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@didyougetmysteriousimagines
us, worrying about our faves’ well-being:
Horikoshi: lol, look at this cat
I, the wife of Ramsey Orta, am a survivor of domestic violence by Ramsey… Jessica Orta needs your support for Legal Fees & Support Fund to D
the following is the description from the gofundme page:
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I, the wife of Ramsey Orta, am a survivor of domestic violence by Ramsey Orta during the Black Lives Matter movement. For those of you who don't know me, my name is Jessica (Hollie) Orta, but I am known by Bella Eiko for live streaming the Occupy Oakland and Ferguson movements.
Over the last few years I have spoken out about my relationship, and marriage, to Ramsey prior to his incarceration. Ramsey physically, mentally, emotionally abused and financially extorted my son and I as I tried to position myself to organize support for him during his incarceration. After I drove to Las Vegas to avoid any further attacks from him, he used the money given to him by the movement to chase me down to Las Vegas and terrorize myself, my son and my then 82 year old Great Aunt. He often threatened me with gang violence and gave my address to people who wanted to harm me as punishment for not staying to endure more of his abuses while supporting him as he negotiated a lesser prison sentence.
In one of our altercations Ramsey physically attacked me by choking me and kidnapping my son for ransom money. You can imagine my shock because of him filming Eric Garner being murdered in the same way. The night before that attack, Ramsey verbally harassed me for not being able to hold in my urination after driving around for over half an hour looking for parking and then walking blocks trying to reach the apartment on Baruch in record breaking cold. These are only a few of the situations I have dealt with during our marriage.
I am asking that the movement that has been supporting Ramsey Orta to hold him, and those who knowingly shielded him from any repercussions for his actions, accountable for his domestic actions towards Black Women. I would also like to be able to go through a divorce process without him abruptly being able to stop it. In November of 2019, he backed away from the divorce proceedings, having his attorney tell me that he would be in touch, after I responded that I would want his assistance for long term therapy for my son and I after being exposed to his violence. Help in this area is greatly appreciated as it is more expensive than I can afford as a single mother.
I also would like the movements, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Oakland, Hands Up Don't Shoot & I Can't Breathe, to take action in keeping my son and I safe. I have had to move away from the city far from my friends and family because I feel I am in danger if I were ever to return, especially with him now having access to his welcome home fund, coupled with the blind support of many Black Lives Matter supporters.
I have been an organizer and given my life to this movement as a Black Woman, and this movement has only stood against me in support of Ramsey Orta. I am asking that this movement consider how it will move forward if it continues to silence Black Women and overlook the bad action of their heroes. The plausible alternatives for police in handling these kinds of situations moving forward are conversations that I’ve been trying to have for years.
I am not asking for police involvement. If I wanted to handle this with the police, I would have pressed charges on Ramsey but I am adamantly against the continuation of the prison industrial complex. I strongly believe in police abolition but we cannot continue to build a movement in which black women and black children continue to be targets of misogyny in their households. You cannot continue to praise someone for a single action, when they've attacked and perpetrated violence towards the most vulnerable people in your community. In order to talk about police abolition we must also talk about the future we wish to replace it with. We will not be able to accomplish that safe future if we don't hold accountable the actions of individuals that resemble those of the same patriarchal system.
With love & All Power to the People,
Bella Eiko”
i just saw this on twitter and i know i reblogged something about him before i knew so please if you can donate to her please do
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I’m in fear
what’s wrong with pictANS SANS SANS SANS SANS SAN
Hey he paid his fucking ticket leave him alone
Where he goin?
Kanye West’s house
Sunday already?
Not to be That Person, but tapeworms don’t have circulatory systems at all, let alone heartbeats.
Neither do the fetuses at the stage the heartbeat bills want to classify them as people, so this tweet works on multiple levels.
@keyhollow ?
So uh
Words are hard andnsometimes people don’t, really know what they mean, and it’s not their fault because a fuckload of people are doing it.
So when they say fetus, they mean embryo, which is different. I don’t know what heartbeat bill is being talked about, but the embryo doesn’t become a fetus until 8 weeks. It’s then a fetus until birth. Then it’s an external fetus. It becomes a baby when it’s cute lolol sorry jk
Anyway uh, the heartbeat starts at 22 days. Cardiac muscle loves doin what it does, but you can’t detect it by like, a stethoscope until age 5 weeks.
So. Not commenting on the elephant here, just giving the facts.
I’d think the elephant in the room would be comparing babies with tapeworms/parasites.
Fair. They’re in completely different families, humans and tapeworms, so nearly no similar features. Plus a fetus doesn’t qualify as a parasite
Children are a gift. Tapeworms are not. Among a million other differences lmao.
^ Truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
@bunny-carrothunter
“ Aaahhh, the good old abortion debate. Always a pleasure to see these. Me? Pro-choice. Why? Overwhelmed population. Adoption never guarantees the child will BE adopted. Risk of the woman’s life. “It’s murder!” It’ll be torture to the child if it lives in a home that doesn’t have the basics for their needs. And my favorite “Then don’t have sex!” Don’t use a child as a punishment for sex. Don’t threaten someone with a baby for having needs as a human. “
I don’t know why people try to make the abortion debate more complicated than it is needs to be.
Is what you’re trying to kill considered a human being? No, then you’re good.
Is what you’re trying to kill considered a human being? Yes, then ask yourself if the reason justifies killing.
Examples for Yes;
Can you kill your neighbor because of “overwhelmed population”? No, therefore you can’t perform an abortion.
Can you kill your neighbor because of “Risk of the woman’s life” (aka self-defense)? Yes, therefore you can perform an abortion.
Can you kill any orphan because they “never will be guaranteed to be adopted”? No, therefore you can’t perform an abortion.
Can you kill anyone that “lives in a home that doesn’t have the basics for their needs”? No, therefore you can’t perform an abortion.
Sex is not a “need”, it is a desire. A very healthy desire (in moderation and when responsibly performed), but not a need, you can live without having sex. Furthermore, you can have non-reproductive sex and obtain the same benefits, therefore even if you are subjective in your interpretation of “need”, then it is still not required.
To clarify though, I do not know if a fetus is a human being or not, but when in doubt, I always favor the side of life.
More importantly, children are not a punishment, children are a gift.
Lastly, for anyone wanting to be a parent, CONSIDER ADOPTION!
Children are a gift for people who want and equipped for them. Not everyone is which is fine and saying ‘well you got pregnant so you have to have them’ isn’t going to change those two things. It’s also not fair to blame someone and attempt to force them or shame them into changing their body and psychological state if they somehow end up pregnant without intending to be (my nephew’s mother found out she was pregnant at her appointment to get her birth control insert changed - shit happens).
If something is growing inside your body and you want it out, that’s your right. Especially at the point in pregnancy which most abortions are performed - and most if not all late term abortions are performed when the child would not be viable or viable without a great deal of pain with a likely short life or if the parent’s life is in danger. I personally believe if it cannot survive without being attached to a person’s body then it is considered apart of them and they have every right to decide how to take care of it, if that means abortion that is their right.
Also, let’s not pretend that more people wouldn’t die if abortions were illegal. You’d just be losing the fetus and the pregnant person because they’d be done with half-baked home methods or in unsterilized, unsafe environments by scared desperate people. You’d lose far more people to suicide since many would see no other options. If you advocate for abortion to be illegal knowing this then you aren’t siding with life, you’re siding with birth because the pregnant person is a human life too.
The abortion debate isn’t complicated at all. Is it your body? Are you a medical professional consulting with a human being that is pregnant on their options? No? Then it’s absolutely none of your business unless that pregnant person decides to ask for your opinion.
I think we as a generation need to stop being impressed by basic shit in relationships.
I think the impression meant to be left is that he’s not taking advantage of the situation. Get you a man that will undress you and put you in pj’s and your jewelery off before you pass out drunk. Get you a man that cares enough to take care of you ; even while you’re drunk.
Yeah uhhh that’s the bare minimum... I’m not gonna praise someone for not taking advantage of their significant other (or anyone) being drunk and making sure they get to bed safe.
check out this spotify playlist of men covering women’s songs without changing pronouns
nice
the same user made a playlist of women covering men’s songs without changing pronouns!
double nice
getting death threats for asking for help
Hello. I’m Rab, local queer, trans, disabled artist. I’m looking for work, I’m trying my hardest. I just had a month from literal hell with almost losing my housing, losing a pet, suffering from a concussion. I’m trying my best but it’s not cutting it. I’m in the negatives, and I need to pay rent. It was due 4 days ago, and if I don’t pay by tomorrow I’ll have another $75 to pay I can’t afford.
I don’t know when I’ll eat next, let alone if I’ll make rent. Just asking for help prompted someone to send me death threats and images of gore that made me close anon questions and my submit box.
PLEASE help me if you can, please spread the word.
Paypal: [email protected] (link)
Cashapp: $RDonations (link)
Venmo: @RHelpers (link)
Please help, they added a $75 fine today. I don’t want to lose my housing and I’m starving now–it’s been a full day since I ate and idk when I will be able to next.
I'm going to say this again and again and again until she takes that flag off her fucking account.
If she'd only dress up like that for Halloween, Drag Shows or Cosplay, I'd have no problem but she genuinely said she doesn't want to transition.
PEOPLE PLEASE USE YOUR BRAIN.
No comment on whatever Trish is doing, but oof. You don’t need dysphoria to be trans.
There are plenty of trans people that don’t physically transition and don’t intend to for whatever reason and it’s literally no one’s damn business besides their own.
There are also plenty of people that realize they are trans via gender euphoria rather than gender dysphoria. There are plenty of people that realize that being trans is a thing and are like ‘oh shit, that’s what I experience’. The trans experience does not have to consist of self hatred.
White supremacist trying to form a straight-pride parade accidentally lets truth slip at city council meeting
This is like something straight out of Parks and Rec
The Opposite of The 5 Stages Of Grief
Did he just call himself a “totally peaceful racist”?
Understand that certain spaces are not meant for you and act accordingly. I don’t know if it was the alienation experienced in high school or what, but you are not owed anything in spaces built by and for specific groups. Especially when it is obvious that it is not the actual humanity of said group you are interested in, but rather in making sure you aren’t left out, again.
@fluffmugger
op of this post is an aphobe who’s reblogged posts mocking the idea of asexuals being lgbt+ (X) and calling out the concept of the split attraction model as homophobic with the explicit goal of either cutting asexual people out of gay/bi/pan spaces or cutting other queer people out of ace spaces (X)
perhaps they didn’t have ace people in mind when they made this post but they absolutely use this mindset to cut asexual people out of queer spaces, so maybe don’t reblog this from them unquestioned
You know you’ve made it when you anger the ace community.
Anyway asexuals face no form of systemic oppression and although I understand the arguments for the existence of aphobia I’m not going to entertain them. Being ace is fine, but if you are straight or cisgender you do not belong within a community built by and for LGBT peoples. It’s that simple.
I’m a single person who happens to be ace thank you
“being ace is fine” doesn’t mean shit if you're aware of the pains that people go through for being asexual and intentionally, knowingly, and actively try to block them from receiving access to resources, spaces, and solidarity that they so desperately need. it doesn’t matter how positive you try to be while you do it, that is still violence
straight people don’t try to turn straight people straight, it’s that simple. tw rape mention start A study (X, X) was done on 39 universities in Australia with a sample size of 31,000 students that measured sexual assault and harassment statistics as well as weighed them based on sexuality. in it it was found that asexuality consistently shared the top with bisexuality, with a sexual assault rate higher than not only their straight counterparts but their gay and lesbian ones as well
I also have a second study (X) on hand that corroborates these numbers.
This time it was an survey launched in 2017 by the government equalities office questioning people in the UK 16 years or older, it was open for 12 weeks and received 108,100 valid responses. while it doesn’t have straight respondents as a control it Does filter out the results of trangender identified people so a sexuality that happens to have a higher percentage of trans people isn’t artificially inflated. they have results for trans participants in their own table, not listed here for space, if you’re curious on that
asexuals aren’t, statistically here in this chart, The Most Oppressed All The Time, but you can see how the numbers are comparable that’s a combined sample size of 139,100 that agrees that asexual people on average face a higher percentages of sexual assault and harassment that are at least on par with their gay counterparts. those kind of numbers just can’t be ignored
and again, you have countless personal stories of asexual people being harassed and even assaulted specifically because they’re ace, either because it marks them as being other to be out as ace or to explicitly try to turn them straight. frankly, none of them are my story to retell. so, I’m going to link this huffpost article on the subject (X) as well as tell a personal story with harassment.
thankfully it was comparatively mild, likely due to the location being abundantly public. this was literally the first time I’d ever told anyone I was ace, and I was about 13 or 14 at the time. I’d just moved over to a new school so while I was wandering about trying to find a new seat I got invited to sit with a group of seniors. I sat down, we chatted, and I gradually got more and more uncomfortable with how sexual they were being, which mind you they were 18 years old. I decided to tell them that I was ace because it seemed like the safer option at the time. they didn’t know what it was so I told them in detail, they argued that I was wrong and that it was the old scientific definition, they pulled out google, looked at Several pages about asexuality, and then said that we were “both right.”
I thought that was the end of it but this man turned, looked me right in the eye, and said “I can fix you (...) like I did with that lesbian” as you can probably imagine, my child mind wasn’t yet equipped to properly respond to that, but in my panicked state I managed to remind him about our age difference and he finally dropped it, but Boy was that a lot to unpack. but like, that spells it out doesn’t it? I explained In Detail what asexuality was, I gave him no romantic orientation and I wouldn’t understand that I was trans for several years after that, so the only thing he could latch onto was that I was asexual. and Yet as soon as he understood he A: decided that I was broken and needed to be Fixed, preferably with his penis and B: automatically lumped asexuality in with other non-straight sexualities without me telling him
it’s not Just that asexuals face higher levels of rape and sexual harassment, it’s that it happens because we’re specifically othered for our sexualities and hurt with the intention of being “fixed.” and it’s very explicitly tied together with the same hatred that leads to the same thing happening to other lgbt+ members. that does Not happen to straight people, not unless they’re also trans.
even if you somehow for some reason believe that straight people rape other straight people with the explicit goal of changing their sexuality to then be straight, you have to recognize that including asexuality in the queer community is essential to fixing this problem
if asexuals face an increased rate of rape because of prejudice against asexuals then the most effective way of decreasing the rate of rape that they face is to Address that prejudice. asexuals just having exposure by being included with other lgbt+ members on it’s Own is useful for that, but specifically helping to normalize them by inclusion during events like pride is an enormous help. moreover, having the numbers help. if nobody knows what asexuality is or if people actively fight to censor asexuality then studies done on say, sexual assault and harassment statistics in 39 australian universities wouldn’t report on the statistics of asexual people. and then people don’t Know that it’s a problem that needs to be addressed.
Moreover, suicide hotlines specifically trained to speak to asexual people? kind of useful in cases like these.
even if, for whatever reason, you still don’t want to count this as oppression, which it is, it cannot be denied that blocking asexual people from these resources actively causes harm to asexual people, and that knowingly doing that Is A Bad Thing.
tw rape mention end
tw conversion therapy mention start
you probably have an idea of what I’m about to get into now, but well if you didn’t want proof of systemic oppression then we wouldn’t need to get into the nitty-gritty
We’re going back to the uk study (X) for this one, which remember had a sample size of 108,100.
asexuals were the most likely to be offered conversion therapy and tied for the most likely to actually be put through it. of course this isn’t the end all be all, it wasn’t a study on every person who has ever existed in the world, but it tells us that something is wrong again, I can’t get into the specifics without sharing personal anecdotes, however this time I don’t have any to share of my own, which is obviously a good thing but it means that I will need to speak in more general terms. However, here’s an article on psychology today that goes into the experiences of asexuals with conversation therapy (X) as well as someone speaking of their own experiences on their blog (X) and for flavor here’s a fox news article arguing that asexuality is just a disorder that needs to be cured (X) and a post that goes a little more in detail on the general patholization of asexual people (X) and a post talking about the treatment of low or no sex-drive in women in asylums tw rape mention (X) there’s definitely more out there but honestly I’m not in the emotional state to go down That particular rabbit hole, at least not when there’s no guarantee that you’ll even look at what I have written already
it’s hard to say exactly how prevalent, how painful, how intentionally malicious this all is, there just hasn’t been enough research looking into the issue, at least not that I've personally found. but what I Do know is that it’s not uncommon for medical professionals to prescribe asexual people with medication they don’t need or want, in one case that I saw a woman was prescribed with viagra which doesn’t even work on women and I’ve seen Multiple cases of cis women being prescribed testosterone and experiences body dysmorphia from what it did to them, in an attempt to Force them to feel attraction they don’t want. in other cases I’ve seen asexual people have medication taken away from them that they needed for their mental health when they came out to their therapists. and of course literally being told by your doctor or therapist to force yourself to have sex until you’re “fixed,” or to tell your spouse to for themselves on you without you agreeing to it. often times this all comes on top of emotional abuse by family members or even therapists and medical staff
and that’s all just from what I personally have seen by looking into the issue in my spare time when I can stomach it.
again, this would not happen if cis straight society viewed asexuality as normal, if it viewed asexuality as straight. you cannot argue that a straight person would be sent through conversion therapy, assigned drugs and told to force themselves into sexual situations they aren’t comfortable with and sometimes can’t consent to at all, and traumatized because other straight people want them to be straight. straight people see asexuality as a sickness that needs to be cured. they’re telling us that, they’re hurting us to try to bend us into what they think we should be. none of that is okay
which again, even if you don’t think that’s oppression, which it /is/, you have to admit that it’s a problem worth fixing and one that asexuality has in common with other lgbt+ identities, and one that the lgbt+ community can help Deal With
tw conversion therapy mention end before I move on, here’s some other Fun statistics from the uk study, which again had a sample size of over 100,000
there’s of course more here if you’re interested (X)
I’d go into the personal suffering of asexual people more but I’m frankly tired and if that isn’t enough for you then the issue here is a fundamental difference in morals. so I’m going to get to my next point, that being that asexuals have existed throughout history and have existed in lgbt+ spaces for decades, possibly even hundreds of years.
a recent great find was “The Asexual Manifesto,” written by Lisa Orlando in 1972 (X, X, X)
“We chose the term “asexual” to describe ourselves because both “celibate” and “anti-sexual” have connotations we wished to avoid: the first implies that one has sacrificed sexuality for some higher good, the second that sexuality is degrading or somehow inherently bad. “Asexual”, as we use it, does not mean “without sex” but “relating sexually to no one”. This does not, of course, exclude masturbation but implies that if one has sexual feelings they do not require another person for their expression. Asexuality is, simply, self-contained sexuality.”
this is a source just shy of 50 years old explicitly using the term asexual in it’s modern definition and just a year later you see it crop up again in publish photography (X) and another print that includes asexuality along with other lgbt+ identities, this time from 1970 ! (X) and here’s a masterpost with sources with proof that the bisexual and asexual communities heavily mixed up until relatively recently (X) and a post going into how asexuals were targeted as being queer during the 19′s, particularly in relation to the spinster movement (X) and yet another post of asexuals/asexual behavior being lumped in with other queer people throughout the 1900s (X)
I could go on but I’d really only subject myself to More reading if I knew for a fact you were going to read it. So ! the takeaway here is that excluding asexuals now isn’t a decision on whether or not asexuals should Start being a part of the queer community, it’s choosing to deliberately undermine decades and possibly hundreds of years worth of shared history between asexuals and other queer people, which will specifically deny them resources to deal with oppression against them while Also trying to convince other people that they don’t need help, thus contributing to the rape and abuse of another minority group
which isn’t exactly, you know, fantastic so that leaves us with the question of whether or not you simply didn’t understand the situation or if you’re willfully ignorant, ignoring the truth in order to justify prejudice, and unfortunately I can’t answer that question
so to close us off, why don’t we ask cishet people what they think of asexuality for a moment
@velvetvetiver
you reblogged my first response the same day I sent it but you haven’t touched this version? if you already fully understood the situation before you sided with exclusionism then you should be able to counter what I’ve said here. and if this is new information for you then the right thing to do would be to reconsider your opinion, not pretend it isn’t there
Anyways asexuals aren’t LGBT but thanks for trying sweetie.
Anyways asexuals, aromantics, and aroace people ARE apart of the LGBT+ community sweaty. Thanks for trying.
i think one of the things i want to start learning in 2018 is how to make clothes. how do you start doing that?
YouTube tutorials! YouTube tutorials are honestly a gift from the heavens, if you’re like me and find in-person sewing classes really stressful. My personal favourite (and by “personal favourite” I mean “she basically singlehandedly taught me to sew) is Annika Victoria, who makes videos showing how to make common/popular clothing items like crop tops and circle skirts and how to replicate overpriced high fashion items. She also has a website with text-based tutorials and other resources.
!!! thank you so much!
you’re very welcome! I went to exactly one (1) in-person sewing class, which was full of cliquish wine moms who scared me, so I was very relieved to find that I could learn from the comfort and privacy of my own home, where only my cats would judge me.
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We are multiple generations now with no experience with strikes, and I see a lot of confused, well meaning people who want to help but don’t know strike etiquette.
1. Never cross a picket line of striking workers.
2. Never purchase or take free goods from a company who’s workers are striking
3. Honk to support strikers if you drive by a picket line.
4. Join strikers on the picket line even if it’s not your strike, but follow their directions and defer to them while there.
5. Say “that’s great, the strike is working, the company should negotiate with their workers” whenever someone complains about profits lost, inconveniences or other worker-phobic rhetoric. Always turn it back on the company, who has all the power and money.
UBER + LYFT ARE STRIKING IN SOME CITIES ON MAY 8th! RESPECT THIS AND REFUSE TO TAKE EITHER ONE ANYWHERE. NOWHERE. NO, NOT EVEN IF YOU TIP EXTRA. THAT STILL COUNTS AS A PICKET LINE.
yo if you can afford, and do, regularly take lyft or uber you’re part of the problem in the first place regardless of how you interact with strikes lmao
Why? It’s a service that’s great for people without easy access to other forms of transportation and more fairly priced and reliable than cabs - though obviously Uber and Lyft drivers should be paid more by the company for their services. If someone needs the transportation, how does that make them the problem?
I'M DOING AN EXPERIMENT
To prove something to a friend, please
REBLOG IF YOU THINK ASEXUALS BELONG IN LGBTQ+ SPACES
LIKE IF YOU THINK ASEXUALS DON’T BELONG IN LGBTQ+ SPACES
REBLOGGING SO HARD.
YOU BETTER FUCKING BELIEVE IM REBLOGGING WTF
GET 👏🏼 RID 👏🏼 OF 👏🏼 ACE/AROPHOBIA 👏🏼
im gonna reblog this everytime i see it ,,
REBLOG THIS ALREADY!
I have never ignored a like button in my entire exsistance on this blue/teal whatever y'all colour it website tungle dot com!
As an ace myself, the amount of likes on this post doesn’t go well with me.
☝️My thoughts exactly. I don’t like it.
guys please
It concerns me that ace people have such a tough time with this.
Aces don’t deserve this shit.
Aces deserve better???? Wow???
Don’t know if I already reblogged but damn if I won’t do it regardless!
GUYS
IF YOU SUPPORT ASEXUALS
REMEMBER NOT TO LIKE! PPL KEEP FORGETTING AND ACCIDENTALLY LIKING IT
I ACCIDENTALLY LIKED IM SORRY BUT YES THEY DO!
“wow all these lesbians are so cute and nice and i can’t stop thinking about them! 🤔 …i guess i just think they’re neat!”
If a terf as much as breathes on this post I will curbstomp them
does terf mean lesbian in this context? bc heterosexual males with conversion fantasies are terrifying.
1st of all. Not neccessarily. Sure some terfs are lesbians but I terf is just a radical “feminist” who denies the existence of transgender individuals
2nd of all who the fuck invited you
well see i was curious if you meant it as “any homosexual female who doesn’t appreciate this heterosexual male fetishizing our existence and demanding the right to identify into our dating pools after clearly stating our innate sexuality is a choice and we can’t maintain boundaries against the opposite sex”
She’s a girl that likes girls get over it
Like I understand if you just like what’s down there on an afab individual that’s chill but don’t attack girls who like girls wether they’re trans or not just let people live their life
attack? where’s the attack? nobody cares that this male likes the opposite sex. we care bc this is an attack on lesbians, as well as a threat. being a lesbian isn’t a choice. lesbians have the only sexuality exclusive to biological females. the are wlw spaces this straight trans woman is welcome in, but it’s fucked up that they started out stalking lesbian spaces and now pretend to be one as if that isn’t homophobic at best and dangerous at worst. trans women kill lesbians bc we aren’t attracted to them. trans women started a corrective rape campaign called the cotton ceiling bc they want to fuck us against our will.
lesbians aren’t male or attracted to males, get over it. this hetero male can live their life but not mine.
nobody’s attacking a straight person for being straight. heterophobia isn’t real.
why don’t you care about homophobia? are you a big lesbian porn fan too?
First of all if a girl only likes girls shes a lesbian it’s pretty damn simple second of all can you tell me when and where a lesbian was killed/raped by a trans lesbian? Any facts to back it up?
Oh and Marsha P. Johnson a trans woman didn’t start a riot so you could be a crusty ass lil shit on tumblr
there isn’t anything more useless to homosexuals than gender. if someone is biologically females and exclusively same sex attracted, they’re a lesbian. the trans woman with the corrective rape fetish doesn’t meet even 1 of the only 2 criteria to be a lesbian.
are you seriously asking for receipts after so many examples of trans spree killers and sex offenders? go look up dana rivers, he’s on trial in california right now. he was a famous trans activist who shut down the michigan women’s music festival so lesbians couldn’t have a week in the woods by themselves and bc nobody told him no means no, he murdered a black lesbian couple and their son.
marsha p johnson was also exclusively same sex attracted and didn’t believe being gay was a choice. she didn’t start any riot either. if you meant stonewall, everyone knows a black lesbian named storme delarverie incited the riot and marsha got there late.
here’s marsha saying she wasn’t at stonewall at the start of the riot: https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/episode-11-johnson-wicker
facts? you don’t seem very concerned about facts. stop making shit up bc you disagree with our right to be lesbians.
How I picture you atm
you were caught in a lie, being homophobic lol. how pathetic. but we should’ve seen this coming from an “lgbtphobe” pedophile
You don’t know how to read do you if you would’ve read the little “Anti at the beginning you would’ve known I’m against all that you dumbass
then use dni instead of anti bc that just reads like how you identify. it’s not my fault you lack clarity. also there’s no such thing as an “lgbtphobe” there are already words for that. and how can you be homophobic but against “lgbtphobes”? once again you make no sense.
I did it because it sounds better than anything else when I wrote it and I did it because I atleast let trans people LIVE THEIR FUCKING LIFE unlike you
Like wether it’s a gay trans guy or a lesbian trans girl how about you mind your own fucking buisness and take your crusty blatantly transphobic opinion elsewhere
there’s no such thing as a gay or lesbian heterosexual and you’re the transphobe erasing actual same sex attracted trans ppl, the real gay ones, the reason there’s a t on lgb, the ones who started the trans community. you hate gay ppl so much you even erase the trans ones. how fucking nasty.
it’s fact not opinion that opposite sex attraction isn’t gay and being gay isn’t a choice.
nobody’s stopping trans ppl from living their lives. we’re stopping them from harming homosexuals. it’s my business when transhets hate and fetishize lesbians like me. fuck you. homophobia is real. homophobia exists. if you stopped validating every selfish and discriminating whim of a straight trans person, you’d remember gay ppl are oppressed bc we like the same sex only.
go fuck yourself, bigot.
How can someone be so fucking dense holy shit. you’re the one denying trans lesbians from being with other girls and you’re calling me the bigot the irony is killing me little shitty radfems like you are the ones toxic in the LGBT community
trans men who are homosexual and nonbinary female homosexuals have always been a part of the lesbian community. trans lesbians aren’t denied being with other girls.
do you mean trans women who like the opposite sex? straight trans women? well they’re not lesbians bc the word doesn’t apply to biological males. not sure why you see “respect lesbian boundaries” and “being gay is not a choice” as stopping trans women from having opposite sex relationships. keep in mind nobody can deny someone else dating or sex bc those aren’t public resources. nobody is owed sex or a date. also, heterophobia doesn’t exist. no straight trans woman is denied anything by lesbians liking the same sex. do you honestly believe in incel shit like the friendzone?
why the fuck would you call me a radfem? i’m not even a feminist. i’m a homosexual female. sure, straight men call us man hating feminists and transhets call us trans exclusionary radical feminists. but we’re born this way. get it through your skull, being a lesbian isn’t a political choice.
anyone who disagrees with homosexuality has no business talking about toxicity in the lgbt community.
When the fuck did I mention straight trans women are lesbians all I said was if a trans girl happens to be a lesbian she’s a lesbian
That’s it
I never mentioned anything about all trans women being lesbians
I’m wondering how you got through anything acting like that
it’s literally impossible for a biological male to be a lesbian, or for anyone attracted to the opposite sex to be a lesbian.
if a trans woman likes females they’re straight
why the fuck do you hate lesbians so much
Hi. I’m genderfluid and bisexual. By biological sex is female, not that that especially matters but you’re kind of a jackass so you might shrug off my opinion otherwise. Anyway: not so kindly, on behalf of all wlw that aren’t transphobic, fuck off.
A trans woman that is interested in only woman is a lesbian. Because she is a woman with primary attraction to women. A trans man only attracted to men would be homosexual as he is a man only attracted to men. Is that really so hard for you to get through your skull?
Woman likes only women = lesbian.
It’s not that hard.
according to you, everyone has the capacity for opposite sex attraction and the gay trans ppl like sylvia rivera & marsha p johnson who were homosexual, identified as gay, and were responsible for the t on the lgb community of same sex attracted ppl were actually straight.
you’re so gender blinded and ignorant. sorry, lesbians aren’t attracted to anyone who identifies as a woman and sometimes we date trans men. not being attracted to trans women doesn’t make us transphobic anymore than it makes us heterophobic or sexist.
why are all bisexuals like this? you like males and females. that’s bisexuality. the rest of us aren’t like you. nobody is attracted to gender. if you used the acronym wlw then you should already know lesbians aren’t women who love women. we’re homosexuals. since you used that word to describe straight trans men let me correct you again:
if it’s so simple, then listen to actual gay ppl instead of even erasing homosexual trans ppl bc you’re offended that everyone doesn’t like the opposite sex just bc you do.
no scientist, lawmaker, or dictionary uses those words like you do. that’s a good sign you’re wrong even if an actual same sex attracted gay homosexual lesbian wasn’t already telling you what a bigoted idiot you are.
edit: nevermind, this user reblogs from that pedo nerdylilpeebee. a bisexual who believes attraction to little kids is fine but exclusively to the same sex is not. can you believe it.
I never said anything about who you can and cannot personally be attracted to. I said that a trans woman is a woman and if she is attracted solely to women then she is a lesbian.
A woman that likes only women is a lesbian.
If you aren’t attracted to and don’t want to date a trans woman then that’s fine. Not everyone is compatible. If you don’t want to date a trans woman BECAUSE she is trans then yeah, that’s kind of icky.
wlw is a term that literally means women that have romantic and/or sexual love for women wtf???
I didn’t use homosexual for a straight trans man because I never talked about straight trans men? I said a trans man only attracted to men. That would make him gay.
You’re not even twisting my words you’re literally putting words I’ve never said in my mouth. I straight up never talked about how it’s a problem that some people aren’t attracted to the opposite sex. I said that a trans people attracted to their same gender are gay. Like wtf are you reading?
Also. You can be gay…and be wrong. Holy shit. Your sexuality doesn’t prevent you from being an asshole. Must be a surprise to you.
And don’t you dare try to paint me as a pedophile to demonize me. If I’ve reblogged from someone who says that it’s okay to be sexually attracted to children then it was an honest mistake. I’m constantly following people for memes they’ve posted and later unfollowing them for having gross opinions because surprise surprise: not everyone vets everyone that they follow for posting a funny pic. EDIT: I REBLOGGED FROM THE DISAGREEING WITH AN OPINION THAT THEY HAD ABOUT SOMETHING FUCKING OOF. So yes, I reblogged from a shitty person having an opposing opinion to theirs after I was scrolling through responses on a post. You got me XD
Anyway, yeah I have no idea where you got half the shit you’re talking about cause it wasn’t from my response lol.
you literally make no sense bc you’re making up your own language. sorry, gay means same sex attracted. homosexual means same sex attracted. dictionaries and laws are based on this. doctors and sociologists use these terms. there’s literally no such thing as a GAY PERSON attracted to the opposite sex. then anti sodomy laws, gay marriage bans, and gay adoption bans make no sense. there wouldn’t be corrective rape. there wouldn’t be conversion therapy.
how is anyone attracted to gender? that’s a fetish, to be attracted to exaggerated stereotypes of femininity and masculinity and gendered clothing. trans ppl aren’t attracted to “the same gender” they’re attracted to the opposite sex. we have words for that already: straight, heterosexual. they don’t like that? then they have words like queer and wlw/mlm. they are NOT entitled to erasing trans homosexuals and invading gay spaces, especially when they do not respect the fact we don’t share the same sexuality.
if lesbian and wlw mean the same thing, what do you call an exclusively same sex attracted biological female? what do you call lesbians who date trans men? what do you call agender lesbians? what do you call the homosexual trans pp who were gay activists and identified as gay? what do you call homosexual trans ppl in third genders that are culture specific?
how would you define homophobia if you let nongays call themselves gay?
will you allow homosexuals to make up new names and spaces, or do you expect any attempt of exclusively same sex attracted ppl to build community to be accessible to the opposite sex attracted who oppress us?
A. Woman. Attracted. To. Exclusively. Women. Is. A. Lesbian. This. Includes. Trans. Women.
Have I said it clear enough?
They identify as female because they are. That is their gender. Some of them will transition and have feminine parts and some won’t. No one is forcing you to date them either way. And your ‘exclusive community’ will be completely fine even with trans women. They aren’t evil people that will automatically hurt you. A person is evil, not a gender, not a sex.
“They are not entitled to erase trans homosexuals” what the fuck are you talking about. They ARE gay. In the broad umbrella term sense, they are gay. How are they erasing themselves by existing? I- shhhh.
A call an exclusively female attracted biological woman the same thing I call an exclusively female attracted trans woman- a lesbian. Or a women loving woman because literally that’s all wlw means. It just means a lady that loves over lady people.
And I’m not going to allow anyone to do anything because it’s not my place to decide how is allowed to do what. I’m not the LGBT+ gatekeeper. Do I understand everything about all things LGBT+? No. I’m still learning. But it’s not my place and it’s not yours to tell people that they are wrong in how they identify.
Pay attention; sexuality is very different to gender identity and gender dysphoria. Someone’s gender dysphoria does not change their sexuality or the sexuality of those around them. End of, its that simple.
It does not, but it does change what we call it. A man and a women attracted solely to women are experiencing the same thing: attraction to only women.
For a man, that would make them straight/heterosexual.
For a woman that would make her lesbian/homosexual.
As a trans woman is a woman, she is a lesbian if she is attracted either sexually and/or romantically only to women.
I get what you’re trying to say, but you’re using circular reasoning that holds absolutely no merit whatsoever. We’ve established someone’s dysphoria doesn’t change their sexuality or the sexuality of those around them. We’ve established that sexuality is innate and based off sex as opposed to gender expression and gender identity. I understand why you’d want to call a transwoman into cis women a lesbian, or PIV sex between a transman/cis man gay. But it’s not… it really isn’t and it wont ever be. Ignoring realities like this doesn’t make you progressive, it doesn’t make you an activist, it allows homophobia and conversion therapy rhetoric to leak into the community and it’s not fair on gay people.
No one is forcing anyone to have sex with anyone. If you personally don’t have an interest in having sex with a trans lesbian, then don’t. It’s literally that simple.
Also, not all trans women have penises? And not all trans men are bottoms or have vaginas. But, even if they do, they themselves are still lesbian/gay respectively because they are a female/male with an attraction solely to the same gender.
If someone is a homophobe or supports conversion therapy, that makes them a shitty person. It’s not a reflection on trans people.
I’m not telling lesbians that they have to have sex with trans women. I’m not telling them they have to date them. I’m saying that you can’t police their sexuality because you’re transphobic (which the other person absolutely is based on her repeated insistence on calling lesbian trans women ‘heterosexual males’)
They are a woman with attraction to solely women. Sounds pretty damn gay to me.
And this is where we’ve reached the full circle.
Firstly, I’m not a lesbian, I’m a gay guy. Secondly, what I mean by ‘the full circle’ is the endless merry go round gay people are on with trans activists/their allies. You say nobody is forcing me to have sex with a transman (since im not a lesbian). If nobody is forcing me or attempting to coerce me into having sex with a transman, why was the term ‘tehm’ created (Trans Exclusionary Homosexual Male) and is currently being used against gay men who don’t include transmen into their dating pools? When VICE interviewed a transman and asked him what it was like dating cis gay men, why did they use the term ‘dick-focused’ to describe us? If nobody is forcing gay people or attempting to coerce them into sleeping with trans people, why are we called genital fetishists? Why do people say we ‘reduce people to their genitals’? Why do trans activists tell us ‘hearts not parts’ (which, btw, is literally a conversion therapy slogan)? If nobody is forcing us or coercing us, if we ‘don’t have to’ sleep with trans people, why are we constantly told “What if you dated someone, got along so well with them, developed feelings for them, and then found out they were trans and hadn’t had bottom surgery? All those feelings would just go away”? Why are we told all these things literally all the time, whenever we reject trans people into our dating pools lmao? This is why I have rejected trans activism because there is a complete lack of responsibility from your end. You, personally, may not have said all these things, but the people you advocate with do, and they have said these things to me, many gay men, and many lesbians. So don’t tell me nobody is forcing me to sleep with trans people, or I don’t ‘have to’ sleep with trans people, because let’s be honest, sex is the ultimate form to you guys, and if I, or any other gay person doesn’t want to fuck you, we are dirty genital fetishists. This has to end and it’s about time your community starts taking responsibility.
Sorry, but considering how expensive and scary the surgery is, an overwhelming majority of trans people have not completely medically transitioned, and even if they have, if the answer is ‘no’ it’s a hard no. Your community has to learn to accept that.
Sorry, no, I reject that. Once again, your community and the people you advocate with have forced themselves into same sex attracted spaces (Dating apps, bath houses etc.). You continue to coerce us, manipulate us, call us disgusting, homophobic names, and literally use slogans used during conversion therapy. Then you expect me, and many other lesbians and gay men, to sit back and openly welcome these very same people into our community? To use the words gay and lesbian when they’re not even gay and lesbian? Sorry, not happening. Air out your dirty laundry, take responsibility, clean the skeletons in your closet first, and then maybe I’ll respect your ‘sexuality’. But since an overwhelming majority of you don’t accept mine or my sexual boundaries, it’s not happening.
If we’re going to go down that route then everyone is shitty to everyone and no one should interact because I’ve been discriminated against by pretty much everyone under the moon. Yeah, some people are shitty and have shitty opinions, you avoid those people and learn to not take it out on the not shitty ones. Cause otherwise I could go “well if the lesbians and gay community supports bisexuals then why do some of them say we don’t count or that bi women deserve whatever happens to them if they date men and treat bisexuals like they’re cheating whores that will sleep with anyone or like we can’t choose or that we HAVE to choose a side rather than choosing a person? Why are bisexuals constantly being erased by history and called gay or straight solely depending on who they end up with.” We could talk about how many bisexuals are propositioned continuosly for threesomes or how we’re expected to like everyone or our sexuality is questioned. Actually no matter what our sexuality is questioned and judged. We could talk about the constant pitting of bisexuals vs pansexuals and bisexuals vs transgenders as we’re accused of being transphobic because people will assume we are excluding trans people in our sexuality. Or we could talk about how there is a whole subsection of radical feminism that excludes transgender women and trans people in general. Or we could acknowledge that the loudest people are usually the shittiest.
Again: IM NOT THE ONE WHO IS HARPING ABOUT SEX.
The other person is the one making it all about sex. There is more to a relationship than sex which is why I had originally brought up asexuals who frequently have zero interest in what’s going on below the belt. I brought up bottom surgery because the other person was going on about the importance of genitals and how transwomen were predators that only wanted to have PIV sex with lesbians because clearly they’re not trying to actually develop a connection with someone experiencing the same thing as them. They were saying they could never love someone with a penis, so I asked if the other person had had the surgery would they count enough to them. I wanted to know where they drew the line, what it took for them to consider a trans woman a woman. I’m not saying you have to date them or have sex with them or anything - if others are then that’s on them, it’s not what I’m saying and I can only hold myself responsible for what I advocate, though those I’ve spoken to on this issue feel the same that I do - I’m saying that a trans lesbian woman as someone that identifies as a woman that is solely attracted to women is a lesbian.
If you don’t want to date a gay transman…don’t. Literally all I’m saying is whether you like it or not they’re apart of the community. You can choose to interact or not, but they are. Like I told the other person - just because they are gay/lesbian doesn’t mean they have to date another gay/lesbian person.
I’m not gonna force anyone to sleep with me or shame anyone for not wanting to because I’m not a shitty person or a rapist. I’m also not going to police other people’s sexualities cause (like I said) I’m not telling you that you have to sleep with or do anything with anyone that you don’t want to. You just can’t tell other women identifying people that they can’t identify with the sexuality that matches their gender and not expect me to think you’re a piece of shit for it. If you were straight or bi or ace or pan or anything else, I’d still think you were a shitty person if you were expressing the same opinion.
I’ll keep my response to your first paragraph short and sweet. Sexually coercing people is not ‘shitty behavior’ it’s rape culture and it should not be tolerated. Your community has an obvious problem with this and pinning it down to shitty behavior, especially when it encompasses things like conversion therapy/homophobia, is incredibly disheartening. Its an issue that your community needs to resolve, because like you said, the ‘shittest people’ are usually the loudest. If you don’t want to lose anymore support from the LG, deal with the shitty people. If you want to be an ally to the LG to lesbian women and gay men, stand up for us whenever you see this happening and speak out against it. I support people with dysphoria, I support their need to transition, and I want them to be as comfortable as possible. I support transwomen and want them to be safe when walking down the street, I support transmen and want to provide them with the support they require against male rapists, I support trans people 100%. But when their activism interrupts gay activism and women’s rights, I can’t support that part, simple. When the T was added to the LGB, a transwoman with a cis gay man was considered a homosexual relationship, it was considered a gay relationship. This idea that mlm transmen are gay is a recent development and it’s one that completely goes against LG activism and what we stand for.
I think you need to realize, although you’re not the one bringing up sex in this conversation, it’s obviously a very important component of the conversation that needs to be talked about. Because we are not asexuals, we are gay people, and while there is more to a relationship than sex, when two consenting adults are in a healthy relationship sex plays a major role…, this common sense. Like i said further, an overwhelming majority of trans people do not medically transition due to financial, safety and personal reasons, that is okay. But regardless, PIV sex is not gay, a lesbian or a gay man capable of enjoying the opposite sex’s genitalia is not gay. All these topics come with the conversation, and you continuing to state ‘transwomen who are solely into women are lesbians’ answers nothing…, it’s circular reasoning, its so surface and superficial orientated, you’re answering nothing you’re saying nothing. Completely denying homosexuality, acting like sexuality is gender based does not help trans people, it literally encourages delusional thinking and conversion therapy.
I’m sorry but…, trans people are part of the LGBT, yes lol, but ‘gay’ trans people are not part of the homosexual community. ‘Gay’ transmen are part of the mlm community, ‘lesbian’ transwomen are part of the wlw community, but they’re not part of the exclusively same sex attracted community; the gay community. Scientifically, socially, culturally, biologically, historically, they never were, and they’re currently not now. A bi, pan, ace, straight person etc. talking about this means nothing, but a gay person talking about this, me talking about this, these beliefs I have that are supported by science, history, personal experiences etc. hold merit and value because I’m a gay man and this is my community I’m talking about lol.
Like I said to the other person, they aren’t the only lesbian I’ve talked about this with. You aren’t the only gay person I’ve talked about this with. And they don’t share your opinion. I’ve talked to people for your community that are absolutely fine with the inclusion of trans men in the gay community.
I can understand your side and the big thing I’m saying is that I’m not trying to force any gay or lesbian person to have sex with anyone they don’t want to. My main argument literally has nothing to do with cis lesbians and gays. It has nothing to do with how you guys feel towards trans people.
Trans women and trans men aren’t only women and men respectively until it’s uncomfortable for you to think of them as such.
My argument isn’t “gay men have to date and have sex with trans men.” I don’t care what you do with your bodies, it’s not my business, it’s not my place. My argument is that regarding someone who identifies as a woman as a man is shitty and transphobic.
My argument is that a trans woman who likes only women is a lesbian because calling her heterosexual is ignoring her identity and treating her as a man. Whether she transitions or not, this is true and it’s not okay. It’s not any better than repeatedly referring to them by the wrong pronouns or wrong name and then going “well biologically-“
Lesbians don’t have to have date only lesbians. They can date bisexuals and pansexuals too. Same goes for gay men. No one is saying that just because a trans woman is a lesbian that someone else from the lesbian community has to date her.
“wow all these lesbians are so cute and nice and i can’t stop thinking about them! 🤔 …i guess i just think they’re neat!”
If a terf as much as breathes on this post I will curbstomp them
does terf mean lesbian in this context? bc heterosexual males with conversion fantasies are terrifying.
1st of all. Not neccessarily. Sure some terfs are lesbians but I terf is just a radical “feminist” who denies the existence of transgender individuals
2nd of all who the fuck invited you
well see i was curious if you meant it as “any homosexual female who doesn’t appreciate this heterosexual male fetishizing our existence and demanding the right to identify into our dating pools after clearly stating our innate sexuality is a choice and we can’t maintain boundaries against the opposite sex”
She’s a girl that likes girls get over it
Like I understand if you just like what’s down there on an afab individual that’s chill but don’t attack girls who like girls wether they’re trans or not just let people live their life
attack? where’s the attack? nobody cares that this male likes the opposite sex. we care bc this is an attack on lesbians, as well as a threat. being a lesbian isn’t a choice. lesbians have the only sexuality exclusive to biological females. the are wlw spaces this straight trans woman is welcome in, but it’s fucked up that they started out stalking lesbian spaces and now pretend to be one as if that isn’t homophobic at best and dangerous at worst. trans women kill lesbians bc we aren’t attracted to them. trans women started a corrective rape campaign called the cotton ceiling bc they want to fuck us against our will.
lesbians aren’t male or attracted to males, get over it. this hetero male can live their life but not mine.
nobody’s attacking a straight person for being straight. heterophobia isn’t real.
why don’t you care about homophobia? are you a big lesbian porn fan too?
First of all if a girl only likes girls shes a lesbian it’s pretty damn simple second of all can you tell me when and where a lesbian was killed/raped by a trans lesbian? Any facts to back it up?
Oh and Marsha P. Johnson a trans woman didn’t start a riot so you could be a crusty ass lil shit on tumblr
there isn’t anything more useless to homosexuals than gender. if someone is biologically females and exclusively same sex attracted, they’re a lesbian. the trans woman with the corrective rape fetish doesn’t meet even 1 of the only 2 criteria to be a lesbian.
are you seriously asking for receipts after so many examples of trans spree killers and sex offenders? go look up dana rivers, he’s on trial in california right now. he was a famous trans activist who shut down the michigan women’s music festival so lesbians couldn’t have a week in the woods by themselves and bc nobody told him no means no, he murdered a black lesbian couple and their son.
marsha p johnson was also exclusively same sex attracted and didn’t believe being gay was a choice. she didn’t start any riot either. if you meant stonewall, everyone knows a black lesbian named storme delarverie incited the riot and marsha got there late.
here’s marsha saying she wasn’t at stonewall at the start of the riot: https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/episode-11-johnson-wicker
facts? you don’t seem very concerned about facts. stop making shit up bc you disagree with our right to be lesbians.
How I picture you atm
you were caught in a lie, being homophobic lol. how pathetic. but we should’ve seen this coming from an “lgbtphobe” pedophile
You don’t know how to read do you if you would’ve read the little “Anti at the beginning you would’ve known I’m against all that you dumbass
then use dni instead of anti bc that just reads like how you identify. it’s not my fault you lack clarity. also there’s no such thing as an “lgbtphobe” there are already words for that. and how can you be homophobic but against “lgbtphobes”? once again you make no sense.
I did it because it sounds better than anything else when I wrote it and I did it because I atleast let trans people LIVE THEIR FUCKING LIFE unlike you
Like wether it’s a gay trans guy or a lesbian trans girl how about you mind your own fucking buisness and take your crusty blatantly transphobic opinion elsewhere
there’s no such thing as a gay or lesbian heterosexual and you’re the transphobe erasing actual same sex attracted trans ppl, the real gay ones, the reason there’s a t on lgb, the ones who started the trans community. you hate gay ppl so much you even erase the trans ones. how fucking nasty.
it’s fact not opinion that opposite sex attraction isn’t gay and being gay isn’t a choice.
nobody’s stopping trans ppl from living their lives. we’re stopping them from harming homosexuals. it’s my business when transhets hate and fetishize lesbians like me. fuck you. homophobia is real. homophobia exists. if you stopped validating every selfish and discriminating whim of a straight trans person, you’d remember gay ppl are oppressed bc we like the same sex only.
go fuck yourself, bigot.
How can someone be so fucking dense holy shit. you’re the one denying trans lesbians from being with other girls and you’re calling me the bigot the irony is killing me little shitty radfems like you are the ones toxic in the LGBT community
trans men who are homosexual and nonbinary female homosexuals have always been a part of the lesbian community. trans lesbians aren’t denied being with other girls.
do you mean trans women who like the opposite sex? straight trans women? well they’re not lesbians bc the word doesn’t apply to biological males. not sure why you see “respect lesbian boundaries” and “being gay is not a choice” as stopping trans women from having opposite sex relationships. keep in mind nobody can deny someone else dating or sex bc those aren’t public resources. nobody is owed sex or a date. also, heterophobia doesn’t exist. no straight trans woman is denied anything by lesbians liking the same sex. do you honestly believe in incel shit like the friendzone?
why the fuck would you call me a radfem? i’m not even a feminist. i’m a homosexual female. sure, straight men call us man hating feminists and transhets call us trans exclusionary radical feminists. but we’re born this way. get it through your skull, being a lesbian isn’t a political choice.
anyone who disagrees with homosexuality has no business talking about toxicity in the lgbt community.
When the fuck did I mention straight trans women are lesbians all I said was if a trans girl happens to be a lesbian she’s a lesbian
That’s it
I never mentioned anything about all trans women being lesbians
I’m wondering how you got through anything acting like that
it’s literally impossible for a biological male to be a lesbian, or for anyone attracted to the opposite sex to be a lesbian.
if a trans woman likes females they’re straight
why the fuck do you hate lesbians so much
Hi. I’m genderfluid and bisexual. By biological sex is female, not that that especially matters but you’re kind of a jackass so you might shrug off my opinion otherwise. Anyway: not so kindly, on behalf of all wlw that aren’t transphobic, fuck off.
A trans woman that is interested in only woman is a lesbian. Because she is a woman with primary attraction to women. A trans man only attracted to men would be homosexual as he is a man only attracted to men. Is that really so hard for you to get through your skull?
Woman likes only women = lesbian.
It’s not that hard.
according to you, everyone has the capacity for opposite sex attraction and the gay trans ppl like sylvia rivera & marsha p johnson who were homosexual, identified as gay, and were responsible for the t on the lgb community of same sex attracted ppl were actually straight.
you’re so gender blinded and ignorant. sorry, lesbians aren’t attracted to anyone who identifies as a woman and sometimes we date trans men. not being attracted to trans women doesn’t make us transphobic anymore than it makes us heterophobic or sexist.
why are all bisexuals like this? you like males and females. that’s bisexuality. the rest of us aren’t like you. nobody is attracted to gender. if you used the acronym wlw then you should already know lesbians aren’t women who love women. we’re homosexuals. since you used that word to describe straight trans men let me correct you again:
if it’s so simple, then listen to actual gay ppl instead of even erasing homosexual trans ppl bc you’re offended that everyone doesn’t like the opposite sex just bc you do.
no scientist, lawmaker, or dictionary uses those words like you do. that’s a good sign you’re wrong even if an actual same sex attracted gay homosexual lesbian wasn’t already telling you what a bigoted idiot you are.
edit: nevermind, this user reblogs from that pedo nerdylilpeebee. a bisexual who believes attraction to little kids is fine but exclusively to the same sex is not. can you believe it.
I never said anything about who you can and cannot personally be attracted to. I said that a trans woman is a woman and if she is attracted solely to women then she is a lesbian.
A woman that likes only women is a lesbian.
If you aren’t attracted to and don’t want to date a trans woman then that’s fine. Not everyone is compatible. If you don’t want to date a trans woman BECAUSE she is trans then yeah, that’s kind of icky.
wlw is a term that literally means women that have romantic and/or sexual love for women wtf???
I didn’t use homosexual for a straight trans man because I never talked about straight trans men? I said a trans man only attracted to men. That would make him gay.
You’re not even twisting my words you’re literally putting words I’ve never said in my mouth. I straight up never talked about how it’s a problem that some people aren’t attracted to the opposite sex. I said that a trans people attracted to their same gender are gay. Like wtf are you reading?
Also. You can be gay…and be wrong. Holy shit. Your sexuality doesn’t prevent you from being an asshole. Must be a surprise to you.
And don’t you dare try to paint me as a pedophile to demonize me. If I’ve reblogged from someone who says that it’s okay to be sexually attracted to children then it was an honest mistake. I’m constantly following people for memes they’ve posted and later unfollowing them for having gross opinions because surprise surprise: not everyone vets everyone that they follow for posting a funny pic. EDIT: I REBLOGGED FROM THE DISAGREEING WITH AN OPINION THAT THEY HAD ABOUT SOMETHING FUCKING OOF. So yes, I reblogged from a shitty person having an opposing opinion to theirs after I was scrolling through responses on a post. You got me XD
Anyway, yeah I have no idea where you got half the shit you’re talking about cause it wasn’t from my response lol.
you literally make no sense bc you’re making up your own language. sorry, gay means same sex attracted. homosexual means same sex attracted. dictionaries and laws are based on this. doctors and sociologists use these terms. there’s literally no such thing as a GAY PERSON attracted to the opposite sex. then anti sodomy laws, gay marriage bans, and gay adoption bans make no sense. there wouldn’t be corrective rape. there wouldn’t be conversion therapy.
how is anyone attracted to gender? that’s a fetish, to be attracted to exaggerated stereotypes of femininity and masculinity and gendered clothing. trans ppl aren’t attracted to “the same gender” they’re attracted to the opposite sex. we have words for that already: straight, heterosexual. they don’t like that? then they have words like queer and wlw/mlm. they are NOT entitled to erasing trans homosexuals and invading gay spaces, especially when they do not respect the fact we don’t share the same sexuality.
if lesbian and wlw mean the same thing, what do you call an exclusively same sex attracted biological female? what do you call lesbians who date trans men? what do you call agender lesbians? what do you call the homosexual trans pp who were gay activists and identified as gay? what do you call homosexual trans ppl in third genders that are culture specific?
how would you define homophobia if you let nongays call themselves gay?
will you allow homosexuals to make up new names and spaces, or do you expect any attempt of exclusively same sex attracted ppl to build community to be accessible to the opposite sex attracted who oppress us?
A. Woman. Attracted. To. Exclusively. Women. Is. A. Lesbian. This. Includes. Trans. Women.
Have I said it clear enough?
They identify as female because they are. That is their gender. Some of them will transition and have feminine parts and some won’t. No one is forcing you to date them either way. And your ‘exclusive community’ will be completely fine even with trans women. They aren’t evil people that will automatically hurt you. A person is evil, not a gender, not a sex.
“They are not entitled to erase trans homosexuals” what the fuck are you talking about. They ARE gay. In the broad umbrella term sense, they are gay. How are they erasing themselves by existing? I- shhhh.
A call an exclusively female attracted biological woman the same thing I call an exclusively female attracted trans woman- a lesbian. Or a women loving woman because literally that’s all wlw means. It just means a lady that loves over lady people.
And I’m not going to allow anyone to do anything because it’s not my place to decide how is allowed to do what. I’m not the LGBT+ gatekeeper. Do I understand everything about all things LGBT+? No. I’m still learning. But it’s not my place and it’s not yours to tell people that they are wrong in how they identify.
Pay attention; sexuality is very different to gender identity and gender dysphoria. Someone’s gender dysphoria does not change their sexuality or the sexuality of those around them. End of, its that simple.
It does not, but it does change what we call it. A man and a women attracted solely to women are experiencing the same thing: attraction to only women.
For a man, that would make them straight/heterosexual.
For a woman that would make her lesbian/homosexual.
As a trans woman is a woman, she is a lesbian if she is attracted either sexually and/or romantically only to women.
I get what you’re trying to say, but you’re using circular reasoning that holds absolutely no merit whatsoever. We’ve established someone’s dysphoria doesn’t change their sexuality or the sexuality of those around them. We’ve established that sexuality is innate and based off sex as opposed to gender expression and gender identity. I understand why you’d want to call a transwoman into cis women a lesbian, or PIV sex between a transman/cis man gay. But it’s not… it really isn’t and it wont ever be. Ignoring realities like this doesn’t make you progressive, it doesn’t make you an activist, it allows homophobia and conversion therapy rhetoric to leak into the community and it’s not fair on gay people.
No one is forcing anyone to have sex with anyone. If you personally don’t have an interest in having sex with a trans lesbian, then don’t. It’s literally that simple.
Also, not all trans women have penises? And not all trans men are bottoms or have vaginas. But, even if they do, they themselves are still lesbian/gay respectively because they are a female/male with an attraction solely to the same gender.
If someone is a homophobe or supports conversion therapy, that makes them a shitty person. It’s not a reflection on trans people.
I’m not telling lesbians that they have to have sex with trans women. I’m not telling them they have to date them. I’m saying that you can’t police their sexuality because you’re transphobic (which the other person absolutely is based on her repeated insistence on calling lesbian trans women ‘heterosexual males’)
They are a woman with attraction to solely women. Sounds pretty damn gay to me.
What’s “gay” about someone born male who wants to stick his dick in a lesbian? Lesbian is the 2nd most popular porn category (after Teen) for straight men.
If you don’t care that gays aren’t attracted to trans people of the opposite sex, then why repeatedly mention bottom surgery? Why bring up trans men’s sexual preferences? (PIV sex doesn’t have tops or bottoms.) Those won’t matter to people who aren’t attracted to them in the first place and it’s creepy you’re obsessed with convincing lesbians and this gay man to have straight sex with someone trans. Why argue with gays their attraction to the same sex should be an attraction to gender identities? Why are you policing the sexuality of lesbians so they can’t reject people who aren’t lesbians who they aren’t attracted to from their spaces?
The act of a trans man attracted to men chasing after gay men, or a trans woman chasing after lesbians, is an endorsement of conversion therapy. Same with your constant urging for gay men and lesbians to consider straight sex with trans people they aren’t attracted to. Conversion therapy is anything designed to change a lesbian or gay man’s sexual orientation which you’re doing here.
How many more gay people need to tell you you’re wrong and hurting them before you listen?
Also there’s no reason to mix up homosexual and heterosexual for those who are trans. Gay men and homosexual trans women have their sexuality and biology in common. Lesbians and homosexual trans men have their sexuality and biology in common. Both groups share a history. Medical gatekeeping blocked heterosexual trans people from transition services for decades, and many heterosexual trans women refused any association with the gay community or homosexual trans women. Knowing how homosexual trans women face violence that heterosexual trans women don’t (and went through the AIDS crisis and gay marriage being illegal while heterosexual trans women had wives and kids) it’s honestly evil of you to erase the homosexuality of same-sex attracted trans women and men who have always been a part of the gay community.
Shame on you.
I. DONT. CARE. WHO. GAYS. AND. LESBIANS. HAVE. SEX. WITH.
A trans woman who has love for another woman is pretty gay. HER feelings are very gay.
I brought up bottom surgery and sexual preferences because 1.) they continuously are going on about how they have a penis so they are just looking to stick it in a lesbian to convert them and genitals are oh so important to everyone, so I was curious as to where they drew the line. What does it take for a trans woman to be a woman in their eyes? I was curious on their take of asexual lesbians that have no interest in having sex or genitals in general, about asexual trans lesbians who don’t want to have sex at all. 2.) I was saying that not all sex between a trans man and another man is PIV. There’s this fun old thing called a strap on. Not all trans men are going to be the ones being penetrated.
A trans woman/trans man can be attracted to whoever they want. It literally does not matter to me. If a trans woman is attracted to solely men and is heterosexual then good for her. If she is bi/pan? Awesome, welcome to the club! Lesbian? Hell yeah, other women are great!
Gatekeeping then from the community they belong in and from identifying with the sexuality that suits their gender is shitty. Sorry, it just is. Constantly feeling the need to remind trans people that “well yeah, you may identify as a woman but you have a penis so you aren’t REALLY a woman” is shitty and transphobic and you can take that shit outta here if you think that’s okay.
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Asexual lesbians have no interest in biological males. Their sexual preference to avoid physical intimacy doesn’t change their orientation to the same sex. You’ve contradicted yourself a lot. You care a lot who lesbians date and have sex with. Genitals are important to sex. Gay men don’t like vaginas and lesbians don’t like penises. People who like both are bisexual. Genital repulsion to the other sex is one of the main reasons gays are oppressed since they do not have procreative sex with the same genitals. Your thinking is no different than that of the average homophobe.
Lesbians are usually told if they use strap-ons then they can take a dick. But your argument is because gay men like dick then can take a strap-on? Sex toys aren’t equivalent to genitals. Why do you care so much that gays won’t fuck the opposite sex? Gay men don’t want to be pegged by a trans man. They aren’t attracted to the sex act but to the person. A trans man is not the same sex.
Heterosexual refers to trans women attracted to women. Feelings for the opposite sex are pretty straight. Lesbian refers to any natal female who likes other natal females, so wouldn’t ever refer to a trans woman. They don’t belong in communities for natal females attracted to the same sex. They aren’t either of those things. Lesbians aren’t doing anything to trans women. If a heterosexual trans woman hears “Lesbians like the female sex” as “You’re not really a woman” then that trans woman needs therapy. Lesbian feelings have nothing to do with any natal male. Lesbian feelings are about loving other females. No male has the right to make it about what they want.
You’re obsessed with who gay men and lesbians have sex with and that’s creepy and gross. Same sex attraction hurts nobody. Love does no harm to its neighbor. If you actually support trans women, then you wouldn’t portray them as incels and homophobes incapable of respecting a lesbian’s sexuality. I believe they’re better than that. Although heterosexuals haven’t been a part of the LGBT community for long, I believe trans women and men who like the opposite sex can respect the same sex attraction of gays and lesbians. You don’t need to sexually harass gays and lesbians to consider asexual relationships, sex toys, or surgeries so they can be with the wrong sex. Gay men and lesbians deserve their sexuality respected as much as the gender identity of a trans person. You’re in the wrong here.
Past I didn’t talk about people having sex until other people started talking about people having sex.
A lesbian can use a strap on too if she wants?? My point was that sex between a trans male and cis male isn’t innately PIV sex. That’s literally my entire point on that.
MY OTHER POINT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU’RE SAYING WHICH IS THAT GENITALS DONT MATTER, THE SEX ACT DOESNT MATTER ITS THE PERSON AND IF THE PERSON IS SOMEONE WHO IDENTIFIES AS A WOMAN AND LIKES OTHER WOMEN SOLELY THAT SHE IS A LESBIAN.
My entire argument has NOTHING to do with cis lesbians. I don’t care if they want to date, have sex with, or whatever with trans lesbians. They don’t have to if they don’t want to. No one is forcing them to. They can just not if they don’t want to and you want to know how many fucks I’ll give - 0. Zero fucks. Because it’s not about whether they date or fuck trans women. It really isn’t. I don’t care what a lesbian chooses to do with her body, it’s not my damn business.
My point is that a trans woman who is solely attracted to women is a lesbian. THAT DOESNT MEAN YOU HAVE TO DATE OR HAVE SEX WITH HER. She can only control herself and pursue relationships the way she chooses - some will do it shittily and some won’t because they’re people and not everyone is a good person no matter what their gender and/or sexuality is.
A woman who likes other women hearing “oh yeah I acknowledge you as another women...except when I don’t” is shitty. Either she is a woman and you treat her as such or you don’t and you’re a transphobe. There is no in between. However, just like every woman in the planet, you aren’t forced to be with her just because she is a woman.
My argument is literally “don’t be a transphobe and call trans women men and treat them as men. That’s shitty and transphobic.” There we go. There is my argument.
Lesbians can do what they want with their own bodies. I am not telling them they have to have any kind of physical or romantic relationship with a trans lesbian. I’m just saying that a trans woman’s right to be a woman isn’t decided by them, she doesn’t stop being a woman when it’s inconvenient to them. And if a trans woman does try to push herself on them after they say no THAT MAKES THEM A SHITTY INDIVIDUAL, it doesn’t make trans lesbians shitty as a whole.