You said that you didn't want to go deep.
yes i now feel better to talk about the deeper stuff now! so let's get into it! for those of you that are just joining us, please read [this post] for context, this will be a continuation of that post as i said in there that there are other ways that you can see the spouse archetype in someone's chart, but i only went over one in that previous post. this will serve as a deeper layer into his other spouse indicators in his chart!
warning: this is going to be advanced! i will try to explain advanced concepts as best as i can for normies who don't know what i am talking about.
so in the first post, we went over keith's venus placement, and what that meant since, as you know if you read the first post, the planet venus represents the wife in a man's birth chart! but what are the other indicators? well, another method we can use to look at what type of spouse someone will attract in their life, is to look at the planet with the lowest degree in someone's chart! this concept is only in sidereal astrology, and is not a western concept, so to do this you'd need to make sure you are using your sidereal birth chart. it only being a sidereal concept is why i consider it very advanced, since most people don't know anything about sidereal astrology as it is.
using this calculator, we can see that the lowest degree planet in his chart is saturn, at 0 degrees:
it is considered his "DK" planet, which represents, as the chart says, his wife. so here is another planet to examine for his spouse archetype.
so lets look at the planet itself and what it shows:
keith having saturn as the planet that can also show what he wants in a future wife, shows that he definitely wants someone who is more serious, mature, traditional, and very disciplined. these are the traits that he'll value in a partner, are the more serious, and practical qualities. if you know even basic astrology you know the traits that saturn represents, its all about tough responsibilities, traditions, and hardwork, its about long-term gratification, etc. so i think his future wife will possess these types of qualities most likely. she could be a workaholic in some fashion as well, even if she stays as a housewife, she will become a hardworking housewife, whatever she does, she'll work hard at it. he'll want a woman thats reliable, a relationship that has security built into it, that's ultimately what he is looking for here with saturn as the DK planet, is a person who can bring security and reliability. the partner can be organized and likes to take things slow or step by step, could be a more cautious person.
saturn can represent older people as well, so there is potential that he could choose to date someone actually older than him, again not guaranteed, but the potential is there. i know that might sound contradictory since in my last post, i said that the spouse could be younger, well, this is where nuance comes in. astrology is very complex and is multi-layered, just like humans are! so what we can see is potentially a wife who is maybe younger than him but mentally mature, or we can see a wife who is older than him but mentally younger, that's how i often interpret these more contradictory energies. it can also just show that maybe, his first wife will be younger, but if he ever remarries, his second wife will be older or more mature, it can manifest as that too, so regardless, there are multiple ways this can show up. not everything is going to be simple and cut and dry.
because saturn is about seriousness, and not really too much about the mushy gushy things in life, like venus is, its possible that there could be a tendency to keep emotions, affection, hidden within his relationships, and that can cause some intimacy problems. it's important for keith to work on this and make sure he's allowing emotions to flow within his long-term partnerships. especially since his wife will probably be more of the emotional person here, he needs to make sure she can feel comfortable in sharing those emotions out in the open. there's also a chance that the relationship can fall into stiffness overtime, and that's where stuff like planning vacations, holidays, trips, or little date nights can really help better the connection because saturn isn't really known to be a super romantic planet. i will say though that i think with keith's other placements in his chart that he'll do well with this aspect with trying to keep the romance alive, he has other stuff in his chart that shows that he is a very romantic person (his purva phalguni moon, libra mars, etc.) so don't worry, i don't think it's all doom and gloom! there are balancing aspects with this.
his relationships will definitely center around the practicality more than the idealism though. regardless, this placement does indicate that keith himself will look for a relationship that does last the test of time, he is looking for a long term relationship with this person and he wants to make sure that it'll last! saturn represents the concept of time, and things taking time or lasting a long time, so this shows me that yes, he'll look for that person that he can truly see himself spending his whole life with! he's looking for that "forever" person.
now when we look at the sign his saturn is in, it's in pisces:
his saturn DK being in pisces, shows once again that the spouse could be a more emotional type, it's in a water sign, just like his venus was. so, i think the wife will definitely have some emotional qualities to her despite all the seriousness she may possess as well. it's complex. but pisces is a more spiritual sign, it's ruled by jupiter, so again, you see that theme here of the woman he'll get potentially being religious or spiritual in some sense like we saw in the previous post.
the constellation its placed in confirms this even further!
his saturn is in the constellation called purva bhadrapada which shows that there is an intense quality to his relationships, and the wife being further intensely spiritual or into religion. there can also be an up and down factor to his relationships where it's super intense, and then fizzles out, but then later becomes really intense again! there is a slight unstable energy with this, but the purpose for all this intensity is ultimately a form of spiritual awakening. this might denote a more protective possessive wife as well, especially with their children if they ever decide to have one. the wife could want to have a deep and intense emotional connection with keith in the relationship. overall a very intense energy here. the partner could be self-sacrificing within the connection, or him himself as well. both partners could be very forgiving with each other, considerate and compassionate.
also, the DK being placed in this particular constellation, can show that perhaps the wife at one point in her life can feel a bit directionless, not knowing exactly what to do with her life, yet she yearns for knowledge, but doesn't have a particular idea of where she'd like to go. there could also be a duality to this person, because this constellation is symbolized by the two-faced man, so there can be a dual nature to them, whether thats saying one thing, doing another, or possessing a personality in public thats different in private, whatever it is, there will be some aspect of duality within the partner. think of how gemini is ruled by the twins, it'll be something similar to that sort of duality. this doesn't have to be bad, again it can be small or it can be big, but it does show that. the spouse could also be interested in the occult with it being in this constellation in pisces, could also be a great counselor.
his saturn is placed in the 5th house:
this can show that his wife will definitely be very insistent on having kids! one of the main themes of the 5th house, is children, so this can show that yes the wife will most certainly want to have keith's children. this also shows that his wife will be the one to take over the children's education, now depending on the aspects, keith may or may not like her doing that, but nonetheless, this shows a wife who will want to at the very least, be very involved in the children's education. the wife can be keith's biggest cheerleader as well, and vise versa, they'll be very supportive of each other in whatever they choose to do, they'll be very encouraging and wish to motivate one another.
lastly his saturn is being aspected by mars in the 11th house, and also receiving an aspect from jupiter in the 1st house:
this is an interesting cluster of aspects because these aren't conjunctions, but an opposition from mars, and a trine from jupiter. a malefic and a benefic planet. this creates some complexity with what we can see manifest. so firstly, his saturn being aspected by mars can show quite a bit of difficulty here, as mars is the planet of conflict, its the other malefic, or negative planet, the first negative planet being saturn itself so if anything this shows that the wife can have some aggressive or assertive qualities to her, or domineering qualities. the relationship could be argument prone, so its important to keep those things in mind, though this can show strength, but how much is too much is the real question with this?
however with jupiter also aspecting this saturn, it tells me that there are once again, balancing energies with this, because jupiter is a benefic planet, its actually considered the greater benefic, more so than the lesser benefic, venus. so this does show some balancing energies, and some positivity to the more negative traits, but mainly what this shows is definitely reinforcing that spirituality theme i keep seeing with his partner. but also she can a bit more upbeat and jovial than if jupiter wasn't aspecting this saturn. but again, i'd just say to watch out for the more martian, domineering qualities, because those can definitely be present regardless. with respect to the appearance, jupiter influencing the spouse archetype can show a taller wife, obviously the woman won't be as tall as him lol, but just someone who might be considered taller for a female, like 5'7-9, etc. the wife will also have a very nice smile, and a nice bone structure.
so that is all i have for you now! please remember to not isolate one aspect in this post, astrology is complex like i keep saying, so please try to consider every aspect that is said here. ultimately, we have to combine not only his DK planet, but also his Venus placement, and that'll ultimately be the total manifestation of whatever partner he attracts. i hope i explained the concepts well enough, i tried to make it as simple as possible. hope you enjoyed this little deeper look into keith's ideal partner, i tried my best! :)
