LioSleuths

Have a hunch that someone is cheating? Underage? Multi-accounting? Show us how good of a Sleuth you are.

[liosleuths]

I'd watch out for Niju. They are only a day old and already bidding on 800 heart shells with 95gb. Their only contact is gifts from Jaxster from the looks of it and idk enough about Jaxster to know if they already have 2 accounts. A confession on the lioden confession blog has a link where you can see all this, but I can recontact with screenshots if needed. Not exactly cheating as of yet, but definitely sketchy.

Niju has been banned from the game. When asked, they did not have the the currency however apparently they fully intended to purchase GB with their paycheck. Their reason for being banned is due to their connection to a public WiFi. I suppose a hotel or apartment of sorts? Others had registered and they all had been banned as well. Whether this was a large accident or a large multi accounting attempt, we will never know.

[liosleuths]

Do you know anything about mimi123? I think she's underage and I actually questioned this and she said her granddaughter uses her acco too. I reported to staff but I'm not sure if she was ever banned or anything.

The username is familiar. We will take a look into it and see what we can find out. Of course we will post anything of interest here for all to see.

[liosleuths]

Is this blog already dead?

Not at all. It takes time to figure out solid evidence. We’re still very active and reporting to the mod box anything of value. If you have something you want us to look into, let us know. 😊

I would like to also add that we recently heard back on one of our tickets submitted on Galaxis. Apparently, there isnt enough evidence, which means somehow they’re keeping their IPs separate, even though the accounts are very clearly controlled by her, possibly some zombie accounts a friend made. We are working on other cases, and do hope to have some more cases of note soon.

[liosleuths]

Sometimes Wayback does not archive pages / archives pages at only certain times leading to more recent information being missed; it can be a handy source but shouldn't be relied on 100%. Including both links and screenshots is the best way to go as threads/pages can be edited or deleted and while screenshots are manipulable they are better than nothing in the event of missing/edited info. Plus, chat/private messages can be edited and taken out of context or excluded to falsely incriminate users.

Typically we just go with links and screenshots as you said. I usually don’t like to include screenshots from messages or chat, unless they are screenshots of messages in my own inbox. Mods can look at messages in inboxes, but people who have “deleted” the messages yet kept the screenshots could always be faked. Chat and messages are usually not solid enough proof anyway. 

[liosleuths]

Just wanted to point to out for all you sleuths that if you Google "Wayback Machine" you will get a link to a website that can search urls for archived Web pages. Might help with gathering proof of lion ownership and such. Good Luck!

I’ll be the first to admit I’m not all that familiar with the site, though it does look as if it may prove useful. On a quick glance however, it doesn’t seem to keep information on pages you need an account to see.

[liosleuths]

To anyone who’s concerned about what we do here..

We are being forced to air dirty laundry because the laundry isn't being washed. 

aka, the information we receive or put out here is information that has most likely already been reported. But some mods seem to overlook obvious evidence or turn away issues against people who aren’t big time players or who are cash cows so to speak.

We don’t claim ANYONE is guilty until proven. Everyone that is posted here will be innocent until enough evidence has been gathered about them for us to report to the mods and then gain the attention needed or unneeded.  You shouldn’t have to worry about us airing out dirty laundry, unless you’re worried that someone has posted about you and will get you found out. :)

Thank you for your time.

[liosleuths]

listen my friends, my dudes... if you have suspicions about someone but you don't have ANY proof, guess fucking what, you can still report it to the mods. they have powers to look into shit like IPs and half aging and people potentially being underage. you might not think you're shit stirring here but it is EXACTLY what you're doing - airing dirty fucking laundry onto a public blog and slandering peoples names. you should be ashamed of yourselves, honestly.

First off, we don’t know you. We aren’t your friends or your dudes. Secondly, we haven’t slandered anyone’s name. Most of the people who post here have reported this stuff to the mods and got no justice delivered or their evidence ignored. You can’t go to court with a case and not have a single shred of evidence and then expect for it to go your way. 

Once again, if YOU personally have any evidence and issues you want addressed by the mods, why don’t you stop complaining about a whole entire team searching for evidence against someone, and report it to the admins yourself like we suggested before? Also, we haven’t stated anyone is guilty. We’ve only provided proof of people supposedly being guilty. We have half the mind to believe that one of the people that’s been spoken about may just be you. Since you take the evidence we have gathered so far so personally.. Have a nice damn day.

[liosleuths]

Just gonna mention that it is obvious that Sangre is multi accounting, and I have personally reported those accounts (along with Bilby and her beau account she was selling frozen lions on). All I got was that it would be looked into. So why will nothing happen to Sangre? She donates too much and they aren't going to turn that cash cow out to pasture. This blog is a good try, but the staff is too corrupt to really care.

With multiaccounting, only excess accounts are banned. If Sangre was proven to have 4 accounts, they would still have their 2 main ones, and would still buy GB just the same. We’re not working with the idea in our minds that every single rule breaker will be banned, it’s unrealistic considering many of them do buy a lot of gb, we only have the intent to level the playing field as much as possible. At any rate, every single reply the staff ever gives to reports filed on cheating players is some variation of “We’ll look into it.” They’re not known for their clarity.

[liosleuths]

you do know that you should actually modbox this shit not spread garbage around right

None of this is garbage and we aren’t spreading anything. We’re looking for proof and trying to gather as much information as needed to take this to the mods/admins and NOT have it ignored like it usually has been in the past. Have an issue with the way we work? Modbox it yourself.

[liosleuths]

Blaz1n

There was a newer account I reported awhile back that had tooooons of muties and high statted lions that came from Blaz1n’s “brother’s” account. 

http://www.lioden.com/territory.php?id=96445

Staff said it was nothing suspicious, but it may be worth keeping an eye on. 

Thanks for posting here, we’ve noted this and taken it in account. We will be sure to explore it a bit more!

I saw this on the blog, I tried messaging them to try and trip them up over something, but the day after the blog post they left and haven’t been online since. It’s definitely worth watching to see if there’s any change.

[liosleuths]

Staff refused to put in place a feature that makes you manually link your accounts or be instantly banned if you're caught out. I feel like that would have solved so many problems and it really sucks that they didn't think it was a big enough deal to put it in place before getting 100,000 accounts. Its very hard to prove if someone is multi-accounting so I'm very glad this blog exists to provide evidence

I can see why they may have refused an auto banning system, but they for sure need a better way of catching multiaccounters. In the mean time, proving it is definitely tough, but there’s almost always some link.

[liosleuths]

xylla here with some image evidence. appears that there are… 4? accounts circulating. rika, cavarathiel1, galaxis, and nekare. :’)

[liosleuths]

Wow, it is so easy to play this game without cheating, you know? I can hardly believe how many scummy multi-accounters are out there... It reminds me of all that sports controversy with athletes using performance enhancing drugs to cheat. If they aren't on the same base level as anyone else, what sort of victory can they ever achieve that wont feel totally hollow? I hope they all feel empty inside for trying to cheat the system like this, for not being good enough to not resort to cheating.

I have to agree, no matter what the benefits were I’d prefer not to cheat just to keep the sense of achievement to myself. Usually they get nothing except a ban out of it though.

[liosleuths]

I imagine a lot of multiaccounters use a separate ip address or a proxy to keep themselves hidden. It's very easy to just look up 'free web proxy' and go right to lioden from it. I wonder if the staff might have to someday block the most popular proxy sites or monitor users using proxies so there won't be as much funneling/freezing lions on separate accounts as there is now.

Definitely a good idea.

[liosleuths]

Any idea if Anaki #75008/ 75013 has been temp banned before for being underage? They said in chat yesterday they're currently 16, and reference their age a *lot* which seems kinda defensive, but according to their join date they've been playing for well over a year already so either they must have been underage when they joined (nothing much to be done about that now) or they're still underage now and just continually saying they're 16 to avoid the rule...

Anaki has in fact been banned before for being underage and playing. For all we know they could have lied about their birth date to the mods/admins since they returned quite quickly as a "16" year old.

[liosleuths]

Galaxis

We are currently looking into two accounts that appear to be Galaxis’s. This one, id=97242, which has their stat rep on it, and this one, id=98169, who has their prized 7k skyward lioness. Worth noting that the 2nd has only played lioden for a grand total of 7 minutes, and wasnt online when they received the lioness, so it is pretty much a confirmed account. Even if it weren’t for the fact that the only friend that account has is Galaxis’s main. We have all the info possible from those two accounts and the lions on them, but its possible there are lions on Galaxis’s main and official side account that can also help. Any additional information you can find is welcome.

[liosleuths]

The chat was from a very long time ago, so I don't have the chat anymore to screenshot but I'm sure that with questioning, you may be able to get her to admit it and/or question their friends as well. Jazzy (#75773), Evangelyne (#85644), and 🐾mic🐾 (#59702) are the ones I know for sure have spoken to her and are considered a friend to her.

Noted, we’ll see what we can dig up.

Unfortunately there isn't too much we can do for underage players unless someone has screenshots. We’ll try to find some, but it’s not too likely we can find them without someone submitting them first.