feel like, Writing based on vibes is how we get awesome fics with completely wild premises that are a glorious adventure from one end to the other.
But I am also someone who subscribes to a certain philosophy. It's attributed to Picasso, but probably wasn't said by him, which doesn't change my love it.
Learn the rules like a professional, so you can break them like an artist.
Which is why I want to have a lil rant about the PJO fandoms perpetuating claim that demigods can understand modern Greek because it's the same as how an English speaker can understand Shakespearian English with a little effort. I also regularly see the claim that Roman demigods can understand Italian.
The language of Ancient Greece and modern Greek are not mutually intelligible. At all. How do I know this? Hi, I’m diaskedasilexis and for my sins, I spent several years studying university level Koine Greek and Ecclesiastical Latin.
In Percy Jackson & the Olympians, RR makes it blatantly obvious he has no understanding of the languages of the ancient world. He also relies on other people to do the Greek and Latin translations and whoever he's using is 100% screwing with him. There is no way so many consistently terrible translations could exist otherwise. It starts with Anaklusmos, Greek gods and demigods shouting 'di immortales!' and then it just keeps getting worse.
But, RR does establish some basic rules.
Mainly that Greek demigods possess an innate understanding of 'Ancient Greek'.
Very early on in The Lightning Thief, we have Percy reading a 'few lines' of Homer.
Homer's works, the Iliad and The Odyssey, are written in what is now labelled and defined as Homeric Greek. Also called Epic Greek. It is a unique combination of several Archaic Greek dialects to create something that is both poetic and utterly beautiful to read aloud. It sounds incredible and is a piece of art in and of itself.
They are also written in the 8th C BCE, in a time when the main language of the area is what we now call Archaic Greek.
Going back to my own skill-set, I am trained in Koine Greek, the language that came after Archaic Greek. Koine means Common. Koine Greek was the common tongue and by the 3rd C BCE it had become the international language. It continued to be the international language right up until the 6th C CE. Romans who travelled outside Rome proper often learned Koine Greek as their second language.
English as a distinct language showed up somewhere around 5th-6th C CE, right when Koine Greek's popularity was tailing off.
To give you a breakdown of the length of time between languages:
Shakespearian English to Modern English used today: 420 years
Koine Greek to Modern Greek used today: 1426-2326 years
Homeric/Epic Greek to Modern Greek used today: 2776 years
Homeric/Epic Greek to Koine Greek: 500 years
Look at those numbers again.
The claim that an Archaic or Koine Greek speaker can speak Modern Greek relies on the language having minimal changes across 2800 years. In a little over 400 years, language has shifted enough that Shakespeare is a slog for most people. English didn't even exist 1700 years ago!
Yes, Koine Greek and Modern Greek do use an identical alphabet. Just like English and Vulgar Latin (the common tongue of Ancient Rome) also use the same alphabet.
That means nothing.
And that's not even getting started on the fact we lump multiple forms if 'Latin' under a single category and I keep meeting English speakers who claim that Latin and Italian are mutually intelligible.
There is a vast difference even between Latinitas (the speech of the good families aka Latin for Rich Ponces), Vulgar Latin (common tongue, the one with the best rude words and where the English word vulgarity comes from) and Ecclesiastical Latin (the language of the Church. It applies an Italian-esque pronunciation to Latinitas grammar and yes, it's as weird as it sounds).
I'm not what I would call fluent in Koine Greek or Ecclesiastical Latin. For all I have studied them at university, the focus was etymology not instinctive fluency, I can read both, and I can mentally translate them faster than most. I cannot speak either and constructing a sentence will still take me an hour or more. But I also struggle with English grammar, so the fact I can read them but not speak/write them isn't entirely surprising.
I am not an expert, and I am still super new to fanfics. I am not here to tell anyone what to do. But I do adore research and have an unending need to info dump on everyone else.
Next time you sit down to write a new awesome fanfic, if you're going to play with languages (and you totally should, it's awesome), take a minute to remember just how long ago Ancient Greece was, and if you want your characters speaking modern Greek, please, for the love of the gods, don't claim they do it because they can speak Archaic/Koine Greek. You have a glorious world filled with magic and a god of languages and communications. You have so many options.
Though, honestly, whatever you do, it still won't ever reach RR's interesting translations. From virtually every attempt to include any form of Archaic/Koine Greek up to the Latin form of the Prophecy of Seven which has the enemies of the state carrying decorative trinkets to the door of death. And there's Anaklusmos. Which... Never mind. Let's just say the translations are questionable as a whole and stick with calling the sword Riptide.
And I think that's it for my judgey pet peeves series. I am aware I'm the only one likely to be so bothered by this, and I would be a lot more okay with it if canon actually had decent translations, but instead the issue just keeps compounding.
After reading your latest posts, I 💯 predict that there will be a new archeological or anthropological discovery. And when asked about, the person will say they only wanted to write fanfiction. The research was only to write a more accurate fic. They didn't mean to accidentally piece together this breakthrough. It was only supposed to be a labor of love for the fandom.
To be more serious, thank you for all of the research you do. It makes for such interesting world building and compelling glimpses into actual Greco-Roman mythology. Your fics are some of my favorites.
Aww thank you! I am very much enjoying info dumping on people!
Though I'm afraid my years in academia are now well behind me. While my area of study wasn't Greco-Roman myth it was... let's say tangentially related. But before university and too many degrees and essays, my first love was the religions of the ancient world, and now, *mumble* decades later, it is easily accessible on the internet and I can immerse myself in all of it from the comfort of my home.
I do so love the age of the internet!
I'm so glad people enjoyed Weirdest Prophet! The Sorority of Jason Grace is an ongoing challenge to balance the academic with the funny, and it is yet to be seen if I will succeed LOL.
Thanks again!
AKA: Why Homer and Ovid are not the same, and claiming that they are is as ridiculous as saying Beowulf, Lord of the Rings and the Hail Mary Project are the defining texts of Christianity.
This has been on my mind frequently as I keep researching things for the Sorority of Jason Grace, and spending a lot time wandering through the Percy Jackson fandom.
Creative writing is new to me, but academia is not. I am all for people using as much artistic license as they want, writing based on vibes or asking 'what if' and running riot. It's awesome, and I love it.
I also have a pet peeve about authors who say they didn't use artistic license and this is entirely correct and proper because [insert x] said so. When it comes to PJO writers and Greco-Roman myth, the [insert x] is often Euripides, Pseudo-Apollodorus or Ovid.
And it occurred to me that very few people understand where Greco-Roman actually comes from. Which led to me realising that the easiest way to explain the issue is with this statement:
Claiming that the works of Ovid and Homer are the same story and discuss the same myths is the same as claiming that Beowulf and the Lord of the Rings tell the same story, and that both are defining texts of the mythology of Christianity.
(Before someone decides to yell about me calling it Christian myth, please look up the theological definition of the word 'myth'.)
For the 0.2 people who may be interested, here's the breakdown on why:
We group all Greco-Roman myth into a single big mush of texts. Chronologically, it usually starts with the works of Homer & Hesiod (contemporaries writing around 750BCE-ish) and carries all the way through to Nonnus' Dionysiaca in 450 CE. Many also include John Tzetzes who was writing in 1150CE-ish.
If you didn't catch it, those dates are in BCE and CE. There is 1200 years between Homer/Hesiod & Nonnus. That's one thousand and two hundred years.
We are also missing the Actual Religious Texts of Greco-Roman religion. What survived is the popular mass media, especially the plays that people loved the most, and not the no-doubt precious scrolls kept within the temples.
If we wanted to replicate this for the mythology of Christianity and bring it to modern time, this is what it looks like.
The year is 3602CE and in a university somewhere in the galaxy, a lecture titled 'The Primary Sources of Christian Myth' is about to begin.
After a brief introduction about the difficulties in analysing the texts of Christian myth because the authors constantly contradict themselves, a list of the texts that will be studied this semester is provided to the students.
These texts are:
Beowulf
Canterbury Tales
Paradise Lost
Sir Gawain & the Green Knight
Hamlet
Henry Boyd's English translation of The Divine Comedy (aka Dante's Inferno)
Gulliver's Travels
Lord of the Rings
Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows
Twilight
The Da Vinci Code
Hail Mary Project
Yes, I'm serious. If you are staring at this list and already drafting your rant, let me remind you; Ovid is rolling in his grave over being wildly described as an author of myth and not the subversive author writing scathing political commentary that he actually was.
(I love Ovid, I genuinely do, and I hate that we no longer acknowledge why he was writing. And if you cannot see why I would consider both Tolkien's Lord of the Rings and Ovid's Metamorphosis to be political works critiquing absolute power, authoritarianism, totalitarianism and corruption through the lens of popular fiction, then I beg you to re-read them with a much more critical mind.)
Each of the texts listed references Christianity or has Christian themes.
Now, the Bible wouldn't be included in this university course because, like with the Greco-Roman texts, the Bible was just so well known, a copy was never added into the 'highlights of Christian myth'. After all, why would anyone need to preserve it? It's just a given that people in the future would have a copy. Right?
Conflating Homer and Ovid is the same as claiming that Lord of the Rings and Beowulf tell the same story.
Why I'm making no progress on Sorority of Jason Grace:
I got distracted trying to find the source of the 'Hesiod' reference to Pasiphae, because I could have sworn she didn't exist before Euripides got a hold of the bloody story. (I was right. The 'Hesiod' reference is from Tebtunis Papyri 690, it's nonsensical, too fragmented too read and was written at least 600 years after Hesiod.
I got distracted trying to work out where the Tydeus the Cannibal story comes from and why it's attributed to Homer. (for once, it wasn't Euripides. The fragment attributed to Homer is actually from Statius' Thebaid, from the 90's CE).
I couldn't decide if Odysseus's was going to be a mortal Athena was attached to, or her created kid, so I just had to go read the Odyssey.
Then I got distracted reading every actual Greek myth about Triton.
Followed by a side step into Sisyphus's story and heritage.
Which turned into reading fragments in their original Greek about Deucalion.
I hate Chiron and don't wanna write the next scene involving Chiron so I am studying like I'm about to write a whole new master's thesis on Greco-Roman myth.
Honestly, the sole reason is how much I hate Chiron. Actual Kheiron is amazing. But the only aspect of Myth Kheiron that RR used was the name. The latinised form of it anyway.
Something nobody prepares you for is that the better you get at writing the harder it becomes. beginners write freely because they don't know enough to know what's wrong. then you learn. and suddenly you can see every single flaw in real time as you're making it and you have to write anyway while your own brain is in the corner going "that's a weak verb. that transition is lazy. you've used that word three times." getting good at this is mostly just getting better at ignoring yourself.
So, writing slowed to a crawl for a bit, partly because I kept getting distracted by new rabbit holes, and partly because the non-fanfic story I'm toying with is occupying more and more of my brain. I'd apologise, but I am so stunned/awed/happy that my brain has decided to be creative, so I don't exactly feel any guilt about it.
But the world building on that now needs more time to percolate, so writing is increasing in pace again on SoJG.
The word count is currently at 144k, and given the length of the finished chapters, and the number of chapters only outlined or containing snippets, I'm expecting a final length of somewhere around 210-240k. Long, I know. But it's fanfic and the first 68k cover the five years between Jason arriving at CHB and the Winter Solstice theft. I have discovered fanfic lets me indulge my constant overflow of words and I'm running with it.
So I still have a lot of writing to go on the first story, but all the problems are sorted out, everything is outlined, even the fight scenes and whenever I do sit down and seriously write, I should be able to bang out the rest of it pretty fast now that I'm moving past the mid-fic slumpiness.
Once it's written, I have a very lovely beta who will check I haven't lost the plot entirely, and then we'll do the editing/review chapter by chapter, posting (probably) once a week, since if I post a chapter a fortnight it will take nearly a year to post the whole thing and that is such a hard no from me.
Weirdest Prophet is it's usual headache and I am still trying to get my head around Obsidian so I can start the world bible from scratch. It'll happen when it happens, Canon HoO makes me cry, and until it feels fun again, it will survive with me adding random sentences each day.
SoJG is at that delightful point where characters start adding in their own opinions and I'm left wondering when the hell they gained sentience, and why aren't you fighting, you were meant to be fighting, not getting pissed on behalf of the demigods...
And then Gladiola showed up and well...
Have a snippet:
“Jason, you cannot keep the dog.”
“He has been dyed pink. His fur is brittle. The dye has damaged him.”
“Or they wash him too much and the shampoo affected the fibre. Look, see, his skin is fine.”
Annabeth parts the fur and shows Jason the perfectly healthy skin. Yes, they both know far too much about preparation of natural fibres, but as the fur is still attached to the dog, Annabeth is assuming Gladiola is just fine. She’s ignoring how filthy he is.
At least — unlike Lyle after Jason’s been sparring a bit too viciously with the war kids — he doesn’t have additional suspicious substances matted in. That lot take pride in making each other bleed. It’s disturbing.
“He will like camp.”
“He’s not Lyle, Jace. He’s an actual dog.”
“He’s coming with us.”
Annabeth blinks and wonders how the hell this has become her problem. Time for a new angle. The little pink ball of fluff can’t be more than four pounds. Annabeth’s xiphos is heavier than this thing.
“Jace, he’s a toy poodle. He is smaller than Little Lyle, who you still call a white rat. He has no other form. This dog is a literal white rat. Well, pink rat.”
“His name is Gladiola.”
“Yes? It’s a flower.”
“A flower named after a Roman short sword.”
“What is it with you and swords? It’s a poodle!”
Jason holds the dog to his chest and nods seriously. “My poodle.”
Step One: Get an Idea
Step Two: Deliberately avoid writing Idea because I already have a thousand other stories to write.
Step Three: Give in and start writing Idea
Step Four: Write a LOT, but (and this is key) do not finish the story.
Step Five: Writing hangover; reread what I’ve already written to try to kick-start momentum again.
Step Six: Realize that everything I’ve ever written ever is complete rubbish and I should just give up.
Step Seven: Despair.
Step Eight: Avoidance; set story aside ‘for just a day or two,’ until I can be more objective about what I just wrote.
Step Nine: Do not look at story for weeks, if not months.
Step Ten: Reread story, realize that it’s not as bad as I thought. Return to Step Four. Repeat.
Have another random info dump and vent about esoteric shit:
So, the premise of The Sorority of Jason Grace is that with the fall of the remaining divine power of Rome, all purely Roman myth has disappeared from the world other than what the mortals recorded. Outside of a small handful of times where I use bits of things first attested to after 2nd C BCE (and spend a hell of a lot of time rationalising their existence in universe), everything is solely from Ancient Greece.
I'm now at the extreme-nerd level of having ditched Theoi as 'not accurate enough' and am now relying on Topostext and the original Greek texts on Perseus Digital Library.
And, like, I was already a nerd. When I was eight years old, I got my eager lil hands on an English translation of Herodotus's Histories and I fell in love. Just complete adoration for this guy's obsession with recording 'fact' 2500 years ago. Then I learned about how much he was dumped on throughout history for making stuff up, only for us to discover, 2500 years later, that Herodotus was right. We still label a bunch of his stuff as fanciful and solely myth, but I predict that after another thousand years of archeological digs, that list of Herodotus's fanciful myths will be much much smaller.
Herodotus is my guy.
Writing SoJG has meant spending a lot of time on primary sources and now have opinions on different writers that I doubt I could even name before I started writing SoJG.
Pindar? Never read a word of his stuff before this. Now, I love him. Weird random myth asides that aren't completely off-book are super useful.
Homer is, of course, the GOAT, and, while I am usually hesitant to make actual historical figures demigods since it takes away from their achievements, I feel Homer wouldn't mind someone crowning him as a demigod. Esp. given who I gave him as a parent.
Homer and Hesiod are awesome. Pindar is my bud. Plato is cool. Herodotus is the bestest.
Euripides on the other hand...
I never knew that I could have such strong opinions about a guy who wrote plays 2500 years ago.
He's bloody Disney! And I don't mean it as a compliment.
I adore the Grimms' fairytales. I also enjoy watching Disney movies. I still hate that the original horrifying fairytales are almost forgotten in place of singing and dancing princesses in pretty dresses.
Euripides changes Medea's story completely.
Euripides changes Heracles's story completely.
Euripides is incapable of not 'innovating' and turning myths on their heads.
And while virtually none of his play Cretans has survives to the modern day, it's the first time Daedalus and the Minotaur are spun into a single story.
And since Euripides is very very dead, all the retaliation I can do is to refuse to make him a demigod.
In fanfic.
Because you know, all this is solely for fanfic. PJO fanfic. It's 'mildly' useful for my original fic world building bc, naturally, that also has a pantheon and historians and mythographers, but all my own invention.