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man the west just looooves thinking that every non-western country and nation is so underdeveloped and so primitive and so in need of help like this just reeks of racism and pretty much just the inability to even humour the idea that the countries that the west loves to think are below them are, in fact, better.
anywho props to all of the countries in africa.
you know what truly disgusts me… being able to feel my own heartbeat. it’s bad. don’t need to actively know what’s going on in there. don’t need to feel that. it’s not any of my business
yeahhh us liberals are super jelly. your guys have overpriced sidewalk chalk (srsly, you know publicists literally just pay like $5k for those stars, right?) + our guy has a literal nobel peace prize. what a flex.
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omg on the switched on pop episode about folklore they said that as an album it has a lot of “sense about adult understanding of one’s responsibility with someone else’s heart” and that’s by far the best description i’ve seen so far
OMG YES I loved their discussion so much more than the new york times popcast. honestly it’s funny how the latter sounded far more pretentious than the former, when the dudes of switched on pop are the actual literal experts on music as a science. if anyone has the right to be braggadocious about that, it’s them, but these two just geeked out the whole time and it was genuinely infotaining (my favorite part was when they parsed out all the particular Swiftian melodic gifts that the album enhanced).
just wanted to leave this @taylorswift quote here for anyone doxxing critics on Twitter. she shouldn’t have to say it, @taylornation shouldn’t have to say it, so I will: STOP IT. Being a stan for fun and rallying to push our queen’s music up the charts and having online listening parties is fine, but threats and harassment isn’t. just shake it off, okay?
I'm getting married in 3 months and I'd already picked the two Taylor lyrics I allowed myself to include in my vows. GOOD LORD WHAT AM I GONNA DO NOW @taylorswift JUST COPY AND PASTE ALL OF INVISIBLE STRING I GUESS
tried to change the ending @taylorswift
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He’s so fucking hot but like RED happened still
That anon who quoted the Vanity Fair article ("a nation that is forever betraying its own people, let alone those around the world.") was, I believe, asking if any of you agree with Lawson's perspective on American foreign policy and, as such, agree that Carrie's rebuilding of Saul's network protects that dangerous power. Now, I'M someone who does agree with Lawson on that, but also with him being "GLAD" about Carrie's decision on "individual terms." Full context matters, anon!
Anonymous: Sara - you quoted Richard Lawsons Vanity Fair piece that included the phrase about A nation that is forever betraying its own people. Let alone those around the world. I found that so surprising that I asked if that’s what you believe? I’m writing again because you said you didn’t understand the question.
Whoops, leave it up to me to fully quote the piece and then have no idea what you’re talking about!
Again, full quote in context:
“In that losing of particular relevance, Homeland found a freedom. The final season’s odd dashes of blinkered hope—its notion that forever picked wounds can somehow also heal—gave the show a mournful glow, allowing for a finale that was jarringly poignant. Why should I be so glad that Carrie is still out there, plugging away, trying to protect some idea of a nation that is forever betraying its own people, let alone those around the world? Because Danes and the writers made us care on individual terms. What worked so well about “Prisoners of War,” I think, is how it stripped away some of the show’s brittle context and compacted itself into a character study.”
Yes, I fully believe that America is forever betraying its own people. I believe this on the show and I believe it in real life. How can you not, at times like these?
Re: the show specifically, they repeat this idea in every season, in new permutations. Carrie, of course, is betrayed by her own country. She’s left to rot in Moscow for months. She never gets to tell the real story of who Brody was (until now). She treks into Pakistan searching for Max because no one else gives a shit. She fights for that fucking flight recorder every step of the way because, again, no one else cares. She’s labeled a traitor, which is true in one specific way but demonstrably false in so many others.
Here is Lawson elaborating on the “individual terms”:
Or, more inclusively, a study of a complicated relationship—mentee and mentor, errant daughter and stern but forgiving father figure. In the final scenes of the episode, Carrie reached out to Saul in furtive fashion two years after she cleaved a seemingly unclosable rift between them—Carrie drugged Saul and almost had Russian agents kill him in order to extract the name of Saul’s mole in the Kremlin. This twist curiously brought to mind the ending of the ravishing French romance Portrait of a Lady on Fire, in which a coded message is discovered, with melancholy joy, after years of painful and irreducible distance.
Maybe it was another Homeland indulgence, to focus the show’s final moments on the emotional journey of these two characters rather than the larger world they so routinely messed around with. As pure narrative television, though, it delivered a disarming wallop, beautifully shot by mainstay director Lesli Linka Glatter, as Carrie sat and enjoyed some of her favorite feverish jazz music at a Moscow theater, smiling a smile not of settled contentment, but of the chase being happily back on.
Carrie is flawed. She is a patriot for a flawed, imperfect nation. Brought up by Saul, in service of his mission, it became theirs together, and that’s what she’s rebuilding at the end: the promise, the hope, for something better. A new paradigm. For her, for them, and maybe for the whole world too.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. America is an idea, after all.
Why was Saul even allowed to make that call? Why would Charlotte let the agents set him free until they had nabbed Anna? One of the agents himself even seemed surprised at that. Also, why wasn’t Carrie’s fallback plan—using Dorit—her plan A? Why go through the trouble of nearly killing Saul? I guess for the drama.
A final quibble: a tiny one that I would’ve fixed with a quick line rewrite: Anna wasn’t “on American soil,” as Scott Ryan implied. Ironically enough, UN Headquarters is considered international territory, exempt from local lie.
The mission wasn’t necessarily to kill Anna or imprison her, just to neutralize her. They needed to know who she was so she would no longer be a source of intelligence. That happened the second Carrie shows Yevgeny Saul’s taped message.
Carrie’s fallback plan wasn’t her first plan because she actually wasn’t sure whether Dorit had the legacy plan instructions in the first place. It was a lucky guess that turned out to be correct.
No retort here just: LOL.
that deserved an LOL, honestly.
i had my plausibility quibbles but the last 5 minutes really sold it for me as they often do with this show. i'm gonna miss you guys so much!
Didn’t I tell y’all the finale would be “Daylight” by Taylor Swift?
I’d say more “New Years Day”
Well that ep for sure piled on the same level of emotional devastation as “Soon You’ll Get Better”
Damn, you’re right:
And I hate to make this all about meBut who am I supposed to talk to?What am I supposed to doIf there’s no you?This won’t go back to normal, if it ever wasIt’s been years of hoping, and I keep saying it because‘Cause I have toOoh-ah, you’ll get betterOoh-ah, soon you’ll get betterOoh-ah, you’ll get better soon
i thought the same thing. my mom passed last March, and when the album came a few months later....yeah.
Name: Ethan (@swiftiepatience)
Answered on: 3/10/20
1. What is your idea of a perfect Homeland ending?
Carrie and Max running a detective agency while she and Yevgeny have a life-long fling, but never a traditional relationship. Saul and Mira reuniting forever in Greece.
2. Which Homeland character do you most identify with?
Max, if he was a flaming queen. His social anxiety and neediness is so me. If I’d had an older sibling, I def would have been the “weird little brother.”
3. What has your experience as a fan of the show been like?
It’s been with me through breakups, career upheavals and family trauma. When I lived at home, I used to watch with my dad every week. When I was younger we watched Alias together, and reruns of My So-Called Life. So when we saw ads for the pilot, we knew it was something special. This season is the first that’s aired since my mom died last year, and the show has been a great bonding tool and distraction for my dad and I, even though we now watch it separately and fervently text about it the next morning instead of spending hours after it airs in the living room speculating.
4. What is a moment on Homeland that made you sit up out of your seat in awe or shock?
Ugh so many: in “The Choice” when the vest video was broadcast; when Carrie realized Dante was working against her; Aayan’s death; the “Game On” reveal…
5. If you could have the writers redo one storytelling decision, what would it be and why?
Every moment of Islamophobia (for obvious reasons, but especially Saul’s infamously bigoted remarks to Fara in S3), and not letting Quinn die at the end of S5 (because he deserved so much better than being tortured for another year and so did I).
6. If you could be a Homeland character, which one would you like to be?
Gonna have to steal Ashley’s answer and say Jessica Brody, purely to have constant satisfying sex with Mike.
7. What is your favorite episode of Homeland?
“The Choice”
8. What is your least favorite episode of Homeland?
Tie between “Redux” and “alt.truth.”
9. If you could bring back one character, dead or alive, from the Homeland graveyard, who would it be and why?
Dead: FARA. This show always needed more smart capable women that Carrie isn’t at odds with. And my heart was so broken for Max.
Alive: MIRA. Saul could use some tea. Like, all the time.
10. What will be your most enduring memory of Homeland?
The day after the season seven finale, because that year I had found a colleague that loved the show as much as me, and we were both aghast at what might have happened to Carrie.
And, of course, discovering HYH.
thank you ladies this was fun!
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