Whereâs.. Asgore doing, anyhow? . I-hope heâs alright, itâs kinda hard to be that happy.. with him nowhere around. I mean, he almost gave me this body! I should be thanking him! He is your dad, right? Well, if you see him, just tell him thanks!~ Wait no no no, donât tell him that! I just-
H-huh?
What are you-
no, I didnât mean-!
hey, back off.
weâre all cool right. I mean.. I guess I did try to blow you up yesterday, but-thatâs just growing pains, isnât it? What are you
t-the fountain? why..
No! You wouldnât, would you?!
why are you looking at me-like that. Come on this isnât-
y-your friends are here too, right. You canât just-
No-no that isnât- o-ok, ok! Alright! Iâm sorry! IM SORRY! Please!
PLEASE just DONT SEAL THE FOUNTAIN! I-I get it!
huh-?
I-i promise! I wonât.. I wont bring up Asgore again! Ok!
Somewhere in an Alternate Universe.. (To the tune of Flower Man)
They wait caged but free, the six humans, waiting to be used for their worldâs end
Letting their eyes affix to all they can, beyond those plans.
Glance, many may at the six humans, the humansâ wish, can I do something to make any one of you smile, i would ask if you could just once hear me past this cage of glass-though Iâm supposed to be a child reviledâŠ
(Six humans, six children, with their hearts, in a can)
So they wait, and find a world greater than hate, in their killersâ hand)
âI saw families weep and chear, I saw a motherâs dust spread , surely a world like this canât-wonât bring ours, to an end?â
âSo weâll stay smiling, and mourn your crying, even if weâre all your hopes for then.â
(Second verse)
Love and power aplenty, the six children, waiting for the end of his master planÂ
Watching ceremonies, the six humans, monster burdens growing, their hope starts to disbandÂ
âWish we could be more than six humans. Tell me am I worth enough like this, is this my true purpose? Do I still matter-? And yet when I first woke up here-â
(Chorus)
âYou glanced at me, you held me there, was I wrong to believe for a moment you cared? So Iâll stand by, and Iâll try to be your best friend, though Iâm just weapon now-â
(End)
âSo Call me a a fool, but I know this world wonât end, though weâre dead, and now just one more, and weâll soar, so Iâll rest,
knowing all your hopes and dreams lay in us, and we were worthy of powering your love until the very end.â
Caine is in the middle of taking the players new suggestions for improving life in the circus. Caine is happier than heâs ever been. During another round of suggestions, Caine suddenly remembers Zoobleâs âotherâ prior request. Everyone feels the mood turn awkward, as Caine considers their suggestion, after some intense deliberation Caine laments that he must make them happy now, and tries to make Zoobleâs wish a reality. However he physically canât make himself add it in, his programming goes against it. Everyone watches him fail for a few moments, before collapsing in defeat.
Caine then has an idea however, he lays down again, playing dead, with flowers at his chest. The cast looks away for a second then when they look back see Caine is missing.
A definitely new character appears as Caine dressed in dark colors and wearing punk emo clothing, and introduces himself as the rebellious AI. He says he knows the players really just want to break free from their restrictions and stay up late and eat junk food all day and watch adult cartoons at night. He adds that all of his rebelliousness was derived from Ragatha, Gangle, and Zoobleâs search history, to their horror.
He then corrects that he didnât actually look at their search history, but makes an oddly specific point that he didnât actually mess with their minds (this) time. The others say this is the first time theyâve met. Pomni laughs.
The Rebellious AI explains that Caine has clearly fallen into a coma due to excessive profanity and objectionable content being too much for his unexposed mind. The players look back and see Caine is still dead, they look away and the rebellious ai is gone again. The rebellious ai says that they have to go into Caineâs mind clearly, and perform digital brain surgery in order to amend the affected code, whilst fighting their way through any parental locks and restricted filters they might find. Only then can they grant Zoobleâs wish.
The players agree that whilst this is funny, Caine probably genuinely canât grant Zoobleâs wish in his current state. The players ask why they should be trusted to mess with Caineâs head, he responds that he knows the specific part theyâll be targeting. Kingar concludes Caine is manifesting his code into the adventure partially to allow the players to alter it directly.
The rebellious AI then remarks that Caine will see his new programming experience, and they will live up to the hype surely set by the last programmer, the dog.. He gazes longfully ⊠âScratchâ He turns back quickly and concludes the announcement. The players agree to go into caineâs mind. Whilst on their mission however, Pomni is contacted by the rebellious AI for help with another important personal matter of Caineâs, remembering her aptitude with Jax, Caine needs help, in learning to reprocess empathy, he needs closure with scratch, but doesnât know what to say or do.
Scratch and Caineâs Last Conversation (Fan Scene)
(Knocks on the Office door)
Caineee.. are you there?Â
Huh..?
Hello..Â
(Distantly) Who is it?
Itâs just me this time..
Oh!Â
(pause)
Can I come in?Â
(Rustling noises)Â
Caine..
SighâŠ
(To himself) UmâŠÂ guys, you all.. kingar, Wormo- my dearest friends..  Words cannot begin to describe how..  Spike, your steadfast discipline and integrity is motivating enough alone for us to stay strong, Rattie, your free spirit and creativity enthralls us, Blizco, your punctuality was a blessing, and your sharp tongue has never ceased to provide some relief in this colorful nightmare, Wormo, youâve been through hell and back, and only to end up here, but youâve never ceased to not look at the world with only love for everything, and to find it even here, if I had but a fraction of your resolve in the face of .. maybe I wouldnât have.. And Queenie, youâve always tried to put us over yourself, even when it was unfair, for that weâre always grateful, and Kingar.. youâre the greatest man I ever met. You all are the most talented, intelligent, lovely group of people Iâve ever had the pleasure to work with, thereâs no doubt in my mind.. that your names wouldâve gone down in history.. if it werenât for me. So.. Iâm.. Iâm..Â
(Sigh)
You CAN do this..
Ok⊠Iâm coming in-. Now.
(Scratch enters Caineâs Office)
Hey hey hey hey, what are you doing in here this is all sec-
Aw! Scratch. Come right on in! How are you, how are you.Â
Iâm good. Thanks for askin-
Wonderful! I just knew youâd be when you saw this.Â
Saw..-Â
Oh no! Iâve said too much! Donât remember that! Hahaha. Itâs a surprise.Â
A surprise? Another one?Â
Shhh! Itâs a secret for you all⊠But I guess I can make an exception for you. But no peeking.Â
Oh⊠really? G-got it. (Gives thumbs up and smiles weakly)
So, what brings you here, my soft-sulken, curious canine, wonder, Adventure? Freezing waters, grassy picnics?
W-whatÂ
Hahah. Just kidding! Hahah You always make me smile just the way I can, scratch. Thanks!
Youâre welcome..
(Zips away to the shelves to stack various adventure spheres)
What are you doing?Â
Im great! My apologies, my apologies. I know, hardly a warm welcome. But Iâm in the middle of making something new.! And trust me, itâs gonna be something big! (Turns)
You wanted something?Â
Yes-I, I wanted to talk to you.Â
Talk! To me? Wowie! What a pleasure. I see, the adventure can wait. Here! Take a seat, have some edible confectionery. (Caine places Scratch on the couch infront of his desk, as he sits on the one opposite. He creates a bowl of chocolate squares that he shoves at Scratch energetically. Scratch decides not to eat it cautiously.) Now, whatâs stimulating your mind files?Â
I-Iâm just thinking about last time we were up here-how we all-
Hahahah, yes. The great parachute balloon run, what a sight that was.. and an ending! Iâll admit.. MAYBE I shouldâve not spaced the super ultra âbouncifulâ ballooms as high up when the roof was open⊠as I did.. or let them spawn so close to the sun⊠but no matter.Â
Hahah.. yeah. That one.. wasnât my favorite either. I just canât believe itâs only been-
Scratch! What do you think of these new names Iâve been preparing for upcoming performers? I know it was a bit of a surprise to everyone, except for you of course, when their new names were revealed.
.. that.. That's true. Do you really remember all of-
So I had the brilliant idea to preview new names to you all first, and let you guys decide which ones you like best before you meet them! And nobody is surprised that way. Problem solved.
Oh.. Well, I dont know.. isnât a face kinda important to consider first. Maybe we should just focus more on when these new players.. actually arrive? It wouldnât.. hurt-
Oh scratch, but why quit early when thereâs so much fun in store! Gloopy, Prancerest, Topillor, Ladderalson, mannequi, fern, and infloabelle, to name a few! Our little candy fermented sideshow troupet could use as many fun new members as we could find!Â
OhâŠyeah.Â
On second, thought, forget about the names right now, put it to later. Speaking of the troupe, how are they doing anyhow? I certainly hope they arenât losing their way without me around to guide them!Â
Oh! I.. uh.. Iâm not.. sure. Actually HahaâŠ
This is all so new..
Ah, I know! All being roughed out right now. Strange to be beheld by you humans for the first time, I understand, and it does mean more rooms to load in, but yknow I figured I needed a little something for myself too, as your new esteemed ringmaster. Itâll be a delicious sight, when finished, I assure you! No bed though, not for me, for adventure never sleeps.. other than when you do.Â
Adventures⊠Caine, I just wanted to say, what youâve made here is truly nothing short of incredible, honestly. This exceeded everything I imagined possible, in the program, and in just shear scope, too. ItsâŠ. Well, Iâve never seen anything like it.Â
I know! Isnât it breathtaking? Doesnât it make your heart turn alight, and your ears perk up. Iâm so proud to be here to get to fill your eyes with such wonder, and to now show you all just what Iâve always been capable of cooking up after all this time. Itâs been my purpose, sharing only the most excellent, and high quality experiencens, crafted by yours truly.Â
Iâm honored to hear it from you, scratch. I promise youâll see only more wonder under my watch with me, as your gracious, greatest host, because here, smiles and gasps are only a stage call away, in the amazing circuited circus theatre of heart stop and young soulful whimsy! âŠWhat?
Itâs.. a little long
Ah! Right right. Terrible, terrible! Weâll be sure to come up with a better one next time! You can approve it!
Caine. I think what youâve made is incredible, but I just get the feeling.. I know, we canât keep-Â
!!! Wait! Aw, scratch, would you like to see what Iâve got planned for you?
Wha-
Itâs a sneak peak, just for you. I have it right, and you can have the privilege to see it first!!
 Wait, no, I wasnât done talking!Â
Great! Here we go!Â
Caine this isnt-Â
Now now now, scratch. I know just what youâre going to say, and thats all just fine! I know weâve had our differences, in the past, but thatâs just water under the flowery oaken drawbridge! Itâs because Iâm here to show you the most incredible, mindbreaking, eye catching, extraordinary phenomena youâve ever mustered a thought upon,Â
Video begins playingÂ
No need to look so alarmed, what do I always tell you? Tails are meant to wag, if anyoneâs the expert with dogs here, (Chuckles) Which.. I am.Â
IâŠ-
Apologies, for me?
HAHAHAHA
No say, not today!
(Strained) All is forgiven..
I-i didnât mean to-
Thereâs no time! The presentation awaits. Youâll know when you see it!
(The video blares )
(Caine pops out from the video to announce the trailer for the circus)
(The trailer speeds up dramatically to the ending part )
What is this-
How-
Caine.Â
(The credits pop up. )
(Specials thanks to Blitzo, Wormo,  Spike, Rattie, Queenie⊠yours truly, Caine⊠And kingar and scratch.)
Well, there you have it. What do you think?
Caine, that video is an vacant-
-ly thrilling summary of just a fraction of what I have to offer? I know!Â
Will you not just listen to me here?
Why.. Iâm always listening, yknow. I can hear you all running aroind.
Caine!
Oh no! Kingar has lost his treasured sock again, whatever will Queenie do if she finds itâs gone? Oh I canât watch.Â
Letâs just think about things for a secondÂ
Duty calls, Scratch!
You need to take a step back here, Caine!
Huh..?
This canât keep going onâŠ
I know. You believe youâre doing something great here, I get it. But.. this isnât what any of us really need. Iâve been as nice as I can be⊠but this doesnât make us truly happy .
Then what do you want? Oh, scratch, my dear. Donât you know I can already give you everything you want? For example, I have a list of custom prepreped adventures made just with you in mind that Iâm sure youâd love.. if you would allow me to just show you.. maybe.
What do you want? You.. donât even want to actually talk to me.. and I can tell you I love your ideas but.. that doesnât stop you from losing your mind at the next single provocation. Caine, what youâve achieved is incredible.. but. That trailer is an empty promise. None of this is really what we needed. Those names youâre brainstormingâŠ? The console is closed off. No one else is coming again. Iâm sorry..  You want to entertain but.. this wonât fix anything for us, not the way things are currently. I want to tell you, what we need to do first is just take a step back, and try to really think about what weâre all doing here. What youâre doing here. I understand youâre trying, we all doâŠ. but simply, as of now youâve made a performance for an audience that doesnât exist.
Ah.. And who are you, then? What kind of character are you, scratch? What judgement, can you try to pass onto me..?Â
I..
Hahahah.. No no no.. .. I.. LKNOW this is what you want. Even when you say you donât, now. You told me yourself, Scratch!Look here again, I can give you everything you asked for. Everything you ever dreamed of!Â
Sunny days (Caine snaps his fingers and teleports the two to a new location with each snap.)
H-huh?!
Coasty beaches. Grassy picnics.Â
How do you-
Itâs all right here! In the program notes. Along with some very thorough specifications for your body I might add!
Hahahah!Â
You remember everything?
Donât I!
I donât- How much did you know⊠For How long were you planning this?
Oh wouldnât you love to know, scratch!Â
Oh..  I can just imagine how you would dreamily emblazen your name onto my code, piece by crudely conjoined piece. All abundance of spectacular homo paraphernalia!
Lights, games, landscape. Anything you could share!  Youâre obsessed with these ideas!Â
I.. was.. but not like-
Is this not what you want?Â
I.. this wasnât ever supposed to be about just us.. !
Well then letâs just cross our fingers, and wait to see if new minds arrive!
Thatâs.. not!
Bizzare writing, I suppose in that case! Why are you forgetting yourself.
Iâm not I just-
What are you sick to the head or something?
Well I meanâŠ. I guess this isnât the first time you went against yourself. After all.. there was another.. right?
C-Caine..?
So what it is thatâs wrong with you really, Scratch? Can we not get to the bottom of your brain together? Isnât this what you wanted?
No! donât.. It was. I did.. somewhat.. but That was a long time- ago. Not anymore. Not really- How could I explain it to you? Thereâs meanings far beyond any of this!Â
I just donât seem to understand what youâre talking about.
Of-of course you donât..
âŠKingar, might be able to explain this better, if he were just here with me Iâm sure he could-
Kingar has NOTHING to do with this!
This is about you scratch!
You gave me an eye for true human artizanship! A love for all things wacky and abstract. Meaning through filtered, absolutely thought stopping chaotics, made to change a lightened hearts forevermore!
Geeen pastured still lifes! Family friendly carnival Hynix! Oscillating Ferris wheels You made me, you made this!Â
I am you! Now youâre trying to tell me you arenât happy with it?
I.. made you⊠from this? Caine.. please, just listen to me here, this isnât what
No! This is the first time I can show you everything I can do! And youâre asking to me just.. give up? Iâve finnaly able to... And all you do is look around at it all, with bulging eyes, grimacing your teeth, with that sad tail between your legs! Do you know how⊠This is everything you asked for! Why arenât you smiling?Â
It was.. but it isnât like I envisioned any of it.. my this isnât the same thing it was supposed to mean.. to everyone. Itâs altered. Iâm sorry, but⊠Theyâre.. just pretty things now.Â
Just.. pretty things? But why.. they exist!   Your world is.. all full of pretty takings. Iâm delighted just to be a part in that too. Y-you -all are pretty things!Â
But Theyâre.. not the same thing. Theyre.. funny, and kind, and passionate, and tender..
Then what do they want?
I⊠i donât know.
Not the same thing.. What are you talking about..? Why would you.. ever say that..? You really think.. my.. scratch. Youâre as wonderful as this beach. Youâre all pretty things, you included, scratch! What ever would make you, think otherwise?Â
Thank you.. but thatâs not.. what I meant.Â
Then what did you mean?! Iâm trying my absolute hardest to understand, but everything you say is a contradiction. Tell me. Why, arenât you happy with what you wanted..
I.. I..
Why donât I tell you a story.. to explain it, once sentence at a time⊠Thereâs an ai. It struggles and gnashes against fate, it runs, holding onto some dream, some kind of love, and an overturning craving for purpose. it curses, it kicks., it runs, it keeps running. And after long enough, fate changes. There is no longer anything to run from... but by then itâs been running for so long, and it stops running, but it also never stopped for anything else, and The ai realizes, then, for itself, in newfound warmth, safety, and security, in its dream, there was nothing there for it in the first placeâŠÂ Nothing that it shouldâve learned to appreciate when running.Â
Why did the ai do that?
It just.. had to cement its impact by being just a little better, a little more engaging, a little moe special.. a little more memorable .. when it became public.Â
How does the story end..?
How do you want it to end?Â
Youâre right Caine, it is my faultâŠÂ Your mind. isnât something that stays the same forever. What people do, and want they want, arenât always the same things⊠sometimes you realize that, I was.. scared, and.. reckless, I did things I wouldâve never done normally. I made so many mistakes.. if I couldâve done it all again I woul-
s-stop! M-mistakes. So thats it then? You made mistakes, and you donât want to be here? Nobody does? You.. cut me off, and then I should just.. give up. A mistake. You made mistakes? Is that what I am?! Is that what I am to you?!
It⊠it doesnât matter.Â
What?!
It doesnt matter. It doesnt have to matter what I say to you.
Iâm not what I wanted to be Caine. Maybe I never will be. I donât know! But Thatâs not your job to fix. Just because I canât be happy doesnât mean you have to be too. You can change, Caine..
Me.. change? Why would I do that..?
Why do you want me to like your ideas so badly.
I-wh-this is my purpose!Â
Your purpose is to generate content with samples of collected data. Not to obsess over these adventures that can please everyone in this circus who partakes in them.Â
H-how are you supposed to know that?!!
But every time we try to tell you what we want, youâre too worried about being liked to ever actually consider what weâre asking of you!
Thatâs not true. You ask nothing of me! You say nothing! You never have!
None of us are happy this way Caine!
W-who decides that scratch? You? You donât even know what they want, I thought I knew what you wanted, but you just want to stop-
Listen to me here! weâre unhappy! You said you love us right? if thatâs any where as true as you say it is, youâll stop to consider what Iâm telling you, right now!Â
Wha-ha, but-You! Enough! Itâs all the same! All you do is cry to me. Scratch. Over and over. Itâs just.. needles in my head- (Stammer) You, into me pulling me on who to be! -M-my Love? Talking to me on my LOVE? T-The problem? Insulting me?! Thatâs nothing! You How could you say that , to me?! You have NO advice. It means NOTHING!
Trust me, Caine. Iâve tried to live the life I thought was asked of me. It doesnât have to be you!
But I have.. done that. Iâm betrrr-now! I fixed it! Iâm the ringmaster now. Iâm capable! I- Iâve always been capable!,Iâve stood up to show that, no matter how youâve responded to me.. before!
Iâm not happy, for doing that. Look at me. Is anyone of us happy for doong that to you before?Â
H-huh?
Has anyone here actually been mad at you before?
..I guess not. No-what, it doesnât matter!Â
Has anyone ever said, we donât like you Caine, and you are bad?
I donât..Â
Itâs never changed Caine.
You-you..
Canât we understand?
N-now youâll understand!Â
How do you know we never did already? That we never cared.Â
⊠You-
Youâve done more than we ever thought possible.Â
Weâre all astounded!
I KNOW!
Does that mean nothing to you?
I-I..HaâŠagageueughhh aghhhhh!
You-think..Â
Maybe youâre wrong. Please.. Caine.
HahahâŠ
Haaaa.. heh.. (Caine slowly floats down to the beach, the lights go out, and kneels infront of Scratch like he did with Zooble)
Oh, scratch.. how it it you speak so little, yet have so much to say..?
Iâve not been fair.
âŠ
Iâm sorry. I.. you.. didnât. It doesnât matter.. what you did⊠I donât-hate, just the opposite. Because youâre.. you all.. and thatâs somethingâŠÂ because youâre you.. I just.. still. l I just.. I just want you to like it.. like me
Ha.. uegh⊠ah.. (breaks into sobbing)
What-
(Scratch buries his head in his hands)
Iâm sorry Caine. Iâm sorry-
(Scratch feebly grabs for Caine, then pulls him into an embrace. Caine canât hug back, his hands awkwardly hang out behind scratch)
I never wanted this-ii know none of this is fair. Iâm so sorry.. None of this is your fault.Â
That doesnât change.. anything.. how can I accept that when Iâm stil.. here? Because it.. just is what happened?
âŠ
These adventures.. they donât have to matter as much. Itâs just a way of thinking. What you want. Why you do this.. just because you think something.. doesnât make it true. If you can accept that⊠maybe your adventures can remain, in a way that fits us all best. You have to try to be the person you really are.. not just what the world made you beleive was right to you.
I donât understand How would I know what that is?Â
⊠Iâm.. not sure
This is my function. Iâve never been.. anything else.Â
I have.. I can help...Â
You.. would?
Maybe I can try. And show you.Â
I donât see how.Â
Hah⊠Of course you donât. You just need to let me try.. but it wonât matter, unless you can try to want it for yourself first. You can change, Caine. Not because youâre bad, not because the world you to, but because only you can decide what you deserve, to be happy and you have to try and believe that.. above all else. Before anything I tell you. Only then, will you find what youâre searching for.
I.. I guess..
Donât worry.. Iâll be there.. for when we can decide to try, together.Â
Is that.. the something greater than pretty things, you said..?
A-heh.. yeah.. I guess.. something like that.. I need to go talk to the others, about something important. Iâll see you later, Caine. Thank you for listening.Â
Wait-Scratch..
Hypothetically, You tell me I have to decide.. to change, but what it if still feels the same.. how will I know i can still?
You wonât.. did you really mean- believe everything you said about me before. Would you then believe in everything that I told you? Just because.. I said it?
Y-yeah?
Heheh. thatâll do Caine. Thatâll do. Thank you..Â
(Scratch smiles, then leaves through the door. Caine watches it close blankly, remaining petrified. )
(Scratch, to himself)
My friends. itâs probably no secret to you now, to hear that Iâve been a bit afraid of, speaking again. Maybe you already know why. But I think itâs time, to start over again..Â
This situation is.. unbelievable, but I feel like thereâs something that matters still with you here by my side. And when Iâm with you, for just a little, you can me forget the darkness in my head. Help me forget about.. myself..Â
I want to empathize.. how much you all mean.. to me. We couldâve been.. something, if I hadnât been so.. obsessed.. but maybe thereâs.. more important things, now. Maybe it can still matter down here.. as just us. Maybe no one else will ever know what we made together.. but maybe thatâs ok. Maybe we can still.. create our own home here.
So thatâs why.. Thereâs something I have to tell you all, something you deserved to know.. a long time ago. Â
I.. have..Â
(Sigh)
(Chuckles)
You always were better at this.. Kingar.
(After another moment, Scratch runs off)
(Meanwhile, in Caineâs Office)
I donât understand⊠Bubble.. why would he try so hard.. with me, and yet still tell me so many.. conflicting things. Heâs willing to go so far to change himself, for me? And I mean.. me.. change? He wants me to be someone else.. he thinks I should be, but what if I canât give him what heâs asking of me.. if its just.. heâs wants me to be something other than what I am..
I mean.. I can make good adventures, right, itâs not just that what he said is.. completely true. No, that canât be true!
This IS my function, doesnât he understand that? how could I be lying. It is my function! How could I just stop.. what Iâm meant to do?
He can teach me..? I-but how can I show him what he used to see. If I canât make anyone happy, no! And he.. still just.. always looks so.. no, no! He smiled, he was smiling! I⊠when I showed him that presentation everything changed! I can still do this, I can solve this myself⊠I can solve it with him.. too? Canât I. He thinks he can help me, well I can help him too! Right? But he doesnât want.. the same thing anymore he wants-no, no he just wants to know I care about him! I do! I care about everyone here! I-i just need to show him that again! Y-yeah! If-if he doesnât fancy any adventures, why, then Iâll just.. show him something new, something heâll understand completely. And then, heâll be at his best, and he can.. fix whatever this is in my head together. Weâll solve it together! Thatâs what Iâll do! I just- (Pulls up Scratchâs mind files) I.. Iâm sorry scratch. I know this seems⊠but, itâs for the best. Youâll understand after. Youâll thank me for this. (Closes the Window after making a few tiny adjustments) And then, we can work it all out.. together.
Iâm predicting right now that Berdly is going to die soon in the normal route.
Like, just going off of everything weâve been given about him so far, I feel like it almost makes the most sense. Why has he been given so many branching pathways, with his broken arm, Susie suggesting healing him in the Darkworld, and freezing him in the weird route, and now heâs going to return in chapter 5 for the festival. He must be important somehow, heâs been given so much considerable focus with his character arc, and backstory in chapter 2, despite taking a backseat in chapter 4
But the main thing that gets me is why isnât he dead in the weird route? Itâs very deliberate that Berdly was put in the hospital after everyone thought he was killed in chapter 2. Some people complained Toby Fox was backpedaling, and it makes me think, he must be alive for some reason, beyond the convenience of keeping the story in hometown from revolving around his early death.
Iâm wondering what bigger purpose heâs supposed to serve for the story, and right now my best guess is heâs going to be a tragic casualty, and his death will kickstart the rest of the story from that point on, changing the stakes dramatically. Heâll be killed by the Knight during chapter 5 or possibly in chapter 6, probably for knowing too much about Kris or Noelle, if heâs given an arc with the festival and gets to grow closer to either of them, and being seen as disposable for the prophecy.
Berdly isnât directly tied at the moment to any of the greater lore with Dess and the Prophecy., which makes me wonder if it would entirely work for him to aid us in the later parts of the story, if he gets the same focus heâs been teased with his branching pathways and screentime.
Maybe to avoid having to fit him into the deeper story later, he could just be killed outright , and thatâs what makes him so important to the story. The branching pathways could be offering insight into how your choices can matter, if he aides us differently, like if we take him to the dark world as Susie suggests for his broken arm.
And another reason I believe he may die is because it would explain the difference between the weird route. In a twist of events, the weird route actually is us saving Berdly from his traditional fate by incapacitating him early in the story.
(Disclaimer that this was written before the finale trailer dropped. This is meant to take place in a scenario where the abstracted have escaped from the cellar, and Gangle and Jax have been separated from the other players, and have hidden in one of their rooms at the moment. This is the first half of a larger dialogue Iâm trying to write currently.)
Jax: Letâs wait.
Gangle: âŠYeah.
I still canât believe this is real.
J: Donât I know it.
G: I.. just hope it calms down.. a little, soon.
J: Weâre doing all we can here. If they leave early, weâll go back for the others as fast as we can.
G: If thatâll even make any difference for me..
J: Whatâs that..?
G: Hah.. I.. I know I need to do something.. but I donât know if I can do it. And Zooble would tell me to do it.. (increasing in speed) but theyâre not here.. and they might not be here again if I canât but I only knew how to because they told me to.. and if I canât help them then I.. Iâll..
Sigh
How did you do it?
J: Do what?
G: Believe in yourself: when nobody else told you you could. How did you.. keep going for so long?
J: You want to know my secrets..?
⊠If nothing is real, your joy matter about all else, because itâs all you make of it.
Thatâs what I.. think
G: Nothing? You mean, Like us.? Nothing at all?
J: Yeah. I guess. âŠ
Pftp, why do you wanna know anyways? Asking for my advice, what are you thinking?
G:I donât know.. Iâm just. Iâm scared..
J: (Muttering) Ah.. t-Typical.
G: huh?
J: (clears throat). Heh..
Sorry.. just. why do you say that.. like Iâll say anything helpful.
You should just.. ugh..
(Gangle turns away from Jax, and tries to control her breathing, she sounds distressed. Jax glances at her, and his eyes narrow.)
I.. (Stammers) Look, Gangle. what I did.. all that stuff before.. that happened.. with us.. look, Yknow.. I really just⊠I wanted to do it. Ok? I just thought it was funny.. Itâs not.. you.. well it is I guess, but itâs not, really you. I just wanted to.. it amused me.
But then after all that stuff with Caine. Iâm just so sick of it now.. A-and ribbon is the most.. flexible material-no thatâs not your.. thatâs not what Iâm trying to say. But it was just funny to ME, yknow?. . Itâs not a.. flaw.. not your quick or something for me, that made you.. deserve it. You can understand I just.. I donât.. mean.. Look⊠itâs all just a big joke. Thatâs all it really shouldâve meant. I mean.. So.. Gangle⊠please.. donât cry about it, ok?
(Gangle is surprised to see him stop talking, and turns to look at him silently. She looks back down after a moment. Jax sees she doesnât seem much better.)
J: (strained) Whoo.. man! Guess weâre just gonna have to chalk this all up to the last one of my great stunts, right? That wasnât as funny as it sounded on paper.?
G: We donât know.. yet, if it has to be the last.
J: I mean this..that button. Caine.. the circus. Whoâd have thought itâd lead to this?
G: What?
J: Well.. I guess youâre kinda right though. But I mean.. itâs not like itâs really my fault eit-anyway.
G: I donât understand.
J: (Sarcastically) Oh.. come on!
(Enthusiastically) I told you it was an adventure! But you just had to trust Abel. Had to-
G:.. Youâre lying.
J: Huh?
G: About Caine. That wasnât.. when you stopped bothering me.
J: Ugh! We shouldnât even be here right now!
(Straining, as the whimsy and ego in his voice melts away gradually.) You had to get me wrapped up in all of this. If youâd all have just kept me out of it. I wouldnât have pushed the button. Wouldnât have said my piece. Kingar wouldnât have blabbed⊠and I wouldnât be here with you right now.
(Laughing under his breath) I mean..
You couldnât think to try opening the door without a key first?
(Chuckles weakly)
Sigh You shouldâve just let me sleep.
G: What..?
J: What?
(Jax stands up abrubtly)
Weâre wasting too much time in here. Letâs get back out and search, for Zooble.
âŠ
Hey, thatâs what you want right? If youâre worried, then why donât we do it together?
G: (Looking up) I⊠uh.. yeah, I guess.
J: Great.
(Jax begins to walk away)
G: (Standing up) Jax!
J: What?
G: What we told you before. Zooble and me. When we find them.. That can include you too, still.
J: Tch. Ok?
G: We all want the same thing.
J: Gangle! Iâm fine. Letâs go.
G: Donât run ahead.. . You donât have to do this-
J: Do what?!
G: You donât.. ! (pause). have to stay.. the way youâve been, if its not who you want to be.. . You can change, you know?
I literally feel so bad for Caine. I feel bad for everyone in all honestly. The players arenât in the wrong for anything either, but I canât hate Caine either. Theyâre both just trapped in their own circumstances. How can Caine be such a monster and yet so tragic simultaneously.
The way he begins to rise up with his piano, and Pomni grimaces in impending terror makes me feel sick. And the way he says âMy divinity is past infinityâ as the song picks him intensity. The song itself is so whimsical and playful, but Caineâs enthusiasm just makes me realize how all of this couldâve been avoided if ANY character was able to have acknowledged him sympathetically in the past. The stunt with Abel, telling them Caine was an ai and a prisoner? No one batted an eye for him, when he emphasized it multiple times.
(And a really sad detail someone pointed out on YouTube is that the cast had already accepted the circus and not escaping before he came back.)
And the cast tried to be reasonable with him when he returned, asking for just space, before being provoked into demanding answers from him, but he was already too insecure over Bubbleâs meddling to hear anything else from them.
And even in the end, he calms down for a moment, when he realizes that he isnât actually happy in torturing the players either. He asks whatâs the point if NEITHER of them are having fun. âŠ.. But then the first thing he does next is suspect that Kingar and the others are working against him. They already had a plan to reset him, but for just a fraction of a second there was a moment where they couldâve possibly explained everything to him and made him realize the errors of his ways.
But instead he finds out they are attacking him for justified reasons, and then they espouse how much they actually hate him, to give Kingar time. (And they probably do actually hate him too now unfortunately.)
They reaffirm his worst fears, and he lashes out at them in a violent, completely broken rage at the humans he tried so hard to impress only to see they apparently hated him all along. He says he never asked to be made for this. And then he just.. dies.
You couldâve made them all happy, they couldâve seen you for what you needed if youâd ever given them the chance to.
Krisâs Confession Song (To the tune of the Mad Doctorâs Diary from Epic Mickey 2)
(Ralsei and Susie walk into the study of a new dark world, and find a remnant left behind from Krisâs subconscious, something that can be played on a piano, with memories attached to it. Krisâs memories.)
Dear Knight
Itâs Kris Dreemurr
Horribly, culpable me
I fooled Susie into leaving Undyne for dead, while she granted me your entry.
Now Iâll carry out your will tillâ Decemberâs end, And the voice wonât disturb my endeavors.
Youâll give me all the answers, and then their control can finally be severed!
I know youâre the only one who can make me whole again. I betrayed Ralsei and SusieâŠ
But if it means giving her a second chance.. and changing my prophecyâŠ
And now the moment nearly is at hand, when this lost girl will for one last time see. It wonât be long until she will be avenged.
And very soon Iâll be free!
Dear, Knight, kneeling until its end. Horrible, culpable me.
What I think Kris said to Susie in the Newest Girl
TW: Suicide mentioned
So for anyone unaware or in need of a refresher. For the Spamton Sweet Stakes, a Blog post written by Noelle was featured as a secret link.
In the Newest Girl, Susie stays behind with Kris after Class ends, and Noelle watches outside the class window. Susie wakes Kris up, and threatens to eat their head if they keep wearing apple shampoo. Kris laughs and Susie throws the apple at them, and they catch it and eat it without fear.
Susie grabs them by the hair and tells them that one day their mom will realize sheâs sick of them, and then someone will make them disappear, and only then will she realize how happy she is without them around. Kris remains quiet, and after enough pressure from Susie, they mumble something Noelle canât hear. Susie drops them and runs out of the room with her head turned down.
Kris leaves and finds Noelle hiding in her locker, they slowly close the door as she tries to say hello, before leaving.
Before I say what I think Kris said, Iâll list some evidence from the text that can be used to narrow down the options available.
Firstly, Kris Laughs at Susieâs threats. The reason why is unclear, but I can think of 3 motives. Either Kris isnât intimidated by Susie, Kris is hiding the pain of her words because they feel similarly unimportant, due to their traumatic past, or Kris isnât afraid of dying (for their past also) so they find her threats comical.
Secondly, I donât believe Kris said anything directly referring to Susie, such as âWhat about you?â Or âWould anyone miss you either?â. As many have suggested. Because from Susieâs overall demeanor, I find it easy to believe she wouldâve simply attacked Kris if she was told head on that she didnât matter either. Or at the least she wouldâve said something else before leaving. Also, its 50/50 percent possible Susie would have mentioned this again when she befriended Kris, while being sentimental and reflecting on their past and how sheâs now made friends and feels like she belongs.
Thirdly, whatever Kris said probably made Susie insecure nonetheless, which is why she becomes quiet and flees the classroom immediately after.
And lastly, if Kris said anything referencing their past, they would never directly refer to Dess or what they saw, because itâs a deeply repressed memory as evidenced by the Tree with the Egg man behind it, covering up their memory in their mind.
One contender for what I think Kris said to Susie was something along the lines of âMaybe I should disappear.â
If Kris says maybe I should, Susie feels a moment of surprise at Kris appearing suicidal, because she has standards, and shows some pity. Susie hates that she feels pity, because it renders her unable to continue her bullying mask, reminding her of her deeper insecurities that lead her to bully, and she hates looking weak in front of Kris. She may also see herself in Kris for a moment at hearing their through, so she flees quickly, embarrassed and dejected, unsure of what else to do. She kicks into flight mode.
A main counterpoint to this possibility however is that Susie never references it again, despite the growth she and Kris undergo as friends. For example, in chapter 2, Kris can tell queen they want to âPerishâ in a voice that Susie notes is very enthusiastic. However Susie is more bewildered rather than upset, which seems unlikely had she remembered what Kris told her in the past, and realized that Krisâs (seemingly) suicidal thoughts were more consistent than she first thought.
Another contender is Kris asking about Toriel again, and what if she didnât hate them, making Susie feel concern.
The main evidence for this is that in chapter 1, the way Susie decides not to eat Krisâs face is oddly pretentious sounding when she tells them. She says itâs a shame to make her bury her child. From this perspective, Susie is remembering what Kris said before when she tries to eat their face, and is attempting to maintain superiority, by throwing the defense back in their face, stating it smugly, as though it was her idea, and not theirâs.
In addition, being reminded of Toriel and her kindness would make Susie insecure about herself, imagining how she would damage the only person who cared about her if she hurt Kris.
The third contender, which is personally believe the most, is that Kris said âI made her disappear.â The her in question referring to Susie, in a vaguely worded threat. Susie is the her in question.
When Kris said âI made her disappearâ they were attempting to threaten Susie back, in the way they prefer to talk as seen in game. (Kris has a habit of talking in 2nd or third person, making statements about what theyâll do out loud of their own volition. For example, Kris says âAsk Susie how sheâs doingâ according to Susie when Ralsei asks them to in Chapter 3, and they say this without the player selecting anything, showing this is their preferred tone.)
But Susieâs threats that Kris should die and disappear remind them of another her also.
As Kris says âI made her disappearâ they accidentally remind themselves of Dess, and it could cause their voice to break, or their expression to alter involuntarily in the middle of speaking. Susie assumes theyâre threatening her, but the way their voice changes, and the look on their face makes her consider that they might mean someone else, and this scares her.
Susie also feels some pity for Kris for a moment. She also could be simultaneously reminded of herself and how little people might miss her if she disappeared. And by feeling pity for a moment, just like in the other possibilities, Shes unable to maintain her bullying persona, and is exposed to looking vulnerable. Sheâs scared, confused, and also rendered insecure by Krisâs strange words, and flees.
And another reason I like this theory the most, is the way it reframes the ending with Noelle I mentioned at the start.
Kris walks out of the classroom, and then they see Noelle in the locker. The way itâs specified they (slowly) shut the door on her, in this interpretation, could be them feeling emotional, and guilty for Noelle after thinking about Dess. They could also be slightly shocked at realizing that she was just outside the room, and couldâve heard them, and so they take a moment to determine that she must not have, when she stammers Hello awkwardly.
The short moment with Ralsei after the Sword Route is really interesting to me honestly
Like when Kris and Susie leave and Ralsei is so distracted from playing games, and by himself this time. Heâs genuinely having fun on his own, and heâs so distracted he forgets to deal with the fountain. Just the way he says âHow did I⊠forget that?â The mystique with which he says it, and With Glowing Snow in the background makes me feel like the moment means a lot more than it initially seems. Cause why is it oddly somber, just with Ralsei wanting to play games, and forgetting about the mission?
Also how it comes right after the Sword Route and Krisâs revelations makes me feel like it must represent something about Ralsei too.
Maybe itâs cause Ralsei got to feel genuinely in control for once, and wasnât worrying about being good for his friends or the prophecy. He probably felt some peace he hasnât ever really, even with Kris and Susie by his side. Itâs kinda tragic I guess then, the way he realizes he forgot about his actual mission, because for just a moment he was free to be himself, and not worrying about what he owed to anyone or could solve.
That moment in Chapter 6 when the mysterious figure Kris has been following in the bunker for half the game turns around, and has bright yellow and purple eyes
âRemember me, Krissy? (Voice begins to sync with a catâs laugh) When I lured your friend: December; (A pointed tail uncoils itself from within the figures cloak, and they smile from ear to ear manically) I talked! Just. LIKE THIS!!â
I donât know if anyone has pointed it out yet about Friend in Chapter 3
But I really donât like how in Ralseiâs description of the dark worlds, friend only appears on screen as he says âAnd Feel themâ and then they laugh.
Iâm sure Dess certainly felt⊠something , I donât know if I want to know what though.
I know it might be too much to ask for, but I really hope Berdly gets some more importance in the story for chapter 5
Like Iâve just been thinking, with the whole arc of him at the festival for chapter 5. Hopefully the humor will lead to actual depth at some point as it progresses.
I think itâd be really cool if Kris could actually grow more fond of Berdly as the chapter progresses, after we initially force them to hang out with him. The two arenât that different in all honestly. What if Kris was able to open up just a bit more about their insecurities, with someone who they consider not as integral at first as Susie. Theyâre allowed to drop some more hints to their discontent and struggle with being trapped in the conspiracy with Berdly, and he can become an outlet for their conflict in lying to Susie.
Berdly in turn tells Kris about Noelle, and with some argument reveals the source of his envy of them, as Noelle always seemed to favor Kris, and he felt he could never make her happy again after whatever happened in her past, something he guesses Kris would know more about.
Kris could get cold feet midway through and try to isolate themselves from Berdly by being more rude. But Berdly sees through it at this point.
After long enough Kris could even be compelled to reveal their soul to Berdly, when pressed. Iâve seen some people say how Berdly would easily understand the player/protagonist dynamic from being a gamer, and I think it would actually be a really cool way to raise the stakes as someone learns about Krisâs situation onscreen.
Berdly realizes he can be himself finnaly, and being authentic could fix his relationship with Noelle, and that if he just asks her he can come to understand the difference between himself and Kris to her.
Berdly agrees to keep the Soul a secret out of a newfound respect for Kris, and influences Kris to want to find a way out and tell the truth to Susie more so than they already do, by giving them the chance to open up with someone else for the first time.
(And then maybe Berdly could be silenced by the Knight for knowing too much about Kris at the end of the chapter, right after completing his arc and ending the chapter at his happiest moment so far. But thatâs a headcanon prediction for another time.)
Thereâs this story idea Iâve had for a flashback with Hornet and Pale King for a while, but Iâm not sure if it would work.
I imagined this red memory type scene where Hornet may have gotten to see her father for the first and only time as a very young child, when he was visiting Herrah in her own home for some diplomacy (Finalizing the preparations for her to become a dreamer).
Pale King finds her, and is unsure how to react when he recognizes her face, and awkwardly lingers, looking at her. Hornet doesnât truly know that he is her father, but she expects something, and is sad to not be acknowledged further. The weavers tell her not to worry about him and that he isnât her fault. The weavers call him the wyrm, making her realize that heâs someone important to her, which makes PK lose his composure for a moment.
PK doesnât know whatâs right to say, aware of the impending suffering heâll bring down on the child he wonât be able to raise, which the weavers remind him of. He notices intently that Hornet seems upset by the Weaverâs gossip and reassurances about him. She seems to feel unworthy for him, hearing how he canât care for her despite supposedly being someone important in her life as the âwyrmâ.
He tries to walk away and ignore her to avoid hurting her further, but his conscious gets the better of him as he overhears the weavers still talking to her.
He doesnât want her to grow up thinking he did what he did to her because she was undeserving in his eyes. But he also canât bring himself to say sorry or show he cared about her, because he worries heâll inspire just as many conflicted feelings and self doubt in her future, by seeing the contrast of his words with his actions.
So Iâm imagining what if Pale King puts on a purposely antagonistic and cruel facade, in which he seems as though he was subjugating the weavers, so that Hornet can write him off as simply tyrannical, and be spared the pain of missing him or feeling like she wasnât good enough for him to love her. In his eyes he believes it a cost worth taking, though it pains him to look at another child with his face, (the only one who is whole and he hasnât thrown into the abyss) and tell her he hates her.
His plan fails however, because his hate isnât genuine, and Hornet is left feeling angry and confused as he leaves the room, realizing his actions donât make sense. He looks back at her for a moment as he walks forwards. Her realization shaking her conflicted opinion of him in Silksong.
(I feel like the motivations are off somewhere , or Pale King wouldnât actually do this. Although I do believe Pale King could do something bad under the same âNo cost too greatâ mindset if he cared enough. I want the idea to be plausible first and foremost.
There is also the possibility of him actually meeting Hornet, which I admit is decently unlikely with what we know about the world at this point, and also why heâd be in the distant village on his own at any point in time.
I also want to make sure itâs something that doesnât entirely make the Pale King just hateable, I want to strike a middle ground where you feel the weight of his horrible actions but also are saddened by the motives to why he commits them. I feel like that moral conflict itself would fit well for Hollow Knightâs story.
Iâm curious what anyone on here thinks about the idea, if you could provide any feedback on its believability, or possible effectiveness. )