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Pim and the blueberry was the best part of episode 5. He’s only two blueberries tall 💙
TADC Episode 9: The Grand Finale Predictions
I will admit. A friend of mine has seen the final episode earlier but she DID NOT give me ANY SPOILERS. All she told me was that it was sad so here’s what I’m thinking:
- This finale is gonna be full of flashbacks
- Jax WILL abstract. Fuck it, EVERYONE WILL ABSTRACT but I think he’ll abstract first
- Zooble and Gangle are going to have a heart to heart.
- Zooble will tell Gangle that they don’t like themselves and have body dysmorphia.
- They never told Gangle about their issues ON SCREEN so I think that’s what they’re gonna talk about.
- Gangle will probably talk to Zooble more about herself and her insecurities. I think she’s going to tell Zooble that they’re perfect the way they are in her eyes and she’ll help them out every step of the way because she loves them and then they kiss.
- Gangle also has a scene with her “normal” mask from episode 4. I think that’s a flashback, but I don’t have a clue why she has it on again. Maybe to make herself feel better? - Maybe she was being forced to put it back on?
- We’re finally going to get Ribbit and Kaufmo lore.
- I have a bad feeling that Jax is the reason why Ribbit and/or Kaufmo abstracted. “I don’t show up to ANY funerals” maybe bc he caused it to happen?
- The panicked look on his face when he said “oh my God, this is real” in episode 8 makes me think that he caused someone to abstract while thinking “It’s just a game. They’ll come back” but they would indeed not come back.
- Kaufmo and Jax definitely had an argument before he abstracted
- “Have you ever done something that you regret?” I think Jax HAS done something he’s regretted in the real world but he WONT say that he has.
- Heres what I think might’ve happened; he either ran away from home, he’s hurt someone/multiple people, or he committed a different type of crime.
- But what did Ribbit do? Did she hurt somebody that she was close to in the real world? Did THEY commit a crime??? We don’t know too much about them so we’ll figure it out.
- I’m not sure if Kaufmo was also included in that conversation, but if he did regret something it would probably be something like tax evasion.
- Kaufmo might be a chill guy
- I think Ragatha was friends with Ribbit and Kaufmo and was apart of their group
- Ragatha blames Jax for what happened and he’s pissed off at her for knowing that he’s the reason why Ribbit/Kaufmo abstracted.
- Or maybe it’s VICE VERSA???? Maybe Ragatha was the reason why one of them (or both of them) abstracted, but I highly doubt it.
- Maybe they’ve kept it a secret or something and he’s gonna tell Pomni about it. And she’s gonna tell him it’s not his fault blah blah blah
- Or Ragatha will tell Pomni about Ribbit and Kaufmo
- Will we find out what Ragatha and Pomni talked about from episode 6??? I hope we do, but I doubt it.
- Why would the cause of Ribbit and/or Kaufmo’s abstraction be a secret? I don’t fucking know maybe Jax has some dirt on Ragatha and she doesn’t want him to tell anyone about?
- It’s a stretch, maybe it’s not a secret.
- I’m not a fan of it, but Funnybunny moments will probably happen.
- I’m a fan of it, and Abstragedy moments will most DEFINITELY happen.
- I think we’re going to get lore for the abstracted ones in general (Queenie, Scratch, Wormo, etc). Kinger will tell their stories
- I think Caine and Bubble might return either in a flash back or by the Power Of Friendship or something. Idk but they’ll show up somehow.
- I hope we find out what the blue AI that Caine ate used to look like and have more information about it. (It’s name was Abel I know it)
- Ragatha is going to crash out about the fact that Caine used her mom against her
- Kinger is going to be completely lucid and he might figure out a way to get out of the circus.
- Kinger might have a heart to heart with Jax (his ass will NOT listen)
- Kinger might have a heart to heart with Pomni
- Ragatha might have heart to heart with Pomni
- Pomni should talk to Gangle and Zooble too. They haven’t really had many moments together.
- Jax and Ragatha NEED TO TALK WTF
- Fuck it, they need a group therapy circle
- I need to see some development from EVERYBODY
- EVERYBODY CRASHES OUT
- Abstraction might be the way out of the circus/simulation
- If it is, I think they’ll try to find each other in real life and “go on vacation”
- But since my friend said it was sad, abstraction could also be literal death and their bodies might’ve decayed overtime in the real world…
- It might be a stretch, but I’ve thought about what if TADC was a real life game in their universe and once the circus is “destroyed” the game is over and everything resets. (Like Undertale)
- If that theory is wrong, we will know their real names are and what they looked like as humans:
My guess is:
- Pomni is wasian
- Ragatha is white
- Kinger is white
- Gangle is fully black or blasian
- Zooble is black or hispanic
- Jax is hispanic or asian
Another way that I think could be the way out of the circus is if they say their names. Because why would Caine make them forget their names?? So they cannot escape. So he gives them new ones.
- My guesses on their names still stands:
Pomni: Valerie
Ragatha: Lillian
Kinger: Grant or Grand
Gangle: Mina
Zooble: Kai
Jax: Stanley
- I also believe in the “Jax will take over the circus theory” but I’m not quite sure on how he’ll do it. It better not be a “I’m hacking the main frame 🤓☝️” ahh sequence
Final Thoughts
Even though I’m no longer in the fandom, I do wish everyone well. There have been ups and MANY downs, but I don’t regret being apart of the community! There’s not really anything left to say, but I hope everyone stays safe and avoids spoilers.
I’ll give my last opinion on the finale after it airs on June 19th, 2026. 💜
I saw some fanart of Pim and Ragatha together and I thought really hard about the fact that they’re very similar.
- Nice and friendly
- Terrible home/family life
- In their 30s
- People Pleasers
- Had a reasonable crashout
- Gets ignored sometimes
- Wants to make people happy
Ragatha should be a smiling friend.
Quick drawing I did of Sniper and a Croc.
INEEDHIM INEEDHIM INEEDHIM INEEDHIM INEEDHIM INEEDHIM INEEDHIM INEEDHIM INEEDHIM INEEDHIM INEEDHIM INEEDHIM
So…I guess I don’t really need to do TADC episode 9 predictions anymore since the whole entire thing got leaked. Ehh I think I’ll just do it anyway.
I haven’t seen anything, and I hope the rest of you haven’t. Only check it out if you want to.
Note to self, never watch sad anime on the plane.
I watched Your Lie in April for the first time last week and I was bawling like a baby. What do you mean she loved him the entire time and he inspired HER to play the violin????
This is a replica of Andy’s room from Toy Story
A Regect Season 2 ep 5 spoilers
WAKADANTES IS REAL FUCK YESSS.
I’m real glad that Regect told Moe and Ze about Micha. There’s a possibility that his MC character can be saved but I believe his actual self has passed on.
THEY NEED TO STOP FIGHTING
STOP HARRASSING MOE. GET A JOB.
STOP SEPARATING THEM HOLY SHIT.
Annnnnd Moe and Ze got caught oml I’m so not ready for the next one so PLEASE take your time Zabooboo 😭
That Michael movie changed my life. Go see it whenever you have the chance.
Infinity out of 10.
Dare I say it’s the best Biopic???
EPIC THE MUSICAL WILL BE GETTING A MOVIEEEEE
Yo what is Angel dust’s va name again, Because I remember that someone with thr exact same name made a song called black lives matter and said the hard r n word on his devart page
Michael Kovach.
Wait really? Does anyone have a picture of this
Im afeaid to even click the image
What in the fuck!?!?!?
I hate how the entire comment section is like “he should do this song in Angel’s voice!!” like, no?? I’m sorry but I’d rather not have a white man “rap” racial slurs on repeat 36 times, ESPECIALLY in Angel’s voice.
Michael Kovach…
One of the “professional” voice actors of the series …
Without even apologizing ONCE or even trying to make amends for what he did…
The literally attempted to appropriate our cultures by mocking the music genre we FOUGHT to be able to create.
With Michael Kovach having THIS SHIT on his profile???
Im sorry but…
THIS LITERALLY FUCKING CONFIRMS THAT THEY DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE MINORITIES THEY REPRESENT AND ONLY WANTED MORE CASH IN THEIR WALLET.
This isnt even the FIRST TIME the community has shit on black people or our history either…
With the fandom ive been…
Drawn as blackface by a Hazbin Hotel fandom..
Experienced people literally telling us that our opinions are “invalid” for having BLM or ANY support towards African Americans.
Seen Faust create a “joke” about giving the BLACK CODDED ABUSER WHO IS THE ONLY ONE CODED THAT WAY a “black rapper” voice
Have seen literally multiple black stereotypes onto their character named Valentino.
Have seen the fandom literally deny BLATANT black cultural appropriation with the “Voodoo Signs” from our cultures.
And have now found out that…
ONE OF THE VOICE ACTORS OF HAZBIN HOTEL HAD A ACTUAL RACIAL DISCRIMINATION RECORD ON HIS DEVIANTART.
And as proof…
The description of where the uploader found the deviantart (as a voice comparison)…
LITERALLY has his twitter username plastered on there.
This was only TEN YEARS ago which…
Though it was a longer time than today…
The accounts are STILL up on deviantart and was never taken down by Michael Kovach whatsoever despite the racially explicit content.
The deviantart was literally playing with the terms that our people were called when we were ENSLAVED.
And some might write in the comments:
“Oh lmao he did it as a joke who cares its fine!”
Um…
THIS WAS A JOKE MADE BY WHITE MEN AS WELL.
These “jokes” literally are what caused my own mother to be BEATEN by her white schoolmates back when she was my age in the 1970s.
These “jokes” have caused us generations of racial prejudice and pain from the white men who had once owned us as slaves.
These “jokes” are the reason why we are shot down by the police on a daily basis just from the color of our skin seeming “suspicious” to them.
The history of those who had used these “jokes” within our media…
HAVE LITERALLY KILLED US.
TAKEN US AWAY FROM OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
ENSLAVED OUR PEOPLE.
TAKEN US AWAY FROM HAVING ANY SORT OF REAL RESPECT FROM THE WORLD WE LIVE IN.
Those who had used these slurs have literally both harmed us physically and mentally for generations.
They used our suffering as their own entertainment as we CONTINUED to be stripped from our rights despite being JUST AS HUMAN as they are.
Because back then…
THE TITLE “N/GRO” AND “N/GGER” WERE USED TO DEMONIZE OUR EXISTENCE SINCE THEY ONLY VIEWED US AS ANIMALS.
Just because Michael Kovach is a white man in the 21st century…
Does not mean that he could just appropriate what our people suffer through and treat the demonization of our cultures and even our EXISTENCE as a goddamn JOKE.
He even literally mocked…
RAPE.
And guess what Hazbin Fandom…
Just because someone did something years ago…
DOES NOT MAKE IT OK.
ESPECIALLY IF THEY DON'T FEEL ANY SORT OF SYMPATHY FOR WHAT THEY HAD DONE.
So Michael Kovach using these sort of slurs towards our cultures and even SHAMED our skin color for his own enjoyment…
STILL MAKES HIM A RACIST WHITE MAN.
And before someone ALSO tells me in the comments:
“Lmao im black and I find this to be ok! :)”
Self erasure does NOT make someone immune to criticism.
So even if some african americans could defend something such as this…
Most of them DON’T.
Our people literally do NOT tolerate shit like this.
We are in the middle of protesting for our rights against the police force who continually have unjustifyingly imprisoned us in the SAME CENTURY.
So this being done ONLY ten years ago still holds Michael Kovach accountable for his behavior based on the lack of empathy.
And even if I myself dont personally agree with the rioting that has gone on within our cities and have been more harsh towards this movement in the past…
If they feel the need to get the message across more harshly…
They should do it because my people DESERVE HUMAN RIGHTS.
Not to have our LIVES and cultures being shit on by white men who barely understand our struggles as minorities in the first place!
To use our history of racial prejudice as a JOKE.
The same way media has affected us for literally years!
https://newsinfo.iu.edu/news-archive/22445.html
So yes,
Till Michael Kovach,
The official voice actor of Angel Dust….
ACTUALLY FEELS EMPATHY FOR HOW HE HAS TREATED OUR CULTURE AS GARBAGE.
The same way I had referred to Brock Baker months before…
I will hold Michael Kovach accountable as someone who is clearly a MINORITY HOSTILE.
Till he actually, TRULY understands how harmful this behavior was (and still is to this day) to our identities, race, ethnicity, and culture….
I WILL STILL HOLD MICHEAL KOVACH ACCOUNTABLE.
END OF DISCUSSION.
If anyone knows, there should be action taken.
Look, I’m not going to defend what Michael did. I’m not going to justify his behaviour years ago by saying that he only bragged about raping women as a joke, or that he only spammed the n-word as a joke, because frankly, the shit he said doesn’t even qualify as jokes. I’m also not going to try to say it was just satire and he was just making fun of racists because he obviously wasn’t. This isn’t a Blazing Saddle situation, this isn’t a Boondocks situation, this is just an edgy white kid making dumb racist jokes that not even Sam Hyde or Anthony Cumia would try to defend.
I’m not going to act like thehazbinhonest shouldn’t be offended by what Michael did, and I’m not going to say that she just doesn’t get the joke. I’m not going to act like black people shouldn’t be offended when white people make unfunny racist jokes. She has a good reason for wanting Michael to apologize and delete his deviantart account.
But let me make this perfectly clear.
If you don’t have a problem with accusing somebody of being a white supremacist, contacting their employer and trying to get them fired from their job because they said some edgy shit 10 years ago, you are either a sociopath or a psychopath.
If you have a problem with Hazbin Hotel, that’s fine. If you have a problem with Michael Kovach, that’s fine. But there is nothing - absolutely nothing - that justifies doing shit like this.
Much like the person I’m reblogging this from, I’m not defending Michael nor am I trying to justify it. And I’m aware that I may be speaking out of turn (given that yeah, I’m white). However, I think there’s a difference between holding someone accountable and bringing to their attention something from their past that they did that caused harm and demanding that they be fired. Should Michael address these comments/quote on quote jokes? Absolutely. Does he need to address them? Absolutely.
Firing him is not the same as holding him accountable. I feel like firing him/dropping him from the projects would only be suitable if it had happened while he was working on Hazbin/Lackadaisy (ex: he called a coworker a racial slur, used a racial slur on Twitter, etc) not because it happened in the past and he hasn’t addressed it. It would be one thing if he did something illegal (as was the case with the voice actor for Stolas) and it came out that Michael was doing something like that then asking for him to be fired would be justifiable. But racial slurs/jokes and rape jokes are not on the level as illegal and harmful behavior.
I want to clarify a little bit on the content featured in this thread.
The “rap song” is from a video that my friend-at-the-time Sammuel made back in 2010 when I was 14 years-old. He asked me to record a freestyle rap for a song parody he was doing. While my intent was for the content to be “nonsensical” and “goofy”, I did not realize how the language and content could potentially affect others at the time. Looking back, I regret having been a part of it, and I apologize for any harm my language may have caused.
Now, regarding the DeviantArt profile - while I did go by the handle “UltimateZDawn” around 2008-2009, I did NOT have ANY involvement in the content of that page and wasn’t even aware of it until now. The only DeviantArt accounts I’ve used in the past are Sonictailsfan & DBZSonic. The biography on the UltimateZDawn profile appears to be a parody of my DBZSonic profile’s bio, and given how long ago this was, I couldn’t begin to guess why the account was made or even who by. All I can really say is that the content of this profile DOES NOT and has NEVER reflected my values as a person. I have never considered shock humor to be even remotely funny, and am disgusted that this content exists on a profile using a username that I identified with at one point.
TO WRAP UP, I want to make it very clear that I absolutely do NOT condone any of the content from either the rap song OR the DeviantArt page. While I was not involved in the latter, I want to genuinely apologize for any harm that the contents of the rap song and/or that DeviantArt account may have caused.
@kovox
Here’s the issue that I have with this…
(By the way, I have NO intent on firing, harming, or cancelling this voice actor and to defend him at this point with “lmao he’s just edgy!” is honestly insulting to the struggles my culture has gone through for generations. Criticism for someone’s actions is not cancelling ESPECIALLY if they caused harm towards a minority watching their show thank you.)
Kovox the ONLY way that I could defend this as an African American is if you were within a racist home or had no idea of the harm that these slurs have caused to black culture but…
According to your “explanation” from your twitter…
You weren’t.
And just decided to point fingers at your friend when you were CLEARLY involved within the situation but didn’t even decide to do anything about it.
“All I can say is that the content of this profile DOES NOT and has NEVER reflected my values as a person. I have never considered shock humour to be even remotely funny, and am disgusted that this content exists on a profile using a username that I identified with at one point.”
But you admitted to having been involved in saying the slurs or finding these sort of things funny in the first place.
As quoted there was an involvement within the situation:
“The “rap song” is from a video that my friend-at-the-time Sammuel made back in 2010 when I was 14 years old. He asked me to record a freestyle rap for a song parody he was doing. While my intent was for the content to be “nonsensical” and “goofy”, I did not realize how the language and content could potentially affect others at the time.”
You did find the “shock” humour to have been something that you found humourous DESPITE the fact that you clearly could have prevented the issue by not being involved in the song in the first place.
When I was 15 years old…
I was sexually exploited by multiple white men online which had caused me multiple amounts of trauma.
Did I fully understand that having taken those pictures of myself for them was wrong?
No,
Unfortunately I didn’t.
But did I acknowledge at the time that using slurs or racism even against OTHER races was innapropitate or hurtful?
Yes,
Because they are.
People might defend these words as “Oh they’re just edgy!” or “Its not harmful or bad stop being overdramatic!” but these things have a HISTORY to them that has caused harm towards our culture even to this day.
This history still having an impact to this day.
Racism is still very much common and to act as if it doesn’t have harmful effects when it DOES for the sake of a cartoon such as what those in the reblogs had done only enhances this stigma further.
At this point in time you should have at least KNOWN that saying these sorts of words or harmful statements as someone who is within a white community.
It would have been one thing if you had fully admitted that these issues of saying these harmful statements and activity PARTICIPATING in the situation.
But you again,
Didnt.
The statements of “I participated in the rap video because I thought it was goofy and funny lol!” to a woman of color before having made the statements “But I would NEVER find this sort of shock humour funny!” shows the level of dishonesty that is very much perceived here.
You didn’t find it funny…
But you DID find it funny…
But then you ALSO didn’t find it funny…
But you still participated within the voices of the song…
And now you’re trying to tell ME that its just “being a goofy kid!” when children are normally very much taught by literally 4 grade that this find of wording is harmful?
By using your white previlage to tell someone to their face “I never found these things to be funny!” when you clearly had a genuine amount of involvement within this sort of behavior is nothing short of dishonesty.
I did find it to be more considerate of you to have apologized publically but at the same time excusing the situation as “NEVER” reflecting your behavior when you had an involvement within the rap video and didn’t event blink an eye shows that you don’t want to actually admit that these statements had caused harm in the first place.
This sort of behavior DOES impact who you are as a person an who you WERE as a person since you actually admitted to being involved in the video to verbally shove those slurs into a song with someone you clearly knew was racist.
I’m starting to notice an issue with your team in general where there is either the statements “I didn’t even do that!” or “I was just a stupid child at the time!” no matter how much older they truly were.
(Hint: Vivziepop was in her TWENTIES and very much knew that drawing zoophilia or harming her friends was wrong but did it anyway to the point of calling them an “abuser” after having caused Dollcreep to be given death threats and harassment into a SUICIDE ATTEMPT and never having actually apologized.)
What makes it worse if the fact that a few of you even STILL repeating this sort of behavior to this day and have not genuinely attempted to apologize in the slightest.
To tell me to my face,
“I said these slurs already in the rap song but this “fake” deviantart was a hoax I tell you! Even if I did the rap song I would NEVER find these “goofy” things to be funny and even when I said the slurs within the rap song in the first place I didn’t do any of this kinda stuff I swear!”
When…
You did find these things to be funny, but living within a white community made it so you didnt feel the need to understand the consequences of them.
You were still 14 years old, a time where those in the white community would have been taught from their parents that saying the hard r or the n word with the intent to mock African Americans was harmful. These things arent just a “simple lookover” you KNEW these things were harmful and you did it anyway.
You state that you would “NEVER” validate this sort of humor by using your white prievalge to sneak your way out of fully confronting your behavior when you in fact DID find it funny and FULLY VOICED that rap song as the intent of a “parody” song.
Micheal Kovach…
YOU WERE RACIST.
Even if your white preivalege doesn’t want to make you admit that you actually found these things funny or knew that they were harmful but did it anyway…
Even if these things might not reflect the values you have now completely…
YOU STILL ACTIVLY DEFENDED THEM WITH THE SAME EXCUSES VIVZIEPOP NORMALLY USES IN THE FIRST PLACE.
You KNEW at the time that these things were harmful.
You DID find those kinds of slurs to be funny.
There was NEVER a “NEVER” in the situation…
You actually did use these slurs and had no regret towards them besides “but I would NEVER find it funny I swear uwu!” when you DID.
The same thing for the rest of the Hunicast…
The Haitian symbols that were used within the show are STILL being used and Vivziepop never even admitted ONCE that using them was racially insensitive to Haitiain culture.
You didnt even TRY to professionally attempt to create an apology but rather only WORD PLAY of “I found it goofy” or to point fingers at the “parody” deviantart by stating “I would never do these things I would never find this funny!” when you clearly acknowledged at the time that doing the voiceover would have been harmful but did it anyway.
You know that’s shown when a white man attempts to say that they “NEVER!” said harmful slurs towards black culture or use OUR wording with the intent of appropriating their music and mocking them profusely when….
They clearly did and even actively participated in the song…
WHITE PRIVILEGE.
You actually attempted to use your previalege on a black person,
A girl who literally has a HISTORY of having been racially discriminated by those of your community.
Just so you could just point fingers at that “parody” account to make it seem as if you would “NEVER” be ok with having said slurs such as that when the song parody proves that you DID.
Its always the same thing with you people!
You say that having a gay character that has harmful derogatory stereotypes is “fun” and “just a joke” when having a gay male character sexually making others uncomfortable is STIGMA.
You say that using Haitian symbols or having painfully black codded characters such as Valentino is “just a joke!” when this sort of demonization if part of the reasons why we are discriminated to this day!
The demonization…
The stimgmatation…
The appropitation of other cultures…
Whether any of the cis white community may like it or not…
IS HARMFUL TOWARDS US.
I have literally witnessed others in your community activity SHITTING on our cultures and laughing at us for caring!
I have been drawn in blackface by your community!
Given death threats by multiple white men!
I have witnessed people literally shaming other accounts for calling out the stereotypes and stigmatation within Hazbin Hotel JUST for having Black Lives matter in their profile.
You keep saying to me that this sort of stigmatation of the black culture “was just goofy kid jokes!” and that “I would NEVER find these things funny!” when you clearly DID and just don’t want to admit that you were wrong by pointing fingers at that “fake” deviantart account when…
YOU STILL DID THE DAMN SONG AND RECORDED IT.
And even if I’m not sure if the Deviantart is truly yours or not…
You were still involved with the song AND actually found it funny at the time!
Again,
There was never a “NEVER” in the situation.
THERE WAS A “WERE” IN THE SITUATION.
You WERE in a situation where you found the demonizaton of our cultures to be funny!
You WERE in a situation where you didnt regret what you were doing for literally TEN WHOLE YEARS.
Are you trying to tell me that within TEN YEARS you never found that having these sort of statements would lead to any of your African American fans to have ever found these things?
Are you trying to tell me that you “NEVER” would have found these things funny when you clearly DID within the rap “parody” beforehand and is only trying to use your white privilege to sneak your way out of controversy from my eyes?
Because these are all excuses Micheal Kovach!
They don’t actually amount to an “apology” if you’re just going to find excuses or even funny on deny ever finding these sorts of things funny as an excuse for your fans to defend your white privilege for the thirtieth time!
The same way Vivziepop used HER white privilege as a white passing latina to create stereotypes such as this in the first place.
It was “Just a little joke!” that she did and therefore it’s find to have racial demonization as long as she gets money in the bank for it right?
WRONG.
When people use their ONLY black codded sterotype as an “70′s abusive moth pimp!” it characterizes us as harmful or sexually abusive when…
WERE NOT ALL LIKE THAT.
When people use a Latina character’s JUSTIFIED anger as a joke all it does is increase the “latina women are aggressors!” trope further.
https://galemalio.tumblr.com/post/627888561832738816/3-examples-of-racial-bias-in-animation
When people use gay men or sex workers as “Flamboyant men WHO make other men VERY VERY uncomfortable because its funny!” and have them literally sexually harass TWO CHARACTERS as a joke it makes them seem as if they are “all sex” when they clearly are NOT.
Sex addictions AND Drug addictions are not a “joke” to use against gay men and are serious addictions that are stigmatized within the show for the benefit of the majority cis or straight audience that are watching.
And even if SOME people might find excuses for his demonized portrayal just because of the Valentino plot existing within the series…
The Valentino plot in itself was STILL glamourized on his Instagram with his abusive behavior with Vox also being used as a joke to an audience that barely understands the struggles of domestic violence in the first place!
Along with the same people who defended Angel Dust being a gay steortype just because of Valentino’s inclusion in the story..
LITERALLY SHIPPING HIM AND HIS ABUSER TOGETHER TO FETISHIZE THE ABUSE RIGHT AFTER THE MUSIC VIDEO.
And some of the fandom might scream to my face,
“Its just a joke! Who cares ship who you want it doesn’t hurt anybody!”
Except…
It does hurt others to fetishize abuse within media.
Kovach you even wore THIS SHIRT just two weeks ago as a joke to attempt to “offend” someone who hated a character who literally has no redeeming qualities since he is a sexual abuser who’s only “good” quality is his design.
You clearly find black stereotypes or abusive characterizations of African Americans to STILL be funny according to these kinds of post:
You just didnt care.
And wanted to prove to someone who had the RIGHT to hate this character that creating merchandising off of a music video with RAPE was somehow funny to someone who doesn’t like to see abuse.
When guess what…
The equivalent of making a animal abuse psa but then creating merchandising of a puppy being punched in the face….
Or the LITERAL equivalent to creating a psa about domestic violence JUST to have the main merchandising being of the sexual abuser to glamorize it…
ISNT FUNNY.
The series/community acts as if Angel Dust is some martyr for abuse when the character is literally FETISHIZED for his abuse in the first place by both the fandom and the creators in the first place.
Most of the audience wasn’t even PHASED by the rape in the first place and treated it like nothing because of the glamourization featured within the video.
They only reacted as “wow that music video was smexy because it has pole dancing which makes it cool and funny!” and the visuals of rape didnt effec them as much as it would have if it were featured in the SHOW without the glamourization involved since it was GLAMOURIZED.
Even one of your STAFF MEMBERS was baffled by seeing this in your page.
But did you apologize or have ANY sort of sympathy for what you had posted on Twitter @kovox?
NO.
And whether the cis white section of the audience likes it or not…
These things have hurt OUR COMMUNITY which is the reason we even formed this alliance within the fandom in the first place!
We are POC here.
We are “flamboyant gay men” here.
We are “angry latinas” here.
We are lesbians.
We are OTHER gay men.
WE ARE LGBT AND MINORITIES SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE STEROTYEPES AND DEMONIZATION WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY.
And whether you like it or not…
You “NEVER” giving a genuine apology and just attempting to sweep having demonized our cultures under the rug for the sake of a cheap “joke” that you clearly knew was wrong but didnt want to admit that you ever found it funny in the first place…
People like you are LITERALLY the reason why we are continuously silenced within media just because the white community don’t want to admit that what they are doing is harmful.
WHITE PRIVILEGE.
So the next time ANY OF YOU attempt to make excuses to our faces or attempt to slide any of these sort of appropriation, sterotyping, and even FULL ON RACISM under the rug to avoid controversy,
White privilege is not the excuse to appropriate or insult someone’s:
Culture.
Racial terms.
Identity.
Race.
Sexuality.
Gender
There is literally “NEVER” an excuse for this sort of behavior and you attempting to tell me that you “NEVER” found these things funny by pointing fingers at your “fake” deviantart account for the things you still also did within that “parody song” because you found these sort of slurs and demonization of black culture to be FUNNY.
These things only amount to show how little you actually cared for the situation and only wanted to sugar coat it as “just a little joke I did as a kid!” when people of that age are on average FULLY AWARE of this sort of appropitation being harmful towards suffering minorities such as us.
There was never a…
“I did this rap song as a kid but I would NEVER find these sort of demonizations funny because my friend made the lyrics and I only SANG IT that deviantart account doesn’t show my values EVER as a person even if I already said those slurs near when the deviantart was created for a song!”
There was only a:
“I created this song with my freind because I thought that demonizing black people was cool and fresh because of ME wanting to seem “edgy” and cool to my white peers while shaming my black peer’s existence in the process because white privilege is cool as long as no one knows that you’re doing it lmao!”
Kovox as a professional voice actor…
You KNEW that these things were racist you just DIDNT CARE.
And you KNOW that excusing these sort of things with “that fake deviantart was just made by a troll so now the slurs I said in the song didnt exist because I would NEVER find them funny Starlight!” is unacceptable.
Yet you did it anyway because your white privilege demanded that you make as many excuses as humanly possible for your behavior by using wordplay such as “I would NEVER find these things funny because this fake deviantart did the SAME things I did in the song!”, “It was a freind who made it!”, “I was just a kid!”, or “The rap song was made years ago!” to attempt to justify the situation or sugar coat the behavior.
So again…
You either dig yourself ANOTHER HOLE by not admitting that you had found this sort of unacceptable behavior to be funny in the first place.
Or you admit to that you were a racist white individual who was using his white privilege onto African American culture.
And is currently still using his white privilege to escape the consequences of his behavior
You either admit to YOUR OWN behavior and move on…
Or keep making the same excuses over and over…
And over again…
The same way the rest of your staff members have done for years…
Its your choice to make…
And I’m not making it for you.
I have no words. What’s there even to say about this?
I’m genuinely done.
The t shirt thing wasn't that bad......in comparison to the actually hateful stuff michael kovach has said, go look for the bitter ocean blog on here and then type kovach into the search bar there is some nasty stuff he has said and I cannot repeat them because quite frankly I would do an injustice in the retelling.
Oh shit really? God damn it man. I’ll check it out.
Also I’m gonna let it be known that I do not support the harassment of Michael and Ashley. What they did sucks, but it’s not an excuse to dox and harass them. I pray for their safety.
NOW this is the last time I talk about the situation.
Ludwig and ludwig
Re-watched emesis blue, worst mistake of my life
EMESIS BLUE WAS MY SHITTTT. I just might rewatch it bc of this art
I gotta delete Twitter man wtf.
For context: Ashley Nichols and Michael Kovach are being cancelled on twitter for laughing at a “nega” joke (a black shirt with the word “nega” on it) on a Jackbox stream like 7 years ago. (Also “nega” was basically a replacement for the n word in the 2010s)
And Ashley actually said the n word on the same stream. (Okay so, she was trying to pronounce a chatter’s username. She didn’t say it in like a racist manner but it sounded like she literally said “nigga” so…I’m still indifferent)
They both apologized and It’s good that they did, but as a black person I don’t accept their apologies. I don’t tolerate racism even if it is a joke.
“It was years ago get over it” -I do believe that people can change within a long period of time and I want to believe that they have, but at the end of the day, we don’t know them personally.
They could be raging racists or they could just be kind hearted people. We do not know them.
There’s a lot of people calling black people the n word on twitter for being upset about this situation and it’s just insane.
I might step away from of the TADC fandom for a while. I’ll still watch the last episode and give my input but I really don’t know. See y’all later 💜
I am 0 for 2 in fandoms lately (TADC and Katseye) 😭
PS: Non black people accepting their apologies “on our behalf” is fucking weird. Their apologies don’t apply to you because the N WORD is often used to dehumanize black people when it’s used by non black people.
PPS: I heard that Gooseworx also participated in the nega “joke” on that same stream. She didn’t apologize, but it’s whatever. I wouldn’t have accepted her apology either.
Slimeknight is based
The Amazing Digital Circus Real Name Guesses
Kinger: Grant 80%. It could be Grand or Giani but I’m sticking with Grant for now
Pomni: I’m thinking of a name that’s like protagonist-esqe like a Miranda, Hailey, Valerie, or Penelope. I’m liking the sound of Valerie for Pomni the most
Gangle: This one is a tough one, I’m getting the vibes of Gangle having a shorter name like Nia, Sam, Mina, or Aoi (I headcanon Gangle as blasian). She’s got an a at her the end of her name for sure. I’ll say Mina!
Ragatha: Definitely like rich girl-esqe but I’m thinking she was named after a flower. Rose, Daisy, Magnolia, or Lily (Lillian). I’m liking Lillian for Ragatha
Zooble: Yknow Zooble also gives the vibes of having a shorter name too. I’m seeing Ash as a name for Zooble, which I like, but I fear it’s too far fetched bc that’s their voice actress’ name. I’m thinking more of like Kai, Sage, Max, and Alex. A gender neutral name. I’m liking Kai the most because I headcanon Zooble as black. (It’s probably NOT it though 😭)
Jax: bitch.
In all seriousness though, I don’t have any great guesses on what his name could be, but “LIAM”???? Are we kidding? Jax is not a Liam bro. He’s like a Steve or something. An S name for sure like Samuel, Stanley (Stanford???????👁️👁️), or Spencer. I think I’ll stick with Stanley as my choice.
Now I know these answers are most definitely W R O N G. But it doesn’t really matter to me. I had fun picking these out and just guessing them.
We’ll hear what their names are come June!! Hopefully-