Hi Boxley! Perfect timing. I've been wanting to make a post like this!
Let's do a quick review on why I am predisposed to believe Rina over Glip. Let's look at what Glip has done over the past, well, decade. Shall we?
Content warnings: Abuse, CSA, Zoophilia, Cults
1. Glip ran a pokemon RP group open to all ages and exposed minors to porn through the use of a bait and switch
To the unaware, Glitchedpuppet ran a deviantart role play group based on the pokemon mystery dungeon series back in 2011-2013. It was open to all skill levels of artists, and in turn had a lot of 13-16 year olds join. It started with a normal, dramatic story of Glips about two main characters (One of which is a self insert for GlitchedPuppet) in a life and death situation against a gang leader weavile.
Hm. Thatâs strange. Why would the rest of the story be on tumblr? And right at the end?
Oh. Thatâs why. The rest of the story was porn [NSFW LINK]. Gee. Why didnât Glip say the rest of the story was +18. Weird they didn't put a NSFW warning. I wonder if there's a reason for that?
Oh. Huh. Glip has an explicit fetish for showing kids on the cusp of their sexual âwhateverâ learning about it âbefore theyâre supposed toâ. Well. Uh. As a participant in PMD-E back when I was 14, I can say that Glip was one of the first people to expose me to pornography. Just because I wanted to read the rest of a story that before that point, had no porn in it and had no warning that porn would be in it.
It wouldnât be the first time Glip would insert porn into PMD-E, there would be porn of PK (Glips self insert) and Rhodes, a sneasel character that was a child. [NSFW Art of PK/Rhodes]
Oh, and who could forget the classic story where Merlot the Lugia forced Shroomsworth the Breloom into a maid outfit and raped him? [NSFW Link to Comic]
Oh, and what about the straight up fucking ball gag and choke chain/leash combo that was offered as an accessory item to every participant in the group during a certain period.
One last one, how about the story where PK (again, Glips self insert) had a marriage arc with a persian named after Glips IRL late pet cat Twigs. And donât you worry, Glip did indeed draw porn of their self insert having sex with a character based on their pet cat [NSFW]
Well. These are just the notable examples of pornographic content being included by Glip in their deviantart based pokemon inspired all ages role play group. But Iâm sure all of these and the others that arenât notable enough to mention are just one offs, and are so long ago and canât be used to judge Glips character today, right?
....I'm sensing a pattern here. Oh well, letâs just move on. Iâm sure itâs nothing.
2. When a minor came forward about Glips than husband Marl being sexually inappropriate with them and being a zoo, Glip used their platform to publicly slander this minor.
This minor originally came forward in 2014, and then again in 2015. This minor is named Lain. Glip also refers to her as Spaggle. Lain didnât have logs, but she did have a vivid recollection of what happened. At first her post didnât get traction, but when it didâŠ
Glips story became âthis is a minor who wants to entrap adults with a child porn chargeâ.
Which. First off, can we just acknowledge how fundamentally stupid that claim is.
Glip eventually did post [copy + pasted, completely unverifiable] logs of Lain âsaying that she wants to entrap adultsâ. Well. Looking through the logs, I see lain being brazenly sexual.
ButâŠnothing about her age or wanting to âwant to get someone arrested for child pornâ, in fact Glip claims themselves that they had no idea about Lains age. As Glip is a moderator of this NSFW space it is Glips job to ensure that the participants are of age. You canât do none of the leg work here and say the kid lied when they donât mention their age. Thatâs what kids do! Itâs your job to make sure theyâre not successful!
So uh, huh. It seems Glips proof that Lain was a minor who was interested in entrapment adults in a CP charge just shows that Lain is a kid who knows way more than they should and Glip does no background checking to ensure the people in their NSFW spaces are of age. Cool.
Oh! Glip does have an anonymous testimonial of someone claiming Lain does this mentioned in these logs. They even post about this testimonial again in 2018.
âThis fucking parasiteâ. Cute.
So. I mean, Iâm not going to get into this anonymous testimonial, because itâs outside the scope of this post.
But. Itâs important to note. Children who are sexually abused by adults tend to act extremely sexually themselves, and tend to become the victims of multiple offenders. Which fits Lains behavior at this age to a tee and that. Maybe. Idk. The âchild mastermind and adult victimsâ isnât something that happens often enough for it to be your first assumption.
3. How about the time a second minor had their chat logs leaked between her and Marl from 2012, and Marls behavior lined up with Lains original accusation and Glip, again, used their platform to publicly slander and harass the minor.
This second minor goes by the name BigFluff. Fluff didnât come forward on their own, Lain leaked the logs Fluff shared with Lain in private. I donât need to convince you that these chat lots are fucking bad.
(I cannot stress enough these chat logs are bad. Please read at your own risk. CW: Zoophilia, pedophilia, CSA)
These chat logs were leaked in April 5th 2018 (So Glip was still slandering Lain as a liar after this, so thatâs nice.)
Marl himself, through one of Glips Floraverse moderators Gapow, confirmed them to be real.
Marls initial reaction was âI know who this is. Iâm sorry. What do you want.â âŠ.and when the person showing the logs didnât want anything (Unwilling to take a bribe?), then the logs are suddenly fake. Nice takesbackees there Marl.
Despite Marl himself confirming theyâre real, Glip in a patreon post after the fact claimed to have evidence theyâre fake.
Theyâre talking about Lain here, even though the chat logs donât involve Lain. Lain did post them. Fluff however, did confirm they were from her. So uh. Whereâs that evidence Glip? Donât fucking tell me your evidence is a different kid being sexually explicit in your managed nsfw space because you donât do background checks and an anonymous dude said she was bad news.
Regardless of BigFluff being forced to come forward by having her logs leaked, Glip was just as hostile to her.
There were other people popping up claiming Marl was a zoo. But it doesnât matter. Glip knew from the start Marl was a zoophile. Regardless, after Bigfluffs logs got leaked. Marl, Glip, and Glips other partner now wife Eevee sold their home and all legally changed their names. Glip and Marl also, at this time, got a divorce.
In the divorce announcement a document was also posted from Marl. Marl admits to being a zoophile in this document, which inherently collaborates Lains initial claim in 2014 as she was one of the first to say he is a zoophile publicly. Marl claims in this document that he never told Glip, but as we will see later this is a lie. He also claims the logs are edited.
Despite this claim, and how its been repeated time and time again- Glip, Eevee, Marl, none of them ever were able to produce the âauthenticâ logs between BigFluff and Marl. How could they claim the chat logs were edited without originals? Why did they not show us the originals? Where are they Glip.
Also keep in mind, this document was posted in July 2018. So, those screenshots above of Glip calling Fluff/Lain âfucking collaboratorsâ or lain a âfucking parasiteâ happened after this. Glip was still viciously attacking these two young people after Marl halfly admitted to being a predator who was also a zoophile.
4. 2 years later, Glip finally admits Fluff and Lain where right the whole time - and that they knew that Marl was a zoophile the entire time.
In this very lengthy document, but the most important sticking point to me is when Glip recounts how Marl pressured them into having sexual intercourse with a dog - while no date is given to the story, it is implied to have occurred earlier on in Marls relationship with Glip, so I date it before 2014.
Which, do not get me wrong. Glip is a victim of Marl here. What he did to them is fucked up beyond belief.
âŠ.but it also means that when Lain spoke up in 2014, when Fluff had their logs leaked in 2018, when other people spoke up through the years of Marl being a creep.
Glip knew Marl was a zoophile and when they saw kids coming forward publicly and saying âMarl is a zoophileâ, Glip decided to use their platform to publicly shame and slander these kids time and time again. Lains original post in 2014 was left unrecognized, and Glip started this in 2015.
That means for 5 years. Five. Fucking. Years. Glip went on and on attacking these children. Knowing that they were telling the truth. The. Entire. Fucking. Time.
You want to know why Glips âevidenceâ of Lain âadmitting to wanting to entrap adults in a CP chargeâ didn't show that at all in the slightest? Or why they never posted the âauthenticâ BigFluff and Marl Logs they heavily implied existed on multiple occasions?
Because Glip was lying. They lied from the start. They lied at the expense of the children (and other victims) Marl had hurt. They continued to lie for 2 years after they had even divorced Marl.
âBut you just said Glip is a victim of Marl too, isnât it possible they just believed him?â
You mean to tell me that Glip believed Marl so much, that...
A child coming forward about Marl being a zoo before anyone else did publicly
Other claims about Marls zoophila popping up,
The BigFluff logs which laid out Marls interest in graphic detail while collaborating Lains initial claim that was also initially confirmed by Marl himself
Marl fucking pressuring Glip into engaging in zoophilia themselves before ANY of this,
That not only did Glip not consider that any of these otherwise unrelated people telling the same story might be onto something but Glip was SO convinced that they where all lying that Glip themselves decided to lie, pushing the claim that Fluffâs logs were edited with no hint of the âauthenticâ copies and logs of Lain âentrappingâ adults that show nothing of the sort? Fuck outta here.
If Glip genuinely believed Marl, why did they look the other way when Marl admitted to the BigFluff logs being real? If Glip genuinely believed Marl, why did they decide to lie to make Lains story look inauthentic?
Glip actually made a thread in 2019 that somewhat covers this.
DOZENS of people have IRC logs that show Lain being a dirty liar. But Glip wonât post them. Nah. They âdonât careâ. But you can have logs of Lain being horny in Glips horny chat because Glip doesnât do background checks to ensure the people in their horny chat are of age.
Oh right! Fluff accused Glip of exposing themselves to Fluff when Fluff was a minor!
Letâs put a pin in this. It's a surprise tool that will help us later.
And Glip ends this thread explaining why they believed Marl. Yeah. Ok. Sure. Damn. That sucks that my ex husband tried to convince you to fuck a dog on camera when you where under age. I can't wholly believe you though, even though I know very much for a fact Marl is a zoophile.
5. Moving on on why Glip does not deserve the benefit of the doubt, Glips way of running communities is inherently harmful to people.
Before making this post, I went around and asked others who have recently departed from the Floraverse server to provide some testimonials. (See Boxley? I'm not lazy ;) )
Anon 1 talks about how Glips use of combining NSFW material and leaving it out there for kids / using the SFW material to attract kids started their downward spiral
(As an aside, I relate to anon 1s story heavily )
Anon 2 talks about their paranoia an extreme fear due to the scenes in Floraverse. Second guessing every action they take.
Anon 3 talks about how Floraverse made their anorexia worse and being screamed at publicly via a scene.
I'm sure you can relate to anon 3, right Boxley?
These screen shots where obtained because the Floraverse server is public. Scenes are public. Boxleys scene was not the first scene to be like this and will not be the last. There is a second channel to watch scenes like Boxley's here and commentate on them live.
(Also. Dude. Come on. I don't even know you, and I know you deserve better then this.)
The 3 anons I got testimony from (And more that did not decide to share), Lain, Fluff, who knows how many kids that where exposed to Glips porn 'before their supposed to' as fetish fuel, Rina, Even myself.
How many people does Glip need to hurt in such a psychologically torturous way before they lose the benefit of the doubt, Boxley? I am deliberately leaving out other stories of people Glip has hurt because of how long this fucking post is. When is enough enough?
But fine. On to the topic we're actually here for, Rina. Rina's zine accuses Glip of the following.
Glip and Rina met when Rina was 12. Glip posted their nudes on their private twitter, knowing Rina who was 14 following the account. (Which makes Rina the second minor Glip exposed themselves too next to Fluff).
Glip pressured Rina into moving in with them when Rina was 19, with 2 people from the Flora server showing up to Rinas house to help. Rina being 19 is not independent, and based on the first accusation, has a strong here for saying Glip groomed them. This situation is EXTREMELY dangerous for Rina. Like I cannot stress this enough. This really seems like text book attempted human trafficking, and Glip tried to get Rina to live with them again later.
When Rina returned online, the first person to message them was W0z. W0z guilt tripped Rina over Rina's own traumatic experiences because the poor baby got punched when he tried to traffic her.
Rina asserts that Floraverse is a cult, which is notably a common claim from former members of the community.
W0z would use Rinas specific CSA story to torment them by telling Rina they like to do to others what happened to Rina.
W0z depicted Rinas CSA in a porn visual novel. Rina was depicted as a doll, unable to fight back. W0z explictly told Rina that this porn visual novel is about her. This visual novel is still on Glips porn site, and at the time of writing, still online.[NSFW]
Which, can I just say Glip. Having a story heavily based on someones childhood sexual trauma on your porn site without their consent IS REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY FUCKED UP?!
7. Glip decided to 'rehabilitate' W0z, the predator. Instead of removing the clear danger in their community. (? I thought Glip wasn't trying to be a therapist?)
8. Rina was accused of being ableist for being upset at this and Glips inner circle being close to W0z.
I don't care if Rina is actually a really terrible person, nothing anyone says on her character matters in this instance. Because the facts of what happened do not paint Glip in a good light.
If Rina is a terrible person, it still remains true that they are the 2nd child that Glip exposed their nude body too.
If Rina is a terrible person, it still remains true that Glip exploited her CSA for content on their porn site.
Which, for the record. Glip and friends have lied before to cover their asses. They lied about Lain. They lied about Fluff. Why should I believe there will be no lies now?
I said it before, Idk where but I know I said it once. All it takes is another child predator to get close to Glip again, and Marl 2 Electric Boogaloo is greenlit
and I feel like, I heard this story before....
