40+ queer and genderqueer femme. harrie-louie-larrie. ot4/ot5. main is homosociallyyours. no minors please ♡ i made this sideblog so that i have a place to stick long masterposts, weird fandom tidbits, and bg/stunt things that I'd rather keep off my main. my greatest regret is not seeing 1d in concert before the hiatus.
i honestly don’t know what’s worse - that she wasn’t advised to lock her socials down and warned how invasive the fandom can be, or they wanted her to keep them open to give ‘young girl dates older guy and changes their whole personality to fit in with them vibes’
It’s just…people have got to stop immediately assuming Louis’ still tied up in a contract with Sony to explain why he’s out there getting papped with a woman. You’ve got to stop believing this man has no agency. Stunts are never easy for fans to deal with. They bring up a whole range of emotions; anger, disappointment, sadness, and those emotions are valid. You’re allowed to feel angry and disappointed and sad. You’re allowed to take a step back from fandom if you need to. But there’s a big difference between “I don’t like this so it must be wrong” and “I don’t like this because of how it makes me feel” and it’s important not to confuse the two. Queer people, closeted or not, are allowed to present in whatever way makes them comfortable. Queer people do not owe you an expression of their queerness. And, perhaps most importantly, strangers - queer strangers - aren’t responsible for our emotions. They don’t owe us that. You can slice it any way you like. You can talk about how Louis and his team are making decisions that aren’t welcomed by fandom. You can talk about decreasing follower numbers and streams. But if this is how Louis wants to or feels like he has to exist in the world so he can live his life in the way he wants to then that’s his decision.
Shout out to Louis for the dash cleanse. Thought I had purged my follows but geez. It’s only been a few hours and the absolute nastiness and misogyny being hurled her way. Will this fandom ever become self aware?? Not today apparently.
Honestly, it's moments like this that'll really underline if you're following garbage people. Use it as an opportunity to clean house--misogynists, gtfo!
this poor girl gained 20 thousand followers in less than twelve hours and I literally want to form some sort of protective barrier around her. y’all leave her the hell alone.
There are people still talking about Olivia right now, literal months after H-livia has officially ended. I mean let that sink in for a moment and you'll only just scratch the surface of what obsession looks like.
I am not sure I understand your tags about Louis galking about F specifically in that latest int.what makes sense to you?that he mentions F?
When your bestie Gets It and says stuff PERFECTLY... damn.
The post isn't rebloggable but i got permission to share a link to it. I don't talk about this subject often (for the same kind of reasons my friend mentions) but I'm always particularly annoyed with the narrative that Louis is being "forced" by "his terrible team" to talk about F.
The one person I trust when it comes to Louis' life and career is LOUIS. Whatever happens, i have complete faith that this extremely competent man knows where he's heading and how to get there. I am literally in the backseat enjoying the fucking ride!!! Keep driving, King!!!
FYI anon is off! If you wanna talk about this, you can dm me-- I'm happy to chat about this kind of thing privately --but if you decide to rb and say rude/shitty things, I may block you.
I feel like I should be embarrassed by how much I've talked about Harry publicly today... Did a 20 minute insta live about the DWD drama, sent a friend a shit load of voice messages breaking it down, and then messaged another friend (wife of the friend/my ex who's going to see him through work) giving her the lowdown when she posted asking for someone to "tell me everything you know about Harry Styles."
Like. In addition to this blog, which i don't actually consider public in the same ways, it's A LOT. And yet. I'm not even a little embarrassed.
I also had to delete the sentence, "Harry Styles is my little meow meow" bc I wasn't sure the person I was talking to (oh right i also did some defence squad work lol) would understand what i meant.
Oh Harry my love, the things I do that I hope you never actually know about ♡
Got an anon on main that i wanted to answer with snark but instead answered with a tag post telling them to dm me. They won't, but if they did i would absolutely approach it as a good faith conversation.
Anyway it's got me thinking about how much is answered by saying "this is how closets work." If you think someone is closeted, imo you're accepting that they're keeping an aspect of their life private. You're accepting that the answer will be sometimes be incomplete bc information is being withheld for their comfort and/or safety.
The focus on contracts has often bothered me, probably in part bc I'm a post-hiatus fan, but also bc as a queer person who has had friends who are closeted in some aspect of their lives I know that sometimes it's a social contract that keeps that secret. And I'm not naive enough to think that nobody has ever tried to sell a story (though i do think that if you want to keep working in the industry it's probably a pretty bad idea to have loose lips), but i also think that money and favors (i.e. "exclusive" interviews/features, etc) can go a long way in shutting down the shit that isn't supposed to be out there.
Anywayyyy I don't think it's an elaborate conspiracy so much as literally how the entertainment industry has functioned for years. There's a reason you can basically count successful out queer performers on your fingers (that's hyperbole but you know what i mean) and it's not that they don't exist. For as much as people want to pretend that being queer is widely accepted right now, it's really not. Choosing to come out has risks associated with it, and even if it didn't it's STILL not a requirement?
Disclaimer that everything above is my opinion & i don't claim to have any special insider knowledge. Happy to discuss my thoughts/this topic but not interested in debate bc I'm here for a good time and there's nothing i hate more than arguing :)
Hi! I haven’t been up to date with fandom drama in a few years since I haven’t been active on tumblr, but I read your tags under the ripped jeans Harry post and you got me interested! Could you tell me something about what you’re thinking? What is Olivia doing that you think people should be happy about but are instead whining? what did Robbie Sheffield write? I may have left the larry part of the internet but they still haven’t left my brain 🌼🌞 have a nice day!
anon 2: Hiii :) I saw your tags on the post about Harry wearing jeans but I don’t understand the context for your tags??? I couldn’t find the post/person you were referring to, but could you please explain what you mean regarding this fandom being babies and the whole Olivia proxy/last album being about a break up ect.? Thank you!
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Lumping these together because they're both about my salty-ish tags from last night, a time that was so much quieter than today, weeeee! Sorry it's a bit late, *gestures toward work mail*, but it pretty much always applies, sigh. Those tags stem from some "get a load of THIS horseshit" posts that my brethren and I occasionally trade with each other, usually because we cannot BELIEVE people have the balls to post some of the most malicious, bitter posts you've ever seen, followed by something about how sad it is that fandom is so toxic these days (gotta say, eternal faves). I love these side convos (groupchats, even!) with people who similarly hate the aggressive misogyny in the 1D fandom, and because I follow just a small handful of people in that fandom who don't actively hate women (or feel the need to casually bash them along the way to celebrating their fave rich white man), I'm sometimes out of the loop when the biggies who tend to also be the worst offenders get a little frisky with it, which is why I love it when people send me posts that are the equivalent of "get a load of THIS horseshit"--the lorde provided yesterday! I'll put my unpopular opinions under the cut because it might get rant-y, and I've got tons of aes mutuals who are ????? and patient but probably ???? and patient only to a certain point.
So one of the things I find fascinating about lady-haters in the D fandom is that the vast majority of them seem to be l*rries who also seem to really love spending a lot of time and effort screaming about Eleanor, Camille, Olivia et al. about how they should act and what they should wear and how they should dance or not dance and how obnoxious they are and on and on and on AND ON, while ALSO screaming about how much they support closeted people, hashtag fuck Olivia, man, she's the real villain here! (Paraphrasing, but the #holivia tag on tumblr will give you a pretty nasty snapshot.) And the irony is that by dating Olivia or Eleanor, both these dudes get to write all these songs about a surface relationship that give a good hint about the one right below the surface through that female proxy--you know, because they aren't actually out and can't/won't. And if you're a l*rrie, I'd think you would WANT to see Eleanor around (whew, they didn't break up, even though they were "too young"!), ditto Olivia (whew, I'm ready for a lot of domestic shit about a long-term relationship!), but no, that's a transitive property dot that can't be connected because it means you gotta unclench and let a woman live. To wit: I was sent a post yesterday from one of the biggest lady-haters, saying something something about how Harry's going to have this super domestic album and THEY are taking l*arry's love and putting Olivia in Louis’s place! Outrageous! (Plus a string of tags foaming at the mouth about how awful Olivia is, don't worry, the replies/tags are even bigger yikes.) And it's like, well, YEAH. You should actually find that pretty awesome, in fact, it probably means your faves are still together--I mean, Fine Line has loads of major break-up vibes (in amongst self-discovery and acceptance), and Harry very publicly had a breakup with Louis's proxy on that one. Rob Sheffield's article promoting Fine Line basically promotes that break-up and ends on a real fucking OUCH moment where Harry and Anne are watching Fleetwood Mac singing Landslide, and he's mc-fuckin' losin' it, Anne's there comforting him, and if you're thinking that that moment is about Camille Rowe, uh, you ain't me, babe. (Clapback too for Rob being the one to write the iconic Louis is Lindsey, Harry is Stevie piece). Again, just my own onion, I tend to be okay holding more than one string in my hand (these two CAN break up and get back together, don't even get me started on babygate brainrot talk).
But I think my biggest issue with all of it is that for a lot of l*rries, you gotta be gold star or you're out (literally true in so many groupchats and discords): they've each only fucked one person, they've never broken up, never had a major fight, it's never been messy, never been open, listen, you bitch, they fought against the odds, and they won! And I don't doubt that they did, but this isn't AO3, so I also don't doubt that they might've fucked other people, broken up and gotten back together again, had some real messy stuff, most likely around being in an open relationship for a spell and dealing with unspeakable personal tragedy, in amongst regular human growth and discovery. That doesn't make them bad people, it doesn't mean they aren't back together (and it doesn't even mean I'm right, I'm just a rando who has my own opinions about people I don't personally know, just like everyone else), but there's this fandom naivety about it, big-time fingers in ears la-la-la-la, where you're a bad person for even thinking it, so any cognitive dissonance just gets transferred to the woman involved, woman = bad (I'm simplifying, maybe it's bigger than that, but it's interesting to see how some blogs can't fucking shut about it, whereas others go about their biz--blogs in larr nation, I mean). And that's totally baby behavior, well, toddler behavior. I think a lot of babies can actually go with the flow, it's toddlers who melt down if someone moves their blankie.
Anyway, I'm wandering away from my point, which is that bearding isn't a fucking crime, especially if you claim to support your fave (or for that matter, anyone in the closet--it's what it's, as Louis's chest so wisely tells us). Your guy doesn't want to be or can't be out right now, and that's fine! Makes sense! Makes a lot of fucking sense, actually, these fans are invasive, bro! I just wish that if people were so worried about the state of the larry union, they'd maybe chill out a bit about the women involved. Maybe stop being an asshole. Maybe stop giving women asinine names because you think it's cute. Maybe stop complaining that someone's a narse because they're always "flaunting" [checks notes] that they're dating the person everyone says they're dating, or thirsting or chasing clout or whatever it is that Olivia does that is so god-awful to you on a personal level that you spend your day focused on it. (My fave: people who say she's forcing her latest ig story on them, when they're the ones following her, pausin' that little story, takin' that little screenshot, adding arrows and circles and text that manages to trash her for botox [but not Harry], trash her for dancing as if she isn't aware that everyone's watching [but not Harry], then reblogging all that garbage nonstop--it ain't rocket science, bb, she's not the one putting it anyone's face, you're literally the one following her and doing all this work! Unfollow, and set yourself free!)
Ahem. Anyway, yeah, so that's me, wondering why people spend so much time hating on people who are literally giving you the proof that you seem to need, but shirts work, too, I guess! Harder to hate a shirt, or project your self-hatred onto it, maybe? Makes u think.
This blog is where I stick my unpopularest onions, so I'm just gonna leave this here:
You know how nice it is to get love songs about a long term relationship? How we love getting these sweet ass home references?
We get them thanks in large part to beards! 1.5 years with O = a long term enough public relationship for H to write sappy happy home songs. It's likely we wouldn't have gotten sunflower vol 6 if it weren't for the appearance of Camille.
And yes, thank an El if you enjoyed Louis singing about Princess Park!!
Being in the closet sucks in a lot of ways, but right now it's what HL are doing, so I personally believe it's what they are choosing to do. Given that, the alternative to steady beards would be...brief flings? Being single? But if they can't sing about how much they love each other (bc single!) what the hell would they sing about? (I mean plenty of things-- they're good enough song writers and obviously not every song is about their relationship (though those bluegreener bitches would probably argue against that))
Anywayyyy
Who knows what we'll get?? Wake me up when the album drops 😘
(About the London location interior) The big frog and colourful pink aesthetic, I am being double stimulated as a frogrry stan and a firm believer in Babygirlrry agenda.
Ok but like if you were sitting next to the Clarks at tonight's show, would you:
Talk about them loudly as if they couldn't hear you?
Talk about them quietly/take sneaky pics but otherwise ignore them?
Frostily ignore them so they know you know who they are?
Pretend you don't know them and make lots of conversation as if you're the most annoying seat neighbor ever while holding a rainbow flag and wearing a shirt that says, "Larry is real, ask me how!"
Do you have thoughts about louis actively portraying himself as a father? Obviously, we don't know most things that go on in his life but I find this shift very interesting. Totally okay if you don't want to talk about it.
Thanks for the question anon - I'd love to hear your thoughts. I feel like the most interesting aspects of this are lost in a fandom howl. I'm going to try and describe what I've see and what that might mean. (I want to be clear that this is not an argument about whether Louis is a father. An alternate explanation for everything I discuss would be that Louis is Freddie's father and is rebuilding his relationship after the forced separation of the pandemic. My purpose is to explore how people who believe that he's not a father might understand the current situation, not argue with anyone who disagrees).
I think the most interesting starting point is Louis taking Freddie to the arcade. I always thought the idea that this was 'meant' to be seen by fans made absolutely no sense (there's a Carly Simon song that frequently comes to mind whenever I see fans discussing Freddie). I think it's far more likely if he had spent time with Freddie at other points, and this one just happened to be caught on camera.
At the time I thought it was possible that such outtings had a really long history and we'd just found out about them. But now I wonder about something else. What if what we were seeing was preparation for what we're seeing now - Freddie feeling comfortable enough with louis to spend time with him? That would suggest that what we're seeing now was planned with quite a lot of foresight. (I think back to Louis going to LA after he went to Mexico as maybe a sign that this new strategy developed even earlier).
I would suggest that if we want to understand things that seem new in 2021, the best place to look is 2020. And there are a couple of really noticeable things that happened in 2020. The first is the Zombie rise of Larry Stylinson. There's all sorts of evidence of this, but a combination of lockdown and the 10 year anniversary meant that lots of people came back to the fandom, and lots of people engaged with Larry (either again or for the first time). Given that there had been a steady decline in engagement with Larry over a period of years, this probably had a significant impact on Louis' plans. Even more so when you consider that new Larries often have a different attitude to his fatherhood than old Larries, and are prepared to be persuaded with ver lit
On top of that you had the considerable attention given by fans, and taken up by low level click bait celebrity gossip sites (that fans then fed) about stories from Briana's ex that portrayed Louis as a not very good Dad. This has reached the state where radio hosts and other people who might interview Louis might read it.
In addition, if Louis is releasing new music this year, then he'll have to talk to people about it. Now parts of fandom has this ideas that all celebrity interviews are entirely controlled and I think this is overstated. Yes late night talk shows are unlikely to spring things on you, but radio hosts going live can, as can Guardian journalists. If Louis isn't telling an effective story about his fatherhood, which is a matter of public record, then he'd probably find himself in trouble.
So that's the pieces I'm putting together at the moment. There is almost certainly things going on that we don't understand (and others like Harry playing Tom, that might be relevant that I haven't gone into).
I think the most interesting aspect of this is the long term planning. I also think it'd be wise for people who are fans of Louis to accept that this is happening. He is the best decision maker in his own life and he's put quite a lot of time and effort into this.
As I've said before it's pretty obnoxious to follow someone you think is closeted, and then complain endlessly about how hard it is when they perform heterosexuality.
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