something i think about a lot is how so much of the conversation about fandom racism is just about trying to get white fans to stop avoiding the issue of racism in fandom because “fandom is for fun!” that we never really get to the second step of “ok, now how do you participate in the conversation in a way that is productive?” (like how the convo abt cultural appropriation went from “white ppl pick and choose pieces of racialized cultures to commercialize and profit off of without giving due credit to the people who created that culture, and often the real cultural significance gets watered down into a toothless marketable palatable shell of itself” into just “if you’re white and you ever acknowledge or interact with a different culture you’re a bad person”)
and like “how to talk about fandom racism in a productive way” is not something i am going to pretend to be an expert on, but i will say that maybe treating stuff like “small fandom event for a messy, toxic, non-canonical polycule ship” or “two or three fics where a canon gay couple has a threesome with a women” as equally as harmful as “huge chunks of the fandom misinterpreting a character of color as significantly more violent and abusive than the character is in canon” is sort of a great way to get people to dismiss what you’re saying even if what you’re saying is correct and important.
Good tags from @littlefingies -
[ID: screenshot of the following tags: #all of this is very true and correct#I will add to this that if you enter every fandom conversation with the assumption that there are exactly two outcomes where#a) correct and agrees with me#b) incorrect and racist#you’re going to stunt your own growth forever#there are a lot of wrong things that white people can do when talking about race#and a Lot of them share the foundational sin of believing that you are always correct#this is how you wind up speaking over poc for one thing#OFMD#fandom racism /end ID]
very good point! if you’re white and trying to talk about fandom racism you gotta be ready to accept that you can be wrong and you might stick your foot in it when you’re trying to support fans of color!
i think actually for white fans trying to participate in the ongoing conversation about fandom racism it’s really really important for us (and this is definitely something i gotta work on) to not think about the convo as an argument we’re trying to win, but as an effort to identify and discourage harmful patterns of behavior.

















