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I needed this so I created this.
Having multiple strong interests that stay in my mind forever causes the craziest crossover concepts. Why am I thinking about Siffrin in the world of Pathologic right now
Oh my god Bonnie hanging out with the Soul-and-a-Halves
Having multiple strong interests that stay in my mind forever causes the craziest crossover concepts. Why am I thinking about Siffrin in the world of Pathologic right now
I love Mirabelle I wish she was real
Happy new years Loop 😊
We can say Deltarune tomorrow again
It feels like ISAT has been out for so much longer than two years
sexual tension is an amazing feeling which is basically ruined by having sex
romantic tension is an amazing feeling which is basically ruined by getting together
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You all need to get more aro Quickly!!!
We have got to get weirder about bonding... "Seems contradictory that a religion centered around change would still have marriage" — the Doylist explanation is that id5 didn't worry that much about it, but Watsonianly it's NOT marriage.
So what do we know it is?
Isabeau says people who bond "spend a very long time together." So it's a long-term commitment. But "very long" is relative — in a change-focused culture, I could see 10 or 5 or even 3 years being considered a very long time to stick to one choice. And "spend time together" doesn't necesarily mean living together. It implies a consistency, not a constantcy. "Whatever you do together now, you're gonna keep doing it for a while" could mean cohabiting, but it could also mean weekly coffee dates or running a small business together.
Mirabelle says about her dating profiles that she's "choosing someone [she] could spend the rest of [her] life with." So bonds have the potential to be a life-long thing. But we can read that "could" to mean not just "I may or may not bond with this someone" but also "the bond may or may not be life long." Life-long bonds could be a somewhat common possibility without being the default ideal goal. Sort of like buying a house — it might work out great to stay there for the rest of your life, but you also might evolve in a direction where it no longer suits your needs, or you might have always meant it to be temporary. So just because bonding can be til-death-do-us-part doesn't mean that an earlier end would be culturally considered a failure, a tragedy, or a weakening of the relationship.
In act 6, someone says about the earrings couple that they "obviously immediately booked it to their bedroom." This implies to us that sex is expected — but when you take away our cultural lens of marriage, all it actually means is that it's expected for newly-bonded partners to spend some private time together. It could be a time that's used for any special bonding activity they choose. Or there might be a specific thing that partners do after exchanging the earrings as part of the bonding process, making this quote the equivalent of marriage's "they obviously booked it to the courthouse."
When Bonnie asks what people do when they love each other very much, it makes the bonding convo awkward for a moment, which Isabeau quickly moves the conversation past by saying "... Many things happen." Again, this implies to us that the answer was "sex," but we can choose to interpret it other ways. Maybe sex is one of the options, so oops can't list all the most popular options in front of Bonnie. Or maybe some other aspect of dating/bonding is considered inappropriate for children, which is a list that can vary a ton by culture. Or maybe an aspect is inappropriate to talk about in general, perhaps because there's a specific time/place where you're supposed to learn about / discuss it, or because it's considered personal to each set of partners.
Mirabelle says, "I have to date, I have to love someone in a romantic way, I have to... Do things with them... I have to bond with them I have to sleep with them I have to have children with them I have to love them in this very specific way." This implies that romance, sex, bonding, and having kids are all lumped together. However, this is a topic that Mirabelle obviously has very strong anxieties about, and anxiety is great at exaggerating and assuming worst case scenarios. She might be doing the equivalent of saying "I have to get a job and put up with a shitty boss and customers will yell at me and I'll barely make a living wage," — which yes, are all things that can happen, and can happen together, and do happen fairly often, but that doesn't mean it's culturally expected for them to be inextricable and inevitable.
Romance, sex, and having kids might simply be some of the more commonly chosen options, in which case it still makes sense for Mirabelle to feel pressure as a Housemaiden to try allllllll the options. Or it could be expected that everyone does all of those things at some point, but maybe not within the same bond. Or it could be expected for these things to happen with other people in addition to your bonded partner(s), perhaps just more casually or less consistently.
And there could very well be other equally common options — or universal expectations — that Mirabelle left out because they don't feel like a big deal to her. Like, she didn't list "exchange earrings with them" in her venting even though that's the bit that we know is universal, because she finds that personally unobjectionable. (While she does end up expressing discomfort with her earrings when she realizes they're associated with bonding expectations, that means she's only realizing it just then, and her issue with them is their association with the real issues.) What else might she have not listed?
Coming back to my original point, Mirabelle says that "romantic love is one of the biggest ways to Change! It's supposed to change you, to bring you new experiences". This isn't just possible to read as different from marriage, it's directly contradictory. Yes, in real life people say that relationships change you, but marriage is often considered the end of those changes, to the point that ball-and-chain jokes are a cliché. Whatever we say our values are, in practice, modern western culture loves stabilizing people into units that produce children and effective workers. But in a culture that has "YEARLY FESTIVALS around showing yourself as a new person" — if our headcanons assume that Vaugarde's love of change is more than lip service, it's something that truly drives the culture — then why would they expect "one of the biggest ways to Change" to only happen once (or with multiple people at around the same time), then stabilize and stay that way forever and never happen again?
I'm not going to go into my headcanons because this post is long enough and I don't care as much what people think about them. I just really want to encourage people to put some more thought into their own! Maybe all bonds are hoped to be for life, and you can't get bonded again unless the first bond breaks up, and all bonded partners are expected to have romance and sex and babies. But maybe not! And there are so many other topics of cultural expectation around relationships that this post brushed past or didn't even touch on because the game didn't either: cohabitation, open vs closed relationships, shared finances, changing last names, who raises the children, ceremonies/rituals around the earring exchange, whether the government is involved, what level of priority a bonded partner should take compared to careers and hobbies and friendships, etc.!
You're allowed to write bonding like it's marriage but with earrings, but you don't have to. And I think it would be really fun and interesting and true to the anti-colonialist pro-queer themes of the game if people mixed it up a little or a lot more. <3
@puzzlewagon (over)analysing the choice of heroes for Sweet Bro (Spider-Man) and Hella Jeff's (Superman/Batman) HERO MODE artwork this morning got me thinking about it too... i'm choosing to interpret Superman/Batman's dual presence via the logic of Hussie's "Superman is Trickster Batman" gag; maybe Superman is the Bard of Breath who destroys with the vast power of Breath, whereas Batman is the darksided Bard of Breath who destroys Breath itself?
Spider-Man as Page of Time is a really interesting one from a metatextual perspective. like, is he a Page because as a character he's not ALLOWED to reach his full potential - the "Parker Luck" as an excuse never to develop his character beyond the undermployed bachelor? but then what's the Time part, beyond the Time symbol just looking exactly like the classic Spidey logo
I really struggle to see Superman classed as anything other than Hope aspect, both for thematic reasons and also because of the S representing a symbol of hope for Krypton
But now this is really making me think about superheros in the context of Homestuck. Krypton is the noble gas associated with Dirk’s planet. A Noble becoming a Hero after crashlanding on earth…
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Okay fine. The Homestuck pilot was pretty good. The phone thing is a little awkward and the John vs Dad strife was a little dramatic but it was overall pleasantly surprising. They even tried explaining the sylladexes. I do like them starting the first scene with Wayward Vagabond, I do think it gives some needed structure to the first few sections.
