(Our friendship) is real. It is real. We take the mick out of each other. And we have a shared sense of humour and similar tastes. It’s genuinely exciting when we see each other. I wouldn’t say he took me under his wing, but he made me feel like I was on an even playing field with him. And treated me like a colleague, and didn’t school me or lecture me. He was very gracious, and we had a lot of fun together. And continue to have a lot of fun together.









