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I'm not interested in arguing with anyone on this hellsite. I am here to vent. If you try to argue with me I'm just gonna block you.
this blog is run by a serial harrasser whos gotten multiple transfems deleted btw
trans joy my ass
in particular they were harrassing yay-bunnies and a few others
The fact of the matter is that every trans masc is on thin ice. trans women are being directly and specifically targeted by the state, and rather than show any form of solidarity, these dudes are helping throw us to the wolves.
it is not sufficient for you to be neutral. you must be a vocal and aggressive ally to the trans femmes in your life. you must not be complicit.
Pictured: a fandom that definitely doesn't have issues with Trans Women.
I’ve seen trans women on tumblr get called TERFs for believing that trans men are men and trans women are women and transition materially changes your social class. What are we doing
transmisogyny doesnt suddenly become okay because you think that trans woman has done something worth punishing her over.
Just say you wanna kill trans women holy shit
And these cunts wonder why we fucking hate them
if you lose interest in a trans woman when you find out she has a vagina then die
we're not sex toys we're people 👍
oh noooo you can't fit her into the "tranny shemale futanari dickgirl" sexual archetype OR the "pure, Natural cis woman crafted by god" sexual archetype? you have to respect her as a person rather than as a sex object? fuuuuck that must be really hard for you I'm sorry
it's funny that both trans and cis women alike are reduced to our genitals, but with trans women it's especially extreme. transness is thought of as infinitely worse than cisness in every way, so why would you ever desire a trans woman if not to play with her one unique feature? and if she doesn't, or can't, put out, what's the point of her? what value does she even have? she's just a sex toy, you can just throw her out
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Beach episode but awesome???
the anon who's obsessed with the idea that I'm "defending transmeds" by saying that the stigma against dysphoria contributes to transmisogynistic rape culture is saying I'm part of the "transsexual clique," and can I just say. if there's a transsexual clique can I please please join I don't want to sit with these people anymore
like the truth is it's stigmatized for a trans woman to have dysphoria and to not want to make her body available to people
it's "regressive" to not love having body hair or broad shoulders or a penis, to not want to top, because haven't you heard? women can top! it's current year! how regressive not to want to top as a woman!
a trans woman is told she only has dysphoria because she's internalized harmful ideas about what a woman can and can't look like, and actually by internalizing these things she's perpetuating them! if she weren't a regressive prude she'd listen when I tell her not to get rid of her penis! better pull out the terf talking points about how dangerous and risky bottom surgery is
she speaks out about this and expresses frustration that people who do not understand dysphoria are minimizing her experience with it and narrativizing about it to control her body, and suddenly a chill runs down your spine as it all becomes clear. she is the second coming of blaire white, she's coming for YOUR right to transition!
that's what the dysphoria was all along, huh? the exact kind of bitter self-hatred that drives one to hate other trans people. tsk tsk, if only she'd love herself, then she would top me
I lost my then best friend when I came out because she wouldn't stop telling me shit like this about how my dysphoria was "only a result of toxic beauty standards for women." She would not stop telling me that I "shouldn't want to get rid of [my] facial hair." Because "you know cis women have facial hair too!" I never talked to her about how I was going to get bottom surgery. I'm absolutely positive she would have said the same kind shit to me about that too.
I told her to stop, that the things she was saying to me were hurtful. I tried to explain to her that dysphoria isn't dysmorphia, and this isn't about beauty standarda at all. But she refused to listen. She straight up told me that she wouldn't stop telling me these things and trying to convince me to stop getting hair removal "for [my] own good." So I had to block her on everything and go no contact with her.
trans girls are allowed to be annoying and stereotypical and socially inept and hyperactive and hypersexual and various types of animalgirl and there's nothing you can do about it. in fact if you're mean to that skirt go spinny reddit trans girl i'm stealing your entire house
So what I think is that there's this default belief in patriarchy that men are superior to women and therefore the "masculine" sphere is superior to the "feminine" sphere. And so, as feminists have fought to expand the number of allowable female activities, men (on the aggregate over generations) have retreated from those activities because they're now seen as "feminine", and so partaking in them is incommensurate with their belief in their own superiority. And, unfortunately, as this has progressed, this has resulted in a lot of men sectioning themselves off from, frankly, everything that actually makes being alive worthwhile. It's a misery spiral, and the only way out is to abandon male supremacy.
You can see this very starkly in certain professions too.
Like mine, archaeology. It used to be dominated by men as late as the 70s. And back then it was highly regarded as this grand prestigious profession.
But starting sometime over the last 40 years the gender demographics of it have shifted drastically. Now it's split pretty evenly between men and women (still almost entirely cis though. Anna Prentiss and myself are literally the only two trans people, let alone trans women, that I know of in the field.) In some places it's even dominated by women! And look how its now regarded: its prestige is almost entirely gone. Some people in other acedemic fields barely even consider it an acedemic profession, most outright deny that its a science at all! And in the toxic manosphere its openly hated. Men like Graham Hancock have made an entire career out of demonizing the field of archaeology.
These things are not coincidental.
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Ok, so you don't like TMA/TME. You don't like that its a "harmful binary."
Good! You should hate it!
We do too. That's the whole point. You think we like being subjected to transmisogyny?
The problem is that you are regarding transfeminists, and trans women in general, as if we are the ones who created this situation instead of the transmisogynists who actually created it and are enforcing it. We're just describing it, giving it a name so that we can fight it. If you hate it so much, why are you attacking the women who are trying to end it?
It's really not enforced or conceptualised by the average person (who is the enforcer of transmisogyny) as a binary in nearly the same way as the gender binary is. Like the average person isn't really likely to divide the population into the binary categories of "transfem" and "not transfem" (which is what I understand tma and tme to mean? (i know what they stand for. everyone is "affected" by transmisogyny one way or another so if you take the literal meaning it is useless) correct me if wrong). For a start, the tma/tme categories are not balanced like men/women. So while your average person will have preconceived generalised notions about both men and women ("men like rocket ships", "women like dinosaurs") it is only really feasible to actually hold preconceived generalised notions about the tma category ("trans women like velociraptors") because the tme category is so large.
My point here is just that tme is almost useless as a category - the only uses I see for it are in rhetorical symmetry with tma ("tmas are generally given far less leeway to make professional mistakes than tmes") whereas tma as a term is generally very useful to describe a set of experiences, disadvantages, oppressions, etc. without mentioning tmes at all ("tmas are often subjected to a kafkaesque process when attempting to get hormones" (note how this does not and can not say anything about all tmes recieving swift access to hormones because they don't necessarily)). The only things you can even correctly say about tmes are things that can (and I would argue should) be rephrased purely in terms of the tma term.
TME is not "useless as a category" because everyone is not affected by transmisogyny. Your own statements prove that. Like where you point out that transfeminine people are given less leeway to make mistakes than everyone else.
Your brain is there, you understand the truth, but your inherent subconscious transmisogyny isn't letting you accept it.
I'll assume you mean "not everyone is affected by transmisogyny" and not "everyone is not affected by transmisogyny".
If tme is useful as a category, make a statement using it. Say something useful or helpful about tmes that is not actually just about tmas (my "statements" in the second paragraph were both about tmas, not tmes. The first statement was directly intended to show the only purpose of tme that I can think of, for rhetorical symmetry. The statement makes perfect sense (even if it is worse grammatically) without the last 2 words, hence the tme is useless except for rhetorics).
Yes, my first statement was a typo. Not everyone is affected by transmisogyny.
I think I see your problem. You think these are supposed to be identity labeles similar to "gay" or "lesbian" or "queer" etc. They are not.
Yeah, obviously TME is useless for categorizing people outside of talking about transmisogyny and how it affects transfeminine people and how it doesn't affect non-transfeminine people. The entire point of these terms is to talk about who is affected by transmisogyny and who isnt.
Your point is what is useless.
"You think these are supposed to be identity labels" No I do not. I think they are supposed to be similar to "man" and "woman" (which are confusingly also identity labels) strictly in their use as delimiting social classes. I compare "tmas are given less leeway to make professional mistakes" and "women are given less leeway to make professional mistakes". However, whilst men as a social class (occasionally) have expectations unrelated to women ("men are expected to perform masculinity by gaining and exercising power over other people") tmes as a social class do not have any expectation that is unrelated to tmas. This leaves tme as little more than a vestigial organ of tma, and so, almost useless compared to tma.
Again, my argument is an argument from ignorance; you can disprove it via example of using tme productively, please do so.
Ypu are not listening at all, not even to yourself. TME and TMA are not like "Man" and "woman" at all. And the fact that you're claiming they are proves my point that you think these are identity labeles. You even admit that when you point out that "man" and "woman" are identity labeles! "Man" and "woman" are genders, "TME" and "TMA" are not. In fact, both groups contain people who are women and people who are not women.
You claim to speak from ignorance, and yet you make bold statements of fact and try to educate me on this. Are you even transfeminine? It sure doesn't sound like you are.
I don't think you are arguing in good faith, none of your thetoric or behavior has indicated that you are. You are here to "educate the dumb trannies."
Ok, so you don't like TMA/TME. You don't like that its a "harmful binary."
Good! You should hate it!
We do too. That's the whole point. You think we like being subjected to transmisogyny?
The problem is that you are regarding transfeminists, and trans women in general, as if we are the ones who created this situation instead of the transmisogynists who actually created it and are enforcing it. We're just describing it, giving it a name so that we can fight it. If you hate it so much, why are you attacking the women who are trying to end it?
It's really not enforced or conceptualised by the average person (who is the enforcer of transmisogyny) as a binary in nearly the same way as the gender binary is. Like the average person isn't really likely to divide the population into the binary categories of "transfem" and "not transfem" (which is what I understand tma and tme to mean? (i know what they stand for. everyone is "affected" by transmisogyny one way or another so if you take the literal meaning it is useless) correct me if wrong). For a start, the tma/tme categories are not balanced like men/women. So while your average person will have preconceived generalised notions about both men and women ("men like rocket ships", "women like dinosaurs") it is only really feasible to actually hold preconceived generalised notions about the tma category ("trans women like velociraptors") because the tme category is so large.
My point here is just that tme is almost useless as a category - the only uses I see for it are in rhetorical symmetry with tma ("tmas are generally given far less leeway to make professional mistakes than tmes") whereas tma as a term is generally very useful to describe a set of experiences, disadvantages, oppressions, etc. without mentioning tmes at all ("tmas are often subjected to a kafkaesque process when attempting to get hormones" (note how this does not and can not say anything about all tmes recieving swift access to hormones because they don't necessarily)). The only things you can even correctly say about tmes are things that can (and I would argue should) be rephrased purely in terms of the tma term.
TME is not "useless as a category" because everyone is not affected by transmisogyny. Your own statements prove that. Like where you point out that transfeminine people are given less leeway to make mistakes than everyone else.
Your brain is there, you understand the truth, but your inherent subconscious transmisogyny isn't letting you accept it.
I'll assume you mean "not everyone is affected by transmisogyny" and not "everyone is not affected by transmisogyny".
If tme is useful as a category, make a statement using it. Say something useful or helpful about tmes that is not actually just about tmas (my "statements" in the second paragraph were both about tmas, not tmes. The first statement was directly intended to show the only purpose of tme that I can think of, for rhetorical symmetry. The statement makes perfect sense (even if it is worse grammatically) without the last 2 words, hence the tme is useless except for rhetorics).
Yes, my first statement was a typo. Not everyone is affected by transmisogyny.
I think I see your problem. You think these are supposed to be identity labeles similar to "gay" or "lesbian" or "queer" etc. They are not.
Yeah, obviously TME is useless for categorizing people outside of talking about transmisogyny and how it affects transfeminine people and how it doesn't affect non-transfeminine people. The entire point of these terms is to talk about who is affected by transmisogyny and who isnt.
Your point is what is useless.