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A Witch Hat Atelier theory for Pride Month. Olruggio may have his memory erased about the silver wood taking over Qifrey, but unconsciously he has been inventing new forms of fire magic to find a flame that can burn the silver wood inside Qifrey to save him.
Nowhere can create environments and living beings out of thin air, but the Institute and the Hypnotist are not one of them. That’s really Otto, it’s the real C.P.I why?Because only Otto knew about Noone, her patient number and the chrysanthemum killed by aphids.
If the Nowhere can truly read minds to create things a human would know and want, then the portrait details were taken from Otto’s mind, Low had no knowledge of those things, he was just another patient and Noone was long gone by the time he was experimented on by Otto. Low showed no familiarity towards Noone’s room, such a room would have been left abandoned in the counties psychiatric institute after Noone vanished and Otto fell into madness.
In Little Nightmares Altered Echoes, there's another Dark Six walking along a different path in the Tower...she's real, the toy even moved after she passed it...did Dark Six lose a little piece of herself while in the Tower? Is this the part who found her way outside to Mono?
Hm...Dark Six had no interest in this "Six",and the room we see "Six" in is the only room with nothing for a child and no wall art to tell a child was there, as if there is no child there,its just one of the Transmission's misleading fantasy's we were warned of. Perhaps the "Six" we see in the room is no more than an echoe of who Six used to be, a scared little girl who awakened in a place she could not recognize, a girl who no longer exists.
...the music box was her prison. But at the end, there was a sound of something hitting the music box, breaking it, until finally splitting it open. Mono didn't just free Six from the Transmission in the final fight of LN2, he freed Dark Six too.
Interesting...its stated Dark Six needs to untangle the power the transmission has over Six through the music box....perhaps Mono was not the only one fighting to free Six from the transmission's control.
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Who he was before and the one he couldn't forget.
Marion, as Myra puts it, was not like the other people in the Counties, he was a man who kept his promises and was willing to do what she gave up believing people would ever do, try. But as the Descent to Nowhere comic progressed, something about Marion felt...familiar.
To remind everyone, years ago, back when Little Nightmares 2 released, a certain piece of concept art of the Thin Man caught our attention. Back then, there were many things to take note of in the concept arts, but among them was the picture of the Thin man standing behind a table, smoking heavily as he questioned a child sitting in front of him, which made I and many other theorists question for years over the possibility of this unique picture possibly giving us insight to the kind of person the Thin Man was.
But in addition to this picture, other things began to stand out, other concept arts additionally depicting what we could only conclude to have been a detectives office, and with the Pale City having within it a child's missing poster, a toy store, a children's play room in the hospital, a children's school and an apartment with a room fitted for a child, but no actual children still roaming in the city designed to house a large number of them, all of these things made I and many other theorists theorize years ago the man in the picture was once a normal man, a heavy smoking detective in charge of finding the children who vanished from the Pale City, back when it was still just a normal human city, a city we now believe to have once been known by a different name, the Counties.
But such a task to find so many vanished children led us to believe such a detective was at his wits end in his struggle to find them, as a result we believed he would retreat to the only thing able to give him some comfort, a television where he could watch programs where problems could be resolved in under 30 minutes, it was his escape from reality.
However, with still so little information to go off back then, we struggled going back and forth between deciding if we should include the possibility of such a detective existing in the story or not...until the Descent to Nowhere comics showed us who this detective may have always been meant to be... Marion Guy, who one fateful morning met Myra Wan on the bridge after failing to sooth himself in front of the television. Who had attempted to give up his heavy smoking with lollipops and had a strong determination to solve the cold cases of the children who kept mysteriously vanishing in the city. But if what we theorized is true...then does this mean Marion Guy is Mono? Is he the Thin Man we saw in Little Nightmares 2?....maybe...but if he was, how would we know?....then again, maybe we always knew.
Marion was someone we were told had a blind resolve, in other words, he was an uncommonly single minded man. In fact Marion was as determined to work with Myra as he was to find those vanished children, refusing to work with anyone else but her because he truly believed only they shared what no one else in the Counties had left, a light on, and sure enough, even after Myra tried to push him away at the start of their first meeting, Myra began to understand Marion was someone worth trusting, sound familiar? It should, because despite not knowing Marion for very long, many theorists and I realized Marion and his relationship to Myra reminded us of Mono and Six.
And I know what you are thinking, "How can Marion be a child like Mono in the Nowhere, if he's an adult in the Counties?" The thing is, Mono and Marion's story in Descent to Nowhere are not happening at the same time. Time in the Nowhere is warped, a human could encounter others in the Nowhere from decades, even centuries apart from their own time, we can't trust time in the Nowhere to run at the same pace as the human world and we don't know what's truly become of the human world now during the events of the game. Of course there is a far more concerning matter to consider than just the obscure laws of time and space of the Nowhere...it's how an adult like Marion could somehow end up in the Nowhere as a child. We have always known there to be more than one way to enter Nowhere, the Nowhere itself prefers children but as we learned from the Ferryman in the Sounds of Nightmares, traveling to Nowhere is not limited to just kids, even adults can be granted permission to travel there, all it takes if for a toll in torments to be paid.
However, no matter the way, fear is essential to open the door into Nowhere. Because of this, we theorized an adult can enter Nowhere as a monstrous Resident, but only if they are willing to give into their desires, warped by their fears and do something irredeemable, before taking a sleep they can never awaken from, but more on this later. This however, is just with Residents who were once human themselves, but what if maybe...just maybe... there was always a way for adults to travel to Nowhere as the children they once were. From what we understand, only a special kind of tormented child can travel to Nowhere, not only must a child be consumed by their childhood fears, but they must also desire an escape from their own world before dreaming their way into the Threshold, guided by the Ferryman through the dark mist and through the door to Nowhere. There are many things a child can be afraid of, but from what we have learned from Noone and Ruse, all children in the Nowhere appear to have one fear in common, the fear of being truly and utterly alone. And if what Otto's professor theorized is true, fear really is the key to opening the door into Nowhere, but it may also be the key to how one will appear after entering it.
Many adults tend to grow out of their childlike hearts, and many more forget their childhood fears.... but not everyone. When Myra and Marion were first introduced, the two of them shared something not many people still had, they were children at heart. Marion for one, we learned is a bit naïve, likes cracking jokes, is constantly filled with questions to ask, and still wielded the innocent determination to uphold the duty he hoped to fulfill as a detective, he wanted to help bring some much needed change to the city. However, throughout the comic, we see Marion express a side of himself showing us even he was reaching his limits in dealing with a city plagued by corruption and strangeness, agreeing to commit to a double suicide with Myra if his final attempt at making a difference in the city failed. Marion had hoped he and Myra's combined efforts could do what no one else could, find a vanished child and solve the mystery of "The Milk Carton Cases" to finally wake the counties up like a blow to the head. Hush was the most recent child to vanish from the city, the one Marion had hoped to find, but in the final issues of the comic, when Marion learns their chief of police had killed Isaac, one of the children imprisoned in the secret underground floor of the Counties psychiatric institute, we see Marion lose hope of everything he wished he could bring back to the city, believing other children like Hush were as dead as Isaac, along with any change.
As Marion stood at the edge of the bridge, we can see just how broken he had now become, having finally reached his limit from facing the cruelty and corruption of the city, its the same face Myra had when she first stood at the edge of the bridge in Issue #1. With nothing more to give him just one little glimmer of hope to reignite his will to keep fighting, keep pushing the boulder up the hill, there was now only one thing Marion wanted more than anything....to leave such a cruel world all together. The only thing he had left to give him solace in his final moment, was knowing he would not leave the world alone, he had Myra with him ready to take the plunge alongside him...or at least he thought.
Marion was not aware Myra had been in the process of uncovering just where the vanished children were as she stood on the edge of the bridge with him. After taking her drugs, her mind threw her back to the day she first faced the Ferryman and it proved successful in finding the answers she needed, problem was the effects of the drugs she took to do it kept her mind and her body from reacting to stop Marion from jumping, and by the time Myra finally did resurface from the hole her mind had plunged into, it was already too late, Marion jumped off the bridge, and in his final moments, Marion faced a devastating realization... he was falling alone.
As Marion looks up at Myra still standing on the bridge, overwhelmed with the cruel reality of his situation as he continues to fall, something strange happens...Marion's body vanishes midfall. Even after Myra regained control of her body and desperately rushed to the bottom of the bridge, walking along the now frozen waters to search for Marion...there was no trace of him anywhere. As for where Marion vanished to, well, if what we theorized is true, then answer is obvious....he's in Nowhere. Marion may have been a grown man, but in those final moments of his fall....he must have felt as scared as a child.
If Marion truly wanted to escape the Counties as much as we believe, if he felt truly alone in his final moments and if he truly felt such a fear as any child would have felt, then Marion's deathly fall allowed him to do what Otto failed in doing, he dreamed the way the children did, reaching Hypnagogia, being asleep and awake, both at once, entering the Threshold and finding the door to Nowhere...and then maybe...just maybe...the Ferryman let Marion pass through the door.
While Myra learned just where the children were being taken to at the end of the comic, the Nowhere, Marion may have been just as successful in their mission. Marion, the detective who aimed to solve the mystery of the vanishing children, would eventually find out where those children were, but he himself would no longer remember anything of who he once was and what he aimed to accomplish the moment he awoke in the Nowhere, not as a man or a Resident... but as a child... a child we may now know as Mono, who would eventually meet the very same little girl whose vanishing started his partnership with Myra, but would just as easily be gone from his sight due to circumstances beyond their control, Hush.
If what we theorized is true, then could this be the reason why Mono was so willing to stand by Six's side and no one elses?
For years many of us wondered why Mono was so willing to find and stand alongside Six the moment they met, willing to risk it all to help her at every turn when he was not willing to do the same for the other kids like Hush and the kids in ep. 6 of the Little Nightmares 2 digital comic.
But if what we theorized is true, then Mono's determination to find and stand alongside Six was always because of one very simple reason...she was familiar to him...he knew her, but couldn't remember why...but now, maybe we do. Mono and Six, two children may have never been children at all, but rather adults who were still children at heart, who one fateful day crossed path on the bridge in the Counties, and then again in the Wilderness after their world was claimed by the Nowhere. But hey, it's just a theory.
After young Myra is pushed away by the Ferryman and awakens in her room, Myra reveals she was allowed to see Nowhere, but doesn't know why. Why would the Ferryman only allow her to see Nowhere?...unless he has plans for her, just like with Otto.
The person she was before.
When young Myra entered the Threshold,we see items floating in the black mist. But among them, two items stand out most, a brief case with two pictures....and a specific music box we know having only ever been associated with one child...Six.
Before we get to those two specific items, lets go over the others. The rocking horse alone was something Myra saw during her investigation in finding Hush, it was the only thing Myra could see as having given Hush some sense of joy in her neglected life while living in her family's apartment in the city, and if such a thing was in the dark mist of the Threshold, then what if all those other items young Myra saw were things only Myra could recognize, things she had seen or known of throughout her life...things now being used like a bread crumb trail to pull her in closer and closer to the door leading to Nowhere.
Aside from the rocking horse, we also see an ice skate and a rubber chicken. Myra said she used to love winter in the Counties, the ice skate in particular could be related to why, perhaps it was once a time where she would look forward to enjoying something she loved, skating on the frozen waters.
As for the rubber chicken, well your guess is as good as mine, but the television is unique given Myra does not own a television, we only ever see her listening to the radiobroadcast, but there is one person she knows of who could be linked to the television, Marion, who one fateful day decided to take a walk after failing to ease himself in front of a television screen. The day nothing good was on to watch was the day Marion first met Myra on the bridge.
Now I know what you are thinking, "what does any of this have to do with Myra being connected to Six, well isn't it obvious, its because among the various items young Myra sees in the Threshold, how is it two items we only ever saw associated with Six are now associated with Myra....unless maybe...just maybe...they were always Myra's to begin with.
The music box needs no introduction, we have seen time and time again how this very same music box brought Six comfort. No matter where she was, the same music box would always find its way to her to give her the sweet sound she wanted, but it was this very simple desire of wanting to listen to it which also proved useful to the Tower to take hold of and corrupt, turning Six into a Monstrous Resident who became protective of the music box giving her an escape from the horrors around her, but was something Mono knew had to be destroyed to free Six from the Towers control and return her to normal.
Of course seeing the same music box each and every time was uncanny, even more so now as we learn Dark Six will find and use the same music box in Altered Echoes, but knowing the Nowhere has the ability to manifest anything any child would desire out of thin air, and knows even more so everything about a child's life and what they would want by reading their minds, it was only natural for it to give Six the exact kind of music box she desired most. As for the song of the music box itself, well, in the Sounds of Nightmares chp. 3, we once heard Noone singing the song Six loved to play, but if what we theorized is true, then the song was never something belonging to Noone, it was a nursery rhyme known by the children who grew up in the Counties, meaning even adults like Myra know of it much like how Otto knew the old joke Jester told.
And I know what you are thinking, "But we never saw adult Myra play a music box", no... but then again....maybe we saw something equivalent to it. At the start of the Descent to Nowhere comics, there was always one little detail about Myra which stood out, how she favored listening to the radio, while it may not seem like such a big deal, just being able to listen to something out of a box must have been one of the few things Myra had to carry her through the day in a city where nothing was ever certain.
Myra had no television and always preferred to tune into whatever song, message or weather report the station had to offer, in a sense, a radio to an adult like Myra gave the same comfort a music box would to a child. So what does the suitcase with two picture have anything to do with Myra and Six?
The suitcase with the two pictures is something we all know of, its what we saw the day we first met Six in Little Nightmares, she awakened from her dream in the suitcase, but it was not the only place we saw it. In Little Nightmares 2, the prequel to Little Nightmares, we saw the same suitcase with two pictures in Monster Six's room. We always theorized the Tower gave Six everything she could want, but we also theorized it also gave her everything she knew or would
see in her life. The suitcase we at first theorized was just something she would later see on her journey aboard the Maw, and with no other suitcases portraying the unique detail of the two pictures, it seemed certain, but if what we theorized is true about Myra, then the suitcase was no future encounter....it was a detail of Six's past given to her by the Nowhere, a past in which Six was once known by a different name, a name she could no longer remember just like the rest of the humans trapped in Nowhere, but may now be a name we know thanks to the Descent to Nowhere comics...Myra wan.
Of course there are still other details we need to cover, such as the yellow raincoat and just how an adult like Myra could enter Nowhere as a child, but more on this later. For now...its all just a theory.
I know we joked about Myra and Marion being Six and Mono but...it may no longer be a joke.
Interesting, there's an eye symbol on the train, which is also on a toy train. Its not uncommon to see eye symbols which represent living structures on common items, but to see such a symbol on the train...could the train itself be alive?
For example, here are the eye symbols representing the Tower and the Maw, both living structures of their own.
A reminder. For years theorists and I have theorized the more uniquely designed eyes represented sentient flesh eyes who wielded greater power, additionally leading us to theorize there is a form of hierarchy among the eyes, with the Nowhere itself being at the top.
With the appearance of other children from the LN2 digital comic coming in LN Altered Echoes, we may finally learn more on those kids fates. The Toddler for one, who was taken by Thin Man, we theorized was taken into the Tower and roamed aimlessly inside it until meeting his end.
That kid in the light of the petrifying eye is not the Toddler btw, its one of the other kids.
Wait...it's one of the kids Mono encountered in the Little Nightmares 2 episode 6 digital comic. They were captured by the tall figure, whom we theorized was the original Resident of the Tower who was defeated and usurped by Mono.
Hush no longer has control of her arm, but the way it behaves…what is it responding to? The hand that was once her Punchy, it pulls her in new directions, taking action in ways she can’t… or is it doing everything she could only hope to do?
Read issue #4. So many questions but first...where is Marion's body? He jumped, but Myra didn't find his body at the bottom of the bridge, the water was even frozen solid but there was no trace of him...as if he just vanished, just like the kids
Its the Thin Man's T.V. room. So this is how Thin Man is able to travel to different locations and locate someone through the different screens around the Pale City so quickly. This must also be where Six was trapped before Mono found her again.
"Dark Six is on a haunting journey to recover what was lost, herself." "uncover clues tied to Six’s story and the Transmission" "echoes of past events, whispers of hidden connections, and signs that your journey is part of something larger." It's all coming together.