It's really uncomfortable to write this, I almost didn't want to post it after having a panic attack within last week which didn't happen in a really long time. Since I didn't want it to reach this point while knowing how those individuals can be. I thought if I stayed silent here they would've left me alone and it been more than 2 years. I've gave them last week their last warning both in Uno’s WC (under my comment) and here. But I’ve found a reblog to one of my post here recently with a different account. Then today, one of their “friends" from Uno's CW started to do it under one of my comment in a total different webtoon.
To explain from the beginning what is actually happening. I've started to read Unordinary around 2017, and I was new around the whole comments section concept and didn't know how some readers could act there. So as anyone who has used it, the reader can write a 'comment/s' and others sadly have the ability to 'reply' whatever they want (unless as far I know if was it FP spoilers in public release, then it would've handle). My average number of 'comment' for a year now per episode is 2 while keeping in mind that there are hundreds in FP episode (sometimes reaches 3K) and thousands in public release.
Obviously the right thing a human being to do is take a hint and just move on from the person you disagree with when it comes to fictional character, right? That's not what keeps happening
So there has been several JIMPS (not the decent John's stan) encouraged by this individual to keep replying to MY comment/s, like at some point 3-4 replies at once, sometimes not even relevant to the main comment and straight up STARTED personal attacks. It reached a point where the sound of notifications freaks me out. At first it was civil discussion, then when the other party didn't make sense with their "argument" and pointed that, they STARTED personal attacks on my character as a real person over a fictional character. I even vaguely mentioned in my post’s tags here mentioning CW harassment so they take a hint, still didn’t work and used it as an “excuse” to continue with their harassment.
This individual is @/izetarion who seems to have a number of different accounts there as well encouraged their friends sometimes to do the same, one of the account is @/Astrades who's the current active stalker and they tried to gaslight me with @/izetarion to believe that's "their friend" and my average 2 comments per episode out of hundreds somehow get rebloged to @/izetarion Tumblr every week which doesn't make any sense since they have to search for it one by one out of hundreds if not thousands. As well, there's someone called @/Dayhascon who went as far as writing wishing me dead. @/Dayhascon started replying weekly to my comments around 2017 and lasted for more than a year.
Then @/izetarion, @/Astrades and others which was encouraged such behavior by @/izetarion's reply under my own comment several times saying stuff to their friends like "I told you, she's ******". At some point they replied 5 minutes or less directly after posting my comment, which is frightening, like they're just waiting for to write a comment so. At first it started as a normal discussion, I found out that their own reply contradict itself; very tiring, a lot of deflection to justify John, saying things didn't happen and taking things that I've written WAY out of context. And even kept trying to dedicate what I should write about John even if it was mentioned by the word in Uno. Sometimes it reaches 70 replies under one of MY comment which is big yikes. At some point there was a discussion here, and ended up with a block, I've forgotten about it, and then discovered recently in GC that they removed the block at some point to stalk me here (I've blocked them after noticing)
Them and their "friends" STARTED to vilify me in my OWN comment as a real person for a fictional character when they didn't know how to reply or when they were ignored over and over to get a reaction. I went to check for their old replies in my comments (under my account) for this post which many old once as evidence since they obsessed in calling me a "liar". Still shaking out of anxiousness after going through it.
I requested from them to leave me alone multiple times, they kept doing it about 2 years with their "friend" @/Astrades who writes the same things like them. They keep replying saying I'm writing "lies" over and over again even about confirmed theories/observations, but the weird thing, an individual wouldn't be cyberstalking someone's else comments and harassing them repeatedly for years till this day over "lies" about a fictional character, right?!. That's disgusting obsession, continuous harassment and thinking they are entitled to harass me in CW since they have access. @/Astrades gloated once about how they didn't reply to me some weeks, like-
And the personal attacks in my comment they keep START saying it while making up things about me which wasn't said or completely out of context. I did try to civilly discuss, I tried to ignore replies for too long, tried to confront them with their stalking under my comment, and even tried to laugh it out. Like when a person gets at some point 30+ replies per one comment or 4 different accounts at once attacking me under MY comment! like they were trying to make me snap because they basically worship a fictional character. And they did make me snap at one point which I'm not proud of though there's an extent to what a REAL person could take.
Last conversation between the two while their “friend” continued.
Note: the hidden in red is hidden (number) since it is FP without spoilers but nothing new
Different "conversations" from different dates
Then there is @/Dayhascon who's at one point replied even with @/izetarion under the same comment
And for what?! For ONE fictional character!
Those individuals seem to not have the ability to differentiate between a fictional character and a real living human being or have empathy towards a real person. Even after disclosing my past abusive relationship which I've survived and helped me in recognising one, but still, the same continues harassment. And they keep to harass RL over a fictional character. After finishing writing this, I realised it is not worth to write comment in CW even if I bought coins for different webtoons; it is not worth keep risk triggering my mental illness condition (already happening) just because individual/s take pleasure in hurting a living human being for a comic character to an extent of using mental illness negatively in fiction to justify some fantasy they have. They likely believe and most likely having the satisfaction of "wining", but I feel better for choosing myself 1st and my mental wellbeing while staying away from those toxic and dangerous individuals.
I really admire Uru’s work, she does put a lot of work especially her writing and can’t imagine the kind of things she secretly likely received/s as a women in this kind of line of work or anywhere. Webtoon was supposed to be for fun in my free time, discuss and theories even when if it includes not liking one fictional character. I did find a safe house here, a safe and supportive small community where many share similar opinions, analysis, theories, reactions with boundaries and option for block when there isn't. But all of what has been happening isn’t worth risking my mental health. I will take a break from posting here for indefinite period of time and focus on what actually matter. I really appreciate all the support. Thank you.
Honesty, I'm seriously rethinking to expose the continues stalking, harassment and misogyny for over a year (some reached 3 years by now) from some JIMPS in Unordinary's Webtoon "community". They have no shame no whatsoever; acting like they have moral high ground while behaving like this. Apparently one of them confessed of having "friends" who's stalking me here this long over a fictional character
Thanks guys for all of your supportive, kind words and advice. I really appreciate it and it shows how amazing most of Uno community here.
I just waited and ignored those individual/s when it comes to talk about it in Tumblr for too long thinking they might get bored with their creepy behavior. Since they admitted last week in WC of stalking me here with a group as well. Guess this is their last warning.
Honesty, I'm seriously rethinking to expose the continues stalking, harassment and misogyny for over a year (some reached 3 years by now) from some JIMPS in Unordinary's Webtoon "community". They have no shame no whatsoever; acting like they have moral high ground while behaving like this. Apparently one of them confessed of having "friends" who's stalking me here this long over a fictional character
Actually, I don't think people realize Evie's strength.
Evie, despite getting beaten up and bullied repeatedly, has tried her best to be kind whenever possible. She has tried to be sweet to people, always trying her best to get through Wellston despite being possibly traumatized. Or maybe it's BECAUSE of that. She chose kindness. And that's not something a lot of victims and survivors can choose. Evie is strong in her own right, don't discredit her just because she's kind and not a stereotypical badass supporting character. This isn't referring to anyone in particular, it's just to combat Evie hatred.
First, welcome back Uru chan, I hope she's doing well. Second, damn, not even inside Wellston is safe (I was right again) and Terrence likely used his ability to sneak into girls dorm to deliver that message. Also I don't think Terrence's group have good intentions or/and beliefs; at least not similar to Unordinary book or vigilante. Not only they were extreme while trying to kidnap Sera, stabbed her, and almost killed Arlo in his sleep if not for Elain (episode 72). Then you have this guy (Arlo and Sera concluded he's/they're mid-tier) who said ...
It seems like this group who disabled Sera doesn't actually sympathise with low tiers or even belive in equality. More like they want to be on the top by using powerful people even if it meant killing high school students, use and dispose of other people like this guy.
Interesting, Cecile and Arlo have similar characteristics. Still wonder about his and Sera's beef with her, it was implied something happened 2 years ago. No way it's only because of her ambitious personality, that's would be sexist.
It seems like the reason for Sera's suspension was kept a secret from other students. Makes sense but it's still weird for backgrounds character not questioning why no.1 was suspended at the time.
I was about to delete this entire essay because most people seemed to get it after Chapter 204, but, I saw some discussion that were accusing Sera of being a toxic friend (guess where) , so just to make sure :)
I saw some comments saying that John brutalized the school because of Sera and that if it wasn’t for John, Sera would still be a cold and stressed out perfectionist. They said that Sera was selfish and didn’t care about John’s feelings.
Yes, John did taught her how to value herself and her mental health, but stop acting like John being friends with Sera didn’t benefit him either. She protected him from bullies and other dangers and made John feel safe. We now know that John was a god-tier all along, but back then he was still playing his cripple persona. Isn’t that why it was so important to Arlo to get Sera out of Wellston when he wanted to betray John?
Also, Sera is under no obligation to fix John. She just found out that her closest friend lied to her for years. She has a right to be upset. She has a right to focus on herself and collect her thoughts. She has a right to not stay friends with a liar.
She tried to talk to him. She asked him what was wrong and wanted to help fix it. This isn’t someone who,’ didn’t care about John’s feelings ’. Sera tried to help, she really did. I know that John had his reasons for blowing up, but that does not change how hurt and disappointed Sera was when instead of admitting his faults, he started screaming at her and blaming everyone else for the pain he caused. He started grabbing her and became increasingly violent to the point where he threaten to beat her up. Let that sink in. It was very likely that John was about to hurt Sera if she didn’t have Arlo on standby. And y'all have the nerve to say Sera was the insensitive one here?
Lastly, when did Sera ever said or implied that she wanted the whole school to suffer with her? John’s rampage might be triggered with Sera losing powers and getting bullied, but his reasons became more selfish and petty to the point where he’s blaming Sera for the mess the caused. Even if he really did it for Sera, so what? Did he stop the bullying in Wellston? Did he make Sera’s life easier by brutalizing those kids? Did he even, ‘destroy the hierarchy’? No. He was willing to throw an entire school into chaos, just so he, and Sera to an extent, could find peace. That isn’t ‘’ sweet ‘’ or ‘’ thoughtful ‘’ , it’s selfish.
Basically, stop blaming everyone else for John’s mistakes. Sera isn’t my favourite character, but she is changing for the better, and she’s definitely being a better person than John rn.
THIS, many also forget the fact that HairGel!John was the one to influence Sera to skip class and drop her position as queen Remi ended up doing it as favor to Sera while keeping her privileges, her not being perfectionist was more of unintended happy accident to Sera. In other words, doing whatever she wants like John did/does because he could/can. What's more messed up, Real!John later beaten up Remi within an inch of her life for a title she had for one semester and not being selfless more, as a result of HairGel!John’s own hypocritic influence since the other option would've been Cecile.
if zeke plays his cards right he could totally turn john against whoever he likes and get all the power for himself but i know he won’t because he’s a pussy
OMG, just realised that Zeke's position with current no.1 (Real!John) is the same back then with Fake!John and past no.1 (Sera). Both had/have some type of influence on the other one and were full of lies. It would explain why Uru made Zeke stay around for this long; parallel between the two. It's interesting too, one of them, most readers justify and ignore while with the other, had/has a disgust reaction. When both should have the same reaction. Now that's hypocrisy LOL
Some people have been saying that Wellston doesn’t deserve a Safe House, and I’m here to debate that, so strap in.
The main reason of this opposition towards the Safe House is that it’s unfair for the people who have been making John’s life a living hell, suddenly gets to hide behind the Safe House when John finally snaps. There is also the issue with them accusing the Royals of being ‘hypocrites’ and such, but quite a lot of people have already debunked that, so I’ll only touch on that briefly.
My problem with this argument is, first, generalising. You’re assuming that everyone who attends the Safe House is a bully, an enemy of John. You’re assuming that everyone who wants to hide from John is a hypocritical jerk. NO.
The victims in this situation are the low-tiers, who already had it bad enough, hiding from mid-tiers and high-tiers and just trying to get through high school without being permanently crippled. These people, unlike John, wasn’t secretly a god-tier, and didn’t have powers to back them up. You saw what happened to the people who tried to stand up to god-tiers (see : Claire’s “betrayal”).
They deserve a Safe House. They deserve to feel safe after all those years of living in fear and being discriminated. Saying they don’t minimizes the pain and damage they have suffered because of the unjust system. I understand that John needs help but he shouldn’t drag down innocent people just because of his trauma and past. it’s unfair as most low-tiers never did anything to him. Do I believe that trash like Zeke deserves a safe house ? No. Unless they regret their actions and faces the consequences, they are still guilty of taking part in the destruction of Wellston. But these are individuals. One person, and only these people should face the consequences of their actions. Not innocent low-tiers or even mid-tiers that just want live their life safely.
Now, for the criticism aimed towards the Royals.
A. The Safe House is not made for the Royals and they do not control the people in there. They are simply supervising and protecting it. They allow the low-tiers and mid-tiers to do what they want as long as they don’t bother anyone else.
B. Remi and Blyke knows the Safe House’s not going to fix everything, but it’s a step towards the right direction.
C. The Royals know they’re part of the problem ( see : here ) , and are trying to improve.
@ nickellovesanime wanted to reblog but couldn’t hide the spoilers and glad someone is writing about Blyek.
You have many valid points and agree with many. There is a parallel between John and Blyke in a reverse kinda of way. Wherein John actions/decisions when you look at his intentions; they were/are selfish while the opposite with Blyke’s which were/are selfless (protecting friends/school). I thought at the beginning that Blyke's arc was his your traditional shōnen hero origin story vs John’s villain origin story. But after acquiring the amplifiers pills, it seems to be a build up like a pressure cooker in order for him sadly use the amplifier too many death flags damn it. Remember in episode 202 Blyke didn't tell Isen and Remi about his nightmare of them getting killed by John (episode 160)? I know it’s not something easy to tell anyone, which made him start training mainly out of fear for his friends' life. Then in episode 207 Isen was dismissive towards Blyke's feelings and downplayed it, I don't know about you, but I would've been really upset too if my friend did that.
I've read somewhere in one of YouTube videos comments about a parallel between John's alleged real name 'John Doe' and Blyke's vigilante name 'nobody' since both refers to anonymous. Furthermore, Blyke is an open book (Sera's words), has a strong relationship with his friends and loyal, actually put himself on the line including his life to protect them using all what he has, and they have the closest to a healthy relationship in Uno world. On the other hand, HairGel!John (who was fake AF), has the only canon toxic and abusive friendship in Uno world (more than one if you counted NB). John didn't/wouldn't actually protect Sera with what he had (only beating up students behind her back after the fact). As well as, prioritizing going to beat up the once who tried/kidnapped Sera over securing her safety first in both episodes 73 and 130 (Arlo called him out about it in episode 74).
Right now, it’s logical for Blyke to believe that dethroning John would make him lose authority, but not on the long run as a result of his character trait of being impulsive and the train chain of events and considering John is forcing himself at the ex-royals he's basically a stalker. And as you said, Blyke became desperate to protect his friends and the school as “his responsibilities”. However, Blyke’s “responsibilities” was supposed to be back then when he was a royal, not now. It might due his outside trips after seeing what happens in low tiers districts, which again shows how selfless he’s.
John spent 4 episodes (192, 193, 194, 200) trying to destroy the safe house using his 3rd new errand boy Zeke and his followers. Meaning the outcome was already set, like what some expected to happen if Zeke successfully brought a list of students who's mostly low tiers like Evie and Roland?! give them presents!. What Zeke said to John in episode 204 wouldn't change what he already been doing (mostly terrorising low tiers more who are attending the Safe House). And what Zeke said will be used by Kim John Um as an "excuse" later on to "justify" like how he always does.
Sera's conclusion was wrong here. She has a past pattern of having wrong conclusions which's fine since it's just speculations. But this one ain't looking good, sends a wrong message and very problematic, since it's based on not believing victim of abuse; Claire; John's abuse victim. 1. Claire spend 5 episodes (181-185) pouring her heart out to a total stranger. 2. Sera then concluded with "My guess, New Bostin the final interaction between him and Claire" which's false since Keon showed John when he lied about his friends "betraying him" an older memory in episode 104 of him enjoying beating students from another school half to death for fun by choice (implying Sera getting betrayed by John was her choice which's victim blaming). 3. Sera was told by Claire in episode 184 which's the SAME memory from episode 104 with more context of John lying, betraying and abusing both of his friends who tried to stop him. 4. Sera knows now that John isn't to be trusted as a friend neither in NB and Wellston. 5. Sera saying "Claire was John's closest friend in NB" when he had Adrion AKA childhood friend who defended and stayed beside him till the end after all the abuse. Then said "a betrayal by person you believed in the most" That's doesn't apply on John considering he did use, and abused Claire, then lied to her about stopping hurting people, and looked down on her because she was low tier. It might be applied on Claire since she still tried talking to John while believing he might listen. My best guess out of trust in Uru chan that Sera's wrong conclusion (or having one about John) is to show she's not a bad friend who didn't try tho he kept hurting her both physically and mentally. And since Sera was bashed for it in webtoon comments section and literally every female character who used as an object without feelings.
It’s been a while since I’ve written a meta. This can be considered a continuation to others attached at the end.
After the random reveal in episode 178 that Arlo has an aunt who now got conformed to be Volcan, Though I get it, it makes sense for a story setting in order to make Arlo lose faith in their current system in more convincing way. The theory of her being John’s mother got weird after that reveal and unlikely to happen since this story isn’t a makjang LOL. Who knows
On the other hand, there are no denying the numerous parallels whether between characters, events, and/or inside and outside Wellston. Like with both Sera’s kidnaping which reveal many clues. That’s another whole post for another day.
The easiest and most obvious similarity between John and Valerie is having an alias to hide their horrific actions; Joker and Volcan.
Both display different personality and attitude in front the once they claim to care for, and ironically both Sera and Arlo were raised the same way as god/high-tiers. John and Valerie lack remorse, empathy and blame others for their misfortune, they’re are very manipulative; in case of John he reaches the extent of gaslighting Sera to trust him and believe in certain narratives. While in Valerie’s case she manipulated Arlo by trying to make him believe that she's/authority are the “good guy” which’s also what John tried to make Sera believe. Both Valerie and John want to keep their privilege as high-tiers and look down on low tiers. Both Sera and Arlo belived/s their lies out of trust, only type of relationship is different.
Tw// stabbing
Both won’t hesitate to attempt murder outside Wellston’s school, it’s no coincidence to have similar act of stabbing with same sound effect and background. In John’s case he was close too many times in murdering someone.
Both Valerie and John talked crap about Rei to Remi, who almost got ended by both as well.
Valerie has the outside world top authority covering up for her while John has Wellston’s top authority/headmaster covering up for him. Notice how John only fine and uses certain authority when its benefit him like back in NB and now in Wellston.
And finally, the way Sera looked up for 2 years, idolised and believed in fake!John before discovering all the lies, manipulation and having a mental breakdown. This would be a foreshadowing to Arlo discovering a family member, who he looks up to since he was a kid is a cold-blooded murder and killed someone he cares about.
Interesting, we know that Volcan came there with fiery claws and attacked Remi, while thinking she’s selling drugs and not for a fight. My best guess Valerie copied Arlo’s ability at the time in addition to another one, that’s why it appeared to him as ‘variation’. It’s unlikely she can copy abilities only through drugs. It’s confusing, no wonder why Remi didn’t tell Arlo right away without being 100% sure.
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