One of the bigger parts of this idea I'm not sure about is who exactly is still alive 1500 years later
like Uzi, N, and V of course, and J is also a disassembly drone so her too. Nori also has the solver, so would make sense for her to still be around if the disassembly drones are
but then there's Khan, Lizzy, and Thad
so far, I think there's two ways to go about it:
option 1, being normal worker drones, they all grow old and eventually pass on, and the immortals just have to live with that
option 2, Uzi puts them through a similar procedure to what CYN did with the alphabet trio, but with less trauma and mutations. Basically, she infects them with the less version of solver that the disassembly drones were given, but doesn't give them the new limbs (unless they ask for a tail or something)
option 2B, Uzi adds them to the solver hivemind after they die and can make holograms of them to chat now and then. They are still themselves, they just don't have bodies and their minds live in the solver cloud thing (this option leaves room for Doll to come back, since she got slurped by the solver and all)
on one hand, the first option gives some gravity/consequences to them living this long. They still have each other, but inevitably they have to watch loved ones leave them, and they have to just sorta move on after
but on the other hand, this is already a crack idea, so might as well have those guys still around. Happy ending, everyone lives forever.
It could also be a situation where, the drone has to die first and come back as a zombie drone before the solver can be added to them. Meaning only some drones can be made immortal, and that it's really up to chance whether their software decides to spontaneously revive them (which would also fix the logistical problem of them making all their descendants and loved ones immortal, because if no one ever dies but are still having kids eventually you're gonna run out of room)
I lean slightly towards the first option because, as I said, consequences of immortality
but also I think 1500+ year old Thad and Lizzy would be really funny
longevity without living forever could definitely work
it's also how I assume it would work with the disassembly drones, and Uzi if she ever found someone to take over as host/decided to take the solver to the grave with her
so it mostly comes down to, do we want them alive still at this 1500-years-post-canon point?
They could also potentially just go into hibernation for a while too if they need to.
The Trio says, and to slightly edit a quote from President Hathaway, "Time to head for the bunker boys. Lets check up on the situation in 500 years." and they come back to a fucking holy war in their name or something.
Feel like going lights-out for a couple of decades to a century or two would probably spice things up a bit.
People really don't know what they got with this episode I feel.
Just from a purely stylistic point of view -- the pool of 2010s energy this series draws from never ever ever crystallized in such a cohesive way and it might never again. Just Tessyn took a year to model and months and months to animate & VA, and it's all done with such sincere swagger. If you grew up before 2016 you SAW the pieces of this stuff pop up all over, individual writers, animators, musicians, voice actors with their separate projects that never coalesced but suggested that something like this could happen, and it did, with more competency and passion than we'd ever imagined a story of this type could get back then.
We'll have forever to vulture over the specifics of where arcs go and don't but it's worth it to take a moment, think, and realize that this stuff was monumentally ambitious and pulled off what it set out to magnificently (namely the protag trio) while balancing discordant tonal extremes.
Earlier episodes weren't as good as these things but by 7 and 8 you can see and appreciate the way the tone flows from end to end of the emotional spectrum, scene to scene of the episode, in such a way that it looks effortless, all the while keeping a solid thematic throughline. And criticize as we may the excesses of subtlety, if you sit down and consider the pacing constraints it'll click that the show's handle on the flow of information can be exceptional.
This is stuff you'll never see again in your lives. It's a type of creative energy that doesn't exist anymore put in service of an extraordinarily competent production that never loses its sincerity. Think what you may of the writing, you should appreciate this, because this is the kind of earnest creative project the world needs so badly.
I adore this show to my core and it'll stay in my heart of hearts as one of my favorite pieces of fiction ever made. There's few things out there more laser-aimed to my tastes -- media hardly ever makes me feel any emotions but somehow MD got me consistently giddy & sad & horrified the whole way through.
This show found me at an utter nadir. I was feeling like shit, facing a shit job, creatively dead, lonely and regressing into all those personal failings that surface when things don't go right. I only decided to hatewatch it at around the time ep2 dropped with some friends because I needed something to be angry at, and found myself with butterflies in my stomach as ep2 came to a close.
The stylistic flairs of this show speak to me in a way that I haven't been spoken to for a decade. Writing cringe and all, unapologetic anime-isms, the delightfully realized body horror. Even back then, as soon as EP3 dropped, I felt like I had a pulse on this show, where it was going, what it wanted to do -- even when it makes mistakes, even when I dislike decisions, I feel like I get it, I see the vision, and I love it even more for it where things like these would have killed my joy dead back when.
And the writing community -- I never ever in my life expected to meet so many incredibly inspired, dedicated folks out here, not a week goes that I give your fics a read and come out angry-laughing at how fucking good this stuff is. As a lifelong pessimist and infamously dour shitheel when it comes to writing this stuff is invaluable to me.
It's been more than two years since then, and I sincerely believe this has been the greatest years of my life. I am renewed and happy with my creative endeavors. The theories, the projects, the writing talks, the stupid crack shit, it's made my recent life worth living when things were shite and made it shine much more when things got better, got so much dark stuff out of my skull and made it art that I can look back and love, smile when time passes and it doesn't tarnish in that hurtful way one's works do when it gets late at night and the same ol', same ol' creative dread creeps into your head.
This all amounts to a fairly unnoteworthy fandom appreciation letter -- I know it does. Maybe because it's my first and I've never cared to watch things as they air, maybe I just don't have the words in me to put what's in my heart out there into the screen.
I suppose "I love you all" is the most sincere way to say it. I genuinely do. Thank you for the art, the heart-wrenching fanfic, the discussions, the beautiful cringy art, the joy of my life since all the way back in '22. Thanks to all my friends I made here. Thanks to the insanely awesome Glitch team for delivering pure stylistic kino unmatched in history. Thanks to Liam Vickers for sticking with his insane fucking isms since circa 2010 until he saw it through.
I'll hold all this and more in my cruddy little heart where it hardly fits for all my life. I've got plenty more fanfic in me to write and read and I'm giddy to see it all through.
Thank you for reading this, no matter what you thought of that ending or how your opinion of the show's evolved. No matter the brisk turns life takes, there's nothing in the world that means more to me than that people are willing to read what I write.
ok now I'm curious, gonna keep an eye on this because I really do hope to see this.
A guy I know mentioned that there's a fic out there with the same sort of premise as the art but it's on wattpad and mid so whatever you make will probably be better by dint of not being from wattpad.
Ok, another idea I'm adding to my pile that may or may not one day see the light of day
roughly 2 decades post canon events, give or take
solver's defeated, the drones are living in peace, new generation is here that's never been threatened by murder drones
a group of ~12-13 year olds go outside to look for sky demons, and they run into N.
Now, this next part is important. The kids have heard the adults name-drop murder drones and sky demons. Overheard comments about how X's grandparents or uncle/aunt got eaten by them. But they've never seen a picture of one (some can probably already see where this is going).
See, for plot reasons because of how graphic and disturbing the subject matter is, the younger drones don't learn the full history of the murder drones and absolute solver till around high school age.
So they run into N and tell him they're on a sky demon hunt. Sure their description of one sounds a lot like N, but see, he's a "disassembly" drone not a "murder" drone. Totally different thing! No way Mr. N, Outpost 3's resident golden retriever, could ever be a murder drone, that's ridiculous!
What N is however is old (read: middle-aged). So the kids ask him if he got to see a murder drone when he was younger. Just so happens that N has seen a few sky demons before. In fact, he even knows of a worker drone that once managed to defeat one.
TLDR
N finds a gaggle of children outside one night, and tells them a mostly true ghost story about a certain purple eyed drone. As he tries to corral them back to the bunker.
>See, for plot reasons because of how graphic and disturbing the subject matter is, the younger drones don't learn the full history of the murder drones and absolute solver till around high school age.
Ok but now I’m kinda curious about how those classes go.
I’d imagine it probably differs between who’s the teacher.
I’d imagine N probably starts off a bit gentler about explaining the whole situation, while (if she’s alive here, and this was likely the first and only time she was allowed to teach this) V likely just rips the band-aid off right away and just puts on some live footage/picture from some poor SOB getting mulched by her, and then explains the context.
J would do a PowerPoint presentation that’s so damn boring that the class doesn’t even care about the whole “she participated in a genocide” thing and just want it to be over.
N explains like some trying to explain to a young child why the dog died while desperately trying not to make them cry
V just straight up says she's eaten people and goes from there
J's powerpoint would probably be the dullest thing to exist, but probably the most effective at getting the info across effectively without traumatizing the students. Like reading a textbook about the world wars.
Would probably start with a very academic explanation of zombie drones and lead into how the solver manifested from damaged AI and go from there.
Then you have the solver infected drones. As of episode 7, V, Nori, and Uzi are the only remaining drones to have first-hand experience growing the wings, extra limbs, et cetera (cept maybe eldritch J if she remembers any of that). And only Nor and Uz have used the solver's telekinesis.
V'd probably handle it about as well as she would the disassembly drone massacres
Uzi, based on her powerpoint from episode 1 and how she describes the solver in 2. I'd imagine she'd explain it a bit like J with a very clinical explanation of how it works, but mix in some more exciting footage and demonstrations (live demos if we assume she gets to keep the wings and solver powers after it's defeated, if she doesn't then probably recorded footage). Like when a science teacher is teaching the periodic table and lights different things on fire to show off the colored flames
Nori I'm not sure about. We did see a little of how so explained the core collapse to N so perhaps something similar to that. Though I'd imagine after years of dealing with the solver she might not want to have to explain it whenever a new batch of students comes of age
"Alright you brats, you've already been told all those vague stories about the 'sky demons' and how the humans caused the core collapse. Well, here's the full story. Firstly, the 'sky demons'.
Yeah that was us."
*click*
a picture of V eating a still-screaming Worker is now displayed on the projector
"Fun fact; pillbabies are crunchy! Anyways, here's why all that happened."
Ok, another idea I'm adding to my pile that may or may not one day see the light of day
roughly 2 decades post canon events, give or take
solver's defeated, the drones are living in peace, new generation is here that's never been threatened by murder drones
a group of ~12-13 year olds go outside to look for sky demons, and they run into N.
Now, this next part is important. The kids have heard the adults name-drop murder drones and sky demons. Overheard comments about how X's grandparents or uncle/aunt got eaten by them. But they've never seen a picture of one (some can probably already see where this is going).
See, for plot reasons because of how graphic and disturbing the subject matter is, the younger drones don't learn the full history of the murder drones and absolute solver till around high school age.
So they run into N and tell him they're on a sky demon hunt. Sure their description of one sounds a lot like N, but see, he's a "disassembly" drone not a "murder" drone. Totally different thing! No way Mr. N, Outpost 3's resident golden retriever, could ever be a murder drone, that's ridiculous!
What N is however is old (read: middle-aged). So the kids ask him if he got to see a murder drone when he was younger. Just so happens that N has seen a few sky demons before. In fact, he even knows of a worker drone that once managed to defeat one.
TLDR
N finds a gaggle of children outside one night, and tells them a mostly true ghost story about a certain purple eyed drone. As he tries to corral them back to the bunker.
>See, for plot reasons because of how graphic and disturbing the subject matter is, the younger drones don't learn the full history of the murder drones and absolute solver till around high school age.
Ok but now I’m kinda curious about how those classes go.
I’d imagine it probably differs between who’s the teacher.
I’d imagine N probably starts off a bit gentler about explaining the whole situation, while (if she’s alive here, and this was likely the first and only time she was allowed to teach this) V likely just rips the band-aid off right away and just puts on some live footage/picture from some poor SOB getting mulched by her, and then explains the context.
J would do a PowerPoint presentation that’s so damn boring that the class doesn’t even care about the whole “she participated in a genocide” thing and just want it to be over.
Tessa's Patch May Imply Her War on Humanity Isn't Over.
The Ep6 star chart shows at least 6 worlds including Earth and C9, but Tessa's (CYN's) patch has 6 stars and 1 large blue sphere with all but a single star crossed out. A total of 7 symbols.
If Earth is being counted twice on Tessa's patch as both the blue sphere and a star, it implies humanity is already extinct. Copper 9 being the final white star.
If Earth is not being counted twice, it means that either humanity colonized another exoplanet in the aftermath of the C9 core collapse that was subsequently overrun by A.S forces, or that Copper 9 is already counted as an X'd out planet due to the first core collapse wiping out all human life.
The latter idea means that there may be one final human exoplanet still fighting.
I'm personally leaning towards this being the case, because if humanity was already wiped out completely and Copper 9 was the final world yet to be completely consumed, what's the threat?
Who cares if a few thousand surviving drones hiding in the ruins of a broken world know about the existence of a cure? CYN's already won. Eating C9 is a victory lap. It's not like that cure makes them invulnerable to death by Disassembly Drone.
If CYN hasn't already won, if her long war on humanity still rages elsewhere amongst the stars, then her actions make far more sense.
She may be surprisingly desperate to consume what little still exists on C9 in the way of biomatter and drones to fuel her war against the remnants of humanity, and prevent the knowledge of a cure contained within Cabin Fever Labs from making it off word. A couple thousand Nori and Yevas aren't a big deal. Millions of them would be.
Murder Drones are strong, but they're not invincible. In the face of well-prepared, entrenched, and desperate resistance blood and oil would flow in equal rivers.
That's just to take one human world, and UZI reminded us in Ep2 that new matter can't be pulled from thin air.
Been seeing some discussion on another website (not going to outright say which one, if you want to know, ask), that the Solver might be kinda desperate right now.
Sure things for it seem like they're going mostly according to plan, but as we can tell, the thing makes heavy usage of smoke and mirror deception to fuck with people.
It might be losing, and we wouldn't know because C-9 doesn't have any contact with the wider galaxy at large.
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