Oppa meant it

This journal serves as a collection for all the problematic things Oppa (and Unnie) have done/said. With receipts. It doesn't judge the fans of these Idols or even Kpop as a whole. It is simply meant as collection for aware fans. You can still be a fan of Oppa/Unnie. How?

[oppadidmeanit]

These are all the submissions I still had left.

But I wanna add another thing. While i was in my inbox i noticed a few messages asking me if certain people have done anything. It's fine to ask but i want you all to remember that idols are people. And people fuck up and do "problematic" (as much as i've come to hate that word) things. We have all fucked up at one point or the other and we likely will again. Key is how we react to that. If we get better. Even if it's 5-10 years down the line...

And the same goes for idols. Just because an idol hasn't publicly said a lot of stuff doesn't mean they might have racist/classist/homophobic etc views. So please, can we, as a fandom stop putting the people on a pedestal that have not fucked up? I don't think it's healthy. Thank you.

[oppadidmeanit]

Yixing (continued)

Regarding my post about Yixing just now,

I do acknowledge that the interview was done in Indonesia, (I’m half Indonesian, ethnically) where homosexuality is strongly condemned and homosexuals have to fear for their personal safety and really guard their lives whenever they go out. No, it wouldn’t have been wise for them to let out an implication that they were gay, to go free.

I also get that essentially his intent was to clarify that none of the members are gay, but at the same time there are better ways than to go via the Siwon route and define a homosexual man as anything less than a ‘real’ human being. 

Again, thank you for reading.

Thank you anon!

[oppadidmeanit]

EXO's Yixing, (category: homophobia)

http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/101780-exo-is-lay-homophobic-or-ignorant-watch/

The forum has a video embedded in the first post. I wouldn't give him a free pass myself, but I'd still would like you to see the comments made by other K-Pop fans in the thread before you decide for yourself. Thank you!

[oppadidmeanit]

[Zico]

http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x35cax_amieeaplus_block-b-5mbc/1#video=x1nd6ng  

at 36:23 taeil says that zico’s special talent is ‘talking black’ and zico proceeds to do so (sorry its not subbed)

thank you permasulk!

[oppadidmeanit]

[Hoya, Woohyun]

hoya, woohyun and even infinites ceo said some pretty shitty things about sungjong being ‘feminine’ saying it was his weakness and he wasnt manly because he had pink hair once, crossed his legs and even just because he had spotty socks :/// http://24.media.tumblr.com/f9699c30637b2d5ae5e6ffe435657a41/tumblr_n2rdemM0Ja1r83k2po1_250.gif http://24.media.tumblr.com/897aab006fc06fc58ca16cb80eaf7b5c/tumblr_n2rdemM0Ja1r83k2po2_250.gif http://25.media.tumblr.com/431e1341f66375a8f6c606c624f89d5c/tumblr_n2rdemM0Ja1r83k2po3_250.gif http://25.media.tumblr.com/e8182fe00ec0abdffb48a3fe452ed55c/tumblr_n2rdemM0Ja1r83k2po4_250.gif http://31.media.tumblr.com/70a6ac80ded44b46feeb594eef308a96/tumblr_n2tp69RgVS1rnggcto1_250.gif

thank you watchdog!

[oppadidmeanit]

[Leo]

Leo from Vixx said 'who would like it to be kissed by a guy?' when asked why he didn't want to participate in the paperkissinggame. The video can be seen on youtube under the name Vixx Cute and Funny Moments byyoutube user HDsubsTV1 (it happens at 1:34)

the video

thank you anon!

[oppadidmeanit]

You might have guessed it already but I will not be working on this blog anymore. There are multiple reasons for that but the most important one would be that i've personally become wary of the call out culture that exists in kpop fandom. To go into the reasons for that would take too long but let's just say that I won't be contributing anymore to it at least not at a level that is not just personal. (e.g. i will still call out idols in my own time but not collect receipts on here anymore).

Another reason is that i simply have no time anymore. I will leave the blog up and i wanna say thank you for the support and submissions i got. If anyone else wants to make a receipt blog/collection feel free to use all my posts.

I've disabled messages and submissions.

So long~

[oppadidmeanit]

Are you going to add Rap Mon using the n-word in the Shinhwa performance?

Yes, i will! I also have a few more submissions to post (I did not forget~)

I need to find the time to sit down and work on this blog. 

[oppadidmeanit]

[Sunny]

In the first episode "Girls' Generation's Hello Baby" Sooyoung asks Sunny if she could hold Kyungsan (the baby) and Sunny replied "It seems that Kyungsan dont like big and dark things" (Refering to Sooyoung)

Thanks for the submission!

[video]

[oppadidmeanit]

You could honestly spend your time doing much more useful stuff

you too

[oppadidmeanit]

this blog is really great, could you update some of the tags though? like minho was also involved in the cultural appropriation stunt that onew did but he isn't listed. also when it comes to exo baekyun has made fun of kai's skin color just like chanyeol and others have but he isnt listed. Jonghyun of shinee has also done some messed up things but he's not listed as well. not trying to be annoying just wanted to let you now of some things to keep the tags up to date.

except for what jongyhun of shinee has done i’m aware of the things you listed but haven’t been able to compile a new post or been able to find a photo of minho in that getup.

as for jonghyun, if you know what he did, submit it. submit the other stuff as well if you have it. that would be more helpful than an ask like this. thank you~

[oppadidmeanit]

Aron's apology is a total joke, ide. from the sounds of it he does not even know what it is to be sexist. So i doubt he learn

Yeah, ia. I like to pretend i'm neutral in my posts but I couldn't help but put "apologized". I'm not going to tag that as an apology either because it really wasn't one.

[oppadidmeanit]

[Rain]

The musicvideo for Rain's song "LA Song" features the caricature of a black woman's body as a shadow on the wall whose boobs and buttocks expand comically.

video

[oppadidmeanit]

[Aron]

On Arirang Radio Aron made the followwing comment:

"That’s why guys are superior. To be fair - this is my opinion, don’t take it offensively or anything but I think guys make better friends than girls. Girls - you guys are hot, you guys are pretty, you guys are good to look at, but like…you like to gossip a lot"

He later "apologized":

"just postin a random photo to clear some things out. first off, I apologize to anyone who was offended by my comment. I am in no way, shape, or form a sexist, and never will be. I love women, all the power to you. but there are quite a few people misinterpreting what I meant and taking my words out of context. take the time to listen to the recordings. if you did, you'd probably know I was joking and that I was talkin about FRIENDSHIP, not sexism. like I said, those words weren't meant to hurt anyone or target a specific group/gender, and I'm sincerely sorry if they did. so quit the fightin, stop bashin on each other, and live your lives. cuhs imma keep livin mine. life is too short to be fussin over little things like this. just some of my insight. hope y'all have a good night !#nuest#aron#apology#sorry#donttakemywordsoutofcontext#notasexistandneverwillbe"

source source of apology

[oppadidmeanit]

answering asks

i know some of these have been in my inbox for a while i just didn't have the time/mind to reply to them during christmas time

"about the post where jaejoong hits and curses at a saesaeng fan, i haven't seen the video nor english subs so please excuse me if i get something wrong, but she's a saesaeng fan. even if it wasn't right to curse at her he was standing up for himself. i'm sure you've heard of what these "fans" do, much of which includes provoking idols in hopes of some sort of reaction, wouldn't you have reacted the same? these girls invade their "oppas" lives 24/7 with no boundaries"

A: this is a very tricky debate that has been going on for a long time and not something i want to discuss on this blog. here i only collect the facts about things that happened etc and it /is/ a fact that jaejoong hit her (i have heard the recording and you can clearly hear the slap) so he has been violent towards this young girl and that is not okay. that she was a saesaeng doesn't make it right. i'm not saying saesaengs aren't wrong but this is not a blog about saesaengs this is a blog about idols that have fucked up and jaejoong fucked up when he hit her. i hope that clarifies. (of course this is just my personal stance i'm sure there are a lot of different opinions out there.)

"i've read through your blog and you have some very good points , however i've noticed that some posts tagged homophobia aren't exactly homophobic. saying "no homo" isn't homophobic. obv if they say it with disgust it would be homophobic but just saying "no homo" or "i'm not into guys/i like girls" isn't homophobic."

A: it's homophobic. casual homophobia is still homophobia. 

"Do you call these "fans" oppalogists?"

A: Who are "these fans"? And no, oppalogist is not usually a word i use.

"Hey! You replied to an ask with "but it makes me wonder if that is something a korean idol (or their stylist) knows and so i’m unsure if i should make a post for it" but doesn't that apply to a lot of Kpop idols and their stylists as well? Right under the ask, you posted about T-ara wearing Native American headdresses but they (rather their stylists) surely don't know what's problematic about this. (In my country they don't either and wear them for carnival etc.) It doesn't excuse their (cont.) (cont.) ignorance and the problematic aspect of course! Something is still cultural appropriation, sexist etc. even if they don't know it."

A: True. Of course ignorance is no excuse. What I meant was that I wouldn't put up a post for this because I do not understand the implications of him wearing it and I wouldn't feel good about putting a post on my blog that I don't understand etc. I asked the followers if I should make a seperate post for it, as it is on the blog now anway, or leave it as is and since my followers all said to leave it as it is, I did. What I'm gonna do now is tag it, so it shows up when you browse the block b tag on the blog. :)

"you using oppa is cultural appropriation"

A: Can you elaborate on this because last time this debate happened (over on thisisnotkorea possibly? I don't quite remember where) it was said that it was unsure because there is no equivalent of Oppa/Unnie/Noona/Hyung in the english language (and not in my first language either). Adding to that, I don't use oppa anywhere but in the blog title and the sidebar which was supposed to be a play on the good old "Oppa didn't mean it!!!!" trope.

"[any variation of hatemail/personal attacks]"

A: /blocked

[oppadidmeanit]

[Onew]

During the Shinee Concert the Wizard on 21-12-13 Onew performed dressed up as... a mexican stereotype.

[oppadidmeanit]

[Key, Taemin]

Check out this video of Key, Taemin and Jonghyun on Sukira. What starts out as a funny situation where Kai torpedoes Taemin's friendship speed quiz ends somewhat skeezily; Key knocks both Taemin and Kai for having 'dark skin' during their trainee days.

Source @ 2:34

Thank you for the submission!! Right before that Taemin says something about Kai's dark skin too so i'm adding this as well.