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Funny you should mention that

Wanna know who said that? Who mentored johnny depp’s lead attorney?

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So, on the one hand I agree – attorneys often get shit for doing their job. But what this kind of fails to acknoledge is that in America we're operating within the jury system. The similarities to the OJ simpson case lay in that emotional manipulation of the jury. I think it's naïve to say twelve legal amateurs would make decisions like these rationally rather than emotionally. Even trained judges – in countries where they're actually the ones making the decisions – will be infuenced by their emotions. When you don't even have those years of legal training emotion is all you have. A good lawyer in such a system knows how to exploit that.

The outcome of the OJ Simpson trial was the result of soddy police work. But the turning points of that trial were things like OJ attempting to put on a glove that wouldn't fit (because it had dried and shrunken) and most importantly when it was revealed that one of the investitators who found the glove was a racist (notably they didn't prove he planted evidence because they didn't have to, that alone blew a big enough hole in his believability) – all of which appealed the jury's emotions. Add to that the fact that all happened to the backdrop of countless murders of black citizens by the LAPD that went unpunished. The narrative at the time was that OJs legal team abused and manipulated the system by using all of these things in their advantage. The reality is that the jury system invites appeal to emotions over appeals to logic because the end goal is, to put iy crassly, to emotionally manipulate twelve random people. Emotional manipulation isn't "hacking the system," it's just the system.

The reason Vasque's shoutout to her mentor feels so distasteful to me in spite of that is that nowadays it is pretty much accepted that Simpson did murder his wife and a young man coming to her aid. So for her to appeal to him is to be proud of having her client also "get away with murder," or rather domestic abuse. It's simply distasteful and shows her callousness on the subject.

The fact that the jury system invites emotional manipulation also doesn't mean defense attorneys are immune to criticism when it comes to their methods. In the case of Depp v Heard Vasques talked about spraying Depp's perfume in the bathroom so as to trigger Heard's PTSD. Vasques then got a friend of hers on the stand and testify that Heard supposedly showed no signs of PTSD after only one consultation, and then diagnose her with histrionic personality disorder on the stand. If there was ever a line to cross, she crossed it here.

It's also important to mention that Adam Waldman, the man behind Depp's team, is the one who leaked the clipped audios to the press – he admitted to it on the stand so this isn't speculation. The smear campaign was at least partly organized by Waldman and it's very unlikely that Vasques didn't know about it. So when we're hating the smear campaign we are hating his legal team. It wasn't "the press" – most bigger news papers were on Heard's side throughout the trial. The smear campaign happened online through bots and clipped audios, and Depps legal team was involved in both of these.

So to conclude, yes, hating defense attorneys who use the tools they have to defend their client is stupid, especially if you're not willing to also acknowledge that it's the system itself is flawed. But there is a still a line that Depp's legal team overstepped and everyone involved can and should be criticised for that.

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Yeah.

I think saying that Depp's lawyers were just "doing their job" is extremely disingenuous.

The main reason people claim "Amber is the real abuser" is because of the edited clips that Adam Waldman spread online with the help of "internet journalists" (aka YouTubers), which like you said, it's something he said on the stand (x)

And I don't have the screenshots right now, but Waldman also made it a habit to harass Amber on Twitter (such as posting pictures of photoshoots she did to "prove" she wasn't abused), as well as Amber's UK lawyer, Jennifer Robinson.

Camille Vasquez also went on to do multiple interviews post-trial, very much feeding the TikTok crowd that labeled her a girlboss feminist and the real-life Elle Woods, reminiscing about her cross-examination of Amber like it was a holiday vacation and how much a "woman's perspective" was needed for Depp's team (x)

She even made a TikTok alongside Mario Lopez (who has his own SA allegations) mocking Amber's testimony (x) The caption of the video even said "Now we can see Aquaman 2". There's no way Vasquez didn't know what she was doing here.

Here's the clip of her giggling about Robert Shapiro being her mentor, talking about how much she admired him, and how she watched the OJ Simpson trial when she was a kid. Now this is just tactless, and you pretty much already said why.

She even said that Amber needs to "grow up and stop being a baby" in one of the documentaries that was made after the trial. (x)

Here's Vasquez happily reacting to a TikTok a woman made imitating her while she was cross-examining Amber (x). On what planet is this considered professional?

And there is so much I could post right now, but the point is that yes, Depp's lawyers didn't just "do their job"; they behaved extremely unprofessionally to help their client continue to abuse his wife, by inviting the general public into doing it too and there's nothing wrong with hating them because they played a giant role in the smear of Amber's name and reputation.

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