chuuli

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[poppydu]

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[surviving-the-internet]

sorry, but that anon comparing ponder to lily out of all people is very bonkers to me, because it's two completely different situations. so no, from what Ive seen ppl are giving ponder more grace bc of their biases against chuuli and lio (who is actually awful and has also covered up for child predators. Multiple times. he's doing it now too, just nobody seems to care for some reason ?) more than liking ponder, who everyone agrees was irresponsible and should have done more. and lily orchard is a rapist. i think there is a big difference here.

Honestly yeah I can see that being a big thing. Lily is a rapist and child groomer.... Ponder is certainly not that far.

Thank you for pointing that out anon!

[you-can-eat-hrts]

I'm sorry what? Ponder is not a rapist or a child groomer.

What are you on about?

Does Chuuli have proof to back up these accusations or are they throwing out whatever sticks?

[surviving-the-internet]

I think that the person who originally said something to me was trying to grab onto "person people actively acknowledge the fault of" vs "person people don't acknowledge as having any fault whatsoever and actively harass the victim of"- but it isn't a good comparision and seems to have been primarily emotional. Here's the original comparison the other anon made that I did not do my due diligence to push back on initially, as I should have.

Post by @surviving-the-internet

💬 0  🔁 0  ❤️ 5 · I've been keeping track of the stuff w ponder and chuuli and i need to watch that video asap the amount of people who are

Ponder has been proven to not have been responsible with the way she ran her server, and instead of separating a predatory adult from a child, stayed a bystander. This led to more harm and happened with multiple predatory adults, all with the same child. Ponder is absolutely NOT a rapist or a child groomer- she did, however, due to her own inaction, enable child grooming. This is something I believe is morally wrong. I believe every adult has a responsibility to always call out abuse and predation on a child when they see it. To not ban an adult in your server who is being sexual with a child is to let abuse happen. But there is an important distinction between someone who enables things and someone who actively does them.

[cd-call-critical]

I disagree with the idea that every adult on the internet is responsible for the minors that exist around them. I think Ponder should never have befriended Chuuli and should have blocked Chuuli from interacting in her discord chats.

I feel like a lot of problems would have been solved that way but that's not what Ponder did. Ponder befriended Chuuli, who was a teenager - not a kid. ( kid is 5- 10 years old , pre teen is 11-12 , teenager is 13-17 years old. ) Chuuli was a teenager.

Ponder befriending a teenager is not inherently proof that Ponder is a pedophile.

It's great that you admit this here but in this post , you contradict yourself.

https://www.tumblr.com/surviving-the-internet/805948638523179009/its-incredibly-insulting-for-you-to-be-accusing?source=share

I don't think that Ponder enabled grooming , i feel that's unfair to pin on her simply because she didn't know that her friends ( Kayden, Feghost and Avi ) were groomers in disguise. We can't do guilt by association in a picking and choosing way. If mere assocaition with a groomer is enough to call someone that then where's the vitrol towards Lio Convoy ?

He was good friends with Doodletones for years and stood up for her multiple times.

Ponder is not a predator, a groomer, or a pedophile. She's just someone who trusted the wrong people.

Again , Chuuli should not have been allowed to be Ponder's friend or be in her discord. But saying that is not the same thing as claiming she's dangerous to be around minors.

I'm saying that teenagers shouldn't be hanging out with adults in the first place. Saying that adults should be responsible for minors in their orbit sets a dangerous status of teenagers trusting random internet people to have their best interests at heart.

That is how minors get groomed.

[surviving-the-internet]

1. Teenagers are still children. They are still kids. They're just not little kids.

2. I never called her a pedophile.

3. She was active in a conversation where a grown man (Junkie) discussed getting softcore pornography from Chuuli and she did not step in. The other case is when another grown man (Kayden) sexualized her on a call that Ponder was present for. Even someone intoxicated should be able to kick a guy hitting up a child.

4. You're twisting my words to try and make it sound dangerous when in reality reporting things to the police, kicking abusive individuals from your spaces, and separating a child from an ACTIVE PREDATOR is the bare fucking minimum and has nothing to do with being a safe person. That's what you do if you want to be seen as a person with human decency. That's what's always expected of every adult around a child at all times.

Would you just sit by watching a predator flirt with a child? Or are you just making a moral exception for a creator you like? Because I fucking hope and pray to all the gods I worship it's the latter.

[surviving-the-internet]

sorry, but that anon comparing ponder to lily out of all people is very bonkers to me, because it's two completely different situations. so no, from what Ive seen ppl are giving ponder more grace bc of their biases against chuuli and lio (who is actually awful and has also covered up for child predators. Multiple times. he's doing it now too, just nobody seems to care for some reason ?) more than liking ponder, who everyone agrees was irresponsible and should have done more. and lily orchard is a rapist. i think there is a big difference here.

Honestly yeah I can see that being a big thing. Lily is a rapist and child groomer.... Ponder is certainly not that far.

Thank you for pointing that out anon!

[you-can-eat-hrts]

I'm sorry what? Ponder is not a rapist or a child groomer.

What are you on about?

Does Chuuli have proof to back up these accusations or are they throwing out whatever sticks?

[surviving-the-internet]

I think that the person who originally said something to me was trying to grab onto "person people actively acknowledge the fault of" vs "person people don't acknowledge as having any fault whatsoever and actively harass the victim of"- but it isn't a good comparision and seems to have been primarily emotional. Here's the original comparison the other anon made that I did not do my due diligence to push back on initially, as I should have.

Post by @surviving-the-internet

💬 0  🔁 0  ❤️ 5 · I've been keeping track of the stuff w ponder and chuuli and i need to watch that video asap the amount of people who are

Ponder has been proven to not have been responsible with the way she ran her server, and instead of separating a predatory adult from a child, stayed a bystander. This led to more harm and happened with multiple predatory adults, all with the same child. Ponder is absolutely NOT a rapist or a child groomer- she did, however, due to her own inaction, enable child grooming. This is something I believe is morally wrong. I believe every adult has a responsibility to always call out abuse and predation on a child when they see it. To not ban an adult in your server who is being sexual with a child is to let abuse happen. But there is an important distinction between someone who enables things and someone who actively does them.

[surviving-the-internet]

I've been keeping track of the stuff w ponder and chuuli and i need to watch that video asap

the amount of people who are victim blaming chuuli however and going to bat for ponder because 'she's not their mom' 'well it was just one mistake years ago' makes my blood boil. everyone who thinks ponder did 'nothing wrong' is not a safe person for any teen to be around because they clearly will not have their safety in mind

genuinely i think racism has a huge part in it. and people being petty about community politics ('chuuli hangs out w people i don't like so i don't believe anything they say'). ialso do think calling out people who are abusive and/or irresponsible around minors is incredibly important regardless of the identity of the person doing it-- in that, i have this really sick feeling in my stomach that transmisogyny might also have something to do with it

specifically in as far as i know, ponder is a cis woman. the same people who would-- rightfully-- rake people like lily orchard over the coals for doing stuff like this, and have, I've noticed have painted chuuli as overreacting and doubting them at every turn. and i can't help but wonder, if ponder was a trans woman, would you be a little more likely to believe chuuli?

keep in mind i am not saying anyone who calls out bad behavior of a trans woman is immediately a transmisogynist-- but i will side eye people suddenly giving all the benefit of the doubt to a cis woman who has been irresponsible around a minor. suddenly being very sympathetic to the white cis woman.

additionally i think people liking ponder has something to do with it, which also makes me so upset. anyone who claims to stand for victims but immediately doubted chuuli at every turn and when seeing evidence would excuse ponder's actions at every turn who ALSO runs blogs that document people's bad actions tells me that they really do not fucking care about victims. regardless of if they really admit it to themselves, they only really care about getting back at people they don't like, given again, since they like ponder, suddenly she's done nothing wrong.

it upsets and disgusts me to my very core. anyone who still decides to not believe chuuli and exonerate ponder is a victim blamer and doesn't really care about minors, let alone victims of abuse. because it tells me that if someone came to you saying someone hurt them, and showed you proof, and you liked the perpetrator, you would make all the excuses in the world.

Yeah IIRC Chuuli is transfem as well and with her being trans it's not surprising that some people with transmisogynistic biases would have that impact the way they treat their victimization. :(

It's so frustrating as well because I'll see people who make good points and genuinely seem to understand how other people are abusive or harmful by supporting abusers but they just refuse to accept it in the case of Ponder.

Chuuli genuinely deserves so much better.

Edit: As a later anon pointed out it's not great to compare Lily and Ponder given the fact that the things Lily has done are far worse than anything of what Ponder has ever done. Lily is an accused rapist and child groomer meanwhile Ponder is someone who endangered a child and created an environment that allowed for abuse to occur. I apologize for overlooking this aspect and not making sure to be clear these are very different situations but I still believe some of the reasons people specifically are untrusting of Chuuli is because she's a trans woman though some of it is definitely her associations with people like Lio.

[poppydu]

@the-chuuli-room

hey bestie, kindly change your url and bio to better reflect ur pitiful status as a stalking blog instead of impersonating me. if not i will be not only reporting you myself, but asking my audience to do the same on my next stream.

thank youuuu

[poppydu]

ponder sprocket / beanimatedoctopus / emptybrooke covered for an 18 year old she knew was getting naked pictures of a 14 year old. she let him be around me when i was still legally a minor. she spoke sexually with me herself when i was even younger and encouraged me to draw nsfw for a man nearly 6 years older than me when i was 15.

there are people on this website who want to defend her for no other reason other than they dislike me bc im outspoken and unyielding ab my victimization, and they know if they ever confronted me directly on this issue with the hard facts and evidence i would embarrass the fuck out of them.

news flash, theres nothing you can do to change these facts, no matter how much you dislike me, and all of your attempts to downplay legitimately fucked up acts and cover them up will and should get you ridiculed for being total creep defenders.

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