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Had dollies gathering with my best friend @athenaroseannatse. She brought her Dragon, Lizzy, Sherlock and Aurelien to meet my Musi, Roderich and Artemis lol.
Tiring transaction.
I am super pissed about my first problem transaction on DOA. I sent my last message to her 9 May 2016 and I have never received her message ever since. And today I logged into my Paypal account and she requested a refund on the doll on 14 May 2016. She wrote: “
“Since the post office has refused the insurance claim due to damaged and insufficient packaging as shown in photos, it falls upon you to make amends for the damage your lack of proper packaging has caused. The current going rate for the damaged doll part as per Den of Angels forum is $150 + shipping. I request a refund of $175 to cover the replacement part.”
It has been super extremely stressful and tiring to deal with this transaction.
I had a transaction with Minerva on DOA. She contacted me and said she was interested in it. We agreed with the transaction after I double checked with her about Soom Chalco’s status which it was not a brand new doll.
After she received the doll, she sent me 2 photos of a broken part of the doll.
I was super shocked and asked her if she had contacted her local EMS delivery office immediately as the package was fully insured. Then she came back to me and said the post office refused the claim due to “insufficient” packaging. If the post office said they are not accepting the insurance claim but did they give she the form to fill in to request for a claim for an international package? And I am not sure if the Customs opened the package or not.
I have never seen a breakage like this before neither have I received any feedback about issues like this for all of the previous dolls that I have sold. Chalco and all the extra parts were wrapped with thick bubble sheets to make sure everything were secured in the box and ensured the doll was not moving in the box. Each leg was wrapped with bubble sheets individually, and tape was used to secure the 2 legs together in order to prevent the legs crushing with each other which could have resulted in damage of the resin surface. I also put extra bubble sheets at the bottom of the GEM official box. If the doll was not packed in a proper way, otherwise the ball-shaped ankle resin part and the foot should have been broken into pieces during transition. Or other easily exposed body parts such as the ball-shaped resin/ the fingers or other resin products included such as the mask should have received similar level of damage too if the box had indeed been careless treated during transition. So I asked her about whether she had more photos of the doll and the box before she had entirely unpacked the doll which could be shown to the post office for the refund.
She sent me photos of the exterior box (from Soom) with some crumpled box edges and an obvious hole which was absent before the doll was shipped.
I don’t think these photos were taken before she unpacked the doll.
She also sent me some pictures of the crumble edges of the GEM official box with the full set of Chalco inside.
She said the exterior box was damaged but she still signed the package and now come back to me and tell me the exterior box is damaged.
Also, she said the GEM official box was damaged which I could only see from the photos that the edges were slightly crumbled. (Seriously, I have never heard this kind of crumbled edges is also considered as a damage.)
My friends and I have talked about a lot of people usually concern about the fingers or the additional parts of Soom dolls might be broken in transit. But based on Minerva’s reply, only the hook attachment part inside the foot was damaged. She said the exterior box was damaged but she still signed the package and now she comes back to me and claimed that the doll has not been packed properly.
I am very very upset about Chalco’s damage and I was the one who was asking for more photos to see if the photos might help Minerva to claim the insurance from the post office. But after I’ve asked different photos from Minerva, she only came back to me with this message:
I am very frustrated about what she said about the doll was not packaged in a proper way. The photos she sent me with the remaining parts of Chalco were still wrapped in very thick bubble sheet. My BJD friends and I have been using this method to ship dolls for many years and I have never seen and received feedbacks of any similar damage like this. And Minerva kept saying those crumpled edges of the paper box was a “damage”.
I sent the photos of the broken part to my friends to ask what are the possibilities to have a non-exposed resin part of the doll to be broken like this. Some of my friends (who are
Soom
owners) and I discussed my doubt with them about why and how the resin part that linked with the foot could have broken. They mentioned a lot of different reasons about the breakage such as:
The doll has been dropped or shook during transition. But it doesn’t seem like a reasonable explanation for this damage because the broken part is quite smooth, otherwise the ball-shaped ankle resin part and the foot should have been broken into pieces if it was dropped. Other easily exposed body parts such as the ball-shaped resin/ the fingers or other resin products included such as the mask should have received similar level of damage too if the box had indeed been careless treated during transition instead of the broken non-exposed resin part from the picture, which was the hook of the foot.
The foot was bent. My friend explained with photos of her own Soom doll via stretching the elastic string and moving the ball-shaped ankle resin part. From the photos, it seems really hard to bend the resin part where the hook attaches to the foot without taking the foot out and simply by bending the foot to make it break.
A very sharp thing has cut the attachment part. But there was no any sharp thing included in the package, and there is no evidence that it has received a cut which had gone through both the exterior Soom box, official the Gem box and bubble sheets in order to damage the doll.
My friends and I have talked about a lot of people usually concern about the fingers or the additional parts of Soom dolls might be broken in transit. But based on Minerva’s reply, only the hook attachment part inside the foot was damaged.
Her messages sound like she is accusing me to be the cause of the damage that was found on the doll after she has received it, and she seems to try to talk me into refunding her for this. But since I have not done anything that could have caused this damage nor have caused it indirectly, thus I don’t think I am responsible for the refund.
Also I want to tell everyone be more careful to have a transaction with her because of her attitude in her replies and made me terribly uncomfortable the whole time. Her latest message makes me really concern that she’s trying to ask me for a refund for something that I have not done. The above photo is a screencap of her message and apart from the accusation, her attitude makes me feel like I am belittled and also not being trusted like I am a liar.
I searched her name online to see if she had some problem transactions with other bjd owners. And I found some posts about her attitude on BJD confessions: http://truebjdconfessions.tumblr.com/tagged/Minerva
Thank you so much for spending time on reading this.
So here is my poor friend @feeeeebe whom I’ve known for at least 7 years in person. She’s one of the most honest and trustworthy people that I know. I can put my life in her hand and that’s how much I believe her. That’s why I don’t believe she would mail a broken doll to someone else for money because she will never take advantage from others like this.
I CANNOT accept how Minerva on DOA has accused my friend for something that she hasn’t done at all and the reason behind this accuse is also irrational. Since I don’t know much about this DOA member, so if you or someone you know have been through similar things when you came across this DOA member, please contact my friend and give her some possible info on how she can deal with this. Since practically DOA moderator can’t really do anything for her, so I’m seeking help here.
Apart from the suspicious breakage, I CAN’T accept Minerva’s attitude at all. She’s been treating my friend like my friend is an idiot. If she has spoken to my friend politely, I’m sure my friend would have tried her best to solve this peacefully. But after this attitude and the all of a sudden claim on Paypal, I can’t think of anything to help my friend to get through this.
This Minerva chick seems a lot like another person I knew on DoA who threw a fit about her Angel Street doll being damaged to Mint on Card. They eventually blocked her because it was slight bubbles and knicks. I bought the doll from her because I felt sorry for it, and it had no such damage.
The break on that doll up there is TOO clean. I’ve broken parts and received broken parts that weren’t as clean as that. It looks like maybe they stored it in heat then cold, and pulled on the foot until it broke. Or there could have been a tiny crack in it which only fractured when pulled on too tightly.
Either way, I agree that if she signed for it, she accepted it as damaged.
I am sorry to hear that….I am sure you treat the doll very well, you still have the doll?
Yep, I agree the breakage is a way too clean, that was also one of the reasons that made me send the photos to my friends to discuss my doubt. Just a pure guess…If the broken part was made because of those reasons, then there must be someone opened the boxes to pull the doll…? Then it must be made in great strength to pull it until it broke…..
So a bit of updates here: Received a message from Minerva on Paypal but not on DOA:
From Buyer – (hiding her name) 17/05/2016 22:07 GMT+08:00 Your DoA feedback indicates that you had sold one (1) doll. This does not make you an expert at packaging for international shipment, as your packaging demonstrates. I would guess that either the box was dropped in shipment or that the doll was strung too tightly in the first place (i.e. the reason Soom ships their dolls with hands, feet, and head unstrung: to prevent breakage of this nature). Those are the only things which would cause the ankle hook to sheer off in this manner. Either way, I have already provided the costs to replace the damaged parts. It would be unlikely to get a proper resin match for an older doll such as this if ordering from Soom, so it’s going to have to be secondhand and preferably from the same doll edition. The insurance will not cover this.
Followings are my response just sent, I spent a whole night for typing this and I really need some sleep since I need to work few hours later. I am more active in other BJD communities than on DOA because I have lots of friends in those communities already. I don’t even know what to response to the sold doll…. I had some sold dolls on other communities - but I really seldom sell my BJDs because I have to make sure I like the doll so much before I get a new doll. I take so much time on making decisions on selling and buying a doll. However, I want to focus on some of my dolls now so I really need to find other BJD owners who like them more to take care of them. So the followings are my response on Paypal:
From Seller – (hiding my own name too) 18/05/2016 04:51 GMT+08:00 Hello Minerva, Thank you that you reviewed my feedbacks on DOA, not lots of feedbacks but they are all positive. I know you are active on DOA way longer than me but I am sure you know there are more than 1 BJD forum in the world (not even need to mention Facebook groups and Flickr groups, there are tons in FB and Flickr), I have plenty of transactions in other BJD communities, online platform and offline transactions too, especially in Asian countries. If you are only counting sold doll on DOA, indeed I have only 1 sold doll on DOA feedback thread. But if you are counting all transactions that I had on other forums and transactions, I guess I have more than 50 transactions with zero negative feedbacks received (each transaction can contain more than 1 items) that are related to BJD stuffs and more than 10 dolls (not including those transactions on DOA). I have to admit that I seldom sold my dolls because I really love them. And I am not making any profit by selling them. Just because I just hope to find other owners who like them more if I am selling them since I want to focus on some of my dolls now. Just a sharing, I would not say I own BJDs for long time compared to you at least for 10 years – I really hope my BJDs stay with me forever and I am still keeping my first doll for years. My 1st doll was owned by different owners and she was not kept in a good condition before she arrived to my place but now she is in perfect condition (The doll company was closed – I could not even get any replacement or anything). I know you are not happy about the broken, I am very sad too. No one wants any part of the doll is broken. However, I have no any clue why you keep saying that I am trying to amend something, I am just saying the truth what happened with this package. I did not even say a word about my view until you started saying I was trying to amend in the message on DOA. I only asked you if you had contacted the local post office already and if you could show more photos to me and the post office. Your 1st paragraph in your latest message showing you are an expert on mailing dolls and yes - you have been member on DOA earlier than me (I was too young to afford to get a BJD at that time), then I guess you kind of know on the following few important things in shipping perspective that many BJD owners know if they have some sold dolls transactions. The following few points were also pointed out by the staffs in the conversations when I was asking them about this issue in the Post office on Monday: 1) If you think the package was not “appropriate” when you receive it, you SHOULD NOT SIGN the package and REPORT IMMEDIATELY to the delivery staff about the issue. 2) Since you have your package fully insurance, the best way to protect your right as a buyer - you SHOULD CHECK and OPEN your package IN FRONT OF THE DELIVERY STAFF and report to he/she IMMEDIATELY if there is anything broken. 3) a- Assume you received your package at your place: If signed and opened the package already after the delivery staff left without telling him/her immediately there was any problem or issue about the package (that also means you have acknowledged the delivery staff the package was ok). So it probably will be a concern from the Post office staffs that you might have broken the doll no matter it was accidentally or in purpose after that. b- Assume you collected them in post office: Check the items in the post office to make sure the stuffs inside the package was correct and not broken during transit before moving it back home. Regarding to your assumption, no matter the damage was made by dropped or strung, they are all pure guess. Even I have a lot of pure guess too, but I am surprised that you said tight strung since it was mentioned by some other BJD owners on the public posts. Let me have this paragraph about the assumptions, in your assumption of the tight strung might have caused the hook was broken, I would like to point out the ball shaped part of the ankle does not it have any trace of damage and it looks super good in condition. In fact, I didn’t restring the doll at all and I am pretty sure it is not tight because Chalco (the doll) did not sit with the straight legs and feet (this is one of different ways to prove it is tight strung or not). But if you wanted to ship the doll unstrung, you could have requested to receive the doll unstrung from the beginning as you know super well about Soom how they pack the dolls. As I mentioned, those part with thinner resin parts would have been broken if the box was dropped. And there are a lot of BJD companies that sending the full doll without restrung unless they allowed you to specify to have the doll restrung for shipping. I really think I need to mention this point again – the other part of the doll, especially those with thin resin parts, fingers or the skull would also have been broken if I did not pack the doll nicely. And I am sure you know in your deep heart if you are a Soom owner for so long that those thin resin extra parts and fingers are always be a concern for the buyers that those parts might be easily broken even for those dolls that have been well-packed and sent from the official doll companies. But in this case, everything are arrived safely except that part. Thank you, Phoebe
So few days ago, I received a phone call from Paypal on 18 May that Minerva actually escalated it to a claim. Here is the details after my reponses from the above.
18/05/2016 06:15 GMT+08:00 - PayPal: Buyer escalated this dispute to a claim. 18/05/2016 06:15 GMT+08:00 - Buyer: Replacement of the broken doll parts will cost $150 + shipping (approximately $25). The requested refund will cover this.I can provide photos of all damage including damage to the packaging if necessary. Please let me know if any further information is needed. 18/05/2016 06:11 GMT+08:00 - Buyer: I hear from you a lot of reasons why I shouldn’t expect the doll I had purchased to arrive in the same condition in which it was purchased. That isn’t going to work though. I am not going to be out the money for replacement of the broken parts. If you aren’t going to offer a refund to make amends, Paypal can deal with this issue.I would be happy to provide to Paypal any photos or other details required to make a decision on this claim.
I really don’t know where she came the conclusion that I mentioned or imply anything about “the buyer should not expect the doll she had purchased to arrive in the same condition in which it was purchased.” I did not make any amends on the damage but I do really feel sorry about the breakage - I tried my best to wrap it nicely and also gave her additionals (wig and eyes) as a present - hope she could take care the doll nicely. I even went the post office to ask for details about the insurance before. After she escalated it to a claim on Paypal, now she is willing to provide every single details (including damages) to Paypal. However, she refused to do it when I asked her to have more photos and show them to the post office in the beggining. She kept saying the “inappropriate packaging” and I am really not convinced that she did went to the post office to file a claim. Followings are my reponses on today after she escalate the dispute to a claim.
I strongly disagree that I have ever made any amends for the damage because I did not do anything to cause the damage directly or indirectly. Now, I am wondering the reason why you keep saying “make amends” because you are just trying to push the “responsibilities” from nowhere to me to get the money in order to pay less for the doll. I am not sure if you really did ask local post office on the first day you were unboxing the doll. According to your words, you said you brought stuffs to the post office to discuss an insurance claim but they are refusing a claim due to the packaging being “insufficient” for an item this size. However, when I looked up to USPS website, it says the customer must go to a Post Office to report items that are damaged and should complete different forms and damage report of insured article and contents. For the priority mail international items, insured or ordinary parcels or registered mail items, foreign posts approximately 60 days to research and respond to the International Research Group. So I am really curious how come the local post office came to conclusion so quickly, even less than a day?
I received some PM from some of our DOA members and other BJD owners on tumblr, I am really appreciated everyone who actually read the posts and sent me messages for advice.
And today I saw there are some “hearts” from other DOA members in the posts of the problem transaction thread…..
Thanks everyone! I will try to keep everything updated.
Just an update here.
After so many days --- Paypal reviewed the issue and decided the buyer to mail the doll back to me. And she sent the doll out already (not the same tracking number).
Many days before the decision that made by Paypal, HK Post office contacted with US Post office on 24 May 2016 (HKT) to contact Minerva but HK Post office has been sending me emails and calling me since 24 May 2016 (HKT) that US Post office tried to contact her but failed. No one response to US Post office. (this really pissed me off)
Tiring transaction.
I am super pissed about my first problem transaction on DOA. I sent my last message to her 9 May 2016 and I have never received her message ever since. And today I logged into my Paypal account and she requested a refund on the doll on 14 May 2016. She wrote: “
“Since the post office has refused the insurance claim due to damaged and insufficient packaging as shown in photos, it falls upon you to make amends for the damage your lack of proper packaging has caused. The current going rate for the damaged doll part as per Den of Angels forum is $150 + shipping. I request a refund of $175 to cover the replacement part.”
It has been super extremely stressful and tiring to deal with this transaction.
I had a transaction with Minerva on DOA. She contacted me and said she was interested in it. We agreed with the transaction after I double checked with her about Soom Chalco’s status which it was not a brand new doll.
After she received the doll, she sent me 2 photos of a broken part of the doll.
I was super shocked and asked her if she had contacted her local EMS delivery office immediately as the package was fully insured. Then she came back to me and said the post office refused the claim due to “insufficient” packaging. If the post office said they are not accepting the insurance claim but did they give she the form to fill in to request for a claim for an international package? And I am not sure if the Customs opened the package or not.
I have never seen a breakage like this before neither have I received any feedback about issues like this for all of the previous dolls that I have sold. Chalco and all the extra parts were wrapped with thick bubble sheets to make sure everything were secured in the box and ensured the doll was not moving in the box. Each leg was wrapped with bubble sheets individually, and tape was used to secure the 2 legs together in order to prevent the legs crushing with each other which could have resulted in damage of the resin surface. I also put extra bubble sheets at the bottom of the GEM official box. If the doll was not packed in a proper way, otherwise the ball-shaped ankle resin part and the foot should have been broken into pieces during transition. Or other easily exposed body parts such as the ball-shaped resin/ the fingers or other resin products included such as the mask should have received similar level of damage too if the box had indeed been careless treated during transition. So I asked her about whether she had more photos of the doll and the box before she had entirely unpacked the doll which could be shown to the post office for the refund.
She sent me photos of the exterior box (from Soom) with some crumpled box edges and an obvious hole which was absent before the doll was shipped.
I don’t think these photos were taken before she unpacked the doll.
She also sent me some pictures of the crumble edges of the GEM official box with the full set of Chalco inside.
She said the exterior box was damaged but she still signed the package and now come back to me and tell me the exterior box is damaged.
Also, she said the GEM official box was damaged which I could only see from the photos that the edges were slightly crumbled. (Seriously, I have never heard this kind of crumbled edges is also considered as a damage.)
My friends and I have talked about a lot of people usually concern about the fingers or the additional parts of Soom dolls might be broken in transit. But based on Minerva’s reply, only the hook attachment part inside the foot was damaged. She said the exterior box was damaged but she still signed the package and now she comes back to me and claimed that the doll has not been packed properly.
I am very very upset about Chalco’s damage and I was the one who was asking for more photos to see if the photos might help Minerva to claim the insurance from the post office. But after I’ve asked different photos from Minerva, she only came back to me with this message:
I am very frustrated about what she said about the doll was not packaged in a proper way. The photos she sent me with the remaining parts of Chalco were still wrapped in very thick bubble sheet. My BJD friends and I have been using this method to ship dolls for many years and I have never seen and received feedbacks of any similar damage like this. And Minerva kept saying those crumpled edges of the paper box was a “damage”.
I sent the photos of the broken part to my friends to ask what are the possibilities to have a non-exposed resin part of the doll to be broken like this. Some of my friends (who are
Soom
owners) and I discussed my doubt with them about why and how the resin part that linked with the foot could have broken. They mentioned a lot of different reasons about the breakage such as:
The doll has been dropped or shook during transition. But it doesn’t seem like a reasonable explanation for this damage because the broken part is quite smooth, otherwise the ball-shaped ankle resin part and the foot should have been broken into pieces if it was dropped. Other easily exposed body parts such as the ball-shaped resin/ the fingers or other resin products included such as the mask should have received similar level of damage too if the box had indeed been careless treated during transition instead of the broken non-exposed resin part from the picture, which was the hook of the foot.
The foot was bent. My friend explained with photos of her own Soom doll via stretching the elastic string and moving the ball-shaped ankle resin part. From the photos, it seems really hard to bend the resin part where the hook attaches to the foot without taking the foot out and simply by bending the foot to make it break.
A very sharp thing has cut the attachment part. But there was no any sharp thing included in the package, and there is no evidence that it has received a cut which had gone through both the exterior Soom box, official the Gem box and bubble sheets in order to damage the doll.
My friends and I have talked about a lot of people usually concern about the fingers or the additional parts of Soom dolls might be broken in transit. But based on Minerva’s reply, only the hook attachment part inside the foot was damaged.
Her messages sound like she is accusing me to be the cause of the damage that was found on the doll after she has received it, and she seems to try to talk me into refunding her for this. But since I have not done anything that could have caused this damage nor have caused it indirectly, thus I don’t think I am responsible for the refund.
Also I want to tell everyone be more careful to have a transaction with her because of her attitude in her replies and made me terribly uncomfortable the whole time. Her latest message makes me really concern that she’s trying to ask me for a refund for something that I have not done. The above photo is a screencap of her message and apart from the accusation, her attitude makes me feel like I am belittled and also not being trusted like I am a liar.
I searched her name online to see if she had some problem transactions with other bjd owners. And I found some posts about her attitude on BJD confessions: http://truebjdconfessions.tumblr.com/tagged/Minerva
Thank you so much for spending time on reading this.
So here is my poor friend @feeeeebe whom I’ve known for at least 7 years in person. She’s one of the most honest and trustworthy people that I know. I can put my life in her hand and that’s how much I believe her. That’s why I don’t believe she would mail a broken doll to someone else for money because she will never take advantage from others like this.
I CANNOT accept how Minerva on DOA has accused my friend for something that she hasn’t done at all and the reason behind this accuse is also irrational. Since I don’t know much about this DOA member, so if you or someone you know have been through similar things when you came across this DOA member, please contact my friend and give her some possible info on how she can deal with this. Since practically DOA moderator can’t really do anything for her, so I’m seeking help here.
Apart from the suspicious breakage, I CAN’T accept Minerva’s attitude at all. She’s been treating my friend like my friend is an idiot. If she has spoken to my friend politely, I’m sure my friend would have tried her best to solve this peacefully. But after this attitude and the all of a sudden claim on Paypal, I can’t think of anything to help my friend to get through this.
This Minerva chick seems a lot like another person I knew on DoA who threw a fit about her Angel Street doll being damaged to Mint on Card. They eventually blocked her because it was slight bubbles and knicks. I bought the doll from her because I felt sorry for it, and it had no such damage.
The break on that doll up there is TOO clean. I’ve broken parts and received broken parts that weren’t as clean as that. It looks like maybe they stored it in heat then cold, and pulled on the foot until it broke. Or there could have been a tiny crack in it which only fractured when pulled on too tightly.
Either way, I agree that if she signed for it, she accepted it as damaged.
I am sorry to hear that….I am sure you treat the doll very well, you still have the doll?
Yep, I agree the breakage is a way too clean, that was also one of the reasons that made me send the photos to my friends to discuss my doubt. Just a pure guess…If the broken part was made because of those reasons, then there must be someone opened the boxes to pull the doll…? Then it must be made in great strength to pull it until it broke…..
So a bit of updates here: Received a message from Minerva on Paypal but not on DOA:
From Buyer – (hiding her name) 17/05/2016 22:07 GMT+08:00 Your DoA feedback indicates that you had sold one (1) doll. This does not make you an expert at packaging for international shipment, as your packaging demonstrates. I would guess that either the box was dropped in shipment or that the doll was strung too tightly in the first place (i.e. the reason Soom ships their dolls with hands, feet, and head unstrung: to prevent breakage of this nature). Those are the only things which would cause the ankle hook to sheer off in this manner. Either way, I have already provided the costs to replace the damaged parts. It would be unlikely to get a proper resin match for an older doll such as this if ordering from Soom, so it’s going to have to be secondhand and preferably from the same doll edition. The insurance will not cover this.
Followings are my response just sent, I spent a whole night for typing this and I really need some sleep since I need to work few hours later. I am more active in other BJD communities than on DOA because I have lots of friends in those communities already. I don’t even know what to response to the sold doll…. I had some sold dolls on other communities - but I really seldom sell my BJDs because I have to make sure I like the doll so much before I get a new doll. I take so much time on making decisions on selling and buying a doll. However, I want to focus on some of my dolls now so I really need to find other BJD owners who like them more to take care of them. So the followings are my response on Paypal:
From Seller – (hiding my own name too) 18/05/2016 04:51 GMT+08:00 Hello Minerva, Thank you that you reviewed my feedbacks on DOA, not lots of feedbacks but they are all positive. I know you are active on DOA way longer than me but I am sure you know there are more than 1 BJD forum in the world (not even need to mention Facebook groups and Flickr groups, there are tons in FB and Flickr), I have plenty of transactions in other BJD communities, online platform and offline transactions too, especially in Asian countries. If you are only counting sold doll on DOA, indeed I have only 1 sold doll on DOA feedback thread. But if you are counting all transactions that I had on other forums and transactions, I guess I have more than 50 transactions with zero negative feedbacks received (each transaction can contain more than 1 items) that are related to BJD stuffs and more than 10 dolls (not including those transactions on DOA). I have to admit that I seldom sold my dolls because I really love them. And I am not making any profit by selling them. Just because I just hope to find other owners who like them more if I am selling them since I want to focus on some of my dolls now. Just a sharing, I would not say I own BJDs for long time compared to you at least for 10 years – I really hope my BJDs stay with me forever and I am still keeping my first doll for years. My 1st doll was owned by different owners and she was not kept in a good condition before she arrived to my place but now she is in perfect condition (The doll company was closed – I could not even get any replacement or anything). I know you are not happy about the broken, I am very sad too. No one wants any part of the doll is broken. However, I have no any clue why you keep saying that I am trying to amend something, I am just saying the truth what happened with this package. I did not even say a word about my view until you started saying I was trying to amend in the message on DOA. I only asked you if you had contacted the local post office already and if you could show more photos to me and the post office. Your 1st paragraph in your latest message showing you are an expert on mailing dolls and yes - you have been member on DOA earlier than me (I was too young to afford to get a BJD at that time), then I guess you kind of know on the following few important things in shipping perspective that many BJD owners know if they have some sold dolls transactions. The following few points were also pointed out by the staffs in the conversations when I was asking them about this issue in the Post office on Monday: 1) If you think the package was not “appropriate” when you receive it, you SHOULD NOT SIGN the package and REPORT IMMEDIATELY to the delivery staff about the issue. 2) Since you have your package fully insurance, the best way to protect your right as a buyer - you SHOULD CHECK and OPEN your package IN FRONT OF THE DELIVERY STAFF and report to he/she IMMEDIATELY if there is anything broken. 3) a- Assume you received your package at your place: If signed and opened the package already after the delivery staff left without telling him/her immediately there was any problem or issue about the package (that also means you have acknowledged the delivery staff the package was ok). So it probably will be a concern from the Post office staffs that you might have broken the doll no matter it was accidentally or in purpose after that. b- Assume you collected them in post office: Check the items in the post office to make sure the stuffs inside the package was correct and not broken during transit before moving it back home. Regarding to your assumption, no matter the damage was made by dropped or strung, they are all pure guess. Even I have a lot of pure guess too, but I am surprised that you said tight strung since it was mentioned by some other BJD owners on the public posts. Let me have this paragraph about the assumptions, in your assumption of the tight strung might have caused the hook was broken, I would like to point out the ball shaped part of the ankle does not it have any trace of damage and it looks super good in condition. In fact, I didn’t restring the doll at all and I am pretty sure it is not tight because Chalco (the doll) did not sit with the straight legs and feet (this is one of different ways to prove it is tight strung or not). But if you wanted to ship the doll unstrung, you could have requested to receive the doll unstrung from the beginning as you know super well about Soom how they pack the dolls. As I mentioned, those part with thinner resin parts would have been broken if the box was dropped. And there are a lot of BJD companies that sending the full doll without restrung unless they allowed you to specify to have the doll restrung for shipping. I really think I need to mention this point again – the other part of the doll, especially those with thin resin parts, fingers or the skull would also have been broken if I did not pack the doll nicely. And I am sure you know in your deep heart if you are a Soom owner for so long that those thin resin extra parts and fingers are always be a concern for the buyers that those parts might be easily broken even for those dolls that have been well-packed and sent from the official doll companies. But in this case, everything are arrived safely except that part. Thank you, Phoebe
So few days ago, I received a phone call from Paypal on 18 May that Minerva actually escalated it to a claim. Here is the details after my reponses from the above.
18/05/2016 06:15 GMT+08:00 - PayPal: Buyer escalated this dispute to a claim. 18/05/2016 06:15 GMT+08:00 - Buyer: Replacement of the broken doll parts will cost $150 + shipping (approximately $25). The requested refund will cover this.I can provide photos of all damage including damage to the packaging if necessary. Please let me know if any further information is needed. 18/05/2016 06:11 GMT+08:00 - Buyer: I hear from you a lot of reasons why I shouldn’t expect the doll I had purchased to arrive in the same condition in which it was purchased. That isn’t going to work though. I am not going to be out the money for replacement of the broken parts. If you aren’t going to offer a refund to make amends, Paypal can deal with this issue.I would be happy to provide to Paypal any photos or other details required to make a decision on this claim.
I really don’t know where she came the conclusion that I mentioned or imply anything about “the buyer should not expect the doll she had purchased to arrive in the same condition in which it was purchased.” I did not make any amends on the damage but I do really feel sorry about the breakage - I tried my best to wrap it nicely and also gave her additionals (wig and eyes) as a present - hope she could take care the doll nicely. I even went the post office to ask for details about the insurance before. After she escalated it to a claim on Paypal, now she is willing to provide every single details (including damages) to Paypal. However, she refused to do it when I asked her to have more photos and show them to the post office in the beggining. She kept saying the “inappropriate packaging” and I am really not convinced that she did went to the post office to file a claim. Followings are my reponses on today after she escalate the dispute to a claim.
I strongly disagree that I have ever made any amends for the damage because I did not do anything to cause the damage directly or indirectly. Now, I am wondering the reason why you keep saying “make amends” because you are just trying to push the “responsibilities” from nowhere to me to get the money in order to pay less for the doll. I am not sure if you really did ask local post office on the first day you were unboxing the doll. According to your words, you said you brought stuffs to the post office to discuss an insurance claim but they are refusing a claim due to the packaging being “insufficient” for an item this size. However, when I looked up to USPS website, it says the customer must go to a Post Office to report items that are damaged and should complete different forms and damage report of insured article and contents. For the priority mail international items, insured or ordinary parcels or registered mail items, foreign posts approximately 60 days to research and respond to the International Research Group. So I am really curious how come the local post office came to conclusion so quickly, even less than a day?
I received some PM from some of our DOA members and other BJD owners on tumblr, I am really appreciated everyone who actually read the posts and sent me messages for advice.
And today I saw there are some “hearts” from other DOA members in the posts of the problem transaction thread…..
Thanks everyone! I will try to keep everything updated.
I feel like she’s totally scamming you right now and she won’t stop until she gets the money =_____=
Question, @feeeeebe… Did this person pay in payments at all, or in one payment? If they made payments at all, then you win period. Tell PayPal that they made payments and they’re not protected at all, so you win by default. It certainly sounds like she is trying to get you to pay for repairs for something she caused. To be honest, the damages look legit from her rushing to get the wrapping off, and trying to pull too hard, so it snapped the foot off the leg. The box damaging is superficial, and wouldn’t cause any damages to the doll at all. She didn’t show any photos of the doll wrapped up right after opening the box top. She’s a liar. She never checked with the post office.. She just doest want to pay the fees because she knows it’s not a legitimate claim they would cover.
You meant did she pay as a layaway or one-time payment? She did it one-time payment.
After I went to the post office, I started thinking she actually did not go to post office at all... Because it does not sound very legit to deal with an international package, especially for an insured one.
I don’t want myself to come to conclusion so soon about her actual motive. But I feel like she did not even try to discuss the insurance claim from post office but she is super aggressive on pushing me to refund to her...
Tiring transaction.
I am super pissed about my first problem transaction on DOA. I sent my last message to her 9 May 2016 and I have never received her message ever since. And today I logged into my Paypal account and she requested a refund on the doll on 14 May 2016. She wrote: “
“Since the post office has refused the insurance claim due to damaged and insufficient packaging as shown in photos, it falls upon you to make amends for the damage your lack of proper packaging has caused. The current going rate for the damaged doll part as per Den of Angels forum is $150 + shipping. I request a refund of $175 to cover the replacement part.”
It has been super extremely stressful and tiring to deal with this transaction.
I had a transaction with Minerva on DOA. She contacted me and said she was interested in it. We agreed with the transaction after I double checked with her about Soom Chalco’s status which it was not a brand new doll.
After she received the doll, she sent me 2 photos of a broken part of the doll.
I was super shocked and asked her if she had contacted her local EMS delivery office immediately as the package was fully insured. Then she came back to me and said the post office refused the claim due to “insufficient” packaging. If the post office said they are not accepting the insurance claim but did they give she the form to fill in to request for a claim for an international package? And I am not sure if the Customs opened the package or not.
I have never seen a breakage like this before neither have I received any feedback about issues like this for all of the previous dolls that I have sold. Chalco and all the extra parts were wrapped with thick bubble sheets to make sure everything were secured in the box and ensured the doll was not moving in the box. Each leg was wrapped with bubble sheets individually, and tape was used to secure the 2 legs together in order to prevent the legs crushing with each other which could have resulted in damage of the resin surface. I also put extra bubble sheets at the bottom of the GEM official box. If the doll was not packed in a proper way, otherwise the ball-shaped ankle resin part and the foot should have been broken into pieces during transition. Or other easily exposed body parts such as the ball-shaped resin/ the fingers or other resin products included such as the mask should have received similar level of damage too if the box had indeed been careless treated during transition. So I asked her about whether she had more photos of the doll and the box before she had entirely unpacked the doll which could be shown to the post office for the refund.
She sent me photos of the exterior box (from Soom) with some crumpled box edges and an obvious hole which was absent before the doll was shipped.
I don’t think these photos were taken before she unpacked the doll.
She also sent me some pictures of the crumble edges of the GEM official box with the full set of Chalco inside.
She said the exterior box was damaged but she still signed the package and now come back to me and tell me the exterior box is damaged.
Also, she said the GEM official box was damaged which I could only see from the photos that the edges were slightly crumbled. (Seriously, I have never heard this kind of crumbled edges is also considered as a damage.)
My friends and I have talked about a lot of people usually concern about the fingers or the additional parts of Soom dolls might be broken in transit. But based on Minerva’s reply, only the hook attachment part inside the foot was damaged. She said the exterior box was damaged but she still signed the package and now she comes back to me and claimed that the doll has not been packed properly.
I am very very upset about Chalco’s damage and I was the one who was asking for more photos to see if the photos might help Minerva to claim the insurance from the post office. But after I’ve asked different photos from Minerva, she only came back to me with this message:
I am very frustrated about what she said about the doll was not packaged in a proper way. The photos she sent me with the remaining parts of Chalco were still wrapped in very thick bubble sheet. My BJD friends and I have been using this method to ship dolls for many years and I have never seen and received feedbacks of any similar damage like this. And Minerva kept saying those crumpled edges of the paper box was a “damage”.
I sent the photos of the broken part to my friends to ask what are the possibilities to have a non-exposed resin part of the doll to be broken like this. Some of my friends (who are
Soom
owners) and I discussed my doubt with them about why and how the resin part that linked with the foot could have broken. They mentioned a lot of different reasons about the breakage such as:
The doll has been dropped or shook during transition. But it doesn’t seem like a reasonable explanation for this damage because the broken part is quite smooth, otherwise the ball-shaped ankle resin part and the foot should have been broken into pieces if it was dropped. Other easily exposed body parts such as the ball-shaped resin/ the fingers or other resin products included such as the mask should have received similar level of damage too if the box had indeed been careless treated during transition instead of the broken non-exposed resin part from the picture, which was the hook of the foot.
The foot was bent. My friend explained with photos of her own Soom doll via stretching the elastic string and moving the ball-shaped ankle resin part. From the photos, it seems really hard to bend the resin part where the hook attaches to the foot without taking the foot out and simply by bending the foot to make it break.
A very sharp thing has cut the attachment part. But there was no any sharp thing included in the package, and there is no evidence that it has received a cut which had gone through both the exterior Soom box, official the Gem box and bubble sheets in order to damage the doll.
My friends and I have talked about a lot of people usually concern about the fingers or the additional parts of Soom dolls might be broken in transit. But based on Minerva’s reply, only the hook attachment part inside the foot was damaged.
Her messages sound like she is accusing me to be the cause of the damage that was found on the doll after she has received it, and she seems to try to talk me into refunding her for this. But since I have not done anything that could have caused this damage nor have caused it indirectly, thus I don’t think I am responsible for the refund.
Also I want to tell everyone be more careful to have a transaction with her because of her attitude in her replies and made me terribly uncomfortable the whole time. Her latest message makes me really concern that she’s trying to ask me for a refund for something that I have not done. The above photo is a screencap of her message and apart from the accusation, her attitude makes me feel like I am belittled and also not being trusted like I am a liar.
I searched her name online to see if she had some problem transactions with other bjd owners. And I found some posts about her attitude on BJD confessions: http://truebjdconfessions.tumblr.com/tagged/Minerva
Thank you so much for spending time on reading this.
So here is my poor friend @feeeeebe whom I’ve known for at least 7 years in person. She’s one of the most honest and trustworthy people that I know. I can put my life in her hand and that’s how much I believe her. That’s why I don’t believe she would mail a broken doll to someone else for money because she will never take advantage from others like this.
I CANNOT accept how Minerva on DOA has accused my friend for something that she hasn’t done at all and the reason behind this accuse is also irrational. Since I don’t know much about this DOA member, so if you or someone you know have been through similar things when you came across this DOA member, please contact my friend and give her some possible info on how she can deal with this. Since practically DOA moderator can’t really do anything for her, so I’m seeking help here.
Apart from the suspicious breakage, I CAN’T accept Minerva’s attitude at all. She’s been treating my friend like my friend is an idiot. If she has spoken to my friend politely, I’m sure my friend would have tried her best to solve this peacefully. But after this attitude and the all of a sudden claim on Paypal, I can’t think of anything to help my friend to get through this.
This Minerva chick seems a lot like another person I knew on DoA who threw a fit about her Angel Street doll being damaged to Mint on Card. They eventually blocked her because it was slight bubbles and knicks. I bought the doll from her because I felt sorry for it, and it had no such damage.
The break on that doll up there is TOO clean. I’ve broken parts and received broken parts that weren’t as clean as that. It looks like maybe they stored it in heat then cold, and pulled on the foot until it broke. Or there could have been a tiny crack in it which only fractured when pulled on too tightly.
Either way, I agree that if she signed for it, she accepted it as damaged.
I am sorry to hear that….I am sure you treat the doll very well, you still have the doll?
Yep, I agree the breakage is a way too clean, that was also one of the reasons that made me send the photos to my friends to discuss my doubt. Just a pure guess…If the broken part was made because of those reasons, then there must be someone opened the boxes to pull the doll…? Then it must be made in great strength to pull it until it broke…..
So a bit of updates here: Received a message from Minerva on Paypal but not on DOA:
From Buyer – (hiding her name) 17/05/2016 22:07 GMT+08:00 Your DoA feedback indicates that you had sold one (1) doll. This does not make you an expert at packaging for international shipment, as your packaging demonstrates. I would guess that either the box was dropped in shipment or that the doll was strung too tightly in the first place (i.e. the reason Soom ships their dolls with hands, feet, and head unstrung: to prevent breakage of this nature). Those are the only things which would cause the ankle hook to sheer off in this manner. Either way, I have already provided the costs to replace the damaged parts. It would be unlikely to get a proper resin match for an older doll such as this if ordering from Soom, so it's going to have to be secondhand and preferably from the same doll edition. The insurance will not cover this.
Followings are my response just sent, I spent a whole night for typing this and I really need some sleep since I need to work few hours later. I am more active in other BJD communities than on DOA because I have lots of friends in those communities already. I don't even know what to response to the sold doll.... I had some sold dolls on other communities - but I really seldom sell my BJDs because I have to make sure I like the doll so much before I get a new doll. I take so much time on making decisions on selling and buying a doll. However, I want to focus on some of my dolls now so I really need to find other BJD owners who like them more to take care of them. So the followings are my response on Paypal:
From Seller – (hiding my own name too) 18/05/2016 04:51 GMT+08:00 Hello Minerva, Thank you that you reviewed my feedbacks on DOA, not lots of feedbacks but they are all positive. I know you are active on DOA way longer than me but I am sure you know there are more than 1 BJD forum in the world (not even need to mention Facebook groups and Flickr groups, there are tons in FB and Flickr), I have plenty of transactions in other BJD communities, online platform and offline transactions too, especially in Asian countries. If you are only counting sold doll on DOA, indeed I have only 1 sold doll on DOA feedback thread. But if you are counting all transactions that I had on other forums and transactions, I guess I have more than 50 transactions with zero negative feedbacks received (each transaction can contain more than 1 items) that are related to BJD stuffs and more than 10 dolls (not including those transactions on DOA). I have to admit that I seldom sold my dolls because I really love them. And I am not making any profit by selling them. Just because I just hope to find other owners who like them more if I am selling them since I want to focus on some of my dolls now. Just a sharing, I would not say I own BJDs for long time compared to you at least for 10 years – I really hope my BJDs stay with me forever and I am still keeping my first doll for years. My 1st doll was owned by different owners and she was not kept in a good condition before she arrived to my place but now she is in perfect condition (The doll company was closed – I could not even get any replacement or anything). I know you are not happy about the broken, I am very sad too. No one wants any part of the doll is broken. However, I have no any clue why you keep saying that I am trying to amend something, I am just saying the truth what happened with this package. I did not even say a word about my view until you started saying I was trying to amend in the message on DOA. I only asked you if you had contacted the local post office already and if you could show more photos to me and the post office. Your 1st paragraph in your latest message showing you are an expert on mailing dolls and yes - you have been member on DOA earlier than me (I was too young to afford to get a BJD at that time), then I guess you kind of know on the following few important things in shipping perspective that many BJD owners know if they have some sold dolls transactions. The following few points were also pointed out by the staffs in the conversations when I was asking them about this issue in the Post office on Monday: 1) If you think the package was not "appropriate" when you receive it, you SHOULD NOT SIGN the package and REPORT IMMEDIATELY to the delivery staff about the issue. 2) Since you have your package fully insurance, the best way to protect your right as a buyer - you SHOULD CHECK and OPEN your package IN FRONT OF THE DELIVERY STAFF and report to he/she IMMEDIATELY if there is anything broken. 3) a- Assume you received your package at your place: If signed and opened the package already after the delivery staff left without telling him/her immediately there was any problem or issue about the package (that also means you have acknowledged the delivery staff the package was ok). So it probably will be a concern from the Post office staffs that you might have broken the doll no matter it was accidentally or in purpose after that. b- Assume you collected them in post office: Check the items in the post office to make sure the stuffs inside the package was correct and not broken during transit before moving it back home. Regarding to your assumption, no matter the damage was made by dropped or strung, they are all pure guess. Even I have a lot of pure guess too, but I am surprised that you said tight strung since it was mentioned by some other BJD owners on the public posts. Let me have this paragraph about the assumptions, in your assumption of the tight strung might have caused the hook was broken, I would like to point out the ball shaped part of the ankle does not it have any trace of damage and it looks super good in condition. In fact, I didn't restring the doll at all and I am pretty sure it is not tight because Chalco (the doll) did not sit with the straight legs and feet (this is one of different ways to prove it is tight strung or not). But if you wanted to ship the doll unstrung, you could have requested to receive the doll unstrung from the beginning as you know super well about Soom how they pack the dolls. As I mentioned, those part with thinner resin parts would have been broken if the box was dropped. And there are a lot of BJD companies that sending the full doll without restrung unless they allowed you to specify to have the doll restrung for shipping. I really think I need to mention this point again – the other part of the doll, especially those with thin resin parts, fingers or the skull would also have been broken if I did not pack the doll nicely. And I am sure you know in your deep heart if you are a Soom owner for so long that those thin resin extra parts and fingers are always be a concern for the buyers that those parts might be easily broken even for those dolls that have been well-packed and sent from the official doll companies. But in this case, everything are arrived safely except that part. Thank you, Phoebe
So few days ago, I received a phone call from Paypal on 18 May that Minerva actually escalated it to a claim. Here is the details after my reponses from the above.
18/05/2016 06:15 GMT+08:00 - PayPal: Buyer escalated this dispute to a claim. 18/05/2016 06:15 GMT+08:00 - Buyer: Replacement of the broken doll parts will cost $150 + shipping (approximately $25). The requested refund will cover this.I can provide photos of all damage including damage to the packaging if necessary. Please let me know if any further information is needed. 18/05/2016 06:11 GMT+08:00 - Buyer: I hear from you a lot of reasons why I shouldn't expect the doll I had purchased to arrive in the same condition in which it was purchased. That isn't going to work though. I am not going to be out the money for replacement of the broken parts. If you aren't going to offer a refund to make amends, Paypal can deal with this issue.I would be happy to provide to Paypal any photos or other details required to make a decision on this claim.
I really don't know where she came the conclusion that I mentioned or imply anything about "the buyer should not expect the doll she had purchased to arrive in the same condition in which it was purchased." I did not make any amends on the damage but I do really feel sorry about the breakage - I tried my best to wrap it nicely and also gave her additionals (wig and eyes) as a present - hope she could take care the doll nicely. I even went the post office to ask for details about the insurance before. After she escalated it to a claim on Paypal, now she is willing to provide every single details (including damages) to Paypal. However, she refused to do it when I asked her to have more photos and show them to the post office in the beggining. She kept saying the "inappropriate packaging" and I am really not convinced that she did went to the post office to file a claim. Followings are my reponses on today after she escalate the dispute to a claim.
I strongly disagree that I have ever made any amends for the damage because I did not do anything to cause the damage directly or indirectly. Now, I am wondering the reason why you keep saying “make amends” because you are just trying to push the “responsibilities” from nowhere to me to get the money in order to pay less for the doll. I am not sure if you really did ask local post office on the first day you were unboxing the doll. According to your words, you said you brought stuffs to the post office to discuss an insurance claim but they are refusing a claim due to the packaging being "insufficient" for an item this size. However, when I looked up to USPS website, it says the customer must go to a Post Office to report items that are damaged and should complete different forms and damage report of insured article and contents. For the priority mail international items, insured or ordinary parcels or registered mail items, foreign posts approximately 60 days to research and respond to the International Research Group. So I am really curious how come the local post office came to conclusion so quickly, even less than a day?
I received some PM from some of our DOA members and other BJD owners on tumblr, I am really appreciated everyone who actually read the posts and sent me messages for advice.
And today I saw there are some “hearts” from other DOA members in the posts of the problem transaction thread.....
Thanks everyone! I will try to keep everything updated.
She is my another doll, she is Eris. I got her few years ago from another doll owner because she was sold out..... I was super sad that I would never have her with me :’(
I am super not active on Tumblr (even on DOA), so I am posting one latest photo of my beloved doll here. She is my 1st BJD and I am still loving her soooooooooo much... More than 8 years of BJD hobby, I am super happy that I joined BJD community - I met a lot of awesome people and I found one of my best friends because of BJDs.
Tiring transaction.
I am super pissed about my first problem transaction on DOA. I sent my last message to her 9 May 2016 and I have never received her message ever since. And today I logged into my Paypal account and she requested a refund on the doll on 14 May 2016. She wrote: “
“Since the post office has refused the insurance claim due to damaged and insufficient packaging as shown in photos, it falls upon you to make amends for the damage your lack of proper packaging has caused. The current going rate for the damaged doll part as per Den of Angels forum is $150 + shipping. I request a refund of $175 to cover the replacement part.”
It has been super extremely stressful and tiring to deal with this transaction.
I had a transaction with Minerva on DOA. She contacted me and said she was interested in it. We agreed with the transaction after I double checked with her about Soom Chalco’s status which it was not a brand new doll.
After she received the doll, she sent me 2 photos of a broken part of the doll.
I was super shocked and asked her if she had contacted her local EMS delivery office immediately as the package was fully insured. Then she came back to me and said the post office refused the claim due to “insufficient” packaging. If the post office said they are not accepting the insurance claim but did they give she the form to fill in to request for a claim for an international package? And I am not sure if the Customs opened the package or not.
I have never seen a breakage like this before neither have I received any feedback about issues like this for all of the previous dolls that I have sold. Chalco and all the extra parts were wrapped with thick bubble sheets to make sure everything were secured in the box and ensured the doll was not moving in the box. Each leg was wrapped with bubble sheets individually, and tape was used to secure the 2 legs together in order to prevent the legs crushing with each other which could have resulted in damage of the resin surface. I also put extra bubble sheets at the bottom of the GEM official box. If the doll was not packed in a proper way, otherwise the ball-shaped ankle resin part and the foot should have been broken into pieces during transition. Or other easily exposed body parts such as the ball-shaped resin/ the fingers or other resin products included such as the mask should have received similar level of damage too if the box had indeed been careless treated during transition. So I asked her about whether she had more photos of the doll and the box before she had entirely unpacked the doll which could be shown to the post office for the refund.
She sent me photos of the exterior box (from Soom) with some crumpled box edges and an obvious hole which was absent before the doll was shipped.
I don’t think these photos were taken before she unpacked the doll.
She also sent me some pictures of the crumble edges of the GEM official box with the full set of Chalco inside.
She said the exterior box was damaged but she still signed the package and now come back to me and tell me the exterior box is damaged.
Also, she said the GEM official box was damaged which I could only see from the photos that the edges were slightly crumbled. (Seriously, I have never heard this kind of crumbled edges is also considered as a damage.)
My friends and I have talked about a lot of people usually concern about the fingers or the additional parts of Soom dolls might be broken in transit. But based on Minerva’s reply, only the hook attachment part inside the foot was damaged. She said the exterior box was damaged but she still signed the package and now she comes back to me and claimed that the doll has not been packed properly.
I am very very upset about Chalco’s damage and I was the one who was asking for more photos to see if the photos might help Minerva to claim the insurance from the post office. But after I’ve asked different photos from Minerva, she only came back to me with this message:
I am very frustrated about what she said about the doll was not packaged in a proper way. The photos she sent me with the remaining parts of Chalco were still wrapped in very thick bubble sheet. My BJD friends and I have been using this method to ship dolls for many years and I have never seen and received feedbacks of any similar damage like this. And Minerva kept saying those crumpled edges of the paper box was a “damage”.
I sent the photos of the broken part to my friends to ask what are the possibilities to have a non-exposed resin part of the doll to be broken like this. Some of my friends (who are
Soom
owners) and I discussed my doubt with them about why and how the resin part that linked with the foot could have broken. They mentioned a lot of different reasons about the breakage such as:
The doll has been dropped or shook during transition. But it doesn’t seem like a reasonable explanation for this damage because the broken part is quite smooth, otherwise the ball-shaped ankle resin part and the foot should have been broken into pieces if it was dropped. Other easily exposed body parts such as the ball-shaped resin/ the fingers or other resin products included such as the mask should have received similar level of damage too if the box had indeed been careless treated during transition instead of the broken non-exposed resin part from the picture, which was the hook of the foot.
The foot was bent. My friend explained with photos of her own Soom doll via stretching the elastic string and moving the ball-shaped ankle resin part. From the photos, it seems really hard to bend the resin part where the hook attaches to the foot without taking the foot out and simply by bending the foot to make it break.
A very sharp thing has cut the attachment part. But there was no any sharp thing included in the package, and there is no evidence that it has received a cut which had gone through both the exterior Soom box, official the Gem box and bubble sheets in order to damage the doll.
My friends and I have talked about a lot of people usually concern about the fingers or the additional parts of Soom dolls might be broken in transit. But based on Minerva’s reply, only the hook attachment part inside the foot was damaged.
Her messages sound like she is accusing me to be the cause of the damage that was found on the doll after she has received it, and she seems to try to talk me into refunding her for this. But since I have not done anything that could have caused this damage nor have caused it indirectly, thus I don’t think I am responsible for the refund.
Also I want to tell everyone be more careful to have a transaction with her because of her attitude in her replies and made me terribly uncomfortable the whole time. Her latest message makes me really concern that she’s trying to ask me for a refund for something that I have not done. The above photo is a screencap of her message and apart from the accusation, her attitude makes me feel like I am belittled and also not being trusted like I am a liar.
I searched her name online to see if she had some problem transactions with other bjd owners. And I found some posts about her attitude on BJD confessions: http://truebjdconfessions.tumblr.com/tagged/Minerva
Thank you so much for spending time on reading this.
So here is my poor friend @feeeeebe whom I’ve known for at least 7 years in person. She’s one of the most honest and trustworthy people that I know. I can put my life in her hand and that’s how much I believe her. That’s why I don’t believe she would mail a broken doll to someone else for money because she will never take advantage from others like this.
I CANNOT accept how Minerva on DOA has accused my friend for something that she hasn’t done at all and the reason behind this accuse is also irrational. Since I don’t know much about this DOA member, so if you or someone you know have been through similar things when you came across this DOA member, please contact my friend and give her some possible info on how she can deal with this. Since practically DOA moderator can’t really do anything for her, so I’m seeking help here.
Apart from the suspicious breakage, I CAN’T accept Minerva’s attitude at all. She’s been treating my friend like my friend is an idiot. If she has spoken to my friend politely, I’m sure my friend would have tried her best to solve this peacefully. But after this attitude and the all of a sudden claim on Paypal, I can’t think of anything to help my friend to get through this.
This Minerva chick seems a lot like another person I knew on DoA who threw a fit about her Angel Street doll being damaged to Mint on Card. They eventually blocked her because it was slight bubbles and knicks. I bought the doll from her because I felt sorry for it, and it had no such damage.
The break on that doll up there is TOO clean. I’ve broken parts and received broken parts that weren’t as clean as that. It looks like maybe they stored it in heat then cold, and pulled on the foot until it broke. Or there could have been a tiny crack in it which only fractured when pulled on too tightly.
Either way, I agree that if she signed for it, she accepted it as damaged.
I am sorry to hear that....I am sure you treat the doll very well, you still have the doll?
Yep, I agree the breakage is a way too clean, that was also one of the reasons that made me send the photos to my friends to discuss my doubt. Just a pure guess...If the broken part was made because of those reasons, then there must be someone opened the boxes to pull the doll...? Then it must be made in great strength to pull it until it broke.....
Tiring transaction.
I am super pissed about my first problem transaction on DOA. I had a transaction with Minerva on DOA. She contacted me and said she was interested in it. We agreed with the transaction after I double checked with her about Soom Chalco’s status. She sent me 2 photos of the broken part of the doll after she received the doll. I was shocked and was thinking what made this part broken like this so I asked her for more photos. After couples of messages, she refused to send me more pictures.
I sent my last message to her 9 May 2016 and I have never received her message ever since. And today I logged into my Paypal account and she requested a refund on the doll on 14 May 2016.
She wrote something on Paypal on the issue:
“Since the post office has refused the insurance claim due to damaged and insufficient packaging as shown in photos, it falls upon you to make amends for the damage your lack of proper packaging has caused. The current going rate for the damaged doll part as per Den of Angels forum is $150 + shipping. I request a refund of $175 to cover the replacement part.”
It has been super extremely stressful and tiring to deal with this transaction.
Following are the details of the whole incident.
After she received the doll, she sent me 2 photos of a broken part of the doll.
I was super shocked and asked her if she had contacted her local EMS delivery office immediately as the package was fully insured. Then she came back to me and said the post office refused the claim due to "insufficient" packaging. If the post office said they are not accepting the insurance claim but did they give she the form to fill in to request for a claim for an international package? And I am not sure if the Customs opened the package or not.
I have never seen a breakage like this before neither have I received any feedback about issues like this for all of the previous dolls that I have sold. Chalco and all the extra parts were wrapped with thick bubble sheets to make sure everything were secured in the box and ensured the doll was not moving in the box. Each leg was wrapped with bubble sheets individually, and tape was used to secure the 2 legs together in order to prevent the legs crushing with each other which could have resulted in damage of the resin surface. I also put extra bubble sheets at the bottom of the GEM official box. If the doll was not packed in a proper way, otherwise the ball-shaped ankle resin part and the foot should have been broken into pieces during transition. Or other easily exposed body parts such as the ball-shaped resin/ the fingers or other resin products included such as the mask should have received similar level of damage too if the box had indeed been careless treated during transition. So I asked her about whether she had more photos of the doll and the box before she had entirely unpacked the doll which could be shown to the post office for the refund.
She sent me photos of the exterior box (from Soom) with some crumpled box edges and an obvious hole which was absent before the doll was shipped.
I don’t think these photos were taken before she unpacked the doll.
She also sent me some pictures of the crumble edges of the GEM official box with the full set of Chalco inside.
She said the exterior box was damaged but she still signed the package and now come back to me and tell me the exterior box is damaged.
Also, she said the GEM official box was damaged which I could only see from the photos that the edges were slightly crumbled. (Seriously, I have never heard this kind of crumbled edges is also considered as a damage.)
My friends and I have talked about a lot of people usually concern about the fingers or the additional parts of Soom dolls might be broken in transit. But based on Minerva’s reply, only the hook attachment part inside the foot was damaged. She said the exterior box was damaged but she still signed the package and now she comes back to me and claimed that the doll has not been packed properly.
I am very very upset about Chalco’s damage and I was the one who was asking for more photos to see if the photos might help Minerva to claim the insurance from the post office. But after I’ve asked different photos from Minerva, she only came back to me with this message:
I am very frustrated about what she said about the doll was not packaged in a proper way. The photos she sent me with the remaining parts of Chalco were still wrapped in very thick bubble sheet. My BJD friends and I have been using this method to ship dolls for many years and I have never seen and received feedbacks of any similar damage like this. And Minerva kept saying those crumpled edges of the paper box was a “damage”.
I sent the photos of the broken part to my friends to ask what are the possibilities to have a non-exposed resin part of the doll to be broken like this. Some of my friends (who are
Soom
owners) and I discussed my doubt with them about why and how the resin part that linked with the foot could have broken. They mentioned a lot of different reasons about the breakage such as:
The doll has been dropped or shook during transition. But it doesn’t seem like a reasonable explanation for this damage because the broken part is quite smooth, otherwise the ball-shaped ankle resin part and the foot should have been broken into pieces if it was dropped. Other easily exposed body parts such as the ball-shaped resin/ the fingers or other resin products included such as the mask should have received similar level of damage too if the box had indeed been careless treated during transition instead of the broken non-exposed resin part from the picture, which was the hook of the foot.
The foot was bent. My friend explained with photos of her own Soom doll via stretching the elastic string and moving the ball-shaped ankle resin part. From the photos, it seems really hard to bend the resin part where the hook attaches to the foot without taking the foot out and simply by bending the foot to make it break.
A very sharp thing has cut the attachment part. But there was no any sharp thing included in the package, and there is no evidence that it has received a cut which had gone through both the exterior Soom box, official the Gem box and bubble sheets in order to damage the doll.
My friends and I have talked about a lot of people usually concern about the fingers or the additional parts of Soom dolls might be broken in transit. But based on Minerva’s reply, only the hook attachment part inside the foot was damaged.
Her messages sound like she is accusing me to be the cause of the damage that was found on the doll after she has received it, and she seems to try to talk me into refunding her for this. But since I have not done anything that could have caused this damage nor have caused it indirectly, thus I don’t think I am responsible for the refund.
Also I want to tell everyone be more careful to have a transaction with her because of her attitude in her replies and made me terribly uncomfortable the whole time. Her latest message makes me really concern that she’s trying to ask me for a refund for something that I have not done. The above photo is a screencap of her message and apart from the accusation, her attitude makes me feel like I am belittled and also not being trusted like I am a liar.
I searched her name online to see if she had some problem transactions with other bjd owners. And I found some posts about her attitude on BJD confessions: http://truebjdconfessions.tumblr.com/tagged/Minerva
Thank you so much for spending time on reading this.
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It’s giveaway time!
To celebrate Dorset’s 6th anniversary, and 600 followers on this blog, I’m having a little giveaway!
The prize is a $70 gift voucher for bjd clothing from my store. I make clothing for bjds of various sizes, from YoSD boys and girls, right up to EID girls.
The Rules:
One like and one reblog per person. Multiple reblogs don’t show up, so it’s a waste of time, and you don’t want to annoy your followers with spamming!
Anyone can enter. You do not have to be following me, but if someone who is following me wins, I will chuck in something special in their package as a thank you for putting up with me.
Shipping is extra. This is just a gift voucher for my items. If you spend under the $70 and want to use the rest for shipping I’m happy to do that, but if you spend the whole $70, then shipping is extra.
Giveaway ends at noon, March 15th Australian EDST. So you have 10 days! Winners will be notified by their ask box, and will have 24 hours to reply. Please make sure your ask box is open, because if it isn’t I will simply redraw the winner.
And I think that’s it! Thanks to everyone who has supported me over the years, and who sticks around following this crazy blog!