sideblog for ur nonsense

halloween colors bc of the one did flag and its also nearly october so

[syscourse-negativity]

Syscoursers aren't worth the air they breathe. Go get a blinding hobby.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

i don't think being blinded will help anything, though? (joking)

[syscourse-negativity]

I see those tags. You better have switched to doing something actually worthwhile in the time it took me to get to this reblog, especially since you've apparently got enough braincells to see that it's a good idea.

Anyway I'll show you what being blinded will help. Forcefeeds you the one day blinding stew.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

i ended up playing video game instead of creating art but seeing this notif makes me wanna do something better with my time again XD

[syscourse-negativity]

If you want to make coloring pages you're not about to make progress on that by not trying, even if you aren't able to do the style yet. Maybe try starting.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

"ramcoa is antisemitic?" "no its not!" its an acronym. whether you call it ramcoa or oea or ritual/organized abuse or whatever shouldn't matter.

what we should do is trust people's trauma experiences, whatever label we give them.

[reallythinkitthrough-deactivate]

Either way it's a made up term and a made up condition.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

so why do you like to piss on poor people?

[reallythinkitthrough-deactivate]

Who the fuck said anything about poor people??? RAMCOA doesn't exist and neither does DID.

[catherine-clover-deactivated2026]

[sysmedsaresexist]

When we talk about weird beliefs and ideas that people hold, I think we forget to look at ourselves

What weird things do you believe that someone would call you strange for having? What are you DOING with those beliefs?

People talk about Colin Ross and his eye beams as if he's a complete whack job, but you forget that his experimental science has a very good purpose and intention

His invention, and the hypothetical science behind it, is meant to help those with disabilities and limited movement interact with things around their house

Looking at a light switch to turn it on or off, looking at the TV to change channels, turn on stereos and interact with the signals to potentially communicate, if they're currently unable to.

The idea might be crazy, but all the power to him if he can get it working.

Some of these devices now exist, using similar mechanisms, but isn't that how science and invention works? You put an idea out there, other people improve on it, change it, fix it.

He believes in chi. A lot of people do. Would you speak of them all the same way? Do you believe in karma?

I believe in multiple dimensions and that these little "jumps" that I randomly get are from "me" dying in an alternate timeline. It gives me hope and eases my anxiety that if I were to die today in a freak accident, it's not the end. It helps me leave my house, but I'm doing shit all to help people by testing my beliefs. I just call myself weird and move on. Currently, this isn't that strange of a belief, there's an incredible amount of research into this concept, even if it seems unbelievable and impossible.

Look at all the research going into various types of voice hearing and plurality and pause for a second. So far, all of this work is showing promising therapeutic techniques that are HELPING people, and the research is showing, apparently, generally positive impacts on the people experiencing such things.

And we're all here arguing about whether it's real and possible and how impossible it must be, completely ignoring the EFFECTS these things have on a larger scale. And it seems to be positive in highly tangible ways (real, documented positive improvements in voice hearing patients using techniques discussed in syscourse and plural spaces).

The more I think about it, the more I support experimental sciences that are largely harmless on a grand scale but could actually help humanity. Stop putting innocent ideas down so harshly and discrediting everyone who thinks of new, potential ideas or inventions.

We didn't have to kill Giordano Bruno for believing the earth revolved around the sun, but we did. Sometimes, things end up working. I wonder what else he had to offer.

[the-fox-collective]

Just spent fifty minutes with my wife explaining my dramatic switch from "the dms is god and endos are evil >:(" to "psychiatry has flaws and we should be believe people's understanding of their self" and she said she had noticed:

I am much less full of hatred nowadays

I am much less angry

I have a larger tolerance for stress

We communicate better, especially when we don't agree

I've stopped splitting at the slightest things

My switching is less disabling and I'm able to communicate with parts better

I've learnt more about my identity and am much more accepting of it, I'm not forcing myself to be something I'm not

I self harm far less??

Some of this is also partly due to the radical acceptance I was doing with my therapist but a lot of it was just down to... not fucking caring about what other people do with their lives

[imjustaf444keriguess]

"who the fuck said anything about poor people" still makes me giggle. like that's the best response they could have given to my reference

[imjustaf444keriguess]

"ramcoa is antisemitic?" "no its not!" its an acronym. whether you call it ramcoa or oea or ritual/organized abuse or whatever shouldn't matter.

what we should do is trust people's trauma experiences, whatever label we give them.

[reallythinkitthrough-deactivate]

Either way it's a made up term and a made up condition.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

so why do you like to piss on poor people?

[reallythinkitthrough-deactivate]

Who the fuck said anything about poor people??? RAMCOA doesn't exist and neither does DID.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

anyway, your opinion on whether things exist doesn't change reality and basic human decency. but keep pissing i guess

[imjustaf444keriguess]

"ramcoa is antisemitic?" "no its not!" its an acronym. whether you call it ramcoa or oea or ritual/organized abuse or whatever shouldn't matter.

what we should do is trust people's trauma experiences, whatever label we give them.

[reallythinkitthrough-deactivate]

Either way it's a made up term and a made up condition.

[bpdcodone]

lol DID is made up?? How about you do some research on how it works neurologically dumbass it’s been around since the 1800s and 80s fucko

[imjustaf444keriguess]

prev was pissing on the poor, but you need to be more normal too. don't tell anyone to die on my post thanks.

[bpdcodone]

?

[imjustaf444keriguess]

these tags are uncalled for and are not welcome on my post whatsoever.

[bpdcodone]

Removed, yes highly uncalled for I apologize for the splitting and intense uncalled for language used it will not happen again on your post or any post for that matter I make in the future thanks

[imjustaf444keriguess]

thank you!

[imjustaf444keriguess]

"ramcoa is antisemitic?" "no its not!" its an acronym. whether you call it ramcoa or oea or ritual/organized abuse or whatever shouldn't matter.

what we should do is trust people's trauma experiences, whatever label we give them.

[reallythinkitthrough-deactivate]

Either way it's a made up term and a made up condition.

[bpdcodone]

lol DID is made up?? How about you do some research on how it works neurologically dumbass it’s been around since the 1800s and 80s fucko

[imjustaf444keriguess]

prev was pissing on the poor, but you need to be more normal too. don't tell anyone to die on my post thanks.

[bpdcodone]

?

[imjustaf444keriguess]

these tags are uncalled for and are not welcome on my post whatsoever.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

oh so we just making more random blogs i see

[imjustaf444keriguess]

"ramcoa is antisemitic?" "no its not!" its an acronym. whether you call it ramcoa or oea or ritual/organized abuse or whatever shouldn't matter.

what we should do is trust people's trauma experiences, whatever label we give them.

[reallythinkitthrough-deactivate]

Either way it's a made up term and a made up condition.

[bpdcodone]

lol DID is made up?? How about you do some research on how it works neurologically dumbass it’s been around since the 1800s and 80s fucko

[imjustaf444keriguess]

prev was pissing on the poor, but you need to be more normal too. don't tell anyone to die on my post thanks.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

"ramcoa is antisemitic?" "no its not!" its an acronym. whether you call it ramcoa or oea or ritual/organized abuse or whatever shouldn't matter.

what we should do is trust people's trauma experiences, whatever label we give them.

[reallythinkitthrough-deactivate]

Either way it's a made up term and a made up condition.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

so why do you like to piss on poor people?

[syscourse-negativity]

Why have I been so quiet? One, I haven't been fronting. Two, I have a life outside this blog.

Do you have a life outside syscourse? If not, get one. If yes, maybe try focusing on that instead.

[nagan-t]

starting off this blog with a bang by saying that, as a survivor of trafficking and organized abuse, the idea of 'programmed systems' is inaccurate to what conditioning really is, and has a history steeped in far-right conspiracy theories.

the horrors of ritual abuse, conditioning, and organized abuse are very real, but the mysticism introduced with the trend of 'RAMCOA systems' that were, somehow, intentionally created by some shady organization, only serves to discredit survivors, who already struggle to be believed about their abuse.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

how is it "serving to discredit survivors"? cause the only reason i can think for that is you personally thinking that's too outlandish. which is a you problem, so.

[nagan-t]

the online community surrounding 'ramcoa' is full of misinformation. i have gone through the same things that these people have described, and have spent time in communities for survivors.

what you described in the tags,

i made you react in certain ways which led the system to having certain ways it with certain alters filling those roles due to intense dissociation and trauma.

is actually exactly what conditioning is and how it affects dissociative symptoms. however, much of the terminology used online, such as the use of greek letters to describe specific 'programs,' comes directly from known conspiracy theorists. point blank, i don't see how it'd be possible for an abuser to control every single aspect of a person's system, because up until recently, DID and OSDD were barely recognized medical conditions.

much of this nuance was not conveyed in my original post, but that's on me.

tl:dr: this abuse is very real, but the way it's talked about online is often inaccurate at best.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

i would love to see the sources you have for all of this, since i'm not a RAMCOA survivor nor have been in any kind of situation similar to that, so i wouldn't know their terminology or what the "programs" you're referring to are (altho i think i've heard of beta being used to describe sexual conditioning/programming? but they sound pretty general, similar to giving coded language to describe certain kinds of trauma without being directly triggering).

giving resources and evidence to your points, especially in something as intense as RAMCOA / organized abuse, is important for an outsider like me to understand your points. especially the "comes directly from known conspiracy theorists" point, since i've only heard that as disagreed with from the "gray faction", that also doesn't even believe in DID/OSDD, so i don't trust them.

[nagan-t]

sorry for the late (and very long) response.

as for the terminology used in these communities, using your example of 'beta programming' being used to describe sexual conditioning, i have not found the specific words commonly used in these communities out side of the book Chainless Slaves by Unwelcome Ozian, who is very obviously a conspiracy theorist and who also has some very... interesting ideas. for instance, this post of his claims that all DID systems in the modern day are programmed (???). the book is also full of misinformation. it's not really possible to trust anything he says.

the whole idea of controlling specific alters seems to come from the project monarch conspiracy, of which there is no official documentation, even in the declassified MK-ULTRA files. Project monarch was also popularized, if not created by Cathy O'Brien, whose claims were not credible. many people, such as Allison Miller, the author of the popular book Becoming Yourself, cite Svali, someone who claims to have been a part of the Illuminati and speaks about a 'new world order'. for a general idea of the kind of ideas she publicizes, here is a part of an interview where she says that the 'Illuminati control the media to control the public.'

additionally, Svali and Unwelcome Ozian both site psychiatrists Cornelia Wilbur, who was accused of manipulating a patient by the name of Shirley Mason, and diagnosing Mason with DID even though many professionals (and Mason herself), stated that the diagnosis was inaccurate. i do think it's worth taking this case with a grain of salt, however, since it seems to me to be a bit more complicated than what i've looked into (eg. i haven't read the book Sybil by Flora Schreiber about this case, or the book that allegedly debunks it, Sybil Exposed.)

i also want to provide my personal anecdotes after having spent quite some time in discord servers advertised as for 'programmed systems.' a lot of the way people talk about how this abuse works seems improbable. i'll use the idea of 'scripts' for example: the concept of a group of abuser using a specific media such as Alice in Wonderland to 'model the system after,' basing parts' roles on characters and somehow 'placing structures into the inner world.' there are no reliable sources that state that it's even possible to do this, and there are also no explanations on how exactly it would be done on the chance that it is possible.

for full transparency, my opinion is informed moreso by personal experience than the research i have done on conspiracy theories, which i admit is not as in-depth as it could be.

i'll restate the essence of my point, which is that the scope of RAMCOA as it is discussed online exists to an extent, but there are limits to what can actually be done to a control a person in this way.

i'd never heard of gray faction until this point, but they also seem to have some 'interesting' ideas. i'll be looking more at the site later to see if they have anything worth considering, but rest assured that i remain skeptical of anyone who asserts that DID and OSDD are not real disorders.

i sincerely apologize if this post is incoherent, i started having trouble organizing my thoughts while writing it, and am very willing to elaborate. i am also willing to review your sources and listen to what you have to say if you would like to share that with me. thank you for your time.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

sorry for the late (and very long) response.

cannot respond or read any of this at the moment, just idly checking on notifications and the syscourse tag, but it does mean that i have some reading to do, and i appreciate it! thank you for explaining all this, and i promise i'll read more later when i'm better able to focus and actually process the information here!

[nagan-t]

starting off this blog with a bang by saying that, as a survivor of trafficking and organized abuse, the idea of 'programmed systems' is inaccurate to what conditioning really is, and has a history steeped in far-right conspiracy theories.

the horrors of ritual abuse, conditioning, and organized abuse are very real, but the mysticism introduced with the trend of 'RAMCOA systems' that were, somehow, intentionally created by some shady organization, only serves to discredit survivors, who already struggle to be believed about their abuse.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

how is it "serving to discredit survivors"? cause the only reason i can think for that is you personally thinking that's too outlandish. which is a you problem, so.

[nagan-t]

the online community surrounding 'ramcoa' is full of misinformation. i have gone through the same things that these people have described, and have spent time in communities for survivors.

what you described in the tags,

i made you react in certain ways which led the system to having certain ways it with certain alters filling those roles due to intense dissociation and trauma.

is actually exactly what conditioning is and how it affects dissociative symptoms. however, much of the terminology used online, such as the use of greek letters to describe specific 'programs,' comes directly from known conspiracy theorists. point blank, i don't see how it'd be possible for an abuser to control every single aspect of a person's system, because up until recently, DID and OSDD were barely recognized medical conditions.

much of this nuance was not conveyed in my original post, but that's on me.

tl:dr: this abuse is very real, but the way it's talked about online is often inaccurate at best.

[imjustaf444keriguess]

i would love to see the sources you have for all of this, since i'm not a RAMCOA survivor nor have been in any kind of situation similar to that, so i wouldn't know their terminology or what the "programs" you're referring to are (altho i think i've heard of beta being used to describe sexual conditioning/programming? but they sound pretty general, similar to giving coded language to describe certain kinds of trauma without being directly triggering).

giving resources and evidence to your points, especially in something as intense as RAMCOA / organized abuse, is important for an outsider like me to understand your points. especially the "comes directly from known conspiracy theorists" point, since i've only heard that as disagreed with from the "gray faction", that also doesn't even believe in DID/OSDD, so i don't trust them.

[sophieinwonderland]

I find that poll incredibly limiting and presumptive.

I'm a created system and I don't support created systems.

/j

You're right! Where's the representation for the self-hating created system with internalized pluralphobia! 🤪

[anti-systemscringe]

Ableism is never the fault of the disabled.

[cambriancrew]

Traumagenic systems and CDD systems of any origin, do you view your plurality/systemhood as something similar as what endogenics and nondisordered systems experience?

Yes it's the same

Yes it's very similar though there are some distinct differences

Yes some things are similar but others are not

No it's nothing at all the same

Nuance

not a traumagenic or CDD system/see results

Voting ended onApr 28, 2025