Black moon lilith prominent in a male's astrology natal chart (just an observation)
So basically from what i've observe I've seen men with black moon lilith prominent in their charts is usually like very attractive but they have a mix of that "scared of women" or "good guy" type of look. I don't know it's kinda hard to describe but i will use some famous people for an example
PewDiePie have his mean black moon lilith (h12) conjunct his sun and he has a attractive appearance, but he also have that mix of a "good guy" type of physical appearance.
Pewdiepie also have his true osculating black moon lilith (h13) conjunct his mercury now this just make sense because he said some offensive jokes and offensive words (which i don't support or agree with him).
(If you are a guy with black moon lilith (h12) or (h13) prominent in your chart please tell me if this resonates with you or not because i don't want my astrology observation to be wrong)
If you want to know more about what your friends may gossip about you check your ascendant, (the 11th house rules over friends, and the 3rd house rules over gossip, counting 2 houses from the 11th house since we used it as our rising it will fall directly on the ascendant).
๐๐๐๐๐/๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (๐,๐๐,๐๐) ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐: They may believe that you are quite rebellious, bold, very confident, outgoing and active, you may also be sporty, energetic, masculine (even if youโre a woman) hotheaded and maybe you have a foul mouth!, sorry not sorry, but they feel like you cuss a-lot and give no care to anything other than yourself, they may feel that your a bit selfish, aggressive/impulsive or immature sometimes, but at the same time you are a go getter, and you may be the reason your friend group is always winning!.
๐๐๐๐๐๐/๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (๐,๐๐,๐๐) ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐: You may be known to have a charming voice, they may say something about the way you sing or talk (positive or negative depends on the aspects), your food or your taste in general, your wealth and financial status, they say that you have strong values and morals, you are quite pretty and dependable, also very chill and relaxed maybe even lazy, patient, possessive and stubborn!.
๐๐๐๐๐๐/๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (๐,๐๐,๐๐) ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐: Youโre quite intelligent and playful, they may speak about the languages you learned or your school education, your car or transportation you take, even your neighborhood and the place you live in, the community youโre from, they may say that you are witty, playful, multi talented, very curious adaptable and strong minded, and comical, you have a very interesting sense of humor that not many understand also quite youthful and maybe maybe nosy๐๐ปโโ๏ธ.
๐๐๐๐๐๐/๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (๐,๐๐,๐๐) ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐: They may speak about your roots, home, your mother, your kids, your house, the goods you bake or food you make, they say that you are emotionally intelligent, you may be known for being quite feminine, sensitive and even being a crybaby who shows their emotions a-lot, you are quite cautious and sensitive to energies around you, your are known for being defensive and family oriented!.
๐๐๐/๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (๐,๐๐,๐๐) ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐: They may speak about your hair, your art and your confidence, they speak about your short term lovers, places you like to go to, and maybe even your fame!, you are gossiped about a-lot, but your are known for being loyal, very very creative, a bit dramatic and very prideful.
๐๐๐๐๐/๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (๐,๐๐) ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐: They gossip about your health, physique, mental health, your daily routine, the books you read, youโr writing, your pets!, youโre known for being a bit critical, (also their gossip is more about criticism) humble, overthinking, very perfectionist, analytical, logical and judgmental, also they may speak about your job.
๐๐๐๐๐/๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (๐,๐๐) ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐: They may say that you are very romantic, a lovesick person, very attractive too, they talk about your partners/spouse, your business, your fashion style, and your choice of clothes, they also may say that youโre a bit indecisive and canโt make a choice!.
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐/๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (๐,๐๐) ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐: They hardly find things to gossip about you, but be careful because most of those who gossip are your enemies in hiding because their gossip stems from jealousy and envy, so be carful and donโt share your secrets with just anyone you call a friend, they may use them against you and they canโt stay hidden for long, (having gemini on 8th house basically adds to this theory) your secrets may be used as a source of gossip, your sexual lifestyle, money, deaths in your family, but at the same time they may say that you are loyal, powerful, brave and have a very strong mindset, mysterious and seductive, very secretive, obsessive or controlling or manipulative!.
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐/๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (๐,๐๐) ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐: They say you are lucky!, they may speak about your religion, higher education, the family of your future spouse, the adventurous you make, even places where you travel, you are known for being very humorous, also knowledgeable/wise/philosophical, successful, wealthy and honest, the negative side is that they may say that you are a bit unreliable, arrogant, and honest/blunt/straightforward.
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐/๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (๐๐,๐๐) ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐: Man they speak about you so openly, and their gossip may easily affect your reputation, but they respect you a lot at the same time, they speak about your job, the hardships you went through, your responsibilities, your father and your career in general, you are mature, and you have a very strong work ethic, just like the scorpio AC people may actually fear talking about you, they talk about your social status, your success, they also say youโre a bit detached, cold, hardworking, you have a one track mind!, a bit anxious but at the same time self disciplined.
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐/๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (๐๐,๐๐) ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐: now now now, this is a bit funny but your friends speak about the Friends you have!, they may speak about your wealth too, usually Aquarius AC tend to be care about their social media accounts very much so they may talk about you on social media, the type to screenshot your instagram stories for example and take them as gossip material (you may not relate to this if you have strong 4th,8th,12th house placements, or being a moon/pluto dominant since you'll be more private!.) they may say that you're very friendly, clever, weird, very independent and quite unique unpredictable, and rebellious.
๐๐๐๐๐๐/๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (๐๐,๐๐) ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐: You may want to read the first 2 lines from the scorpio AC one, now they may talk about your past, your spiritual side, and yes they gossip about your secrets, but you are known for being sensitive, idealistic/delusional, creative and inspiring, hypnotic, very charming and sensitive like a siren!.
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โ this post centres around pisces, neptune and the twelfth house, and how it is an underrated home of fame.
โ neptune rules over cameras, glamour, paparazzi, stalking, projection and film, all strong themes of the realer side of fame, specifically paparazzi, stalking and projection.
โ [in my opinion, i think the 12H, Neptune and Pisces are the most alike compared to the other signs and their rulers.]
โ on the other hand, ten houses from the 3H is the 12H, 10 in astrology ruling over fame, career and publicity and the 3H governs over magazine and marketing, things celebrities have to be involved in to attain fame.
โ to understand this post, we need to get into the symbolism of pisces, and hold on tight for this for you to understand! as pisces does represent neptune/poseidon, the sign pisces also represents is Jesus. the most known man, the most known person specifically.
โ and even though social media does joke about it now and then, he is the most known "nepotism" kid. people with pisces placements especially in their big three or those who have jupiter in pisces are known for something specific, because Pisces gives it a boost because of the connection it has with Jupiter. [in traditional astrology, Jupiter ruled over Pisces], and Jupiter is supposed to symbolise God. and in shorter terms, it gives the nepotism boost to Pisces.
โ before i go deeper, i am going to use examples of celebrities, their twelfth house and how fame was for them and how it impacted them.
CELEBRITIES WITH PISCES IN THEIR BIG THREE OR JUPITER. [can work with the rest of the big six, but im focusing on the big three].
โถ examples
PISCES ASCENDANTS โฌ
MICHAEL JACKON.
WHITNEY HOUSTON
ELLEN.
PISCES SUNS โฌ
RIHANNA.
CINDY CRAWFORD.
GRIMES.
PISCES MOONS โฌ
MICHELLE OBAMA.
MARTIN LUTHER KING.
KIM KARDASHIAN.
PISCES JUPITER โฌ
MEGAN FOX.
AMBER HEARD.
LINDSAY LOHAN.
SHORT EXAMPLES OF THE 12H AND ITS IMPACT WITH SOMEONE'S FAME โฌ
MARILYN MONROE
had cancer in the 12H, cancer is moon ruled and the moon rules over audience, and its clear that marilyn monroe had a big audience, like the moon, she was worshiped, and due to hollywood, she represented what a woman, "should be".
marilyn also had pluto in the twelfth house, and this points to her being exploited, sexualised and abused in the industry.
her twelfth house ruler is in the seventh house which conjuncts the moon, and she had a known relationship, [jupiter conjunct moon], this insinuates her known relationship was with a man in power, the moon symbolises country and jupiter can symbolise politics and leader-ship, and she had a known affair with JF Kennedy.
BEYONCE
had virgo in her twelfth house, and people always have continuous critique with her, this can also imply she has much critique for herself, but with her twelfth house having the planet jupiter, it helps her having a giant and loyal fanbase.
beyonce also has saturn in the 12h, and this implies of longevity in fame, saturn doesnt always mean something is going to be cut short! on the other hand, her 12H ruler being in the 12H can point to the distant energy she has with her, she could have fun with her fans but there is still an out of reach essence she has to herself.
the 12H ruler being in the 12H can also indicate to why people might've picked up that she might be doing drugs. this could also insinuate another way of how people are nit-picky when it comes to beyonce.
on the other hand, her 12H ruler being in the 12H shows she only shows a part of herself she wants people to see.
MICHAEL JACKSON
aquarius in the twelfth house, and was known to be erratic and unique, he also used his platform to spread awareness.
his 12H ruler being in Leo points to his excessive amount of fame, the uranus being in leo implies on how he was known everyone where in the world. his uranus in the 13ยฐ, a degree which means the first to do something; which conjuncts venus the planet of dancing insinuates of his creation of the moonwalk.
his uranus is also in the sign of children, and had many controversies surrounding kids. [along with people thinking his children arent his].
with his 12H ruler being in Leo, the house of cameras and glamours, points to how he is one of the most photographed people on earth.
ARIANA GRANDE
sagittarius in the 12H, known for her adaptability in different cultures, the jupiter influence gives her a very big fanbase.
12H ruler in libra and is known for her romantic controversies, with her Jupiter having. the 5ยฐ which shows they're known in the industry they're specifically in. her jupiter also conj moon in the 6th degree, and people critique her love life and it is always in the public, the moon ruling audience.
12H sagittarius in the 2 degrees, and is known for her aesthetic.
RIHANNA
12H in pisces and is known for her glamour, beauty and fashion.
venus is in the 12H and she is a muse for many people.
juno in the 12H and she was paired with many people, so many people expecting who and what to be her husband, though everyone was aware with who her soulmate was. asap rocky.
12H ruler in capricorn and is known for being a capitalist, rich and business oriented.
another 12H ruler in aries, and has a known controversy with the abuse she had suffered through by chris brown.
12H ruler in aries conj uranus and was known for her fierceness and come backs.
MEGAN THEE STALLION
12H aries and is known for her "sexiness" and rapping. her 12H ruler is in Leo and is known for her sexual dancing, specifically twerking, and her body shape is usually spoken about
her 12H ruler is mars and went through a scandal that involved violence, and with the 12H ruler being in the 21st degree, it entails of her being known for being a stallion, along with her jupiter in sagittarius.
neptune in the 24th degree and a lot of people think she is a liar, and i noticed a lot of people who have their 12H ruler conjunct the moon do get famous.
KRISTINA PIMENOVA
taurus in her 12H and was known for her beauty, she also has mars in her 12H and was really pushed into the industry.
12H ruler in the 1st degree and was pushed as the most beautiful girl. her neptune is in the 10H and a a lot of people wanted to be her because of her status and looks.
12H in a young sign could imply getting into the industry at a young age. she also has mars in taurus in the 12H and is also known for dancing.
MADISON BEER
12H in aries and is known for her sexiness. and her 12H ruler is in scorpio and she had plenty of controversies.
saturn in the 12H it took time for people to appreciate her music. her saturn is also in taurus.
11H in pisces in aqua 3rd degree, and had much people make rumours about her.
12H ruler in mars the 11th degree and had revenge porn against her, or you can say just had people expose her nudes.
pisces in the 11H and many people on the internet project their insecurities onto her.
DRAKE
leo in 12H and he is known for his ego, his 12h ruler conj pluto and a lot of people talk about his sexuality.
neptune in capricorn got into more fame due to a popular company, yung money. he has a pisces jupiter and is known for his multiple times to have a wife, he has proposed many times he was able to make a necklace out of them.
12th degree on his moon and is known as an incel. he has his neptune in the 3rd degree and a lot of people make fun of him.
12H PLACEMENTS โฌ
PISCES/NEPTUNE IN THE 12H - known for music, could get a lot of stalkers, people might have a perception of who you are supposed to be and could be known for taking a specific drug, like weed; ex, rihanna.
ARIES/MARS IN THE 12H - known for their sexuality, could be bullied on social media, might get access to fame easily, but could be objectified; ex, madison beer.
TAURUS/VENUS IN THE 12H - known for your beauty, might feel like people might not take you seriously, people could be shallow towards you, you could have a less intense celebrity life; ex, kristina pimenova.
GEMINI/MERCURY IN THE 12H - could be known for your adaptability, many people might want to mimic you, could be photographed a lot and known for your style; ex, cher.
CANCER/MOON IN THE 12H - could hide their true identity to the world, is the face for something, likes privacy but are never given it; ex, marilyn monroe.
LEO/SUN IN THE 12H - easily stand out, seen as a trendsetter, are known for their beauty, people might compare themselves to you all the time; ex, bella hadid.
VIRGO/CERES IN THE 12H - people will be critical of you, nosy about your life, though you would be a big muse and inspiration for the people, majority of 12H dont like attention or responsibility due to the gain of fame; ex, doja cat.
LIBRA/JUNO IN THE 12H - people will really copy your aesthetic, most likely to be posted on social medias like pinterests and tumblr. very photogenic people, untouchable energy, which could be linked to the hera influenced; ex, lily rose.
SCORPIO/PLUTO IN THE 12H - are usually the face for something, stalked by everyone, specifically the paparazzi, could sometimes be harassed by people for not acting how they were expected to behave. have a lot of influence, they do something other people start doing it; ex, jennie kim and princess diana.
SAGITTARIUS/JUPITER IN THE 12H - have very large fan bases, are expected to be role models, have to find a specific way to sustain their popularity, and other people might want to relate to them and get upset if they cant; ex, kylie jenner.
CAPRICORN/SATURN IN THE 12H - fame can either come really quick to people with capricorn or saturn in the 12H or it could take its time. how they handle fame is their karma, could be preyed on by authority, and when they pass, they become legends and known for something specific; ex, aaliyah.
AQUARIUS/URANUS IN THE 12H - known globally, get away with a lot of stuff, known for their visuals plus aesthetic since it is unique, they have a lot of controversies revolving around love, and might feel like they cannot get away from fame; ex, michael jackson.
YOUR FAME DUE TO WHERE PISCES AND NEPTUNE IS IN YOUR CHART โฌ
PISCES/NEPTUNE IN THE 1H - fame for being beautiful, creative, and would feel distant and would have a lot of people project and fantasise about you; ex, michael jackson a pisces ascendant, and ariana grande who has neptune in the 1H.
PISCES/NEPTUNE IN THE 2H - fame due to singing, fame for being beautiful of their aesthetic, have ways of always making money and has controversy with lovers; ex, megan fox has pisces in her 2H, and lana del rey who has neptune in her 2H.
PISCES/NEPTUNE IN THE 3H - known for their creative ideas, good writers, could have a popular relative or is the popular relative, and another musician indicator. could also be known for their philosophy; ex, jeon jungkook has his pisces in his 3H, and beyonce who has her neptune in the 3H.
PISCES/NEPTUNE IN THE 4H - famous family, controversy with family/marriage, do a project that can set them for life and could be in a famous group; ex, kim kardashian who has pisces in the 4H, and emma watson who has neptune in the 4H.
PISCES/NEPTUNE IN THE 5H - get very popular because of their looks, usually have kids within their rise to fame, can tap into anything creative and succeed. brilliant actors and actresses have these placements; ex, nicolae kidman who has pisces in the 5H, and angelina jolie who has neptune in the 5H.
PISCES/NEPTUNE IN THE 6H - amazing producers [music and film], are known for their interaction with drugs or people might have conspiracies with them taking drugs, health issues are put onto blast and usually stand out in a project that has many people and are usually the main character; ex, britney spears who has pisces in the 6H, and kanye west who has neptune in the 6H.
PISCES/NEPTUNE IN THE 7H - like to please their fans, controversy with marriage, be careful with deals/contracts that you would sign, sometimes other people might think you are distant and you guys are likely to have iconic fashion moments; ex, bella hadid who has pisces in the 7H, and mariah carey who has neptune in the 7H.
PISCES/NEPTUNE IN THE 8H - usually leave a big legacy, victim/subject to memes, or being made fun of by people in the industry, tough relationship with addiction and have a big fandom which can make them excused a lot; ex, marilyn monroe who has pisces in the 8H, and michael jackson who has neptune in the 8H.
PISCES/NEPTUNE IN THE 9H - loved due to their charisma, loud and big personalities, partake in business all over the world and are wanted by foreign companies, and have a moment when they're under fire due to the public; ex, angelina jolie who has pisces in the 9H, and rihanna who has neptune in the 9H.
PISCES/NETPUNE IN THE 10H - likely to be models, have contracts with big brands, many people look up to them and have much expectations for them, could also be people who are in political power or are connected to them; ex, victoria beckham who has pisces in the 10H, and princess diana who has neptune in the 10H.
PISCES/NEPTUNE IN THE 11H - are usually easily excused, famous due to a private circle [political power on theories like illuminati], usually say things they are not meant to say, can either be easily liked or hated by the public and this can give online fame, or could get famous because of the internet; ex, miley cyrus who has pisces in the 11H, and billie eilish who has neptune in the 11H.
PISCES/NETPUNE IN THE 12H - people usually want to be them, long-term fame, another model indicator, and can be people who get into relationships with people who are known in the industry; ex, gigi hadid who has pisces in the 12H, and zendaya who has neptune in the 12H.
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