For some reason, I really don’t like that kind of outcome at all. I understand that, based on Season 4 and Project Nina, we clearly have distortion of reality, altered memories, and false perceptions, but if the entire meaning of the series comes down to Mike losing his mind or somehow creating his own reality, then for me that completely devalues everything. And if he’s the “Dungeon Master,” then why can’t he create a happy ending for himself? What is the point of that kind of interpretation of the series, and what does it actually give the viewer?
I might be losing it, but I'm pretty sure "Lucas on the Line" is calling the last day before spring break April 4th rather than March 21st. Which would put Roller Rink and Nancy talking to Eddie's uncle on April 5th rather than March 22nd.
So is the book wrong, or the show wrong? Either way, something's off, and Will and Mike's birthdays (Mike's is April 7th) are right in the centre of it.
And Eleven and her are the same person: Sara Hopper
And I'll try to make a case for BOTH of them (Eleven and Max) being part of Tharizdun 🌀
(You can read my original post on my twitter thread, I put more images and details for an easier read there)
(This is assuming you know about Tharizdun theory so go read that if you don't know the context)
There's a common factor between El, Will and Hopper's deceased daughter Sara which are the Tiger and Clown imagery
And who's associated with tigers? Max 🐅 (Here she breaks the 4th wall like the tiger in the poster at Mike's basement)
And the colors in this poster of Tales of 85' (Red and Yellow like their raincoats) are the exact same for Max and El (and kinda matching with Will's)
There's also a teddy bear next to the tiger poster, and bears are related to both Will and El as we all know from season 3 (though the exact meaning is lost to me)
If you mix both these colors, Red and Yellow, you get Orange
And both Max and El have been associated with ghosts,
almost like... they are the same person? The ghost of Sara Hopper?
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Or so it's subtextually implied when Eleven scares Hopper when she disguises herself for Halloween.
And when Lucas, who remember, is a Ranger in DnD, clocks that Max is "Like a ghost"
In DnD, Rangers have this unique ability named "Primeval Awareness" that allows them to detect the supernatural enemy, including spirits/undead.
And why Sara Hopper? Because she died from Agent Orange
And Max, she is a personification of Agent Orange, what killed Sarah, not just because her hair is literally orange, but because:
In her Vecna vision of the Snow Ball the room momentarily turns orange before it turns blue and dead like the Upside Down.
This orange tint is a representation of the sickness, (the "supernatural cancer" as was described in the Montauk Pilot) that invaded Sara.
We get a shot of some dead flowers and ashes in the air that parallel the ashes and dead flowers that Eleven picks up in the final scene of Season 4's finale (As well as the red electric storm).
So how does Tharizdun play into this? For starters, as Max's introductory song would hint to you, she is a "Hurricane" 🌪
Which in Chaos Theory is an example of what results of a butterfly's flapping of its wings 🦋 A slight alteration in time turned into a big catastrophic event.
And a Hurricane is represented as a spiral 🌀, Tharizdun's symbol.
And what does the spiral 🌀 look like? 69
Lay 69 on its side and it's: ♋, the symbol for the Zodiac Sign of Cancer, Agent Orange.
And the other symbol for Cancer? A crab 🦀 which Max has in her brooch in her Camazotz outfit
Now I don't believe Lucas is under Tharizdun's influence, I think that if he is 'the traitor' that he's doing it out of genuine love and devotion to Max. He is her prince/knight after all (as they parallel Sleeping Beauty)
Sara's name means Princess and Max is "Princess Daphne" from the Dragon's Lair game.
As Max would be the part of Sara that was infected with Agent Orange, so maybe if the timeline is 'fixed', she would fuse with El and disappear?
That would give him a strong reason to become 'the traitor'
Anyways that's it. The conclusion I'm reaching is that potentially WillEl (as I have a theory post about them being twins) and Max are related, and Max and El are both part of Tharizdun, the same person, Sara Hopper
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