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I just want to say: if you feel your speech in particular is being threatened by what happened to Parler, you're a Nazi. Fuck you. If you feel there's something troubling about the way public discourse happens online and have reservations about the power that social media companies and web hosting services have over that discourse... I mean, fine, a gun can be pointed at an innocent man as easily as a guilty one. I get that, there's a real conversation to be had there. The tools that ban violent terrorist groups from conversing about their planned insurrection online can also be used to punish slash authors in China, "cancel culture" and online mobs are a real problem and I'll die on that hill, etc; double-edged swords abound. But if you personally feel specifically threatened and silenced by the vanishing of Parler? If it makes you feel like you don't have a forum to say specific things you want to be saying? If you feel like now you don't have a voice? If you think you've been gagged or muzzled or muted and aren't allowed to say anything at all? Well then... I regret to inform you that literally everyone on earth knows exactly what you wish you could be saying. And we all know you're not being stopped from saying you believe in God or that you value free enterprise or that you look forward to the peaceful transition of power and to solving your political disputes through the normal, peaceful processes of a stable, multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-racial democracy. We all know what kind of very specific speech caused this mess. Everyone, including you, including every right-wing extremist playing coy on Twitter right now, knows exactly what kind of speech was and is at issue here. And for the sake of your own heart, I hope you get a wake up call and toss your racist, fascist, shit-garbage poison straight the fuck back to hell, where it came from. I pray god sends you the wisdom to trade your hatred for compassion. And if he tries and you reject the lesson and lean in to fascism and racism and the violent fever-dream of an authoritarian insurrection, if you keep company with madmen and conspiracy-mongers and pronounce yourself a Nazi for all the world to see, because that is what you are if you are on the side of the people who tried to murder American democracy last week, because that is what you are if you side with the people who stormed a house of government at the urging of a totalitarian monster in order to interrupt the legally prescribed steps of our electoral process... If you choose that, from the absolute bottom of my heart, I hope you end up in jail.
I would argue its a bit more nazi-esque to use one's power to silence people they don't agree with. No speech should be silenced.
Four years ago today, 18 year old Michael Brown was shot and killed in Ferguson by police officer Darren Wilson. Charges were never filed.
We honor Brownâs memory by continuing the fight for police accountability nationwide.
Michael Brown was shot for resisting arrest and assaulting the arresting officer. Literally all of the actual evidence shows that he went for the officerâs gun
Wht evidence? The copâs testimony is not admissible. For example, he lied about te places where he shot Brown, the distance at which he shot Brown, whether his gun was holstered or not when Brown supposedly tried to get it, and whether or not he had the gun in his hands when he approached Brown. Clear indication of an impaired mind.
The autopsy and eyewitness testimony. Even Brownâs friends changed their story when the truth came out
False. The eyewitnessâ testimony remained the same. The copâs testimony changed.
And I ask again: what evidence? Be precise.
Witness 102, a 27-year-old biracial man: âBrown was âwrestlingâ through the window, but he was unable to see what Wilson was doing. After a few seconds, Witness 102 heard a gunshot. ⊠Witness 102 thought that he had just witnessed the murder of a police officer because a few seconds passed before Wilson emerged from the SUV.â
(Brown had tried to grab Wilsonâs gun but ended up getting shot in one of his hands, the report said: âAutopsy results and bullet trajectory, skin from Brownâs palm on the outside of the SUV door as well as Brownâs DNA on the inside of the driverâs door corroborate Wilsonâs account that during the struggle, Brown used his right hand to grab and attempt to control Wilsonâs gun.â)
Witness 103, a 58-year-old black man:Â The witness âsaw Brown punching Wilson at least three times in the facial area, through the open driverâs window of the SUV. Witness 103 described Wilson and Brown as having hold of each otherâs shirts, but Brown was âgetting in a couple of blows.â Wilson was leaning back toward the passenger seat with his forearm up, in an effort to block the blows. Then Witness 103 heard a gunshot and Brown took off running.â
Witness 104, a 26-year-old biracial woman:Â The witness âheard two gunshots. She looked out the front window and saw Brown at the driverâs window of Wilsonâs SUV. Witness 104 knew that Brownâs arms were inside the SUV, but she could not see what Brown and Wilson were doing because Brownâs body was blocking her view. Witness 104 saw Brown run from the SUV, followed by Wilson, who âhoppedâ out of the SUV and ran after him while yelling, âstop, stop, stop.â â
Witness 102: âWilson then chased Brown with his gun drawn, but not pointed at Brown, until Brown abruptly turned around at a nearby driveway. Witness 102 explained that it made no sense to him why Brown turned around. Brown did not get on the ground or put his hands up in surrender. ⊠Brown made some type of movement similar to pulling his pants up or a shoulder shrug, and then âchargedâ at Wilson.â
Witness 103:Â He âsaw Brown âmoving fastâ toward Wilson.â
Witness 104:Â âWilson did not fire his gun as Brown ran from him. Brown then turned around and âfor a secondâ began to raise his hands as though he may have considered surrendering, but then quickly âballed up in fistsâ in a running position and âchargedâ at Wilson. Witness 104 described it as a âtackle run,â explaining that Brown âwasnât going to stop.â Wilson fired his gun only as Brown charged at him, backing up as Brown came toward him.â
Witness 105, a 50-year-old black woman: âWilson told Brown to âget down,â but Brown did not comply. Instead, Brown put his hands down âin a running position.â Witness 105 could not tell whether Brown was âchargingâ at Wilson or whether his plan was to run past Wilson, but either way, Brown was running toward Wilson. ⊠Wilson only shot at Brown when Brown was moving toward him.â
Witness 102 presented himself a year after the shooting. No other witness identified him or saw him at the murder scene, and he was unable to identify any other witness. Additionally, his statements were not made under oath. His testimony contradicts the statements of literally every single civilian who testified shortly after the study (except a racist who was later found guilty of lying under oath). Finally, even if we accept his eyewitness, it shows that Wilson incompetently allowed Brown to attack him and try to take his gun.
He lowered his window for no reason. Stupid.
He failed to properly holster his weapon. (if it was properly holstered, Brown would have been unable to get it.) Stupid.
He waited until Brown approached the police car, leaned inside, and reached for the holstered gun before doing anything. Stupid.
Instead of hitting Brown to make him back off, he grabbed his gun while in Brownâs reach, which couldâve easily resulted in Brown grabbing the gun and/or the gun firing and hitting Wilson. Stupid.
Ah, and you didnât contradict what I said.
Iâm assuming you didnât pull up the link. I posted it because my device wonât let me post the rest of the statements, because youâve yet to address witnesses 103-108. All of which tell a story of a 6 ft 4 290lb dude trying to bulldog his way violently out of an arrest, who was shot in self defense
Same as the above. All the witnesses from 102 to 108 released their statements way, way, WAY after the shooting. To the point that none of them testified at the Grand Jury hearing. (In this press release, the police claims that witnesses 102-08 all testified before the grand jury. This is utterly false.) For reference: the shooting happened on August 9th 2014, while the Grand Jury finished on November 21st - more than three months later.
Also, NONE of the witnesses that defended Winstron publicly came out, with the exception of witness 9 (Wilson himself). Which, given the policeâs dishonest behavior (Iâll talk about it later), make their statements extremely suspect.
On top of that, their testimony often directly contradicted evidence to such a degree, that their testimony shouldnât have been accepted. For example, some claim that the gun went off while Brown and Wilson were struggling in the latterâs car; however, there was no gunpowder residue on Brownâs shirt which means that the statement is wrong (a gun going off at that distance ALWAYS leaves a residue). Keep in mind that, according to the police department itself, no evidence was lost despite leaving Brownâs body out in the open for 4-and-a-half hours: if the coroner didnât find any gunpowder residue, it wasnât because it got washed away - it was because there wasnât any gunpowder residue in the first place.
Do I need to continue?
I mean, kinda. Youâre sitting there trying to build an entire case on gunpowder residue, which was in fact corroborated by both the angle of the injury to his hand, as well as a bullet literally pulled out of the door of Wilsonâs car. Youâre claiming all these things but your sources are literally saying the opposite.
Youâre claiming that these witnesses didnât testify, Iâm guessing because the numbers in the court documents and in the investigation documents are different. It would behoove you to read your own sources. You just said witness 102 didnât testify until much later, when his testimony is literally there in the court documents as being given on August 11th of 2014, heâs just called Witness 10 in the court documents instead of 102
Nope. Angle of injury only tells us about the trajectory of the projectile, not the distance at which it was fired. If the gun was fired during the fight, it shouldâve left gunpowder residue on Brownâs clothes (soot on the thumb can be explained by Wilson shooting Brown in the arms) - ESPECIALLY if he tried to take Wilsonâs gun; but it didnât, so evidently Brown did not try to take Wilsonâs gun.
Likewise, the bullet in the driverâs door only proves that Wilson fired his gun while being inside his car; not that Brown was trying to take Wilsonâs gun when it fired.
And thatâs just the tip of the iceberg. As I already explained, the police was extremely dishonest guilty of at LEAST severe negligence. The gunpowder residue was just ONE example. Want more examples? The police left Brownâs body in the open for 4,5 hours, without covering it. Which is a massive violation of protocol.
They allowed Wilson go back home and shower himself without getting his testimony or collecting evidence. Massive violation of protocol.
The policeâs coroner refused to exhamine Brownâs clothes. Massive negligence.
The police falsely accused Brown of being a robberer, despite blatant evidence of the contrary - including the shopâs owner, the victim of the crime who saw the criminalâs face, blatantly saying that the robberer wasnât Brown and being 100% sure of this. Oh, and the owner even shared the security video showing that Brown was not the robberer. The police didnât give a fuck; they accused Brown after he was shot.
Then thereâs the fact that, out of the 8 witnesses who came out publicly shortly after the shooting, 6 sided with Brown and did not change their version, ever. The remaining 2 were Wilson himself, who changed his testimony much later; and Witness 40, who was found guilty of perjury and was a fucking white supremacist (and the police failed to punish him, big surprise). Do I need to continue?
Um, yes. Gunpowder residue was indeed found on the hand injury, as outlined in the police report. Also the witnesses youâre claiming that no witnesses went against Brown, however witness 102 did indeed give his testimony, and its literally right there in the court documents you yourself provided as witness 10. Youâre literally ignoring evidence you donât like from the very same sources Youâre trying to claim
Nope. Shooting a gun produces a sizable cloud of gunpowder and soot. At THAT range, it shouldâve gotten into Brownâs clothes. It did not; they found it only on its thumb. Because the bullet hit it, and the bullet was covered in soot because it had been fired.
Also, youâre the one to talk, considering you keep ignoring the incompetence of the police. Want some more? Accepting a witnessâ testimony as âcredibleâ despite the fact that Brownâs corpse was way, way, WAY much farther than what the witness said. Not giving a fuck about how Wilson changed his testimony multiple times. Allowing Wilson to destroy evidence, because it bears repeating until it gets into your skull. The prosecutor mounting a defense in favor of Wilson at the grand jury - something that, in any normal country, wouldâve immediately caused that prosecutor to get fired. The total lack of cigarillo pieces in Wilsonâs car, despite the fact that Wilson claimed that Brown hit him multiple times with the hand that was holding the cigarillos. Wilsonâs extreme inconsistency about whether or not his gun was holstered (which means that Brown couldnât have grabbed his gun like he said) or unholstered (which means that Wilson already had the gun in his hand⊠to deal with two jaywalkers). Do you want more? Because youâll need a rectum transplant after Iâm done beating your ass.
Have you ever shot a gun before? No, thats not true of modern handguns. You would see gunpowder residue on the hand at a range of 1-2 feet. The evidence at the scene corroborate the story that Brown ran some distance, then turned and headed back towards Wilson. I'm not terribly concerned about why Wilson went, I am concerned about the conduct and exchange between him and Brown. You have one close range shot to the hand which is congruent with what would happen if Brown was going for his gun, you have a blood trail leading away, turning and heading back, and Brown had no entry wounds in the back. You have multiple witnesses who testified that the officer told him to get on the ground, and he instead tried to bulldog the cop. And I'm afraid I'm going to have to insist that you acknowledge the fact that you didn't read your own sources. Please stop trying to change the subject when the ones at hand are still on the table. You're acting childish as hell
Four years ago today, 18 year old Michael Brown was shot and killed in Ferguson by police officer Darren Wilson. Charges were never filed.
We honor Brownâs memory by continuing the fight for police accountability nationwide.
Michael Brown was shot for resisting arrest and assaulting the arresting officer. Literally all of the actual evidence shows that he went for the officerâs gun
Wht evidence? The copâs testimony is not admissible. For example, he lied about te places where he shot Brown, the distance at which he shot Brown, whether his gun was holstered or not when Brown supposedly tried to get it, and whether or not he had the gun in his hands when he approached Brown. Clear indication of an impaired mind.
The autopsy and eyewitness testimony. Even Brownâs friends changed their story when the truth came out
False. The eyewitnessâ testimony remained the same. The copâs testimony changed.
And I ask again: what evidence? Be precise.
Witness 102, a 27-year-old biracial man: âBrown was âwrestlingâ through the window, but he was unable to see what Wilson was doing. After a few seconds, Witness 102 heard a gunshot. ⊠Witness 102 thought that he had just witnessed the murder of a police officer because a few seconds passed before Wilson emerged from the SUV.â
(Brown had tried to grab Wilsonâs gun but ended up getting shot in one of his hands, the report said: âAutopsy results and bullet trajectory, skin from Brownâs palm on the outside of the SUV door as well as Brownâs DNA on the inside of the driverâs door corroborate Wilsonâs account that during the struggle, Brown used his right hand to grab and attempt to control Wilsonâs gun.â)
Witness 103, a 58-year-old black man:Â The witness âsaw Brown punching Wilson at least three times in the facial area, through the open driverâs window of the SUV. Witness 103 described Wilson and Brown as having hold of each otherâs shirts, but Brown was âgetting in a couple of blows.â Wilson was leaning back toward the passenger seat with his forearm up, in an effort to block the blows. Then Witness 103 heard a gunshot and Brown took off running.â
Witness 104, a 26-year-old biracial woman:Â The witness âheard two gunshots. She looked out the front window and saw Brown at the driverâs window of Wilsonâs SUV. Witness 104 knew that Brownâs arms were inside the SUV, but she could not see what Brown and Wilson were doing because Brownâs body was blocking her view. Witness 104 saw Brown run from the SUV, followed by Wilson, who âhoppedâ out of the SUV and ran after him while yelling, âstop, stop, stop.â â
Witness 102: âWilson then chased Brown with his gun drawn, but not pointed at Brown, until Brown abruptly turned around at a nearby driveway. Witness 102 explained that it made no sense to him why Brown turned around. Brown did not get on the ground or put his hands up in surrender. ⊠Brown made some type of movement similar to pulling his pants up or a shoulder shrug, and then âchargedâ at Wilson.â
Witness 103:Â He âsaw Brown âmoving fastâ toward Wilson.â
Witness 104:Â âWilson did not fire his gun as Brown ran from him. Brown then turned around and âfor a secondâ began to raise his hands as though he may have considered surrendering, but then quickly âballed up in fistsâ in a running position and âchargedâ at Wilson. Witness 104 described it as a âtackle run,â explaining that Brown âwasnât going to stop.â Wilson fired his gun only as Brown charged at him, backing up as Brown came toward him.â
Witness 105, a 50-year-old black woman: âWilson told Brown to âget down,â but Brown did not comply. Instead, Brown put his hands down âin a running position.â Witness 105 could not tell whether Brown was âchargingâ at Wilson or whether his plan was to run past Wilson, but either way, Brown was running toward Wilson. ⊠Wilson only shot at Brown when Brown was moving toward him.â
Witness 102 presented himself a year after the shooting. No other witness identified him or saw him at the murder scene, and he was unable to identify any other witness. Additionally, his statements were not made under oath. His testimony contradicts the statements of literally every single civilian who testified shortly after the study (except a racist who was later found guilty of lying under oath). Finally, even if we accept his eyewitness, it shows that Wilson incompetently allowed Brown to attack him and try to take his gun.
He lowered his window for no reason. Stupid.
He failed to properly holster his weapon. (if it was properly holstered, Brown would have been unable to get it.) Stupid.
He waited until Brown approached the police car, leaned inside, and reached for the holstered gun before doing anything. Stupid.
Instead of hitting Brown to make him back off, he grabbed his gun while in Brownâs reach, which couldâve easily resulted in Brown grabbing the gun and/or the gun firing and hitting Wilson. Stupid.
Ah, and you didnât contradict what I said.
Iâm assuming you didnât pull up the link. I posted it because my device wonât let me post the rest of the statements, because youâve yet to address witnesses 103-108. All of which tell a story of a 6 ft 4 290lb dude trying to bulldog his way violently out of an arrest, who was shot in self defense
Same as the above. All the witnesses from 102 to 108 released their statements way, way, WAY after the shooting. To the point that none of them testified at the Grand Jury hearing. (In this press release, the police claims that witnesses 102-08 all testified before the grand jury. This is utterly false.) For reference: the shooting happened on August 9th 2014, while the Grand Jury finished on November 21st - more than three months later.
Also, NONE of the witnesses that defended Winstron publicly came out, with the exception of witness 9 (Wilson himself). Which, given the policeâs dishonest behavior (Iâll talk about it later), make their statements extremely suspect.
On top of that, their testimony often directly contradicted evidence to such a degree, that their testimony shouldnât have been accepted. For example, some claim that the gun went off while Brown and Wilson were struggling in the latterâs car; however, there was no gunpowder residue on Brownâs shirt which means that the statement is wrong (a gun going off at that distance ALWAYS leaves a residue). Keep in mind that, according to the police department itself, no evidence was lost despite leaving Brownâs body out in the open for 4-and-a-half hours: if the coroner didnât find any gunpowder residue, it wasnât because it got washed away - it was because there wasnât any gunpowder residue in the first place.
Do I need to continue?
I mean, kinda. Youâre sitting there trying to build an entire case on gunpowder residue, which was in fact corroborated by both the angle of the injury to his hand, as well as a bullet literally pulled out of the door of Wilsonâs car. Youâre claiming all these things but your sources are literally saying the opposite.
Youâre claiming that these witnesses didnât testify, Iâm guessing because the numbers in the court documents and in the investigation documents are different. It would behoove you to read your own sources. You just said witness 102 didnât testify until much later, when his testimony is literally there in the court documents as being given on August 11th of 2014, heâs just called Witness 10 in the court documents instead of 102
Nope. Angle of injury only tells us about the trajectory of the projectile, not the distance at which it was fired. If the gun was fired during the fight, it shouldâve left gunpowder residue on Brownâs clothes (soot on the thumb can be explained by Wilson shooting Brown in the arms) - ESPECIALLY if he tried to take Wilsonâs gun; but it didnât, so evidently Brown did not try to take Wilsonâs gun.
Likewise, the bullet in the driverâs door only proves that Wilson fired his gun while being inside his car; not that Brown was trying to take Wilsonâs gun when it fired.
And thatâs just the tip of the iceberg. As I already explained, the police was extremely dishonest guilty of at LEAST severe negligence. The gunpowder residue was just ONE example. Want more examples? The police left Brownâs body in the open for 4,5 hours, without covering it. Which is a massive violation of protocol.
They allowed Wilson go back home and shower himself without getting his testimony or collecting evidence. Massive violation of protocol.
The policeâs coroner refused to exhamine Brownâs clothes. Massive negligence.
The police falsely accused Brown of being a robberer, despite blatant evidence of the contrary - including the shopâs owner, the victim of the crime who saw the criminalâs face, blatantly saying that the robberer wasnât Brown and being 100% sure of this. Oh, and the owner even shared the security video showing that Brown was not the robberer. The police didnât give a fuck; they accused Brown after he was shot.
Then thereâs the fact that, out of the 8 witnesses who came out publicly shortly after the shooting, 6 sided with Brown and did not change their version, ever. The remaining 2 were Wilson himself, who changed his testimony much later; and Witness 40, who was found guilty of perjury and was a fucking white supremacist (and the police failed to punish him, big surprise). Do I need to continue?
Um, yes. Gunpowder residue was indeed found on the hand injury, as outlined in the police report. Also the witnesses you're claiming that no witnesses went against Brown, however witness 102 did indeed give his testimony, and its literally right there in the court documents you yourself provided as witness 10. You're literally ignoring evidence you don't like from the very same sources You're trying to claim
Four years ago today, 18 year old Michael Brown was shot and killed in Ferguson by police officer Darren Wilson. Charges were never filed.
We honor Brownâs memory by continuing the fight for police accountability nationwide.
Michael Brown was shot for resisting arrest and assaulting the arresting officer. Literally all of the actual evidence shows that he went for the officerâs gun
Wht evidence? The copâs testimony is not admissible. For example, he lied about te places where he shot Brown, the distance at which he shot Brown, whether his gun was holstered or not when Brown supposedly tried to get it, and whether or not he had the gun in his hands when he approached Brown. Clear indication of an impaired mind.
The autopsy and eyewitness testimony. Even Brownâs friends changed their story when the truth came out
False. The eyewitnessâ testimony remained the same. The copâs testimony changed.
And I ask again: what evidence? Be precise.
Witness 102, a 27-year-old biracial man: âBrown was âwrestlingâ through the window, but he was unable to see what Wilson was doing. After a few seconds, Witness 102 heard a gunshot. ⊠Witness 102 thought that he had just witnessed the murder of a police officer because a few seconds passed before Wilson emerged from the SUV.â
(Brown had tried to grab Wilsonâs gun but ended up getting shot in one of his hands, the report said: âAutopsy results and bullet trajectory, skin from Brownâs palm on the outside of the SUV door as well as Brownâs DNA on the inside of the driverâs door corroborate Wilsonâs account that during the struggle, Brown used his right hand to grab and attempt to control Wilsonâs gun.â)
Witness 103, a 58-year-old black man:Â The witness âsaw Brown punching Wilson at least three times in the facial area, through the open driverâs window of the SUV. Witness 103 described Wilson and Brown as having hold of each otherâs shirts, but Brown was âgetting in a couple of blows.â Wilson was leaning back toward the passenger seat with his forearm up, in an effort to block the blows. Then Witness 103 heard a gunshot and Brown took off running.â
Witness 104, a 26-year-old biracial woman:Â The witness âheard two gunshots. She looked out the front window and saw Brown at the driverâs window of Wilsonâs SUV. Witness 104 knew that Brownâs arms were inside the SUV, but she could not see what Brown and Wilson were doing because Brownâs body was blocking her view. Witness 104 saw Brown run from the SUV, followed by Wilson, who âhoppedâ out of the SUV and ran after him while yelling, âstop, stop, stop.â â
Witness 102: âWilson then chased Brown with his gun drawn, but not pointed at Brown, until Brown abruptly turned around at a nearby driveway. Witness 102 explained that it made no sense to him why Brown turned around. Brown did not get on the ground or put his hands up in surrender. ⊠Brown made some type of movement similar to pulling his pants up or a shoulder shrug, and then âchargedâ at Wilson.â
Witness 103:Â He âsaw Brown âmoving fastâ toward Wilson.â
Witness 104:Â âWilson did not fire his gun as Brown ran from him. Brown then turned around and âfor a secondâ began to raise his hands as though he may have considered surrendering, but then quickly âballed up in fistsâ in a running position and âchargedâ at Wilson. Witness 104 described it as a âtackle run,â explaining that Brown âwasnât going to stop.â Wilson fired his gun only as Brown charged at him, backing up as Brown came toward him.â
Witness 105, a 50-year-old black woman: âWilson told Brown to âget down,â but Brown did not comply. Instead, Brown put his hands down âin a running position.â Witness 105 could not tell whether Brown was âchargingâ at Wilson or whether his plan was to run past Wilson, but either way, Brown was running toward Wilson. ⊠Wilson only shot at Brown when Brown was moving toward him.â
Witness 102 presented himself a year after the shooting. No other witness identified him or saw him at the murder scene, and he was unable to identify any other witness. Additionally, his statements were not made under oath. His testimony contradicts the statements of literally every single civilian who testified shortly after the study (except a racist who was later found guilty of lying under oath). Finally, even if we accept his eyewitness, it shows that Wilson incompetently allowed Brown to attack him and try to take his gun.
He lowered his window for no reason. Stupid.
He failed to properly holster his weapon. (if it was properly holstered, Brown would have been unable to get it.) Stupid.
He waited until Brown approached the police car, leaned inside, and reached for the holstered gun before doing anything. Stupid.
Instead of hitting Brown to make him back off, he grabbed his gun while in Brownâs reach, which couldâve easily resulted in Brown grabbing the gun and/or the gun firing and hitting Wilson. Stupid.
Ah, and you didnât contradict what I said.
Iâm assuming you didnât pull up the link. I posted it because my device wonât let me post the rest of the statements, because youâve yet to address witnesses 103-108. All of which tell a story of a 6 ft 4 290lb dude trying to bulldog his way violently out of an arrest, who was shot in self defense
Same as the above. All the witnesses from 102 to 108 released their statements way, way, WAY after the shooting. To the point that none of them testified at the Grand Jury hearing. (In this press release, the police claims that witnesses 102-08 all testified before the grand jury. This is utterly false.) For reference: the shooting happened on August 9th 2014, while the Grand Jury finished on November 21st - more than three months later.
Also, NONE of the witnesses that defended Winstron publicly came out, with the exception of witness 9 (Wilson himself). Which, given the policeâs dishonest behavior (Iâll talk about it later), make their statements extremely suspect.
On top of that, their testimony often directly contradicted evidence to such a degree, that their testimony shouldnât have been accepted. For example, some claim that the gun went off while Brown and Wilson were struggling in the latterâs car; however, there was no gunpowder residue on Brownâs shirt which means that the statement is wrong (a gun going off at that distance ALWAYS leaves a residue). Keep in mind that, according to the police department itself, no evidence was lost despite leaving Brownâs body out in the open for 4-and-a-half hours: if the coroner didnât find any gunpowder residue, it wasnât because it got washed away - it was because there wasnât any gunpowder residue in the first place.
Do I need to continue?
I mean, kinda. You're sitting there trying to build an entire case on gunpowder residue, which was in fact corroborated by both the angle of the injury to his hand, as well as a bullet literally pulled out of the door of Wilsonâs car. You're claiming all these things but your sources are literally saying the opposite.
You're claiming that these witnesses didn't testify, I'm guessing because the numbers in the court documents and in the investigation documents are different. It would behoove you to read your own sources. You just said witness 102 didn't testify until much later, when his testimony is literally there in the court documents as being given on August 11th of 2014, he's just called Witness 10 in the court documents instead of 102
Four years ago today, 18 year old Michael Brown was shot and killed in Ferguson by police officer Darren Wilson. Charges were never filed.
We honor Brownâs memory by continuing the fight for police accountability nationwide.
Michael Brown was shot for resisting arrest and assaulting the arresting officer. Literally all of the actual evidence shows that he went for the officerâs gun
Wht evidence? The copâs testimony is not admissible. For example, he lied about te places where he shot Brown, the distance at which he shot Brown, whether his gun was holstered or not when Brown supposedly tried to get it, and whether or not he had the gun in his hands when he approached Brown. Clear indication of an impaired mind.
The autopsy and eyewitness testimony. Even Brownâs friends changed their story when the truth came out
False. The eyewitnessâ testimony remained the same. The copâs testimony changed.
And I ask again: what evidence? Be precise.
Witness 102, a 27-year-old biracial man: âBrown was âwrestlingâ through the window, but he was unable to see what Wilson was doing. After a few seconds, Witness 102 heard a gunshot. ⊠Witness 102 thought that he had just witnessed the murder of a police officer because a few seconds passed before Wilson emerged from the SUV.â
(Brown had tried to grab Wilsonâs gun but ended up getting shot in one of his hands, the report said: âAutopsy results and bullet trajectory, skin from Brownâs palm on the outside of the SUV door as well as Brownâs DNA on the inside of the driverâs door corroborate Wilsonâs account that during the struggle, Brown used his right hand to grab and attempt to control Wilsonâs gun.â)
Witness 103, a 58-year-old black man:Â The witness âsaw Brown punching Wilson at least three times in the facial area, through the open driverâs window of the SUV. Witness 103 described Wilson and Brown as having hold of each otherâs shirts, but Brown was âgetting in a couple of blows.â Wilson was leaning back toward the passenger seat with his forearm up, in an effort to block the blows. Then Witness 103 heard a gunshot and Brown took off running.â
Witness 104, a 26-year-old biracial woman:Â The witness âheard two gunshots. She looked out the front window and saw Brown at the driverâs window of Wilsonâs SUV. Witness 104 knew that Brownâs arms were inside the SUV, but she could not see what Brown and Wilson were doing because Brownâs body was blocking her view. Witness 104 saw Brown run from the SUV, followed by Wilson, who âhoppedâ out of the SUV and ran after him while yelling, âstop, stop, stop.â â
Witness 102: âWilson then chased Brown with his gun drawn, but not pointed at Brown, until Brown abruptly turned around at a nearby driveway. Witness 102 explained that it made no sense to him why Brown turned around. Brown did not get on the ground or put his hands up in surrender. ⊠Brown made some type of movement similar to pulling his pants up or a shoulder shrug, and then âchargedâ at Wilson.â
Witness 103:Â He âsaw Brown âmoving fastâ toward Wilson.â
Witness 104:Â âWilson did not fire his gun as Brown ran from him. Brown then turned around and âfor a secondâ began to raise his hands as though he may have considered surrendering, but then quickly âballed up in fistsâ in a running position and âchargedâ at Wilson. Witness 104 described it as a âtackle run,â explaining that Brown âwasnât going to stop.â Wilson fired his gun only as Brown charged at him, backing up as Brown came toward him.â
Witness 105, a 50-year-old black woman: âWilson told Brown to âget down,â but Brown did not comply. Instead, Brown put his hands down âin a running position.â Witness 105 could not tell whether Brown was âchargingâ at Wilson or whether his plan was to run past Wilson, but either way, Brown was running toward Wilson. ⊠Wilson only shot at Brown when Brown was moving toward him.â
Witness 102 presented himself a year after the shooting. No other witness identified him or saw him at the murder scene, and he was unable to identify any other witness. Additionally, his statements were not made under oath. His testimony contradicts the statements of literally every single civilian who testified shortly after the study (except a racist who was later found guilty of lying under oath). Finally, even if we accept his eyewitness, it shows that Wilson incompetently allowed Brown to attack him and try to take his gun.
He lowered his window for no reason. Stupid.
He failed to properly holster his weapon. (if it was properly holstered, Brown would have been unable to get it.) Stupid.
He waited until Brown approached the police car, leaned inside, and reached for the holstered gun before doing anything. Stupid.
Instead of hitting Brown to make him back off, he grabbed his gun while in Brownâs reach, which couldâve easily resulted in Brown grabbing the gun and/or the gun firing and hitting Wilson. Stupid.
Ah, and you didnât contradict what I said.
I'm assuming you didn't pull up the link. I posted it because my device won't let me post the rest of the statements, because you've yet to address witnesses 103-108. All of which tell a story of a 6 ft 4 290lb dude trying to bulldog his way violently out of an arrest, who was shot in self defense
Four years ago today, 18 year old Michael Brown was shot and killed in Ferguson by police officer Darren Wilson. Charges were never filed.
We honor Brownâs memory by continuing the fight for police accountability nationwide.
Michael Brown was shot for resisting arrest and assaulting the arresting officer. Literally all of the actual evidence shows that he went for the officerâs gun
Wht evidence? The copâs testimony is not admissible. For example, he lied about te places where he shot Brown, the distance at which he shot Brown, whether his gun was holstered or not when Brown supposedly tried to get it, and whether or not he had the gun in his hands when he approached Brown. Clear indication of an impaired mind.
The autopsy and eyewitness testimony. Even Brownâs friends changed their story when the truth came out
False. The eyewitnessâ testimony remained the same. The copâs testimony changed.
And I ask again: what evidence? Be precise.
Witness 102, a 27-year-old biracial man: âBrown was âwrestlingâ through the window, but he was unable to see what Wilson was doing. After a few seconds, Witness 102 heard a gunshot. ⊠Witness 102 thought that he had just witnessed the murder of a police officer because a few seconds passed before Wilson emerged from the SUV.â
(Brown had tried to grab Wilsonâs gun but ended up getting shot in one of his hands, the report said: âAutopsy results and bullet trajectory, skin from Brownâs palm on the outside of the SUV door as well as Brownâs DNA on the inside of the driverâs door corroborate Wilsonâs account that during the struggle, Brown used his right hand to grab and attempt to control Wilsonâs gun.â)
Witness 103, a 58-year-old black man:Â The witness âsaw Brown punching Wilson at least three times in the facial area, through the open driverâs window of the SUV. Witness 103 described Wilson and Brown as having hold of each otherâs shirts, but Brown was âgetting in a couple of blows.â Wilson was leaning back toward the passenger seat with his forearm up, in an effort to block the blows. Then Witness 103 heard a gunshot and Brown took off running.â
Witness 104, a 26-year-old biracial woman:Â The witness âheard two gunshots. She looked out the front window and saw Brown at the driverâs window of Wilsonâs SUV. Witness 104 knew that Brownâs arms were inside the SUV, but she could not see what Brown and Wilson were doing because Brownâs body was blocking her view. Witness 104 saw Brown run from the SUV, followed by Wilson, who âhoppedâ out of the SUV and ran after him while yelling, âstop, stop, stop.â â
Witness 102: âWilson then chased Brown with his gun drawn, but not pointed at Brown, until Brown abruptly turned around at a nearby driveway. Witness 102 explained that it made no sense to him why Brown turned around. Brown did not get on the ground or put his hands up in surrender. ⊠Brown made some type of movement similar to pulling his pants up or a shoulder shrug, and then âchargedâ at Wilson.â
Witness 103:Â He âsaw Brown âmoving fastâ toward Wilson.â
Witness 104:Â âWilson did not fire his gun as Brown ran from him. Brown then turned around and âfor a secondâ began to raise his hands as though he may have considered surrendering, but then quickly âballed up in fistsâ in a running position and âchargedâ at Wilson. Witness 104 described it as a âtackle run,â explaining that Brown âwasnât going to stop.â Wilson fired his gun only as Brown charged at him, backing up as Brown came toward him.â
Witness 105, a 50-year-old black woman: âWilson told Brown to âget down,â but Brown did not comply. Instead, Brown put his hands down âin a running position.â Witness 105 could not tell whether Brown was âchargingâ at Wilson or whether his plan was to run past Wilson, but either way, Brown was running toward Wilson. ⊠Wilson only shot at Brown when Brown was moving toward him.â
https://www-washingtonpost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/13/harris-warren-ignore-doj-report-claim-that-michael-brown-was-murdered/?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16098293331893&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fpolitics%2F2019%2F08%2F13%2Fharris-warren-ignore-doj-report-claim-that-michael-brown-was-murdered%2F
The link to the article breaking down the witness testimonies
The Obama Justice Department found âno credible evidence" that the police officer willfully shot Brown "as he was attempting to surrender or
Four years ago today, 18 year old Michael Brown was shot and killed in Ferguson by police officer Darren Wilson. Charges were never filed.
We honor Brownâs memory by continuing the fight for police accountability nationwide.
Michael Brown was shot for resisting arrest and assaulting the arresting officer. Literally all of the actual evidence shows that he went for the officerâs gun
Wht evidence? The copâs testimony is not admissible. For example, he lied about te places where he shot Brown, the distance at which he shot Brown, whether his gun was holstered or not when Brown supposedly tried to get it, and whether or not he had the gun in his hands when he approached Brown. Clear indication of an impaired mind.
The autopsy and eyewitness testimony. Even Brownâs friends changed their story when the truth came out
False. The eyewitnessâ testimony remained the same. The copâs testimony changed.
And I ask again: what evidence? Be precise.
Witness 102, a 27-year-old biracial man:Â âBrown was âwrestlingâ through the window, but he was unable to see what Wilson was doing. After a few seconds, Witness 102 heard a gunshot. ... Witness 102 thought that he had just witnessed the murder of a police officer because a few seconds passed before Wilson emerged from the SUV.â
(Brown had tried to grab Wilsonâs gun but ended up getting shot in one of his hands, the report said: âAutopsy results and bullet trajectory, skin from Brownâs palm on the outside of the SUV door as well as Brownâs DNA on the inside of the driverâs door corroborate Wilsonâs account that during the struggle, Brown used his right hand to grab and attempt to control Wilsonâs gun.â)
Witness 103, a 58-year-old black man:Â The witness âsaw Brown punching Wilson at least three times in the facial area, through the open driverâs window of the SUV. Witness 103 described Wilson and Brown as having hold of each otherâs shirts, but Brown was âgetting in a couple of blows.â Wilson was leaning back toward the passenger seat with his forearm up, in an effort to block the blows. Then Witness 103 heard a gunshot and Brown took off running.â
Witness 104, a 26-year-old biracial woman:Â The witness âheard two gunshots. She looked out the front window and saw Brown at the driverâs window of Wilsonâs SUV. Witness 104 knew that Brownâs arms were inside the SUV, but she could not see what Brown and Wilson were doing because Brownâs body was blocking her view. Witness 104 saw Brown run from the SUV, followed by Wilson, who âhoppedâ out of the SUV and ran after him while yelling, âstop, stop, stop.â â
Witness 102:Â âWilson then chased Brown with his gun drawn, but not pointed at Brown, until Brown abruptly turned around at a nearby driveway. Witness 102 explained that it made no sense to him why Brown turned around. Brown did not get on the ground or put his hands up in surrender. ... Brown made some type of movement similar to pulling his pants up or a shoulder shrug, and then âchargedâ at Wilson.â
Witness 103:Â He âsaw Brown âmoving fastâ toward Wilson.â
Witness 104:Â âWilson did not fire his gun as Brown ran from him. Brown then turned around and âfor a secondâ began to raise his hands as though he may have considered surrendering, but then quickly âballed up in fistsâ in a running position and âchargedâ at Wilson. Witness 104 described it as a âtackle run,â explaining that Brown âwasnât going to stop.â Wilson fired his gun only as Brown charged at him, backing up as Brown came toward him.â
Witness 105, a 50-year-old black woman:Â âWilson told Brown to âget down,â but Brown did not comply. Instead, Brown put his hands down âin a running position.â Witness 105 could not tell whether Brown was âchargingâ at Wilson or whether his plan was to run past Wilson, but either way, Brown was running toward Wilson. ... Wilson only shot at Brown when Brown was moving toward him."
Four years ago today, 18 year old Michael Brown was shot and killed in Ferguson by police officer Darren Wilson. Charges were never filed.
We honor Brownâs memory by continuing the fight for police accountability nationwide.
Michael Brown was shot for resisting arrest and assaulting the arresting officer. Literally all of the actual evidence shows that he went for the officerâs gun
Youâve literally named your blog after the president of the confederacy. That tells us everything we need to know about how valid your opinions are.
My last name is Davis and I dig the civil war. The cool thing about America is that everyone's voice is valid, and subject to scrutiny. So, are you going to scrutinize or continue making an ass of yourself?
Four years ago today, 18 year old Michael Brown was shot and killed in Ferguson by police officer Darren Wilson. Charges were never filed.
We honor Brownâs memory by continuing the fight for police accountability nationwide.
Michael Brown was shot for resisting arrest and assaulting the arresting officer. Literally all of the actual evidence shows that he went for the officerâs gun
Wht evidence? The copâs testimony is not admissible. For example, he lied about te places where he shot Brown, the distance at which he shot Brown, whether his gun was holstered or not when Brown supposedly tried to get it, and whether or not he had the gun in his hands when he approached Brown. Clear indication of an impaired mind.
The autopsy and eyewitness testimony. Even Brown's friends changed their story when the truth came out
I mean, an ar15 isnât military grade, kid acted in self defense, one of the dudes he shot was a pedophile and one was a domestic abuser.
I ainât mad
Rittenhouse didnât act in self-defense. And for the love of God, donât be one of those assholes who start from the second killing.
Also, unless you can prove that the victimsâ criminal history had some relevance to the case, then it cannot be accepted as evidence that Rottenhouse was justified. But it CAN be accepted as evidence that you think that criminals deserve to die, regardless of the crime and whether or not they already served their time.
In every instance in which he discharged his weapon, he had either tried to flee, was cornered, or a gun pointed at him.
The first good commie, Joseph Rosenbaum, the convicted pedophile, chased rittenhouse across parking lots, and was hurling objects at him (either molotovs or empty bottles, I've heard both) which I personally believe surely counts as attempting to cause physical harm
Self defense.
Good commie number two, Anthony Huber, another felon, tried to cleave Kyle's head with the axle of a skateboard while he was in the ground, which is clearly assault and could be called attempted murder.
Self defense.
Gaige Grosskreutz aka "Arm spaghetti" aka "Bye-cepts," who is a felony domestic abuser, approached kyle on the ground, seemingly to offer aid, then drew his illegally owned glock and grabbed the rifle barrel, and earned his new alias.
Self defense.
And yes,I wholeheartedly believe that pedophiles and men who beat women should be put to death, but what i believe about the criminally underused death penalty is entirely irrelevant to the Kenosha shooting. The point is that bad people fucked around and found out.
We deserve to be accepted!
A few weeks ago, I was walking down the street, when a man, seemingly around his mid-30s, came up to me and told me what a freak I am.
âWhat?â I asked, not really knowing what was going on. The man then called me a pedophile, and just as I was about to explain the difference between cloverism and pedophilia, he punched me. I fell down on the street, and he started kicking me. Luckily another man came by, and ran in to stop him, but not before Iâd broken two ribs and gotten permanent damage to my wrist, as I tried to defend myself with it.
And today, just a few hours ago, it almost happened again!
WHY? Why all this needless violence? Just because we are sexually disconnected from our physical bodiesâs age, do you think that that gives you the right to hit us? Do you believe that it gives you the right to act your anger out on us? We are human beings too! So what if we love people our own true age, even though it is not our physical or socially accepted age? We are human beings, and we deserve better than to be hit by random people on the street!
#Clovergender
TRUTH!!!!!
Big time nope
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Kyle Rittenhouse is a white domestic terrorist who should spend a lifetime in prison. As innocent Black lives are criminalized, Kyle Ritten
OPINION: Rittenhouse continues a long tradition of self-deputized white men who believe their job is to police and terrorize Black people
Kyle Rittenhouse is a white domestic terrorist who should spend a lifetime in prison. However, white nationalists, Donald Trump and the Republican Party view him as a hero who should be celebrated, loved and honored, lavished with corporate sponsorships and sent to Congress.
And like so many white terrorists before him, Rittenhouse is being held to a different standard.
Kyle acted in self defense. Joseph Rosenbaum, the convicted pedophile who assaulted and raped five boys, attacked, chased and hurled a molotov at the kid. Anthony Huber, the convicted repeat abuser, chased down and bludgeoned kyle with a skateboard. Gaige Grosskreutz, the burglary felon, approached kyle on the ground, while holding a glock.. until his arm became spaghetti. In all three instances, Kyle was doing what he could to retreat, or literally on the ground. Thats no terrorist