Family Don&#x27;t End in Blood

#posts by other people #even his name is based in malicious lies that have hurt people #what someone chooses for themselves as their name says a lot about them you know

Re: Andy's ridiculous form letter-- one thing he claims that stuck out to me was that the Andy Blake identity was "No movie stars this time, no big deal, just a drifting ‘actor, writer, jack-of-all-trades’ with a mysterious past he wouldn’t talk about." You've mentioned in the past that there was a connection between that identity and Orlando Bloom at the beginning-- in other words, once again, it couldn't be more obvious that this letter is just desperate spin on his part.

Now now, to be fair, it’s the name Andy that was short for Orlando.

Right before I left, Orlando vacated the mindhole - apparently he “merged” with the real Orlando Bloom (although when “Jordan-the-dupilicate-Elijah” left, he “died” and became a “ghost” who periodically made appearances later on).

He became “Zack” who was a transplant from alternate 1944 who had some X - men abilities and a suspiciously familiar woobie background.

But he kept the name Andy (short for Orlando) Blake (short for Blakewell, the “real” surname of the Pevensie children who were the “real” children who lived with C.S. Lewis during WWII)

Is it any wonder I had a palm pilot to keep track of all this? Oh, and Andy’s estimation of “about 80” Others was off by half. There were about 160.

Narcissism: the ring-toss metaphor

Hi!

A friend and I came up with what we think is a neat little metaphor for narcissism that we thought a few of you might enjoy reading.

So: ring-toss. It’s a carnival game, where you pay to toss plastic hoops onto a number of prizes. It’s fun because it’s a game and games are fun!

The only thing is… those prizes are cheap. They’re made from bright, shiny plastic to take your mind off the fact that a tiny geegaw is not worth the buck-fifty you dropped. There are better prizes, but no one ever wins these, because the hoop doesn’t fit over them. You’d complain about this little bit of trickery, but everyone would tell you: it’s a carnival game, you knew what you were getting into.

So it goes with narcissists. Yeah, you get stuff from them. Maybe a little attention, maybe a bit of praise. Thing is, it never equals what you put in. and the praise…isn’t really praise. It’s words that sound like praise, but you accept them anyway because you’re in a relationship!! Relationships are awesome! Maybe you never notice that they praise the people who aren’t here more than you, often right to your face. Maybe you do notice that you never get affection on your own terms, only theirs. Maybe it sinks in that you’re good, your great, you’re amazing!…but never quite good enough. You can never shell out enough attention to get those prizes, but maybe it’s okay, you just need to try harder…

…only, you feel shortchanged somehow, but if you try to bring this up, they’ll tell you that this is how the game is. You pay a lot to maybe win a little toy, and that’s all anyone ever gets. So it goes with relationships.

But the person telling you this runs the game, and they do get more than a little toy, they get all the money! Maybe if you complain about this enough, they’ll palm another cheap plastic trinket off on you to shut you up. But that’s all. Because they’re not in it to give you stuff.

They’re here to take it from you.

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Take it from someone that was on his team last year, you do not want to be on Andy's GISH team. When I signed up and knew I was on his team, I was excited. I'll admit I didn't really know much about Andy other than he'd written one of my favourite HP fanfics and that he was a bit eccentric and creative and would go down a treat with what GISH expected of us. It became clear, the second the item list had gone live that my excitement had been very sorely misplaced. (1/?)

Within the first half hour, Andy had claimed a third of the 150 items on the list, *told* everyone else that they had a further ten minutes to dispute it and then he was off to start completing items. I’d been under the impression that we’d all claim a handful right off the bat and then go back for seconds after the initial buzz had lulled a bit. There were at least 5 members of our team that weren’t even THERE when the list went live due to family commitments and time zones. (2/?)

And then he disappeared. He was incontactable nearly the entire time. We had very minimal contact with his friend that was also on the team, unless it was for the pair of them to rock up on the Wednesday and tell everyone else on the team they weren’t pulling their weight and that Andy was bending over backwards to complete SO MANY OF THESE TASKS FOR US! How DARE we not help out! (3/?)

Throughout the hunt, the rest of the team posted their in-progress items back and forth, as well as potential final items so the team could decide as a group which were the best to post to the website. But not Andy. Oh no. He was above such things. We only got to see one item mid-week (which was dark, which we asked if it could be lightened a bit, and had our head’s bitten off for daring to criticise in the slightest). (4/?)

We hunted together, we lost our minds together, and we had a total blast. We brought cockroaches and we dressed as pastries. We held our teddy bears hostage and we made a full blown shrine to Jensen Ackles. In the dying hours of the hunt, we finally heard from Andy’s friends (not him, mind). He was still trying to run around doing 10 point items and not contributing towards a team 120 point item because… reasons?? (5/?)

He’d dumped his camera on someone else and was getting them to upload the items that none of us had even seen or offered feedback on. Half of the items that were completed weren’t to an acceptable standard in my eyes and the other half? Well those didn’t even get uploaded. (6/?)

It was afterwards that he told us he’d ‘lost’ his medication - though his friend claimed they’d sat on her kitchen counter the entire week and he’d left them there on purpose because they made him drowsy and heaven forbid he sleep. It was afterwards that he tried to claim the only reason he cut us out was because he was having a full blown paranoid episode and thought the rest of the team were trying to sabotage HIS attempts to win. (7/?)

It was afterwards that I watched his video for the sonic screwdriver item and realised he’d completely missed the point of the item (to MAKE a sonic screwdriver) just so he could take a dig at Moffat. So long rant short. Don’t let him on your team. He’ll rip you all apart and drag you down and sour your experience. As far as I’m aware, none of us even speak to him anymore, and I couldn’t be happier about that. The members of the team I did have around me were a fabulous bunch of people. (8/?)

And sure, if you wanna join his GISHWHES team then go for it, I just want you to know what you’re getting involved in. He’ll go off his meds, he’ll take all the items and then blame you for not helping out. Sincerely, a concerned Ex-member of Team Profound Radio. (9/9) (sorry this is so long omg)

Please don’t worry about the length, anon! It’s a very interesting read, and it lines up with what I’ve heard from other team members. Sounds like Andy really missed the point of being in a team.

agentmapal-blog

So I’m going to publicly come forward about this. I see a lot of my teammates from last year have come forward anonymously, but an anonymous face is well… probably not something you can 100% relate to.

I’d like to confirm that all of the above is correct. I’d also like to say that even one of his closest friends at the time was upset and disappointed with him. He sapped all the fun out of GISHWHES in the first ten minutes.

When the list went live, I really wanted to do one specific task, it was the only one I really wanted to grab and do. He grabbed it in his massive list of about 40+ items and refused to let it go. Everyone argued he had enough to do, and he decided THAT was the one he was going to do NOW so I had no choice but to fucking shut up and take it. I’m not even sure if it got uploaded in the end.

He also said that anyone with anxiety would want to kill themselves by the third day of the hunt, when I think at least 3 of us had anxiety and I know two of our team members were already incredibly anxious about GISHWHES as a whole.

I didn’t want to kill myself but by the end I probably did wanna kill him.

I was tasked with finishing the final video and also the team picture. When it was coming into the last few hours of the hunt, I still didn’t have his portion of the video or his uniform picture. He was so busy running off and doing last minute things because he had taken on so much that he didn’t have time to be there and actually finish the team part of the hunt.

Not to mention that he also included a huge outside team. That was his team for GISHWHES, not us. He used us as a vessel. He barely communicated other than to tell us we weren’t doing enough and weren’t being serious enough about it. At the end of the hunt, he’d blame all this pretty much on his friend because he wanted to win GISHWHES so his friend could see Misha. So again, he failed to completely take responsibility for his own actions.

We were team Profound Radio and we were amazing. We worked well together, we helped each other, we encouraged each other, we had a laugh and maybe some cries and I think we did pretty fucking great. The issue is? As soon as Andy joined the team, it wasn’t team PR, it was team Andy.

Don’t let him join your team. He’s perfectly capable of making his own team and also he’ll just create sub-standard submissions and not communicate with you for the week unless it’s to tell you you’re having too much fun.

Thank you for adding your account, Mapal. It’s definitely a stark warning against having anything to do with Andy Blake for GISHWHES (or any other time tbh).

I just want to excerpt this part in particular:

He also said that anyone with anxiety would want to kill themselves by the third day of the hunt

Wow. Andy Blake, so sensitive about mental illness. This is abuse. There’s no other way to characterise speaking to people who suffer from anxiety like this, or indeed speaking to anyone like this. It is outright abuse.

And of course blaming it all on the fact that winjennster wanted to meet Misha. Same old patterns all the time.

Excellent and for the most part accurate rundown of the entire saga from The Fanthropologist!

There are a few details that are off, but they’re nits and I don’t have time to pick them right now.

Impressive that someone managed to write the whole epic tale!

fanthropologist

That triangulation stuff has my ex written all over it. He got SO ANGRY when I would mention to anyone else stuff he'd said. It got to the point where I had to copy and paste literally every message I got from him and show it to friends who could point out all the ways he was being abusive and manipulative. I couldn't see it until then.

Thank you for sharing from what must have been a difficult period of your life, Anon.

There are two major lessons presented in your story:

1. If someone over-reacts (anger, apparent extreme hurt, etc…) because you share with other people non-private things they’ve said - BEWARE! What is public is public; something is off when someone tries to stop you from discussing public stuff with other people.

2. If you feel like something might be off, but you can’t pinpoint it yourself - ASK FOR HELP. Preferably from someone who is not likely to be under the influence of the person you’re not sure about, though that’s not always as easy at it seems, especially if that person has been reducing your social circle for a while already. If it gets to the point where you feel there’s nobody you can trust any more, then don’t hesitate to reach out to a professional.

And some additional bits, not directly related to you, Anon:

3. Do NOT make the mistake of thinking that you’re too smart, or too self-aware, or too knowledgeable, or too anything, to fall into that kind of trap. That kind of thinking actually makes you a perfect target for such predators, because they know you won’t go and ask for help when you need it.

3b. Do NOT think that anyone else is smart/self-aware/knowledgeable enough to not be fooled by your abuser. No, not even a doctor, a psychologist, a psychiatrist, any kind of therapist, a social worker, and so on. Anyone who’s been in contact with your abuser, especially if they did so when you were not around, is susceptible to have been blindsided already, and to be primed to disbelieve anything you say that is contrary to what your abuser has said.

3c. This also means that none of your friends or family members or colleagues or whoever, no matter how smart/self-aware/knowledgeable they may be, is beyond the risk of being abused. They might be literally unable to see what looks so clearly to you like abusive patterns. Nobody is safe from falling into such traps! So keep an eye out for each other.

2/2 Thanfiction claims he doesn't believe his mental illness excuses his abuse, but the prev anon had it right, Andy writes about himself like he's a fandom woobie character: he says he feels SO RESPONSIBLE for the abuse he inflicted, while carefully mentioning over & over that his MI deluded him into believing he was doing The Right Thing at all times. Then he pretends to beat himself up over it so OTHERS will say it wasn't his fault because he was sick.. so he never has to say that himself.

Exactly.

In a way, he’s telling the exact truth when he claims that to him, reality and fiction were the same and he couldn’t distinguish between them. Except that he doesn’t mean it in the way his readers think he means it.

His readers think that he means he didn’t realise that fictional characters were not real. But the truth is, he treats real people as though they were fictional characters.

And yes, I used the present time in that last sentence because he has never stopped. He is STILL treating real people as though they were fictional characters.

He doesn’t even need to bother writing and giving out scripts, because his readers already know the Tropes he’s using, and they are reacting accordingly, without even noticing it. All he has to do is set the stage, look the right part, say the right words… and people automatically know what they are supposed to reply and how they are supposed to react.

And the best part of it all? As Abbey once said: people LOVE IT. Andy is manipulating the hell out of people, but because they think they’ve got such a great, positive role in his exciting drama, they love every minute of it.

How perfect is that, really?

Another repeated pattern is not showing the consequences of the illness he claims to have. He's doing well with schizophrenia because people are so ignorant about it. In Harry Potter fandom he raised more eye-brows because his 'heart condition' was 'a thin valve that might pop any day' and he had 'serious circulation problems', yet plane travel didn't seem to be an issue.

Very good point, Anon! Thank you for reminding us of this part of his history :)

Yes, and notice how just recently (like, SINCE PEOPLE STARTED CALLING BULLSHIT) he’s started adding a few little touches: pictures of flies in a sink, unidentified prescription pill bottles in a drawer, calls for help cleaning his room?

That would be Andy belatedly looking up real-life problems facing people with schizophrenia, and kind of copy-pasting them into his narrative.

Oh… Duh! I’d been wondering what bothered me so much about those “little touches”. I did think they were quite… over-the-top, but, well, he’s Andy Blake, so what else would you expect?

But no, of course, it was the timing. So blatantly obvious I couldn’t see it *facepalm*

And yeah: sudden timing + over-the-top touches = bullshit. Definitely with you on that.

capn-mactastic

They were also badly thought out in terms of his narrative: for 3 mental health professionals - with 5 PhDs! - to concentrate their time and effort on an internet scavenger hunt that caused him to go med non-compliant, relapse, and verbally abuse people only twelve months ago, instead of concentrating that time and effort on helping him keep himself and his immediate habitat hygienic, reeks to high heaven.

I believed he googled some problems, and didn’t realise how much he was screwing his narrative by bringing them up.

He’s seeing a psychiatrist, so you forgot one M.D. :P

And I agree completely. Everything I’ve ever read, heard, and been told by actual members of care teams for psychotic patients, is that the main priorities are things like psychological and physical stability, proper basic care of self and if possible of one’s immediate environment, or sufficient stress control and avoidance. All of which are pretty much the direct opposite of GISHWHES.

So let’s add “shittiest care team ever” to “unconcerned parents”… Yeah, it’s really looking like he doesn’t realise what picture he’s actually painting here =_=

murderouswaterhorse

I think at one point he said something about alcoholics learning how to cope in the real world.

My father is an alcoholic. My mother kicked him out of the house when I was three and once he got his shit together he was allowed to come home. FOR 23 years THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A BOTTLE OF WINE IN OUR HOUSE FOR LONGER THAN TWO HOURS (or the span of a family party.)

If it is, it is LOCKED UP WITH A HIDDEN KEY because while I know my dad would not drink, while my mom knows he would not drink again they both don’t want the temptation for him.

My mom gave up drinking in support of him, she still drinks when he is not around and she is ADAMANT THAT NO ONE TELL HIM. BECAUSE she worries that he would relapse and start again.

Yes, he can go to a party and not have a drink. Yes, he can attend a wedding with money in his pocket and not drink. But that’s because my mother is there constantly as a support structure. That’s because he knows he will lose the trust his family has in him. That’s because he knows his daughter (me) doesn’t drink in support of him (and our family’s history with addiction.) But this didn’t all happen in a year.

This happened over a SERIES of YEARS WHERE HE LITERALLY COULD NOT DO ANYTHING WITHOUT SUPERVISION! And we don’t know if he drinks when he is with his friends. We would like to hope he doesn’t and he doesn’t show signs of it. But he has other unhealthy coping techniques like smoking (which he quit for seven years, had one cig with his brother and started up again and has not been able to stop despite countless attempts.)

A year is not enough time to make yourself stable.

A year is not enough time to be trusted to be apart of something that got you OFF your meds.

A year is NOT ENOUGH TIME!

I’m sorry, if it was like…ten years later and he wanted to give it a go. Was religious about taking meds I would be more willing to say: Yes, if your care team said it was okay then go for it.

BUT A YEAR IS NOT ENOUGH TO FIX THE SEVERITY OF THE ISSUES YOU HAVE AT HAND.

When you say “I think at one point he said something about alcoholics learning how to cope in the real world”, do you mean the Ask he answered just an hour ago? If not, then do NOT go and read it yet! I don’t want to be responsible for you having a heart attack from pure anger =_=

Also, I’m gonna go link your heart-breaking explanation of how these things work in the REAL world to that horrible Ask, so people can do some Contrast and Compare between reality and the Andysphere.

Thank you for sharing, and my best wishes of continued soberness to your father!

murderouswaterhorse

That was the one (I have a horrible sense of time when I’m on vacation. :D)

And if anyone wants to talk about it I can give you what it’s like. What it is like to grow up in a family where your two uncles have PTSD because of war. Where nearly everyone in your family has a drinking problem. Where an uncle lived most of his entire adult life under a bridge because he didn’t want to get help, when family tried to help him he stole from them (and repeated the same behaviors he swore he would never do - ooo, sound like someone we know) due to mental illness.

I can talk to them about it.

People don’t change who they are at the core. My dad will always be an angry alcoholic, it doesn’t matter how caring and loving and how AWESOME of a dad he is sober. If he was to drink he would become a raging ass and ruin relationships. They can change the situation (my dad doesn’t go to parties often and if he does he’s usually with my mom or with his friends that, while they drink around him, know his struggles and do not even offer the temptation to him. We don’t keep booze in the house outside of family parties where my aunt and whatever family friend is over to drink it all (if they don’t drink it all it goes in the cabinet for cooking or it goes down the sink.)

I want to believe that he would never drink if he found out my mom drinks but I honestly cannot say, 100% that he wouldn’t. I can’t be sure the one time he took a sip of a family friend’s drink and proclaimed: This is not my sparkling cider, he already knew it wasn’t and he just wanted to taste the wine.

I give him the benefit of the doubt, but this is a man that hid his smoking from me for three years because I was the only member of the family who didn’t know (my mother and brother figured it out quickly) and he didn’t want me to know. This is a man who could VERY WELL be drinking when he’s alone and I wouldn’t know.

I trust him, but he also knows better than to set himself up for failure.

Unlike Andy.

Very good point, Anon! Thank you for reminding us of this part of his history :)

That would be Andy belatedly looking up real-life problems facing people with schizophrenia, and kind of copy-pasting them into his narrative.

Oh… Duh! I’d been wondering what bothered me so much about those “little touches”. I did think they were quite… over-the-top, but, well, he’s Andy Blake, so what else would you expect?

But no, of course, it was the timing. So blatantly obvious I couldn’t see it *facepalm*

And yeah: sudden timing + over-the-top touches = bullshit. Definitely with you on that.

What bugged me most was realizing I could replicate those photos myself. A drawer full of pill bottles you can’t read the labels on? I could do that. I could go into the garden shed with a dustpan and sweep up enough dead flies to make my sink look like a nightmare, and I don’t exactly live in a warm climate.

So, yeah. All those photos proved to me was that he could google “schizophrenia” and he’s good at staging scenes.

Indeed. And oh boy, do we know that he’s good at staging scenes indeed!

Another thing that doesn’t fit for me, is that I can’t imagine that his oh-so-supportive parents would let his place fall into such a state in the first place, without trying to help. And even less so that they would let him publicly humiliate himself (and themselves through him) by pleading for help on the internet! That’s not quite in the definition of “supportive of a child with a serious mental illness” in my book O.o

And anyway, I’m lost: I thought he lived with his parents??

He does live with his parents. And I’m pretty sure they would know if he’d somehow deteriorated to the point he was living with bug infestations.

… If only because then they would be living with bug infestations too?

Yeah…I mean, you’d notice, right? Even if you didn’t use that sink, sooner or later something’d come crawling out under the door.

Not to mention having other people show up to clean a room of their house. If anyone took him up on that, wouldn’t his parents have been concerned?

He did have a couple of people show up. There was a follow-up post about stuff they found that didn’t belong to him, asking people to claim what was theirs. But at least one of those people was a friend, and possibly the other too, so his parents wouldn’t notice anything strange.

I’ve been thinking about something else too: the laundry. How would his parents miss the fact that he’s not washing his clothes??

Seriously, I’ll never learn =_= When I read those posts about him living in complete squalor at “his place”, I just assumed that I’d been wrong in thinking that he lived with his parents. I told myself I must have misread something somewhere, or misremembered. When will I learn to follow my instincts and check when such a big detail shows up to bug me!?

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Don’t blame yourself: he lies so easily and smoothly it’s hard NOT to believe at least a percentage!

I’m sure most of what he and his supporters told me was false. I mean, I honestly believed he was being forced to sleep in a spider-infested outbuilding when he moved back with his parents, in spite of his phobia of spiders. I literally didn’t question that story at all at the time. Yet in retrospect: does that even make any sense? Considering how supportive they are, and that presumably they want him to be well?

andythanfiction-deactivated2017

Did you really make fun of Abbey's body and weight loss/play with her loose skin/give her nicknames referencing it? I was sent a link to some posts about it and that sounds TOTALLY out of character from everything I've ever seen from you re: body positivity, and I know there's a lot of misinformation circulating too.

I have never thought ill of her body, always liked it quite a lot, though I tried to be supportive of her weight loss efforts because they made such a seeming difference to her happiness and self-esteem. Yes, there was joking about her loose skin and some other aspects of her body…as there were about mine. At the time I thought that they were mutually affectionate and intimate in that way that people who are close can sometimes defuse potentially hurtful things with each other by making them silly. If they were then or have since become emotionally hurtful to her, I have nothing but regret and apology, as it has never been my intention to make anyone feel bad about their body in any way.

Right. So how does “Fish Skin Rodeo” fit into this “loving” teasing? Because that was one of Andy’s games. And it is horrifying, and I’ve not blogged about it because it’s shameful that I let him degrade me like this. I don’t trigger warning much, but I actually will put this one behind a cut.

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OH. MY. GOD. D: D: D: D: Okay, so ALL the trigger warnings in the world for body shaming and fat shaming, but to anyone who can afford it: THIS IS A DEFINITE MUST-READ - AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY D: !

capn-mactastic

Look at what Andy’s doing here: he places kumquatwriter in a position where her only choices are to let Andy rewrite history in pursuit of more victims, or to speak out about something he already knows upsets her.

Those are not the actions of someone who is repentant about the harm he’s caused; those are the actions of someone who wants to make Abbey uncomfortable and unhappy.

If you’re genuinely sorry about hurting someone you don’t back them into a choice between silence and pain.

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If you’re genuinely sorry about hurting someone you don’t back them into a choice between silence and pain.

THIS. SO MUCH. And everything else too.

How hard is this to understand, really!?

Truth, Lies and Manipulation

Over the past 24hrs or so, Andy opened up Anon asks to allow questions about “wank”, the term he uses to describe the years of documentation, discussion and commentary on his systematic abuse of a series of victims. There is a lot to talk about in the answers he gives. What I want to focus on is the way Andy is once again using Abbey. Using her to his own advantage once more. Once Andy abuses, he never stops.

There is a lot of victim blaming here, and at the same time, Andy tries here to forge a relationship between him and Abbey. He blames her and yet uses her for support at the same time, while pretending to have sympathy for her. Let’s take some examples.

#tw victim blaming #posts by other people

A couple of days ago, Andy re-abused Little Sam in his fauxpology to her. (Oops, wrong link. Mistake corrected.)

Now he re-abuses Abbey in his faux-“telling ALL the truths!” answers.

And of course, he constantly abuses the memory of Brittany, bringing her death up whenever he needs to get people to pity him.

There is a pattern here - clearly visible to anyone who doesn’t refuse to see.

andythanfiction-deactivated2017

”Fish Skin Rodeo” was a (nonsexual) game that Andy found *highly* amusing. I would be nude and on all fours. Andy would (usually fully clothed) climb on my back and “ride” my lose skin - giggling and squealing like a little kid on one of those horses outside of grocery stores. I was supposed to sway or bounce around, and he’d grab loose skin with each hand and “try to stay on” until he slid off. I admit that I laughed it off too, but there were multiple times where I told him that it made me feel gross and fat. He would say that he was trying to help me “own” my body and “feel comfortable in my skin, even if it is loose.” And then later, he’d ask to play “fish skin rodeo” again. Fish, if you remember, was my nickname from him - short for TitFish - references to my skin making my whole body “feel like a tit” and my eyes swelling up from crying very hard making me look “like a fish.” He also channeled a “drill sargent” (one of the many young, breathtakingly handsome uber-manly soldiers from WWII) who was supposedly helping me “get in shape” to get rid of the loose skin. That character would yell all sorts of insults and pushed me into what I now know are fairly dangerous levels of exertion for someone at the level of fitness I was at.

As for joking about his body? That never happened. Aside from any number of jokes and references to his absolutely enormous dick, or the tremendous dicks of every. single. male. character he channeled (aside from some of the Elves and the small child characters).

#tw body shaming #posts by other people

Trigger warnings, because so much for affection. What a crock of shit from Andy. Description of outrageous body shaming under the cut.

#anonymous

pitchblackgone

You guys are all fucking pussys. Go kick the shit out if him if he’s fucking with your fandom. Stupid gits.

That would only give him a platform on which to martyr himself and draw people in by playing the victim and getting them to have sympathy on him “the poor lamb who was persecuted and then beaten to a pulp for things he can’t help” (it would all be a load of bull, but that is EXACTLY how he would play it.)

As usually, violence solves nothing.

pitchblackgone

That’s exactly why he gets away with this. Trust me when I go to a con now I’ll keep my eye out for this goof. Why not just harass him to the point where someone court restrains him so he can’t visit any cons that person goes too. Why not fucking troll him to no fucking end IN REAL LIFE. He will go from fandom to fandom until someone stops him. I know if he was in my shows grill and trying to get cast mates numbers and all that I’d call the police and then I’d go find the moron and do the work myself like holy fuck. Grow some fucking balls people and stand up for your fellow fans ffs. What the fuck good is a fandom if you guys let this shit run loose.