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I'm not interested in arguing with anyone on this hellsite. I am here to vent. If you try to argue with me I'm just gonna block you.
Ok, so you don't like TMA/TME. You don't like that its a "harmful binary."
Good! You should hate it!
We do too. That's the whole point. You think we like being subjected to transmisogyny?
The problem is that you are regarding transfeminists, and trans women in general, as if we are the ones who created this situation instead of the transmisogynists who actually created it and are enforcing it. We're just describing it, giving it a name so that we can fight it. If you hate it so much, why are you attacking the women who are trying to end it?
I don't even understand the argument that it's a binary at all. Given that TME includes such a wide breadth of identities…all cis people, and even some trans people. How is that a binary? Just because there's two options? By that argument you could say literally all language creates a binary, because everything is either an elephant or not an elephant, a concept or not a concept, liminal or not liminal, and so on into infinity. There's no difference between those something/not something examples and TMA/TME. It's just another way of saying "affected by transmisogyny" / "not affected by transmisogyny."
australian sour patch kids have gluten in them i am truly at my fucking limit im crashing out im waging war against wheat idgaf anymore
oh is that one of those things where ableist companies put in traces of common allergens so they can just avoid the cost of making it safe
WHAT
A trend we predicted in 2016 continues.
US based but it’s similar reasons in other countries. and of course many companies have international locations. idk if that’s why it’s happening with sour patch kids but this is a thing
I cannot even explain how ANGRY I am at this.
My nephew is very allergic to eggs, peanuts, tree nuts, and sesame. Last year my sister discovered all hot dogs and hamburger buns now contain sesame. Not "may contain", but listed in the ingredients. This year basically every brand of sliced bread also now contains sesame, making it very difficult to find bread items he can eat.
They're just adding it to their products, so they can just list it as an ingredient and not bother with worrying about cross contamination. And they aren't even bothering with telling anyone. Capitalism is going to kill us all.
"Which brings us back to Kellogg’s. Back in 2016, the company found a way around the added burden and expense of complying with the FSMA: they simply began adding trace amounts of peanut flour to their cracker products. Doing so allowed them to list peanuts as an ingredient of the product, freeing them from having to prevent cross-contact.
At the time, Kellogg’s notified Food Allergy Research and Education (FARE) about the impending change and left it to them to warn the allergic community. In this case, Pearson’s didn’t even bother as near as we can tell."
TME = cis men, cis women, trans men, transmasculine nonbinary people.
TMA = trans women, transfeminine nonbinary people.
Both categories include women and nonbinary people
Both categories include people with penises, and people with vaginas, and people with ambiguous genitals.
Both categories include intersex people.
TME includes cis and trans men.
Anyone claiming this is a binary is being disingenuous or willfully ignorant, which is honestly the same thing.
So. Obligatory TME + kind of new to the language of it all but I'll do my best to explain?
So within the current common gender ideology. Male and Female are considered The Binary. Because they're two "defined*" things that are adhered to. Identities outside of that, agender, demigirl, demiboy, genderflux, etc. are considered Non-Binary. Non-Binary in itself is an identity, it's an identity that gets its name from falling outside the female-male binary.
* Female and Male as a binary are considered to be Defined gender presentations but given gender is a Social Construct "defining" these things is not actually possible because you would inevitably leave people out. Consider "Defined" as "Widely agreed upon" as in you think of something specific when you think of a man or a woman regardless of cis or trans status. I'm not getting into how demi-(gender) and related identities are considered More Binary bc this post would be too damn long sorry.
TMA/TME is not considered a binary in the way that We* use it because 1. the language is designed to center a specific axis of oppression, and how people are affected by it. It's less about TMEs and more about the struggled faced by those who fall under TMA.
The Gender Binary describes and discusses both groups equally as it is designed to. TMA/TME describes transfeminized people Specifically.
*we as in transgender people.
It's not considered a binary because it's not meant to be USED as one. It's meant to describe an axis of oppression faced by a certain demographic. This "certain demographic" is not a "widely agreed upon" thing like the two sides of the Gender Binary is, it's specific in its language and use. Transmisogyny-affected is a very specific, non-debatable description of a person's interaction with transmisogyny.
Additionally, while you may be correct on a basic linguistic level to Call it a binary, you'd be wrong in the way that We* use the term. Among the trans community the term Binary has kind of become demonized and framed as something we should oppose because The Gender Binary is something made by our oppressors that we've been forced into.
*we as in transgender people.
You need to understand that within the space of trans discourse, transfeminized people are dehumanized and ignored. They finally have a Popular term to describe themselves and their oppression with and TME people feel threatened by this because it describes how We Have Hurt Them. So the solution to this is to compare transfeminized people's language to the language of our oppressors. To de-legitimize transfeminized people and make THEM sound like the villains.
That is why people are pushing against the language of "binary" to describe TMA/TME language.
Obviously anyone who knows better is free to correct me. I'm less here for a debate and more here to share my understanding of things and if that understanding is wrong I'd very much like to be corrected.
Penis aint nothin but an outie vagina
Quick, imagine a guy. Just any dude.
Did you imagine a woman? No one does. Tell me again how these terms are "gender neutral."
o-oh.
O H .
F U C K .
"folks", "y'all", and hell even "people" are all right there....
I’m sorry but I simply cannot move past this this was too funny for me
Folks, fuckos, creatures, flesh puppets, and everypony are also gender neutral if you were wondering
If you call me "fucko" I'm going to assume you're being hostile and respond accordingly. If you call me "creature" or "flesh puppet" I'm strait up going to hurt you.
Sorry, i had a poor media literacy moment since those are all things i willingly call myself… i will not call strangers the middle three. I stand by folks and everypony though and also raise yins as an option
"Folks," "yins," and even "everypony" are all extremely fine (though "everypony" will absolutely out you as a tumblrite, lol). I'm an avid "folks" user myself
Quick, imagine a guy. Just any dude.
Did you imagine a woman? No one does. Tell me again how these terms are "gender neutral."
o-oh.
O H .
F U C K .
Why not just call us girls? Women? Why does it need to be anything else?
I dunno! I just- I want my writing to feel casual, joyful, and comical! But with how many words in the common language are just slurs or hatred in disguise its getting me killer anxiety about how I can get a similar taste but without offending too many people. :< There's no cute, chill nicknames for women. Maybe 'ladies' but that feels more like cat-calling then something like 'dude'. Duddette? Dudelings? I- I just don't know!!
"I gotta walk on eggshells around all you overly sensative trannies" -ass comment.
Im not surprised though, given that you're an "misandry/androphobia" truther.
I love you
The "I just don't think it was set up well / it came out if nowhere / etc"- type comments about Jax being confirmed to be a trans woman aggrivate me so much because these people say literally the same things about actual real-life trans women when we come out. They said the same things about me when I came out.
It's literally just "there were no signs" bullshit.
Trans characters are allowed to be bad, or sudden. Im sorry you were tricked into liking a trans woman. Go read harry potter again or something.
Happy pride month to that white tank top thing Kira wears sometimes. Literally stunning
why did jax abstract off screen??????
Because I wanted it to feel as abrupt and upsetting as it feels in real life.
This shits too goddamn much. I can't take it much longer, I'm gonna die.
(Real life shit not tumblr bullshit)
Corporations precisely on june 1st:
It's July now.
"Androphobia" means literally the exact same thing as "misandry"! Replacing the "misandry" in "transmisandry" with "androphobia" changed literally nothing about the term!
There is no systemic or cultural oppression of men for being men! Misandry/androphobia is not real!
It is all bullshit made up by antifeminist men in the late 2000s who called themselves "Men's Rights Activists" (MRAs). It's literally bullshit that antifeminist conservative assholes have been peddling for years! Yes, that includes all your horseshit arguments about "well, what about blsck men! What about gay men!" These are all talking points that I personally have watched antifeminst MRAs throw around on social media for DECADES!
You are spreading conservative antifeminist propeganda!
i thought transandrophobia was not "transphobia x androphobia" but "transandro + phobia" as in the specific oppression faced by transmascs? where "transandro" refers to transmasc people and "phobia" refers to the discrimination
That's bullshit, and you should be able to recognize that.
MRAs coined "misandry" to subvert and counter feminist criticisms of misogyny. And the MRAs peddling "transandrophobia" coined that term for the exact same reason; to counter and subvert transfeminist criticisms of transmisogyny. Why do you think they originally used the term "transmisandry?" Or do you think "transmisandry" is "transmis + andry?!"
Transmisogyny is a term that was coined by Julia Serano in 2007 because of her understanding of how intersectional oppression works. Transmisogyny exists because both transphobia and misogymy exist, and they intersect to create a unique form of oplression that transfeminine people are subjected to. "Transmisandry/Transandrophobia" does not exist because there is no "misandry/androphobia" for transphobia to intersect with.
If you absolutely need a soecial term to describe a unique form of discrimination that transmascs face, transemasculation would be the only apt one. Because transphobia does intersect with emasculation to create a new and unique kind of discrimination that transmascs have to deal with. But, of course, MRAs refuse to use that one because they can't use it to trojan horse the idea that "misandry is real" into the mainstream.
“what? don’t like it when your ‘manic pixie dream girl’ is experiencing mania?”
"Androphobia" means literally the exact same thing as "misandry"! Replacing the "misandry" in "transmisandry" with "androphobia" changed literally nothing about the term!
There is no systemic or cultural oppression of men for being men! Misandry/androphobia is not real!
It is all bullshit made up by antifeminist men in the late 2000s who called themselves "Men's Rights Activists" (MRAs). It's literally bullshit that antifeminist conservative assholes have been peddling for years! Yes, that includes all your horseshit arguments about "well, what about blsck men! What about gay men!" These are all talking points that I personally have watched antifeminst MRAs throw around on social media for DECADES!
You are spreading conservative antifeminist propeganda!