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L.M. Montgomery's old room in grandparents MacNeill's home, ca. 1880's. Cavendish, P.E.I.
I watched the sixth episode of "Anne Shirley" tonight and I realized something about it. At the part where Anne introduced the name of love interest on her first story which was Bertram, she heard that Gilbert's name was called.
Gilbert was trying to balance a book using a broomstick but it slipped and he fell down near Anne resulting to this little ship tease:
He stood up and apologized to Anne for the accident then the two resumed their routine. Around few days later, Anne talks about Bertram to Diana on the way to school when Gilbert appears. She didn't pay attention to him as expected.
It's interesting that whenever Bertram is mentioned, Gilbert shows up on screen. They also share one of the syllables of their names - BERTram and GilBERT. It's possible that Bertram symbolizes what kind of guy Anne she wanted to meet and visioned - someone is good, chivalrous and rich whereas Gilbert is poor but still good. Said vision symbolizes Anne's unrealistic ideals regarding to what kind of man she would want to be with which that part would be later forshadowed in future episodes of the show as well as in "Anne of the Island".
That's my theory based on that scenario so I could be wrong. Anyone who has read the sequels after "Anne of Green Gables" know what happens between Anne and Gilbert in the future.
Health care is a basic human right. Everybody deserves it… yes, even the people we don’t like.
— Dr. Gilbert Blythe, body autonomy activist* (well, basically)
This (quite paraphrased and modernised) quote is, however, still unfortunately about Dick Moore lmao. And it’s a subject that always remains a little bit touchy and controversial in the Anne fandom, but regardless of where opinions fall, it’s a quality about Gilbert that makes me love him all the more dearly. It’s easy to forget just how much of a forward thinker Gilbert is in this moment, because we all care so much about what it meant for Leslie… but in a hundred different and citable ways, Gilbert is lightyears ahead of his peers. Even often enough ahead of can’t-be-bothered-with-political-matters Anne, who is largely praised/credited herself with being a big forward thinker by her readership.
[*see Anne’s House of Dreams, Chapter 29]
@librarylexicon !!!!
which one of the following very real & very out of date I. m. montgomery quotes makes you cringe the hardest/involuntarily reenact this gif ^ the most 😅
🏳️🌈Tournament to decide the most queer coded Montgomery Character; round 1️⃣🏳️🌈
Starting off strong, ladies first.
Katherine Brooke
Josephine Barry
*no offense meant to AWAE fans, but we are taking no account of the the AWAE series Aunt Josephine, who was depicted as queer in the series. This poll is addressing canon characters only.
#lmao well#can ANYONE AT ALL beat katherine brooke in this category?#i actually think she might be the only character maud CANONLY (albeit subtly) wrote as non-heterosexual#and this is largely based on yes katherine’s lines in the books but also on the notion that the language maud used surrounding her…#was very mimicky of the language maud used when describing isabel anderson in her journal entire#(isabel of course being a stan of maud’s… as well as a known queer woman with romantic intentions toward her) —@gogandmagog
Can you say more, please?
Oh, I will try! 🫡
So Isabel Anderson takes a lot of explaining but as briefly as is possible, she was this woman who wrote to Maud in the 1930’s, and Maud, believing because of the way she wrote, that Isabel was a young fan, wrote back. Thinking this ‘young girl’ very clever and talented, the two began to exchange regular letters. When Isabel invited her over to her house (she didn’t live far) for dinner, Maud went… and was surprised to discover that Isabel was actually a 34-35 (I can’t remember which) year old school teacher. After that dinner, things got really strange and uncomfortable for Maud. Isabel starting writing more increasingly often, calling Maud’s house phone, and sending her gifts. All in an attempt to see her again. Eventually Isabel’s intentions became clear (she wrote to Maud about loving her and wanting to “sleep with” her [to be fair, this did refer to the common practice then of girls sharing beds during extended visits]), and Maud sort of shifts in her journal entries between feeling enormous pity for Isabel and then conversely abhorring her, also thinking her a “pervert,” and a “lesbian.” (In truth, Isabel was probably bisexual btw. She ‘chased’ men too, married and unmarried alike.)
At this point there were a few ‘stages’ of Isabel’s infatuation to come, with Maud 1) trying her best to ‘help’ Isabel (who wrote to her saying she’d kill herself if she didn’t hear back from her etc.) and therefore visiting her (which Maud learned was a mistake – staying over at Isabel’s parents only earned more intense letters form her, saying things like: “I have derived some comfort from sleeping in the precise spot you occupied half hopeful that some of the dear warmth might still be found to linger. But I crave something tangible. I want to hold in my arms what is dearer than life to me—to lie “spoon fashion” all through a long long night— to cover your wee hands, your beautiful throat and every part of you with kisses. I’m just mad with love for you…”) and allowing her to likewise visit the MacDonald (Montgomery) home (under great pains to always arrange for someone else to be handy), and 2) trying different ways to free herself from Isabel’s affection (ignoring her, pleading with her to see sense, writing strongly worded letters telling her to stay away, as she only wanted to be friends). It was very stressful for Maud (who pictured a scandal if Isabel were to actually commit suicide and leave behind letters addressed to Maud or a note that said she was killing herself because Maud wouldn’t love her), and the whole ordeal was just… like yikes, it was really quite something. 😅
Regarding Katherine Brooke – who Anne alternates between feeling enormous pity for and abhorring, who is cited in Windy Willows as having “a deep throaty voice… almost a man’s voice…,” who doesn’t “want a lover, I hate men,” and who might be pretty if she made some effort (compared to Isabel who Maud also reflected wasn’t pretty, but still wasn’t any less attractive than women she knew to have caught husbands) – there is that line where Anne says, “Katherine Brooke, whether you know it or not, what you want is a good spanking” and thissss is what’s so oddly close in wording to one of Maud’s journaled sentiments on Isabel, where she said that she would like to give “Miss Isabel a good spanking.” At the end of Windy Willows, there’s this other wish-fulfillment kind of niggle, where Anne “helps” Katherine by inviting her to Green Gables, and Katherine undergoes a ‘corrective’ and miraculous spiritual transformation through the magic of homey Green Gables and family-oriented Avonlea. In this, Anne achieves what Maud wanted (Maud openly states the reason she entertained and invited Isabel around her home, in the company of her sons and husband and friends, was in hopes of being such a ‘help’), but ultimately could not with Isabel.
Any thoughts on Shirley’s relationship with Susan compared to Anne and the way he starts calling Susan “Mother Susan”? I kinda feel like Susan stole one of Anne kids ☠️
Omg a million thoughts.
I think for Shirley, or any other more minor canon character that doesn’t get a huge amount of time in the spotlight, that it’s easy for readers to grab onto sparse canon fragments and expound on them tenfold because really – it’s all you have. For instance say X character is mentioned only twice in a novel, and each time they happened to be wearing pink sunglasses… now in fanon the jump is “X’s favourite colour is pink, and they only wear pink because they love it so much, and they always dreamed of having pink hair…” (this is a supremely stupid example, but you know what I mean?) and so on, and imo you can get really exaggerated versions of certain characters this way. And I do think this is sometimes the case with Shirley (even though it’s an impulse I understand, and one born out of necessity), and this is how we end up with some believing or thinking Shirley isn’t as much of a Blythe as the rest of his family, or that he prefers Susan to Anne, or that he isn’t very close to Anne, or even as you say, that he continued to call Susan “mother Susan” after the war. When really, we have no textual evidence to support that it did continue. It’s one of those things like yeah sure, it is possible… but it’s equally as possible that it didn’t. (And I personally doubt that it did. When I read that scene, I see a moment where Shirley is declaring for his girl, so to speak. He isn’t sure if he’ll come back from his service – after all, Walter already didn’t – and he wants Susan to know she’s been/is a Mother to him. There were many different types of ‘good-byes’ and ‘thank-yous’ to be said before boys went on to wear khaki for their country. It’s perfectly natural that Shirley would’ve done this for Susan, and it is very very sweet.)
It’s interesting though with Maud, because she does provide a lot of surrogate-type mothers in her books and short stories, and while she effortlessly proves the ferocity of the strength of these found-family bonds, she also can draw some pretty firm lines there. Like when Marilla won’t permit Anne call her “aunt Marilla,” because Marilla doesn’t believe in calling people by names or titles that don’t belong to them. For Shirley, there’s that line in Rainbow Valley narrative where Maud gives the ole air-quote to Susan’s “mothering” of Shirley – put there to pointedly differentiate from plain mothering.
Rainbow Valley by L.M. Montgomery
My own preoccupation on this subject has always been like, welllll what about Shirley? What did he feel? And it’s again, very hard to resolutely say. We just know too little. We only know Susan’s feelings. Like at the end of Anne of Ingleside, when Anne and Gilbert leave for a second honeymoon, and Shirley goes with Susan to her sisters house instead of Avonlea with the rest of the bigger kids… the text doesn’t tell us that this was necessarily Shirley’s choice. It doesn’t say, “Shirley wanted…”, instead it says: “Susan took…” (btw I don’t mean this to reflect poorly on Susan, only highlighting that it doesn’t give us any insight into Shirley’s feelings lol). Meanwhile, we do have examples of Susan putting Shirley to bed each night and ‘allowing’ Anne to on special occasion, but even in those, we also emphatically hear that Shirley still wants Anne to be the one tucking him in, despite it all.
Anne of Ingleside by L.M. Montgomery
Then we’ll flip-flop and have something like Shirley going to Susan about his bumps and scrapes, and to avoid “well deserved” spankings… which all things considered, this is a less of a motherly trait, so much as an indulgent grandmotherly trait (keep in mind, Susan was described as ‘elderly’ back in HOD days).
🫠 So yeah lmao all this to say/for the TLDR, at least for me and what can be fairly deducted from the text, that Anne and Susan are basically equals in the matter of Bringing Up Shirley… and that we definitely can’t say it’s canon that Susan is an usurper (or baby stealer!) of Anne in this way.
ooh shirleyposting! i do hard agree that shirley's relationship with susan is (understandably) exaggerated just because it's one of the like 3 things we know for sure about him. tbh i think what always tripped me up about susan is honestly just one passage, which is this bit in rilla of ingleside:
it feels pretty assertive, especially considering this is after walter dies -- i think my initial reaction was like "man susan, is this the time?"
in total fairness, there's also the possibility that susan is referring to "feeling old" (actually seeing someone she considers her baby be old enough to enlist). but it's also possible she's upset that the blythes leave her out of this decision -- shirley asks gilbert's permission, then anne's. (idk that she would've expected to be consulted, but might be hurt nevertheless.)
ofc it should be added that anne doesn't seem to mind. iirc she's only ever grateful that susan helped with shirley and she never gets upset when susan asserts shirley is "hers", as she does in rainbow valley, too:
(i go back and forth on this line...is it an understandable sentiment, given that susan raised shirley for most of his infancy? or is it kind of a tone-deaf thing to say to someone who nearly died giving birth to said child? idk. but as mentioned, anne doesn't seem to mind. regardless of how it comes off to the reader, anne does seem to agree that susan is 'just as much' shirley's mother, within the text.)
as for how shirley feels...i do agree shirley calling her "mother susan" when he enlists is a kindness; i read it as something more for susan than himself. the same way you stop being annoyed that your grandparents/parents want to hang out with you when you're older, i think shirley realizes what it means to his family -- including susan -- when he says goodbye and gives them affection he would've otherwise been embarrassed by, which is v. sweet (he's wholesome!).
^^^^^ yes to all this, I’m chronically and forever agreeing with anything under hashtag Shirley posting lmao.
Something you mention that really intrigues me though, is your clocking that Susan’s might’ve felt a little hurt by being left out of Shirley’s big decision, and his asking for only Gilbert and Anne’s permission (and a side-note that he’s the only son that asked his parents first, which is obviously slightly different for multiple reasons, but still quite on brand for him and his Blythelike integrity -- at 18 he didn’t need their blessing, rather it seems he wanted it). It almost lends a point into the territory of Shirley not really equating Susan to the same level as Anne and Gilbert. 🧐 Which means I’m gonna being chewing on this for weeks. And I also wonder (total conjecture obviously) if that potential hurt might’ve been more largely sourced in Shirley’s corner, than in Anne and Gilbert’s, because ultimately it was his decision and news to share. And ofc when Susan does find out, she’s actually been purposefully held in the dark for a few days, since it’s only after Shirley has formally enlisted and been given a uniform that she’s looped in. (Btw how much of Shirley putting this off do you reckon had to do with his boyish fear of “a scene”?)
Susan does get very possessive of Shirley, beautifully outlined in these passages you’ve added, and while Anne doesn’t ever contradict Susan’s assertions, there is this one bit in Anne of Ingleside that imo reflects that Anne doesn’t necessarily feel the same way:
Anne of Ingleside by L.M. Montgomery
“I really believe she thinks he is her own.”
“SHE THINKS.”
“SHE THINKS.”
This to me ≠ Anne also thinks. 🙅🏻♀️
But that said… I really can’t believe Anne, an orphan who was unwanted and treated lovelessly until she was eleven, would ever imagine that there could ever be such a thing as a child being too loved or having too many people to care for/about them. I bet she thought it was great. 🥹
Diana Barry
from the Anne of Green Gables series (1908-1939) by L. M. Montgomery
is Diana queer?
yes
maybe, I suppose
no
I don't know this character / see results
Anne of the Island - Chapter 28
“Oh, no. I wouldn’t want to marry anybody who was wicked, but I think I’d like it if he could be wicked and wouldn’t. Now, Fred is hopelessly good.” I don't think Anne would write Averil's Atonement the way she did a couple of years ago, today. I do enjoy the little ways in which we glimpse Anne's growth as a person through her years at college.
I think Anne is feeling Diana's loss even more keenly without Gilbert's companionship. Diana is getting married and moving away, Jane already has moved West, Ruby is dead, and Gilbert doesn't really keep in touch. That's a lot of change for a young woman to handle in about 2 years. Sure, she has her college gang but there's a huge sense of loss with Anne's girlhood definitively over, marked not only by her own transition, but also by those of people who grew up with her.
I'm super curious about how Avonlea found out about Gilbert's proposal and Anne's response? I don't think Charlie has the wits to guess so accurately. I also somehow don't think Anne would've told Diana. She holds certain things sacred and this would be one of them. Which makes me think either Gilbert's family guessed from his behaviour/their visibly strained friendship. Or Gilbert himself mentioned it to someone in his circle. What if Gilbert told Fred lmao? That would be very in line with that piece of fan art someone had posted of a drunk frat boy Gilbert crying over Anne.
I've written about this before, but I think "mr. publicly whipped for Anne since fourteen" doing a sudden about face would probably give people more than a few hints
This was my initial guess too! But @gogandmagog had some excellent points (in the replies) about why Diana is the more likely source.
Also because Gilbert hasn't actually been back in Avonlea much since the proposal. His family may suspect something, but they wouldn't have had a whole lot to go on.
via @batrachised
Wait can you elaborate on this? 🤔
to my understanding, people like Charlie Sloan and Moody Spurgeon among others would have been able to observe the sudden difference in Gilbert and Anne's relationship, and word could have gotten back home. Do I think that's necessarily how it happened? ehh. But even the narrative questions if Charlie was the one to guess--implying that even someone like Charlie, who has been markedly clueless in the past, would have picked up on what happened. Gilbert was not shy about his feelings for Anne, to the point that everyone saw it. A scenario I could see happening? Diana spills to Fred, and meanwhile, Charlie is back home and asked "Is that Blythe boy engaged to Anne yet?" and Charlie, with the slow realization of a slug crossing a roadway, comments "Oh, no - in fact I hardly see them together anymore - really, they've grown rather dist...*the dawn breaks*" then between the two sources, gossip spreads as it does in small town.
Lmaooo, no because this might be my favourite post yet. These are great points too @batrachised, only I tend to immediately, and again this is totally just for me, dismiss Charlie Sloane from the charge of being Chief Bean Spiller, since probably the #1 symptom of Sloaneishness is basically bewildering self-importance… and I think the Sloane family would’ve inquired about him and Anne rather than Gilbert and Anne. Charlie’s feelings Anneward would have been better known to his family, and I don’t reckon He of Fragile Ego much wanted to see talk about Anne’s rejection of his hand, or invite any discussion around it… ergo I think he’d keep it on lockdown mode. 🤫 Otherwise Avonlea gossip would be laughing.
Hahahah. Moody is out of the charge too imo, he was in school for being a Minister and held himself solemnly apart from things like gossip. Him telling his mom about Roy doesn’t count as gossip -- that was a simple fact, not idle talk or a rumor.
Lock Diana and Fred up. 🚔 Diana had the history and the knowledge straight from Anne.
How did Avonlea find out about Anne rejecting Gilbert’s proposal?
Diana told Fred and he was indiscreet
Charlie Sloane
Idk/another way/see results
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Is Diana Barry-Wright still Anne’s best friend after AOTI?
Yes. No one can replace Diana!
No. Their lives take different paths and though they stay pals they’re not bffs.
I’m unsure/see results.
poll submitted by 👤anonymous*, thank you!
*anonymous adds, “Diana’s been under fire lately, let’s see what the general consensus is here! XD”
The Blue Castle by L.M. Montgomery, feat: photos from Polish-Brit television drama ‘Dzwony Wojny’ (or ‘The Passing Bells’)
When did Barney and Valancy consummate their marriage?
Immediately after they were married.
A few months after their marriage. They needed to know each other better first.
Half way through the book or around six months into their marriage.
Closer to a year after their marriage. Sometime before the train incident.
Not until they knew Valancy had been misdiagnosed. At/after the end of the book.
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Pick your favorite crack!ship:
Ilse Burnley x Phil Gordon
Matthew Cuthbert x Marilla Cuthbert
Emily Starr x Barney Snaith
Ethel Travers x Olive Stirling
Perry Miller x Cissy Gay
Valancy Stirling x Andrew Stuart
Matthew Cuthbert x Susan Baker
Walter Blythe x Susan Pevensie (the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe)
Kilmeny Gordon x Beverly King
Shirley Blythe x Persis Ford
Walter Blythe x Wendy Darling (Peter Pan)
Emily Starr x Katherine Brook
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After asking, I received over 20 submissions for this inquiry! Tumblr only permits one poll per post, so if you don’t see your crack ship here, it’s because I am saving the other submissions for Friday. (: Thank you for participating. 🗳️
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