Note: It is important to understand that each army translator translates what the guys say a little differently. Some translate literally what they say while others do it in a way that is understandable to the reader in the language they are translating.
Love your blog ♥️ I'm sorry if you already talked about this, but I've been reading some things by k-army about how Jikook is such an atypical hyung-dongseang relationship, and I was wondering what were the most glaring examples of that? I can see the tension, and the big moments, but doesn't Jungkook take care of all his hyungs? What counts as boundary crossing here? Sorry if it's a common question!
Hi! So first, I just want to say that I'm sorry for taking literally forever to answer this. Im sure you probably thought I wasn't going to. But I was just sitting on how I wanted to answer this. Then I got super busy. Then I got covid. Now i still have covid, but I'm going to answer it anyway. Lol but yall please be a little more forgiving if I'm a little more rambling. I'm still a bit all over the place. And this question is a tad bit irritating, not because of you anon, but because I can't tell you how many DMs I get over "JK takes care of and baby's all his hyungs, why do jikookers act like it's different" and then the circles those conversations take when they don't like what I say 😅 so it'll maybe be nice to just pin this on my masterlist for the future.
So I think a lot of what irks me about this question from most people, is that they confuse what acting like a hyung means. Of course JK loves and takes care of all his hyungs, but he does not act like the hyung to all of his hyungs. He often takes care of them as their dongsaeng and as someone who loves them. But he doesn't act like their hyung. You type JK acting like the hyung on YouTube and you get a variety of videos that, just aren't it. And if we solely focus on OT7 videos and not cringey ship analysis videos, it's not as bad, but a more apt title would be JK being sweet to his hyungs. Not JK acting like the hyung to BTS.... For example, you get OT7 videos like this. (Which please let me say, nothing against these videos I particular, the titles just irk me a bit but otherwise they are honestly super cute little compilations of JK with his hyungs and loving on them. Super cute and worth watching regardless for sure!!)
And very little of these 13 minute long videos each actually include moments of Jungkook acting like the hyung of the group.... some moments. Sure! Part of me would be interested to see which moments you think qualify or not. Lol but the very few moments that I would say qualify as hyung like behavior in these particular videos, come up with Jimin. But not even all the jikook moments in these videos are what I would call hyung behavior from JK either, just a few of them. People look at moments like "aww JK cooked for Tae" as a hyung moment (JK was being a good maknae and cooking for his hyung after he was asked multiple times and told to do it. Very sweet, very touching, but would fall more under sweet chef maknae behavior and not caring older hyung behavior). Or "JK was speaking so fondly and praising Suga so much about who he is" as a hyung moment (JK was speaking earnestly about his hyung and the things he loves about him. That's not hyung behavior, just sweet behavior about a person he is close to). Or "JK took charge and told Hobi what to do for directions in the car" as hyung behavior. (JK made sure they didn't get lost as the person in the navigation seat and got a little frustrated over it all. That's not scolding hyung behavior, that's just team work and driving frustration lol). Feeding each other is also not necessarily hyung behavior either. Etc. A lot of it also depends on context (something the above videos lack a lot of too lol). A lot of people also take instances where JK is mature and supportive of his hyungs as hyung behavior. I think part of that stems from people really insisting on seeing him as the groups baby. So when he takes on a more mature role at times, they say he is acting like the hyung. JK falls very easily into that dongsaeng role with his other hyungs. He listens well, he is willingly babied by them. He let's them push him around for the most part too, outside of jokes and teasing. Comforting, tying shoes, hair ruffles, sleepy cuddles, etc. None of that is what im talking about when I say he wants to be on equal ground with Jimin. He power struggled with jimin ALOT in 2016, in ways he never attempted with anyone else.
JK doesn't seek out an equal ground and equal footing in the power balance of a hyung/dongsaeng relationship like he does with anyone other than Jimin though, and that is where a lot of the difference and "boundary crossing" that makes people sit up and take notice of it comes from. Things that K army take notice of because of the way its atypical of a hyung/dongsaeng relationship. Things like Jimin flat out telling everyone that JK is more than a dongsaeng to him too. Lol things like the total lack of honorifics used between them.
Things like JKs tone of voice used with Jimin. This is an EXCELLENT example of when I say JKs tone of voice isn't typical of a dongsaeng to a hyung. You know what K army called this clip here? JKs boyfriend voice. They also call it his "soft hyung voice." And they used it in their y/n boyfriend romance edits. You know who JK often uses that tone of voice with? Jimin. He doesn't use it with anyone else that we have really seen. Another example of JKs boyfriend voice along with word choice? Particularly the "should I come there right now?" “가줘?” which is not only informal phrasing but it's a type of fondly indulgent speech. It's essentially considered very coupley. Basically being like "I'll do anything for you, babe" type of tone. A better post from @dalloga over that here
Bonus post if you want more soft tones with the way jikook speak to each other lol
Hi Storm! I want to first express how grateful I am, as a relatively new ARMY, to come across your blog. You are a really valuable voice in
Which can lead us straight into the way that Jikook mess with honorifics and speech with the way they talk to each other. The either go overly formal or very informal when speaking to each other, and they do so either very casually or very flirtiously. Using honorifics to flirt formally, like addressing your boyfriend as Mr. CEO type of flirting, if you catch my drift. That's not a very typical hyung/dongsaeng usage of speech together. Or just dropping the formalities all together. Both types of examples:
Hi! Do you have a compilation of the moments Jungkook calls Jimin just 'Jimin' with no honorifics at all? Those moments were as LOUD for me
Hi storm, I hope you're doing well!
What do you think Jimin was trying to say with "The hyungs might think Jungkook is just my dongsaeng..."
I have seen this thing thousand times and I am so frustrated man. 😑 Whenever in Instagram i come through a post of Jikook uploaded by a non-
And not only that, but you also have the way that JK doesn't just take care of Jimin. But he goes out of his way to try and make Jimins life easier, or also, taking care of Jimins things. Jimin leaving the vlive to go to bed for example, but having to come back for JK to do so. Perhaps JK had the key to Jimins room? Wonder why....
Or just simply carrying all of Jimins things for him. Often. Lol peak another reference to the soft tones in this post too.
Hey,
I was watching an edit of jikook and saw this behind the scene from run bts. I saw this scene before and I always loved the soft tones
Some more good examples of what gives off hyung vibes....
"My hobby is being scolded by Jungkookie" this.... is not typical of a hyung/dongsaeng relationship and it is very indicative of the way that JK is not just a dongsaeng to Jimin. And how he doesn't want to be. This comfort level, this enjoyment. This playing with power. This is acting like the hyung behavior. He does this as jokes with the other members to make them laugh as "lol the bratty maknae" the vibes are different usually with Jimin. More casual and sometimes, more intense.
Another good example of scolding would be in the 2019 New Jersey vlive. He "scolded" Jimin for turning off the vlive and Jimin really had to work for that forgiveness. Idk if you've seen my post for that vlive, but the difference in behavior between jikook and jinkook as both were "in trouble" with JK for turning off vlive is huge. Jin brushes it off with a joke, JK laughs it off. That's his hyung. Jimin though, it's like he expected more consideration from him. Not from a hyung, but rather from an equal partner. He didn't and doesn't "scold" his other hyungs. That post here:
It’s pretty obvious he borrowed jks shirt before Jins live while he was doing his workout.
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This isn't necessarily a power imbalance that I'm trying to show either. It's actually showing how Jimin steps down alot, and allows this hyung like behavior from his dongsaeng, behavior that we don't really see much from JK towards any of the others. Allows himself to be cared for in that way and joked with in that way and just in general, fully taken care of in that way. Like an equal partner. Because Jimin does all these same things for JK, a lot. All the members take care of each other. But this equal footing back and forth and just total.... domesticity, really only exists between jikook. The "boyfriend" voices and the way they care for each other too. JK is incredibly caring, empathetic and loving by nature. So anyone he loves, he is going to extend that love and care towards. So all of his hyungs for sure. But this "hyung energy" is not extended to them the same way it comes out around Jimin at times. And a lot of the times, when he helps or takes care of Jimin, it's simply out of a desire to, it's "you don't need my help, but I want to give it to you anyway." It's an extended effort past what we see with anyone else. And I mean, this is me being somewhat bitchy about it in another response addressing the equality in jikooks relationship together too lol ignore my bitchy tone please 😅🤣
I feel there is no equal relationship between JK and JM , JM still calls him baby in Korean which actually is a word used for an child or of
And I just feel I should end this post with a sweet thread, this one here. Which a friend sent me earlier today. Lol
I'm probably repeating myself a lot lol and I could honestly keep going and give a TON more examples. But I'm out of image and link space. But I do hope this sort of answered you and helped. And I think I explained myself, hopefully my thoughts make sense. Sorry again for taking so long to get back to you, but I did return with a lengthy essay of sorts. So hopefully it makes up for it! Thanks for the ask ❤❤
I hate that I had to spend so much to get this, since it was impossible to snag from Weverse during either sale, but it was totally worth it. It’s frustrating though, to know that Jimin wanted to share it with his fans and so many fans won’t be able to get it. I feel very blessed to be an adult fan who makes my own money and can get the things I want.
Coming home from work to this hoody has made my entire month.
Is anyone else fed up with the fact that you can put merchandise in your cart and begin processing payment, but before payment is processed, the items THAT WERE IN YOUR CART, are somehow sold out?? WTF? How can you sell out of something that is in someone’s cart and reserved awaiting payment??? Then, it’s magically listed on Ebay 20 seconds later for 4-10xs higher in price???
I don’t know about y’all but I fell in love with these boys…then I found my way to their music.
I’m in my 4th decade of life and I’ve never felt so comforted by a band before. Sometimes it feels odd to admit to how much joy they bring me. I mean, I’m old! I’ve been married (and divorced). I have children. I have a PhD and am an academic professional. It’s weird for me to be so enraptured by BTS. Isn’t it?
They brighten my day through their music, their smiles, their laughter, their silliness. They’re real and honest. They love one another and they love their fans.
I just can’t seem to find the words to explain just how much these guys mean to me, especially as a group of 7. They really are a Magic Shop.
Thank you, Bangtan Sonyeondan, for just being there.
Never in all of my (many) years of life did I ever believe I’d fall for a group of guys from Korea. I say guys, not men because they’re younger than me and it seems weird, and not boys because they’re not boys. I’ve been a “boy band” fan since I was young so that was a natural love but BTS is not a boy band - they’re not typical in any manner.
Can’t ever say I imagined myself listening to music in a language I don’t understand, searching for English translations and sometimes romanization so I can attempt to pronounce the words in Korean. Never did I imagine these things.
But these guys - this band- these beautiful angels bring me so much happiness. I work in a stressful, professional job and I have a PhD. Long hours, lots of work but a BTS song or quick video of their crazy antics can relax me, make me laugh and smile, help me space out in THEIR galaxy. It’s incredible and I can honestly say that I’ve never experienced this with a band or musician in the past. What voodoo (I joke) does Jin, Yoongi, Hobi, Joon, Jimin, Tae, and JK possess that makes me feel so content?
They are such a gift to music, the entertainment industry, the world and of course, to ARMY.
Carry on, guys. We love you. I love you. 💜 Thank you for inviting me into your galaxy.
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I feel like this article was a way for Billboard to say, “People can’t stand that a Korean band who sings primarily in Korean can be more loved (MADLY loved) than an English speaking artist.” Jealous much? Get over yourselves.
Maybe if American artists would put as much into connecting with their fan base as BTS and other Korean groups do, they’d have an army that supports them the way that ARMY supports those 7 Normal boys from Korea. Forever ARMY