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Underrated Forests of Arda Poll!
The results of the Middle Earth Forest Poll are in and, perhaps unsurprisingly, Lórien won with nearly 40% of the votes.
I know that all my fellow hardcore forest stans found this as disappointing as I did, so here's a round 2!
pick your favourite forest
Beleriand
Forest of Buckland
Brethil
Nan Elmoth
Ithilien
Doriath
Forest of Lindon
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was real busy this week so no time to draw, but i had some little chibi heads lying around that i didnt have a real use for so i wanted to try my hand at some character relationship charts 😌 i used to really love reading them when they would be compiled for old jrpg or visual novel games i was into, so i thought it'd be fun to explore some finwean dynamics i personally tend to lean on in my fics n comic wooo
The Funeral of Aragorn, King of the Reunited Kingdom.
How to frustrate an elf.
Tell them you don’t believe the Valar exists.
That you doubt they are actually immortal, reasoning that just because you haven’t died not mean you are immortal.
Morgoth? Never heard of him.
Rules on how to make an elf scream! 😂
“Especially that one” points to Elronds dad.
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Incomplete list of great things the PJ LOTR films added that weren’t in the books
OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD– feel free to add on!
“I made a promise Mr Frodo— a promise! Don’t you leave him Samwise Gamgee. And I don’t mean to. I don’t mean to.”
In general all the scenes where there’s no words/dialogue, and the music and visuals and actor’s performances are allowed to carry the story instead….something that’s impossible to do in a book. The standout moment for me is the moment after the ring is destroyed, Bard-Dur collapses, and it’s portrayed as.relief beyond words.
THE SOUNDTRACK IN GENERAL
The scene in mount doom that’s like “don’t you let go. Don’t let go.”
The hobbits returning home to find everything the same, and being heartbroken because they’ve changed so much.. I’m not saying it’s better than the book’s plotline where they returned home to find the Scouring of the Shire™, but it’s impactful in a completely different way
The scene where Eowyn hears Theoden’s last words, instead of Merry hearing them like he did in the books. Again, not necessarily “better,” but impactful in a different way
“my brother, my captain….. my king.”
Flm!Boromir in general. He’s a drastically different character than he was in the books, and YMMV on which version you like better, but I’m so glad film!Boromir is here
“No parent should have to bury their child.”
Arwen’s expanded role in general, and the way they we actually got to see her make her choice to stay in Middle Earth
That subplot in the Two Towers where Aragorn tames a wild unruly horse, basically becoming the protagonist of a Horse Girl Movie
THE PACING!!!!!!!!!!!!
The way they moved around a lot of the dialogue to places that made it hit differently. .Like in the books Gandalf says the line “many that live deserve death– and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them?” when he’s still in the Shire with Frodo. But in the films, he says it in Moria instead, in his last conversation with Frodo before his own death.
cracks knuckles
My time has come.
Legolas’ miniature character arc of growing to understand death. Gandalf dies? Just pure shock. He looks like he got punched. Boromir dies? He’s just so. Sad and confused. Like a little kid who doesn’t know what dying is but he knows it’s bad. They think the Hobbits are dead? Legolas bows his head and murmurs a farewell in Elvish, but he still doesn’t seem to comprehend. He thinks Aragorn is dead? He practically shuts down because now he gets it. Battle of the Black Gate, when it looks like Aragorn is about to die? That is the only moment besides Moria when we see Legolas is genuinely afraid.
“Never thought I’d die fighting side by side with an Elf.” “What about side by side with a friend?” “…Aye. I could do that.”
Éomer finding Éowyn after the battle instead of in the middle of it and letting out that gut-wrenching scream.
“They have a Cave-Troll.”
Basically the entire fight sequence in Balin’s tomb, which was much shorter in the book.
That EPIC charge down the mountain at Helm’s Deep. Looks like a freaking Renaissance painting.
Boromir training the Hobbits to fight. It’s just so pure and wholesome.
Actually that whole scene because it’s the one moment—before the crebain show up—that we get to see the Fellowship just being friends without some immediate crisis.
Sam getting to say a proper goodbye to Bill the Pony because I have FEELINGS about that pony, okay?!
Arwen and Aragorn having an essentially telepathic connection. Idk if it’s better than the books, but honestly it’s a good way to expand her character without changing it completely—which is what they were gonna do originally by having her show up at Helm’s Deep to fight.
The Elves showing up at Helm’s Deep. I don’t like that literally none of them survived, but that moment when Haldir said they came to honor the old allegiance of Men and Elves? That is some Good Content.
Also, for your consideration:
I have heard it said, and totally believe, that the difference between the endings of the book and the movies, when the hobbits came home, is the difference between how a British author who fought in WW I and survived WW II and a scriptwriter/director who grew up in the Vietnam War era, perceive war and it’s aftermath.
Lowkey obsessed with the naming tradition of the line of Elwe/Thingol.
It just fascinates me how Thingol did not create the “El-” prefix naming tradition despite being the origin of it. Luthien’s given name bears no resemblance to either of her parents’ and neither does the name of her son, Dior. Yet Dior named himself Eluchil and took up the lordship of Doriath (something Luthien impliedly rejected when she and Beren chose to make their home elsewhere) and called his children Elured, Elurin, Elwing, and in their refugee’s home, cut off from her family and her heritage, Elwing named her own sons Elrond and Elros.
And then, that thousands of years later, as lord of his own realm, in the safety of Rivendell, lifetimes since he last saw either of his parents or lived among the Doriathrim, Elrond names his sons Elrohir and Elladan.
It feels especially important as a claim on Iathrim heritage considering Doriath’s destruction. It was in the wake of the ruinous war with Nogrod, when Dior stepped in to try to rebuild, that he chose to name his children after a grandfather he never met, the legendary Elu Thingol, once called Elwe. It’s after the total obliteration of Doriath as a kingdom at the hands of fellow Elves that Elwing claims this tradition in naming her own children. And for Elrond, who never saw Doriath, who was deprived of the chance to know his mother or be raised among the Iathrim in Sirion (or the Gondolindrim, but that’s another issue), when he names his firstborn children, he reaches for that heritage in Doriath, that connection and in doing so declares himself of the line of Thingol and of Elwing, and his children also. He marks them as the next generation of this bloodline, he recollects the life and death of Doriath and its people, keeping alive that memory, faint as it might be.
The elves of middle earth having the same “call your dad when you don’t know how to fix a problem” instinct but because they live forever it’s like
Some elf starts experiencing the elven equivalent of car trouble (idk, horse won’t go?) and calls his dad, and then his dad can’t figure it out so he calls HIS dad and so on and so forth until you’ve got this guys entire lineage all huddled together in elven cargo shorts trying to solve a dented horseshoe
Pop Quiz! Which of these words or phrases is NOT used in the book version of LotR??
“Boner”
“Swag”
“Mood”
“Express train”
All of these are used in LotR
None of these are used in LotR
The two most captivate me stories in Tolkien's lore : one described in "Arabeth", the other in "Lay of Leithian". At first it was hard for me to accept and forgive Beren and Luthien, looking at them through the story of Aengnor and Andret, too many "why?"… But these two stories cannot be considered separately. Leithian is the most pivotal one for the Professor, Atrabeth is one of his most recent texts, so I'd like to know what this will develop into…
2) - Luthien and Beren, "the first encounter"
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What’s your favorite underrated Lord of the Rings friendship? Right now mine is Arwen and Frodo. They have no scene in the movies and only one scene in the book but fortunately that scene’s a banger, especially when you read what Tolkien said about it in Letter 246 (the part involving Arwen starts in the last paragraph of page 3).
Arwen in her grief for her father is the first one to notice the signs of Frodo’s lingering trauma, and she knows it’s only a little while before he goes home and then Elsewhere while she stays in Gondor, but she determines to do her best to help this little fellow mortal and fellow mourner. She gives him a jewel (classic Arwen) that she hopes will remind Frodo of her and Aragorn and comfort him “when the memory of the fear and darkness troubles you.” When. Aragorn has been well-meaningly trying to talk around it, but Arwen is the first to acknowledge that the memory will keep troubling Frodo; she knows, as a fellow sufferer, and by not euphemizing she connects with him.
And then:
“A gift I will give you. For I am the daughter of Elrond. I shall not go with him now when he departs to the Havens; for mine is the choice of Lúthien, and as she so have I chosen, both the sweet and the bitter. But in my stead you shall go, Ring-bearer, when the time comes, and if you then desire it. If your hurts grieve you still and the memory of your burden is heavy, then you may pass into the West, until all your wounds and weariness are healed.”
This wasn’t a spur-of-the-moment gift. In letter 246 Tolkien says she consulted with Gandalf and Elrond, because a place in Valinor isn’t something you can just decide to give. She had to have thought deeply about it, and realized that though her and Frodo’s sufferings were parallel they were also complementary, and that what she’d given up, Frodo could have for his healing.
Arwen’s barely in the book, yet I’ve fallen in love with the little Tolkien shows of her. The way she deals with her own grief is by helping out fellow grievers, and I feel so sad for her and admire her so much.
So I've started to form a headcanon that Varda is, apart from Melkor, the darkest among the Valar. And some of it has to do with Melkor's past infatuation with her.
So we know that Melkor was (at least from his perspective) in love with Varda. Part of it was probably that she was pretty, but, like, all of the Valar were pretty. Or at least, all of them had the potential to be so. So most of his infatuation with her would have to do with who she was. Which in turn led me to think that she was more similar to him than many of the other Valar, in that she was just as full of change, and rage, and drama. Like. She had the same sort of 'larger-than-life' presence in Arda which none of the other Valar (not even Ulmo) really ever had.
Varda is the Valie of Light, and of the stars. And her power, like many, is twofold. Her light, while nurturing, can also hurt and destroy. Her stars, while being pretty lights as seen from Arda, are in a way just raging things burning themselves out over time. It's beautiful, and yet it's dark.
So the rest of the Valar are slightly afraid of her. She is quicker to anger than the rest of them, and holds more closely than any others to her grudges (I mean. The point of the Valacirca constellation is to be a death threat to her ex. Kind of. Need I say anything else?). Varda is always at this point where she's about to burst into a combusting star and burn herself out. The stars which she puts up there are parts of the same restlessness, which is more bearable to her if she puts it outside of herself.
No one wants to get on Varda's bad side. And in some ways it's good that she is with Manwe, because he is softer than her, and more stable, despite his aspect being wind and air. I mean, if both Varda and Melkor had turned evil, I doubt the world would have lasted for more than a week.
hot take:
Gloin is the sexiest dwarf by dwarf standards.
Kili is the sexiest dwarf by elf standards.
Thorin is the sexiest dwarf by human standards
& Bombur is the sexiest dwarf by hobbit standards
#ITS TRUE AND YOU SHOULD SAY IT #(ALSO THORIN AND KILI BEING ‘UGLY’ BY DWARF STANDARDS IS AMUSING CONTENT)
further take: Kili is straight-up ugly by dwarf standards. Thorin is like, the dwarf equivalent of Benedict Cumberbatch. Some dwarves think he’s an absolutely dreamboat, others think he is super weird looking, there’s very little middle ground.
omg now i’m like. what does this make frodo by hobbit standards
by hobbit standards, I’m afraid Frodo is probably. not conventionally attractive at all.
Frodo is the sexiest hobbit by elf standards
@femmefaramir this is some fucking galaxy brain level tags and im crying out of sheer horror
Every day, against my will, the LOTR fandom makes posts.
sam is probably the most attractive by hobbit standards, baffling why he thinks rosie won’t give him the time of day, in his mayor of hobbiton days he’s basically the pedro pascal of hobbit daddies
Bilbo the sexiest hobbit to dwarf standards?
something about binding yourself so tightly to the land that you can feel its pain and it speaks to you and it’s suffering from a slow poison that reminds you of what killed the people you loved and so many of your people died that most of the ones now living don’t know and can never understand and you don’t want them to understand and it hurts every time that you look south and you can’t help but remember
idk incoherent thoughts on thranduil okay
Something I just want to bring up.
I’m watching The Hobbit: Battle of the Five Armies and when he’s saying goodbye to the dwarves, he says, “Don’t bother knocking.”
And I know that’s meant to be: “You’re welcome to just walk in and take a seat and hang out.”
But really, when we watch their introductions, they all ring the doorbell to show they’re at the door. Except. EXCEPT Thorin. He specifically knocks. He’s the only dwarf who does.
So in this essay, I will say:
Bilbo wants to keep in contact with the dwarves, but. He knows if he hears a knock at the door, he will assume it’s Thorin every time.
But when he’s older, he’s bitter when Gandalf knocks at the door. Most likely from forgetfulness and the Ring, but a piece of him remembers the feeling of why he doesn’t like knocking.
What say you?
This is no mere ranger. He is Aragorn, son of Arathorn. You owe him your allegiance.
ARAGORN and LEGOLAS The Lord of the Rings trilogy | Director: Peter Jackson
