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[allamericandaily]

OLIVIA BAKER & SPENCER JAMES ALL AMERICAN | 4.13 “Jump On It”

[pinky369]

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HEY !!!! I posted another part of my therapy series for Olivia, PLEASE READ AND SHARE IF YOU LOVE IT !!! I really appreciate it and I hope you guys like it ! 💗

Spelivia ONE SHOTS - Therapy: Part 2

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[teendramas]

OLIVIA BAKER ALL AMERICAN S4 | BEST OUTFITS

[allamericandaily]

OLIVIA BAKER ALL AMERICAN | 3.01 “Seasons Pass”

[pinky369]

hey guys !! I know it’s been a minute since I posted anything on Wattpad as I’ve been having writers block, but I’m finally coming at you with something new that I hope you enjoy !! I hope y’all enjoy this part and the parts that are coming as so many of us has wanted the show to acknowledge and address how Olivia is doing mentally and her mental health in general as she’s been through a lot (and fingers crossed that they’ll do it in S5 so let’s start manifesting) I hope you enjoy this first pasty and PLEASE SHARE if you do ! 💗

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Spelivia ONE SHOTS - Therapy: Part 1

Read Therapy: Part 1 from the story Spelivia ONE SHOTS by JessicaMcCray (Jessica McCray) with 1 reads. billybaker, ol...

[pinky369]

It would be different if they didn’t really highlight mental health on the show with anyone, but it’s the fact that they acknowledge it and use mental health as a driving point of why people should watch cause they wanna highlight mental health within the black community especially and show empathy to everyone that struggles with all types of mental illnesses/disorders (and AS THEY SHOULD cause that’s VERY important and necessary to show, especially in the black community as there’s still so many stigmas)

So what’s really disappointing is that they completely disregard Olivia when it comes to mental health and she’s a character that struggles with so many. They tell that POV with Layla, Spencer, Jordan, even the parents when Spencer suggested that Grace go see Dr. Spears and Billy and Laura had that family therapy session (that was more so for them). Olivia has been through an overdose (and was taken advantage of by someone the night of that overdose), went through rehab alone and came back alone with no support. Felt neglected/overlooked by her family and loved ones (and that’s cause she was). Her whole journey is finding and utilizing her voice and carving out her own diet and not being tied to someone/something else. Then, she literally went through A WHOLE SHOOTING where not only she was shot at and almost died, but her best friend got shot in front of her and almost died, had to keep him from dying, had his blood all over her and had PTSD from it by not being able to sleep and being scared by loud sounds in public. Then she went through a whole relapse and you didn’t even go into what led her into her relapse and blamed her for it and then the whole tamika Pratt situation and getting harassed by the cops. Now, she got swatted and had been harassed in person, online and over the phone and is losing everything and getting stress/anxiety from work, etc. and you mean to tell me this isn’t mentally damaging to anyone ?? Especially since she hasn’t healed through any of it ??? And you’re going to blatantly ignore it ???

And to make matters worse, he literally said that she had this “addictive energy” and is “disruptive” and they use that for drama and that’s so disgusting to me cause that’s going to show that you have no respect for anyone who may or does struggle with addiction and only use it as a plot point instead of using it to tell a story and spread awareness and teach people to have empathy and MUCH MORE PEOPLE need to call out the writers for that and also them literally using SA as a plot device to make drama and/or push two people together for a ship and they did that TWICE. Sam and Olivia deserves SO MUCH BETTER, especially knowing that Sam is such a huge advocate for mental health as she hosted a podcast talking about mental health within the youth and had been open about her own struggles with mental health and is even more passionate about Olivia and spelivia than we are and IT SUCKS

and don’t even get me started on how they keep dismissing Simone more and more in favor of a lightskinned ship (but if you seen my other posts, you know I’ve already gotten started on that and how their colorism along with the fans’ very REEKING colorism is VERY MUCH SHOWING). Geffri/ Simone also deserves SO MUCH BETTER.

[speliviya]

Yo when he said “they have so much chemistry and look so good together” as opposed to WHOM?! Saying the quiet part out loud…

This show is DRENCHED in colorism and misogyny. If I didn’t love and respect the cast so much I would’ve dropped this show long ago.

[pinky369]

EXACTLY and that post on the accounts that went from a picture of simone looking “angry” or “emotional” and in a protective hair style to picture of Layla looking happy and bright and sweet was honestly VERY telling and them always punishing the women for wanting to pursue something for themselves and their careers or having them sacrifice something or uproot their life for their man and their career is just gross

[pinky369]

It would be different if they didn’t really highlight mental health on the show with anyone, but it’s the fact that they acknowledge it and use mental health as a driving point of why people should watch cause they wanna highlight mental health within the black community especially and show empathy to everyone that struggles with all types of mental illnesses/disorders (and AS THEY SHOULD cause that’s VERY important and necessary to show, especially in the black community as there’s still so many stigmas)

So what’s really disappointing is that they completely disregard Olivia when it comes to mental health and she’s a character that struggles with so many. They tell that POV with Layla, Spencer, Jordan, even the parents when Spencer suggested that Grace go see Dr. Spears and Billy and Laura had that family therapy session (that was more so for them). Olivia has been through an overdose (and was taken advantage of by someone the night of that overdose), went through rehab alone and came back alone with no support. Felt neglected/overlooked by her family and loved ones (and that’s cause she was). Her whole journey is finding and utilizing her voice and carving out her own diet and not being tied to someone/something else. Then, she literally went through A WHOLE SHOOTING where not only she was shot at and almost died, but her best friend got shot in front of her and almost died, had to keep him from dying, had his blood all over her and had PTSD from it by not being able to sleep and being scared by loud sounds in public. Then she went through a whole relapse and you didn’t even go into what led her into her relapse and blamed her for it and then the whole tamika Pratt situation and getting harassed by the cops. Now, she got swatted and had been harassed in person, online and over the phone and is losing everything and getting stress/anxiety from work, etc. and you mean to tell me this isn’t mentally damaging to anyone ?? Especially since she hasn’t healed through any of it ??? And you’re going to blatantly ignore it ???

And to make matters worse, he literally said that she had this “addictive energy” and is “disruptive” and they use that for drama and that’s so disgusting to me cause that’s going to show that you have no respect for anyone who may or does struggle with addiction and only use it as a plot point instead of using it to tell a story and spread awareness and teach people to have empathy and MUCH MORE PEOPLE need to call out the writers for that and also them literally using SA as a plot device to make drama and/or push two people together for a ship and they did that TWICE. Sam and Olivia deserves SO MUCH BETTER, especially knowing that Sam is such a huge advocate for mental health as she hosted a podcast talking about mental health within the youth and had been open about her own struggles with mental health and is even more passionate about Olivia and spelivia than we are and IT SUCKS

and don’t even get me started on how they keep dismissing Simone more and more in favor of a lightskinned ship (but if you seen my other posts, you know I’ve already gotten started on that and how their colorism along with the fans’ very REEKING colorism is VERY MUCH SHOWING). Geffri/ Simone also deserves SO MUCH BETTER.

[pinky369]

Show: *tells everyone’s stories from their POVs, even if they’re more of a side character*

Us: “can you go into depth about Olivia’s POV and her mental health, given that she’s been put through a lot and tell more about her addiction/sobriety journey ?

A writer: “oh well, we’re telling this story from Spencer’s POV”

Olivia is her own character with her own storylines (and is used to drive storylines and brings new characters into the show) and all types of people connect to her character and her character alone given her journey and saying that downgrades her to just being his girlfriend and that’s low and disrespectful to the character that you’ve built since S1

[pinky369]

All American trying to be the “not like other girls” of teen dramas is exactly what’s ruining the show. Them not feeding into certain cliches are ruining the show for them. Cliches are cliches for a reason and it’s because people love a lot of them like you could easily done a pregnancy scare as a cliffhanger for spelivia and we would’ve all ATE THAT UP.

Then having these teenagers act like grown adults and give them adult issues while being freshmen in college and being 18/19 years old is HURTING THEM DEEPLY. There’s no reason as to why Liv, an 18 year old college freshman, has a full time job at the LA Tribune when she doesn’t have her degree yet. It’s unrealistic along with Layla having a whole record label. Most people at this age is not this career oriented and THATS OKAY. They’re in college, why haven’t we seen them live the college experience ??? Why not see them have college related fun and struggles ??? They’re acting as if they’re 25-30 years old and that’s cause they’re (the writers) including themselves and they need TO STOP.

Why continuously have the women either be “punished” for pursuing or wanting to pursue something for themselves (as it’s some thing we should all want to do and it’s in our right) or they have them sacrifice everything for the sake of their relationship while having the men be able to have it all and be happy ???? MISOGYNISTIC ASF and it’s very disappointing when it’s a career-driven woman as the showrunner and she’s allowing this type of backwards misogyny on her show and since she’s such a big fan as using this show to teach lessons to her children, is this the type of lessons you wanna teach and show ?

[pinky369]

It’s SO frustrating cause Olivia is one of the best characters of the whole show and she’s my favorite because of what she has shown and because the growth she has shown. Her character has not only touched me, but the audience as a whole and we all related to her and her experience whether it’s her addiction/sobriety or her feeling neglected/overlooked by her loved ones or finally finding her voice through your experiences and wanting justice for others and finding/embracing her value and worth or always putting others first and not yourself.

I’ve literally been begging for her to finally put herself first and pursue what she wants and better herself and her career and carve out her own identity, but they’re doing it in such a way that’s so misogynistic and creating the backwards way of “choosing either your relationship or her career” when she not any other woman should have to choose and should have everything she wants. Why punish her for wanting something for herself, something that everyone should strive for ?? They’re willing to destroy such a loved character (their ultimate fan favorite and most popular character btw) and their most loved ship (they literally have so much impact outside the show and is the only reason why most people are watching) over drama that they even acknowledged don’t make any sense all for the sense of wanting conflict so that they’re not “boring” and it’s such a shame

It’s not only disrespectful to us, the actors but it’s showing disrespect to themselves cause if you were gonna mess with them over such contrived and forced and minor stuff, why spend so much time and writing such beautiful development for this couple and both characters ?

They still have time to fix all of this mess and reverse this damage cause they need to not go down this route or they can kiss this show goodbye as they literally carry the show. I can’t believe they’re so arrogant where they say that they don’t give into the fans criticisms, acknowledge that their careers don’t intersect and bending their character for NONSENSE DRAMA. They’re legit ruining their own show and I want them to prove us wrong so badly. If Sam wanted to leave, I wouldn’t blame her as I want her, Daniel, Greta and the whole cast to find better opportunities that will actually appreciate their hard work and give them material that levels up to their talent. Sam is literally EVEN MORE passionate about Olivia and spelivia so it must suck for her as well.

I hate this.

[pinky369]

Apparently, if you’re a woman on All American, you can’t rightfully pursue what you want for yourself and your dreams and better your career without messing with you relationship and vice versa 🙄 like we already been knew that the writers be misogynistic ASF, but today with that interview with the writer that wrote the finale definitely confirmed it.

Why do they keep making problems in the girls’ lives and messing with their career/relationships ? They already did it with Simone and how they had her miss prom for a tennis tournament in order to better her college career and her “punishment” was Jordan connecting with someone else aka Layla. They have both Laura and Grace uproot their lives for the men and their careers (as they’re about to have grace move away to follow carter). And now, they’re having Olivia wanting to pursue her career and her dreams and AS SHE SHOULD because she deserves that but her “punishment” is messing with her relationship, a relationship that gives her so much happiness and one she always wanted. The woman shouldn’t have to lose anything or sacrifice anything for something that she wants for herself like her career so why keep feeding into those horrible and misogynistic ideas ??? You can just TELL that this show is written by mostly men and I don’t understand how NK, A WOMAN, is okay with telling this type of message that women aren’t able to have it all (because we most certainly can and should be able to) while with the men, they’re able to have it all and be happy and make it feel like we should feel sorry for them like THATS NOT RIGHT AT ALL

Also, them wanting to mess with the ONE thing that brings them views and keeping their show afloat is mad bold and idiotic like how are you gonna write for the show but you can’t even explain what you wrote ??? Like he literally was asked about the “pretending” thing and he couldn’t even really explain it and HE WROTE IT !!! That’s how you know it doesn’t make sense and then he said “in reality, their dreams shouldn’t and don’t intersect” so WHY ARE YOU FORCING THIS INTERSECTION and making NONSENSE out of it ??? If you can’t even explain what you wrote, maybe you shouldn’t be writing it and that it doesn’t make a lick of sense

They need to reverse this idea and the damage they made and start listening to the fans cause after all, your fans is why you’re still on air so the fact that you said that you ignore them is BS and incorporating yourselves into TEENAGERS is wild like they are teenagers that just started college so why are you having them act like they’re married with kids ? It’s not fair to anyone and especially not to the actors and Daniel and Sam (let alone the WHOLE ENTIRE cast) deserves so much better than this. THE WOMEN CHARACTERS deserve so so so much better than this misogynistic writing

With the women, it’s either they have them pursue what they want (as they should), but make it seem as if they’re selfish villains (even though they’re not cause pursuing your career and what you want for yourself is something EVERYONE should do) or they have them sacrifice everything for the men like HOW IS THAT RIGHT ?? I don’t understand how NK, who’s a career-driven women, don’t know how to tend to career-driven women characters and always want to throw them under the bus in the sake for unnecessary drama

And screwing with spelivia is possibly the DUMBEST decision they could make as they’re the reason why people watch and with the impact that they have outside the show, why would you want to mess with them ???

[pinky369]

People that think that Olivia has to “prove” her love for Spencer or needs to do more or do all of these big gestures to prove her love or that she deserves to be love is full of BS and honestly had a very immature view on love and how relationships work

Of course, the big gestures is adorable and very much appreciated and makes us feel special, etc. and we love that Spencer does that, but big gestures isn’t the only way to prove love to someone and shouldn’t be like it’s also about the little things and the everyday things and loving someone in THEIR love language and not yours and while Spencer has done an amazing job at that, so has Olivia and that has been proven over the 4th season, let alone the whole show in its entirety like that shouldn’t be questioned in the slightest. From her showing up at the cemetery when he was visiting his dad so that he wouldn’t be alone, to setting up an intervention when Grace when he wouldn’t sign to Toledo, to literally defending Spencer to her dad and brother and even defending Spencer when Spencer is talking about himself lol, to always supporting him and watching all of his games, no matter if she was mad or not and did a watch party when she wasn’t there, to encouraging him to do what’s best for his future from his college situation to going to his own events to celebrate himself and was still willing to go if he didn’t want to and even in the stuff that she has said to him and about him, etc. and in her even listening to him and how his day went and always willing to understand his perspective and help him out and willing to drop articles that would’ve jumpstarted her career and taking herself out of his busy schedule so that he’ll have an easier time adjusting and being with his team like her love shouldn’t be questioned just because there’s no giant gestures and she has never done big gestures anyways in other seasons and her love wasn’t questioned so why question it now ?

Both of them has done an FANTASTIC job at making each other feel loved and given their pasts, especially Olivia’s and how she wasn’t really shown love or the love that she wanted and preferred. Also, I thought we have all concluded that she is not okay at all mentally and emotionally and when your mental health is compromised, that makes everything different and it’s unfair to fully expect that given that she’s going through a rough time and won’t even say anything so that he or anyone else would have another thing to worry about when it comes to her and she should also prioritize the relationship she has with herself as anyone should along with her relationship w/ Spencer. Working on herself should be a main focus for her and her working on her relationship with herself and working through her issues in a healthy way and she should be able to do that and form her own identity while being with Spencer. The way some people want it, it sounds like they want her to lose herself in “proving” her love for Spencer and sacrifice everything for him when that’s the problem; you shouldn’t have to sacrifice anything for your relationship and should have an identity outside of the relationship and her wanting to better her career doesn’t mean she loves him less (like do y’all care about her outside of this relationship or not lol)

Also, their love languages could be and probably are different like Liv is clearly a hopeless romantic (and it’s adorable) and she’s not used to receiving this type of love and loves movies, etc. so the big gestures is probably more up her alley along with the little, everyday things while Spencer really appreciates the little things like how he doesn’t have to fully explain himself because she automatically understands and gets him and willing to see things through his perspective and being fully there for him and encouraging him and supports (something that they both do) and them loving each other in their love languages is a very beautiful thing to see and not to be questioned.

[emily70707]

She clearly loves him a lot if not the most, there's no doubt about that.

[pinky369]

exactly and there shouldn’t be any doubt about that, but some people are just dumb and have an immature idea when it comes to love cause she clearly loves him the most. This is another reason on why they need to do a deep dive for Olivia and tell from her POV as far as her mental health goes cause with her stress and anxiety being at an all time high, that can also bring up unhealed trauma and feelings that needs to be acknowledged and worked through in therapy and they honestly have no other choice but to do that for her and have that be her major focal point

[emily70707]

We have never gone into her mental health at all, it's always brushed over and then onto the next problem. Especially, after everything she has been put through its long overdue. I really wish the writers wouldn't give her work stress like 3 months into the whole thing, but you know my opinions on that whole thing.

[pinky369]

She has so much unpacked and unhealed trauma that is yet to be addressed and with her not doing well at the moment, S5 is the perfect time to put her into therapy and have her finally address it and work through those issues in a healthy manner and to not only better her relationships with others but most importantly, better her relationship with herself and how she sees herself cause that can and does truly impact everything that’s going on now and it’s about time they go into her mental health and have it be a main focal point cause it’s honestly so relatable and a story that needs to be told and it’s much more important that unnecessary contrived drama that she doesn’t have to be involved in.

[pinky369]

you shouldn’t have to do only big gestures in order to prove your love to someone or to prove that you deserve to be loved and for the people that think so have a very immature idea of love cause while big gestures are appreciated and important, what’s really important are the little/everyday things and showing effort through that as well and being supportive and being an equal partner and good person and loving someone in their love language and Olivia does a great job with that and has done a great job with that throughout the whole show, especially given her past and how she’s not used to that and just because big gestures aren’t done doesn’t mean she loves him any less cause she’s just as down for him as he is for her and the way they show their love for each other through their love languages is beautiful. Love isn’t only shown through big gestures and shouldn’t have to be.

[emily70707]

I mean this is the girl who has three pictures of him on her nightstands. 

[pinky369]

exactly and the same girl that gets sad whenever he leaves and comes to every single one of his games

[pinky369]

People that think that Olivia has to “prove” her love for Spencer or needs to do more or do all of these big gestures to prove her love or that she deserves to be love is full of BS and honestly had a very immature view on love and how relationships work

Of course, the big gestures is adorable and very much appreciated and makes us feel special, etc. and we love that Spencer does that, but big gestures isn’t the only way to prove love to someone and shouldn’t be like it’s also about the little things and the everyday things and loving someone in THEIR love language and not yours and while Spencer has done an amazing job at that, so has Olivia and that has been proven over the 4th season, let alone the whole show in its entirety like that shouldn’t be questioned in the slightest. From her showing up at the cemetery when he was visiting his dad so that he wouldn’t be alone, to setting up an intervention when Grace when he wouldn’t sign to Toledo, to literally defending Spencer to her dad and brother and even defending Spencer when Spencer is talking about himself lol, to always supporting him and watching all of his games, no matter if she was mad or not and did a watch party when she wasn’t there, to encouraging him to do what’s best for his future from his college situation to going to his own events to celebrate himself and was still willing to go if he didn’t want to and even in the stuff that she has said to him and about him, etc. and in her even listening to him and how his day went and always willing to understand his perspective and help him out and willing to drop articles that would’ve jumpstarted her career and taking herself out of his busy schedule so that he’ll have an easier time adjusting and being with his team like her love shouldn’t be questioned just because there’s no giant gestures and she has never done big gestures anyways in other seasons and her love wasn’t questioned so why question it now ?

Both of them has done an FANTASTIC job at making each other feel loved and given their pasts, especially Olivia’s and how she wasn’t really shown love or the love that she wanted and preferred. Also, I thought we have all concluded that she is not okay at all mentally and emotionally and when your mental health is compromised, that makes everything different and it’s unfair to fully expect that given that she’s going through a rough time and won’t even say anything so that he or anyone else would have another thing to worry about when it comes to her and she should also prioritize the relationship she has with herself as anyone should along with her relationship w/ Spencer. Working on herself should be a main focus for her and her working on her relationship with herself and working through her issues in a healthy way and she should be able to do that and form her own identity while being with Spencer. The way some people want it, it sounds like they want her to lose herself in “proving” her love for Spencer and sacrifice everything for him when that’s the problem; you shouldn’t have to sacrifice anything for your relationship and should have an identity outside of the relationship and her wanting to better her career doesn’t mean she loves him less (like do y’all care about her outside of this relationship or not lol)

Also, their love languages could be and probably are different like Liv is clearly a hopeless romantic (and it’s adorable) and she’s not used to receiving this type of love and loves movies, etc. so the big gestures is probably more up her alley along with the little, everyday things while Spencer really appreciates the little things like how he doesn’t have to fully explain himself because she automatically understands and gets him and willing to see things through his perspective and being fully there for him and encouraging him and supports (something that they both do) and them loving each other in their love languages is a very beautiful thing to see and not to be questioned.

[emily70707]

She clearly loves him a lot if not the most, there's no doubt about that.

[pinky369]

exactly and there shouldn’t be any doubt about that, but some people are just dumb and have an immature idea when it comes to love cause she clearly loves him the most. This is another reason on why they need to do a deep dive for Olivia and tell from her POV as far as her mental health goes cause with her stress and anxiety being at an all time high, that can also bring up unhealed trauma and feelings that needs to be acknowledged and worked through in therapy and they honestly have no other choice but to do that for her and have that be her major focal point

[emily70707]

We have never gone into her mental health at all, it's always brushed over and then onto the next problem. Especially, after everything she has been put through its long overdue. I really wish the writers wouldn't give her work stress like 3 months into the whole thing, but you know my opinions on that whole thing.

[pinky369]

She has so much unpacked and unhealed trauma that is yet to be addressed and with her not doing well at the moment, S5 is the perfect time to put her into therapy and have her finally address it and work through those issues in a healthy manner and to not only better her relationships with others but most importantly, better her relationship with herself and how she sees herself cause that can and does truly impact everything that’s going on now and it’s about time they go into her mental health and have it be a main focal point cause it’s honestly so relatable and a story that needs to be told and it’s much more important that unnecessary contrived drama that she doesn’t have to be involved in.

[pinky369]

you shouldn’t have to do only big gestures in order to prove your love to someone or to prove that you deserve to be loved and for the people that think so have a very immature idea of love cause while big gestures are appreciated and important, what’s really important are the little/everyday things and showing effort through that as well and being supportive and being an equal partner and good person and loving someone in their love language and Olivia does a great job with that and has done a great job with that throughout the whole show, especially given her past and how she’s not used to that and just because big gestures aren’t done doesn’t mean she loves him any less cause she’s just as down for him as he is for her and the way they show their love for each other through their love languages is beautiful. Love isn’t only shown through big gestures and shouldn’t have to be.

[pinky369]

People that think that Olivia has to “prove” her love for Spencer or needs to do more or do all of these big gestures to prove her love or that she deserves to be love is full of BS and honestly had a very immature view on love and how relationships work

Of course, the big gestures is adorable and very much appreciated and makes us feel special, etc. and we love that Spencer does that, but big gestures isn’t the only way to prove love to someone and shouldn’t be like it’s also about the little things and the everyday things and loving someone in THEIR love language and not yours and while Spencer has done an amazing job at that, so has Olivia and that has been proven over the 4th season, let alone the whole show in its entirety like that shouldn’t be questioned in the slightest. From her showing up at the cemetery when he was visiting his dad so that he wouldn’t be alone, to setting up an intervention when Grace when he wouldn’t sign to Toledo, to literally defending Spencer to her dad and brother and even defending Spencer when Spencer is talking about himself lol, to always supporting him and watching all of his games, no matter if she was mad or not and did a watch party when she wasn’t there, to encouraging him to do what’s best for his future from his college situation to going to his own events to celebrate himself and was still willing to go if he didn’t want to and even in the stuff that she has said to him and about him, etc. and in her even listening to him and how his day went and always willing to understand his perspective and help him out and willing to drop articles that would’ve jumpstarted her career and taking herself out of his busy schedule so that he’ll have an easier time adjusting and being with his team like her love shouldn’t be questioned just because there’s no giant gestures and she has never done big gestures anyways in other seasons and her love wasn’t questioned so why question it now ?

Both of them has done an FANTASTIC job at making each other feel loved and given their pasts, especially Olivia’s and how she wasn’t really shown love or the love that she wanted and preferred. Also, I thought we have all concluded that she is not okay at all mentally and emotionally and when your mental health is compromised, that makes everything different and it’s unfair to fully expect that given that she’s going through a rough time and won’t even say anything so that he or anyone else would have another thing to worry about when it comes to her and she should also prioritize the relationship she has with herself as anyone should along with her relationship w/ Spencer. Working on herself should be a main focus for her and her working on her relationship with herself and working through her issues in a healthy way and she should be able to do that and form her own identity while being with Spencer. The way some people want it, it sounds like they want her to lose herself in “proving” her love for Spencer and sacrifice everything for him when that’s the problem; you shouldn’t have to sacrifice anything for your relationship and should have an identity outside of the relationship and her wanting to better her career doesn’t mean she loves him less (like do y’all care about her outside of this relationship or not lol)

Also, their love languages could be and probably are different like Liv is clearly a hopeless romantic (and it’s adorable) and she’s not used to receiving this type of love and loves movies, etc. so the big gestures is probably more up her alley along with the little, everyday things while Spencer really appreciates the little things like how he doesn’t have to fully explain himself because she automatically understands and gets him and willing to see things through his perspective and being fully there for him and encouraging him and supports (something that they both do) and them loving each other in their love languages is a very beautiful thing to see and not to be questioned.

[emily70707]

She clearly loves him a lot if not the most, there's no doubt about that.

[pinky369]

exactly and there shouldn’t be any doubt about that, but some people are just dumb and have an immature idea when it comes to love cause she clearly loves him the most. This is another reason on why they need to do a deep dive for Olivia and tell from her POV as far as her mental health goes cause with her stress and anxiety being at an all time high, that can also bring up unhealed trauma and feelings that needs to be acknowledged and worked through in therapy and they honestly have no other choice but to do that for her and have that be her major focal point

[emily70707]

We have never gone into her mental health at all, it's always brushed over and then onto the next problem. Especially, after everything she has been put through its long overdue. I really wish the writers wouldn't give her work stress like 3 months into the whole thing, but you know my opinions on that whole thing.

[pinky369]

She has so much unpacked and unhealed trauma that is yet to be addressed and with her not doing well at the moment, S5 is the perfect time to put her into therapy and have her finally address it and work through those issues in a healthy manner and to not only better her relationships with others but most importantly, better her relationship with herself and how she sees herself cause that can and does truly impact everything that’s going on now and it’s about time they go into her mental health and have it be a main focal point cause it’s honestly so relatable and a story that needs to be told and it’s much more important that unnecessary contrived drama that she doesn’t have to be involved in.

[pinky369]

People that think that Olivia has to “prove” her love for Spencer or needs to do more or do all of these big gestures to prove her love or that she deserves to be love is full of BS and honestly had a very immature view on love and how relationships work

Of course, the big gestures is adorable and very much appreciated and makes us feel special, etc. and we love that Spencer does that, but big gestures isn’t the only way to prove love to someone and shouldn’t be like it’s also about the little things and the everyday things and loving someone in THEIR love language and not yours and while Spencer has done an amazing job at that, so has Olivia and that has been proven over the 4th season, let alone the whole show in its entirety like that shouldn’t be questioned in the slightest. From her showing up at the cemetery when he was visiting his dad so that he wouldn’t be alone, to setting up an intervention when Grace when he wouldn’t sign to Toledo, to literally defending Spencer to her dad and brother and even defending Spencer when Spencer is talking about himself lol, to always supporting him and watching all of his games, no matter if she was mad or not and did a watch party when she wasn’t there, to encouraging him to do what’s best for his future from his college situation to going to his own events to celebrate himself and was still willing to go if he didn’t want to and even in the stuff that she has said to him and about him, etc. and in her even listening to him and how his day went and always willing to understand his perspective and help him out and willing to drop articles that would’ve jumpstarted her career and taking herself out of his busy schedule so that he’ll have an easier time adjusting and being with his team like her love shouldn’t be questioned just because there’s no giant gestures and she has never done big gestures anyways in other seasons and her love wasn’t questioned so why question it now ?

Both of them has done an FANTASTIC job at making each other feel loved and given their pasts, especially Olivia’s and how she wasn’t really shown love or the love that she wanted and preferred. Also, I thought we have all concluded that she is not okay at all mentally and emotionally and when your mental health is compromised, that makes everything different and it’s unfair to fully expect that given that she’s going through a rough time and won’t even say anything so that he or anyone else would have another thing to worry about when it comes to her and she should also prioritize the relationship she has with herself as anyone should along with her relationship w/ Spencer. Working on herself should be a main focus for her and her working on her relationship with herself and working through her issues in a healthy way and she should be able to do that and form her own identity while being with Spencer. The way some people want it, it sounds like they want her to lose herself in “proving” her love for Spencer and sacrifice everything for him when that’s the problem; you shouldn’t have to sacrifice anything for your relationship and should have an identity outside of the relationship and her wanting to better her career doesn’t mean she loves him less (like do y’all care about her outside of this relationship or not lol)

Also, their love languages could be and probably are different like Liv is clearly a hopeless romantic (and it’s adorable) and she’s not used to receiving this type of love and loves movies, etc. so the big gestures is probably more up her alley along with the little, everyday things while Spencer really appreciates the little things like how he doesn’t have to fully explain himself because she automatically understands and gets him and willing to see things through his perspective and being fully there for him and encouraging him and supports (something that they both do) and them loving each other in their love languages is a very beautiful thing to see and not to be questioned.

[emily70707]

She clearly loves him a lot if not the most, there's no doubt about that.

[pinky369]

exactly and there shouldn’t be any doubt about that, but some people are just dumb and have an immature idea when it comes to love cause she clearly loves him the most. This is another reason on why they need to do a deep dive for Olivia and tell from her POV as far as her mental health goes cause with her stress and anxiety being at an all time high, that can also bring up unhealed trauma and feelings that needs to be acknowledged and worked through in therapy and they honestly have no other choice but to do that for her and have that be her major focal point

[pinky369]

People that think that Olivia has to “prove” her love for Spencer or needs to do more or do all of these big gestures to prove her love or that she deserves to be love is full of BS and honestly had a very immature view on love and how relationships work

Of course, the big gestures is adorable and very much appreciated and makes us feel special, etc. and we love that Spencer does that, but big gestures isn’t the only way to prove love to someone and shouldn’t be like it’s also about the little things and the everyday things and loving someone in THEIR love language and not yours and while Spencer has done an amazing job at that, so has Olivia and that has been proven over the 4th season, let alone the whole show in its entirety like that shouldn’t be questioned in the slightest. From her showing up at the cemetery when he was visiting his dad so that he wouldn’t be alone, to setting up an intervention when Grace when he wouldn’t sign to Toledo, to literally defending Spencer to her dad and brother and even defending Spencer when Spencer is talking about himself lol, to always supporting him and watching all of his games, no matter if she was mad or not and did a watch party when she wasn’t there, to encouraging him to do what’s best for his future from his college situation to going to his own events to celebrate himself and was still willing to go if he didn’t want to and even in the stuff that she has said to him and about him, etc. and in her even listening to him and how his day went and always willing to understand his perspective and help him out and willing to drop articles that would’ve jumpstarted her career and taking herself out of his busy schedule so that he’ll have an easier time adjusting and being with his team like her love shouldn’t be questioned just because there’s no giant gestures and she has never done big gestures anyways in other seasons and her love wasn’t questioned so why question it now ?

Both of them has done an FANTASTIC job at making each other feel loved and given their pasts, especially Olivia’s and how she wasn’t really shown love or the love that she wanted and preferred. Also, I thought we have all concluded that she is not okay at all mentally and emotionally and when your mental health is compromised, that makes everything different and it’s unfair to fully expect that given that she’s going through a rough time and won’t even say anything so that he or anyone else would have another thing to worry about when it comes to her and she should also prioritize the relationship she has with herself as anyone should along with her relationship w/ Spencer. Working on herself should be a main focus for her and her working on her relationship with herself and working through her issues in a healthy way and she should be able to do that and form her own identity while being with Spencer. The way some people want it, it sounds like they want her to lose herself in “proving” her love for Spencer and sacrifice everything for him when that’s the problem; you shouldn’t have to sacrifice anything for your relationship and should have an identity outside of the relationship and her wanting to better her career doesn’t mean she loves him less (like do y’all care about her outside of this relationship or not lol)

Also, their love languages could be and probably are different like Liv is clearly a hopeless romantic (and it’s adorable) and she’s not used to receiving this type of love and loves movies, etc. so the big gestures is probably more up her alley along with the little, everyday things while Spencer really appreciates the little things like how he doesn’t have to fully explain himself because she automatically understands and gets him and willing to see things through his perspective and being fully there for him and encouraging him and supports (something that they both do) and them loving each other in their love languages is a very beautiful thing to see and not to be questioned.

[pinky369]

Combining town of my favorite shows, I have concluded to the fact that Olivia is literally a perfect combination of Alex Crane and Simone Davis from STAR like a PERFECT MIX

One thing I always loved about Alex was how confident she always was and how hardworking she was and I feel as though Liv is like that. Liv in this past season was noticeably more confident in herself and in her abilities, just like Alex and she’s also very determined and hardworking like Alex. Also, they both have that sass and baddie energy and they’re the queens of eyerolls lol

With Simone, they both share that soft and reserved trait. Along with the obvious of both being addicts, they both have that fear of disappointing the people they love and want to prove them and themselves wrong. They’re also both really witty/sarcastic with their comebacks/remarks. I also think that they’re both more laidback and chill along with being very impulsive and passionate about what they believe in and in the people they love/care about.

Also, ALL THREE ARE GORGEOUS ASF and I could just see all the girls from both shows being best friends (maybe except Star lol)

I just love all three of these women along with the actresses that play them and everyone should too and all three characters are very similar, at least to me and if you find any more traits they share, please tell me !!